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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's hilarious watching SECOND own your troll asses.




Second couldn't own his own ass even if he shoved a dildo with a dog leash attached to it up his ass and bounced.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 5:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Even more excellent posts, now page 9.



Index of posts revealing new reports (of old news which most of us already knew).

#2 - 27 April - Obama White House, Podesta, Biden forcing Ukraine to help with conspiracy.
#3 - 27 April - Comey/Rosenstein.
#10 - 27 April - Mike Whitney.
#17 - 2 May - Nellie Ohr.
#19 - 2 May - Nellie Ohr lying to Congress.
#31 - 3 May - Barr Investigating FBI "Spying"
#32 - 3 May - Azra Turk is first named FBI Spy sent to spy on Trump. Then FBI denied it.
#35 - 3 May - FBI's Honeypot Spytrap against Trump, MSM keeping mum.
#37 - 10 May - FBI, Steele lies are falling apart - link only.
#39 - 11 May - Judgment Day for Brennan


#69 - 14 May - Barr picks Dunham.
#72 - 14 May - Guiliani on Steele and Dossier.
#82 - 17 May - FBI, CIA blaming each other (Comey/Brennan)
#94 - 19 May - James Baker backing away.


#105 - 20 May - Ghost Data finds collusion of Anti-Trump campaign.
#108 - 22 May - Barr closing in on Comey, Brennan
#112 - 23 May - Bucket 5, Gang of 8
#116 - 28 May - from another thread, Trump grants Barr Declassification Authority on documents.
#117 - 28 May - Steele now hiding from Barr & team.
#118 - 30 May - Obama's Crooked Cops & Spies scrambling for cover.
#120 - 31 May - Whistleblower exposes Obama's DOMESTIC Spying program.
#133 - 7 June - Mueller Outright Lie #2.
#134 - 7 June - Mueller Outright Lie #1.
#143 - 16 June - Fake Source of Fake Hacking pretext.
#144 - 16 June - Video of Nunes opening Statement on Mueller Dossier.
#148 - 17 June - Partial transcript of video of Nunes opening statement.


#162 - 22 June - Comey's lies to President, FBI Mole Ferrante in White House.
#165 - 29 July - Weisman had begged Russians for dirt on Trump.
#179 - 30 August - IG Report on Comey and his Crimes.
#184 - 12 September - The innocence of Gen. Mike Flynn.
#185 - 12 September - McCabe indicted.
#187 - 23 September - House Democrat Chairmen not interested in Facts or Truth.
#194 - 19 October - Top Secret Plotters are getting caught up, hiring lawyers.


#202 - 25 October - DOJ Russiagate probe elevates to Criminal Investigation.
#210 - 26 October - How FBI Entrapped Flynn.


#269 - 12 February 2020 - Stone Prosecutors flee over sentencing.
#295 - 13 February - Stone Jury Forewoman Tomeka Hart was Ringer for Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition.


#322 - 15 February - The buildup of Deep State moles in NSC.
#331 - 4 March - Judge orders Hilliary deposition.
#335 - 30 April - Unsealed: FBI plotted Perjury Trap on Flynn.
#338 - 12 May - DNI Grenell demands Schiff release transcripts.
#340 - 14 May - Judge Sullivan refuse to accept DOJ dismissal of Flynn case.
#341 - 10 June - Rosenstein throws Mueller under the bus.


#373 - 12 June - The Fake Case against Flynn. 85 points.
#385 - 8 July - British court rules against Steele.
#390 - 18 July - Declassified Steele documents.
#391 - 18 July - Stzrok clarifies NYT lied.
#392 - 6 August - Sally Yates throws Comey under the bus.
#396 - 15 August - Clinesmith pleads Guilty.
#397 - 15 August - More on Clinesmith & Guilt.
#399 - 17 August - Weismann demands fellow lawyers lie to keep him out of prison.

#407 - 27 September - Sullivan appointed Deep State Prosecutor, FBI Texts lying about Flynn released.
#411 - 30 September - Comey testifies.

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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:30 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's hilarious watching SECOND own your troll asses.




Second couldn't own his own ass even if he shoved a dildo with a dog leash attached to it up his ass and bounced.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Since when is it a crime for ‘FBI Attorney 2’ Kevin Clinesmith to write: “I just can’t imagine the systematic disassembly of the progress we made over the last 8 years,” Clinesmith said the day after Trump’s election win. “ACA is gone. Who knows if the rhetoric about deporting people, walls, and crap is true. I honestly feel like there is going to be a lot more gun issues, too, the crazies won finally. This is the tea party on steroids. And the GOP is going to be lost, they have to deal with an incumbent in 4 years. We have to fight this again. Also Pence is stupid.”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/heres-what-we-know-about-fbi-atto
rney-2-kevin-clinesmith-the-first-person-charged-in-durham-probe
/

“Also Pence is stupid.” -- Kevin Clinesmith. Also 6ixStringJack is poor white trash living on $4,500 per year: “How do I know that? I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance. You, yourself, have even suggested recently that I am feral.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's hilarious watching SECOND own your troll asses.




Second couldn't own his own ass even if he shoved a dildo with a dog leash attached to it up his ass and bounced.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Since when is it a crime for ‘FBI Attorney 2’ Kevin Clinesmith to write: “I just can’t imagine the systematic disassembly of the progress we made over the last 8 years,” Clinesmith said the day after Trump’s election win. “ACA is gone. Who knows if the rhetoric about deporting people, walls, and crap is true. I honestly feel like there is going to be a lot more gun issues, too, the crazies won finally. This is the tea party on steroids. And the GOP is going to be lost, they have to deal with an incumbent in 4 years. We have to fight this again. Also Pence is stupid.”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/heres-what-we-know-about-fbi-atto
rney-2-kevin-clinesmith-the-first-person-charged-in-durham-probe
/

“Also Pence is stupid.” -- Kevin Clinesmith. Also 6ixStringJack is poor white trash living on $4,500 per year: “How do I know that? I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance. You, yourself, have even suggested recently that I am feral.”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





Boo hoo.

You just hate the fact that you're in debt up to your eyeballs and can never hope to pay it off.

I'm living just fine bruh.

Dentures paid in full. Car paid in full. House paid in full. All house repairs paid with cash. Learning something new nearly every day. $5,000 worth of tools in my garage, paid in full.

3 hots and a cot and all the monthly bills, paid in full. No college debt. No credit card debt. 822 credit score.

No boss to report to. No kids to put through college. No nagging wife.

My life is awesome buddy.





You worry about you. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:43 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm living just fine bruh.

Dentures paid in full. Car paid in full. House paid in full. All house repairs paid with cash. Learning something new nearly every day. $5,000 worth of tools in my garage, paid in full.

3 hots and a cot and all the monthly bills, paid in full. No college debt. No credit card debt. 822 credit score.

No boss to report to. No kids to put through college. No nagging wife.

My life is awesome buddy.





You worry about you. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You are the epitome of poor white trash. The other Trump voters I know, except the rich ones who I respect, aspire to your level of misunderstanding of how money works, government works, Trump works, the very purpose of life. I suggest you read a book: Noam Chomsky's What Kind of Creatures Are We?
https://libgen.unblockit.win/search.php?req=Noam+Chomsky+What+Kind+of+
Creatures+Are+We

It's free and only four chapters:
1. What Is Language?
2. What Can We Understand?
3. What Is the Common Good?
4. The Mysteries of Nature: How Deeply Hidden?

There is no mention of Trump, but you'd get the sense that Trump is a malfunctioning creature.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:49 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm living just fine bruh.

Dentures paid in full. Car paid in full. House paid in full. All house repairs paid with cash. Learning something new nearly every day. $5,000 worth of tools in my garage, paid in full.

3 hots and a cot and all the monthly bills, paid in full. No college debt. No credit card debt. 822 credit score.

No boss to report to. No kids to put through college. No nagging wife.

My life is awesome buddy.





You worry about you. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You are the epitome of poor white trash. The other Trump voters I know, except the rich ones who I respect, aspire to your level of misunderstanding of how money works, government works, Trump works, the very purpose of life. I suggest you read a book: Noam Chomsky's What Kind of Creatures Are We?
https://libgen.unblockit.win/search.php?req=Noam+Chomsky+What+Kind+of+
Creatures+Are+We

It's free and only four chapters:
1. What Is Language?
2. What Can We Understand?
3. What Is the Common Good?
4. The Mysteries of Nature: How Deeply Hidden?

There is no mention of Trump, but you'd get the sense that Trump is a malfunctioning creature.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

The last thing 6ix would ever do is try to learn anything.

He's just a wet brain dupe. Useless.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

TRUMP WAS RIGHT

Newly disclosed internal FBI notes and text messages detail the extent of the FBI's desire to take down Trump and his associates at any cost.
Sean Davis and Mollie Hemingway
By Sean Davis and Mollie Hemingway
September 24, 2020

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents tasked by fired former Director James Comey to take down Donald Trump during and after the 2016 election were so concerned about the agency’s potentially illegal behavior that they purchased liability insurance to protect themselves less than two weeks before Trump was inaugurated president, previously hidden FBI text messages show. The explosive new communications and internal FBI notes were disclosed in federal court filings today from Sidney Powell, the attorney who heads Michael Flynn’s legal defense team.

“[W]e all went and purchased professional liability insurance,” one agent texted on Jan. 10, 2017, the same day CNN leaked details that then-President-elect Trump had been briefed by Comey about the bogus Christopher Steele dossier. That briefing of Trump was used as a pretext to legitimize the debunked dossier, which was funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign and compiled by a foreign intelligence officer who was working for a sanctioned Russian oligarch.

“Holy crap,” an agent responded. “All the analysts too?”

“Yep,” the first agent said. “All the folks at the Agency as well.”

“[C]an I ask who are the most likely litigators?” an agent responded. “[A]s far as potentially suing y’all[?]”

“[H]aha, who knows….I think [t]he concern when we got it was that there was a big leak at DOJ and the NYT among others was going to do a piece,” the first agent said.

While the names of the agents responsible for the texts are redacted, the legal filing from Powell, quoting communications from the Department of Justice (DOJ), states that the latest document production included handwritten notes and texts from Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, and FBI analysts who worked on the FBI’s investigation of Flynn.

Agents also said they were worried about how a new attorney general might view the actions taken against Trump during the investigation. Shortly after then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was confirmed to be Trump’s new attorney general, congressional Democrats, media, and Obama holdovers within DOJ immediately moved to force Sessions to recuse himself from overseeing the department’s investigations against Trump.

“[T]he new AG might have some questions….then yada yada yada…we all get screwed,” one agent wrote.

The FBI agents also discussed how the investigation’s leadership was consumed with conspiracy theories rather than evidence.

“I’m tellying [sic] man, if this thing ever gets FOIA’d, there are going to be some tough questions asked,” one agent wrote. “[A]nd a great deal of those will be related to Brian having a scope way outside the boundaries of logic[.]”

“[REDACTED] is one of the worst offenders of the rabbit holes and conspiracy theories,” an agent texted. “This guy traveled with that guy, who put down 3rd guy as his visa sponsor. 3rd guy lives near a navy base, therefore…[.]”

Several texts show that the order to close the criminal investigation against Flynn came as early as Nov. 8, 2016, the same day as the 2016 presidential election. It was later re-opened in early January of 2017.

“We have some loose ends to tie up, and we all need to meet to discuss what to do with each case (he said shut down Razor),” one agent texted, referring to Crossfire Razor, the FBI’s internal code name for the investigation of Flynn.

“[S]o glad they’re closing Razor,” an agent responded.

The new disclosures made by DOJ also show that the FBI used so-called national security letters (NSLs) to spy on Flynn’s finances. Unlike traditional subpoenas, which require judicial review and approval before authorities can seize an innocent person’s property and information, NSLs are never independently reviewed by courts. One of the agents noted in a text message that the NSLs were just being used as a pretext by FBI leadership to buy time to find dirt on Flynn after the first investigation of him yielded no derogatory information.

“[T]he decision to NSL finances for Razor bought him time,” one agent said nearly two weeks after the initial order to shut down the anti-Flynn case. It is not known to whom the agent was referring in that text.

“What do we expect to get from an NSL[?]” an agent texted on Dec. 5, 2016. “We put out traces, tripwires to community and nothing.”

ingo,” another FBI agent responded. “[S]o what’s an NSL going to do – no content.”

“Hahah this is a nightmare,” an agent said.

“If we’re working to close down the cases, I’m not sure what NSL results would do to help,” one agent wrote.

“[E]xactly that makes no sense,” an agent wrote back.

The explosive new text messages also show agents believed the investigation was being run by FBI officials who were in the tank for Hillary Clinton.

“[D]oing all this election research – I think some of these guys want a [C]linton presidency,” one agent wrote on Aug. 11, shortly after the FBI opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation against Trump.

In one series of texts sent the same day as the infamous Jan. 5 Oval Office meeting between Obama, Biden, Comey, Sally Yates, and Susan Rice, one agent admits that “Trump was right” when he tweeted that the FBI was delaying his briefings as incoming president so they could cook up evidence against him. As The Federalist first reported last May, that Jan. 5 meeting was the key to understanding the entire anti-Trump operation run out of Obama’s FBI.

“The ‘Intelligence’ briefing on so-called ‘Russian hacking’ was delayed until Friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case,” Trump tweeted on January 3. “Very strange!”

“So razor is going to stay open???” an agent wrote on Jan. 5.

“[Y]ep,” another FBI agent responded. “[C]rimes report being drafted.”

“F,” the first agent wrote back.

“[W]hat’s the word on how [Obama’s] briefing went?” one agent asked, referring to the Jan. 5 meeting.

“Dont know but people here are scrambling for info to support certain things and its a mad house,” an FBI agent responded.

“[J]esus,” an agent wrote back. “[T]rump was right. [S]till not put together….why do we do this to ourselves. [W]hat is wrong with these people[?]?

A week later, the FBI agents also wrote that they suspected that the illegal leak of top secret information about Flynn’s phone calls with Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak to the news media came directly from the White House.

“FYI – someone leaked the Flynn calls with Kislyak to the WSJ,” the agent wrote.

“I’m sorry to hear that,” another FBI agent responded sarcastically. “I’ll resume my duties as Chief Morale Officer and rectify that.”

“Published this morning by Ignatius,” an agent said, referencing the Jan. 12 column from Washington Post writer David Ignatius that included leaked top-secret information about Flynn’s calls with Kislyak.

“It’s got to be someone on staff,” an agent wrote. “[Presidential Daily Briefing] staff. Or WH seniors.”

To date, not a single person has been charged with illegally leaking that information to the Washington Post as a way of damaging Flynn and the incoming Trump administration.

Following a review of the federal government’s investigation by U.S. Attorney Jeff Jensen, which was ordered by Attorney General William Barr, the government moved to dismiss all charges against Flynn that had been previously brought by former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Documents unearthed during Jensen’s review showed that before the FBI was tasked by the Obama White House in early 2017 with re-targeting Flynn, the agency closed a previous investigation against him because there was no proof of any criminal wrongdoing. Jensen’s review also uncovered evidence that the FBI’s interview of Flynn, which later led to charges that he lied to FBI investigators, had no legal basis and that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that he had lied.

Contrary to claims by Mueller’s office that Flynn had lied about discussing financial sanctions against Russia during post-election phone calls with Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak, declassified transcripts of those conversations confirmed that Flynn spoke to Kislyak only about expulsions of Russian diplomats and that the two men never discussed financial sanctions against Russia that had previously been levied by the Obama administration. Jensen’s review of Flynn’s case file also revealed handwritten notes from the FBI’s top counterintelligence official that admitted a primary goal of the FBI’s anti-Flynn operation was “to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”

Despite the overwhelming evidence that Flynn did not lie to agents, the FBI had no legal basis to interview him, that the FBI later hid exculpatory documents from Flynn’s defense team, Flynn did not discuss financial sanctions during his phone calls with Kislyak, and the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe he lied, federal trial Judge Emmet G. Sullivan has refused to dismiss the case against Flynn.

Instead, Sullivan personally appointed a left-wing shadow prosecutor, whose partners represent former DOJ official Yates, to smear Flynn and attempt to continue the baseless criminal case against him. At one point last April, Sullivan even tried to order the DOJ to stop producing and publicly filing exculpatory evidence for Flynn or evidence of FBI misbehavior during its investigation of Flynn.

Sullivan, who called Flynn a traitor during court proceedings and suggested that Flynn — a decorated Army combat veteran — be charged with treason, has refused to recuse himself from the case despite his obvious personal animosity toward Flynn.



https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/24/trump-was-right-explosive-new-fbi
-texts-detail-internal-furor-over-handling-of-crossfire-hurricane-investigation
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Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
The last thing 6ix would ever do is try to learn anything.

He's just a wet brain dupe. Useless.



I'm learning new things everyday.

Maybe what you need in life is to struggle with addiction. If you're strong enough to come out the other end of it alive, you might actually have a stronger appreciation for the time you have left.

I mean, it's been well over a year and a half since you're "too late, enjoy the time you have left" thread, and you seem absolutely miserable and show no evidence that you've lifted a finger to improve yourself in that time.




Anybody who shits on somebody for addiction that hasn't harmed anybody but themselves is a monumental piece of shit. That is only multiplied when they shit on somebody who has successfully overcome an addiction.


Why do you still feel the need to bring up my old drinking habits nearly every day, almost 4 years after I got sober?

What kind of terrible person does that to somebody else?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:51 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
The last thing 6ix would ever do is try to learn anything.

He's just a wet brain dupe. Useless.



I'm learning new things everyday.


Have you finally mastered chewing with your mouth closed?



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Monday, September 28, 2020 4:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


It seems obvious that Judge Sullivan needs to be Impeached by Congress.

Another reason we need GOP to retake majority of the House. How long would it take after the Election for the House to Impeach him?

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Wednesday, October 7, 2020 3:48 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

DNI Declassifies Brennan Notes; Briefed Obama On Intelligence That Hillary Clinton Concocted Trump-Russia Allegations

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified several documents, including handwritten notes from former CIA John Brennan after he briefed former President Obama on an alleged plot by Hillary Clinton to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as "a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server" ahead of the 2016 US election, according to Fox News.

Ratcliffe declassified Brennan’s handwritten notes – which were taken after he briefed Obama on the intelligence the CIA received – and a CIA memo, which revealed that officials referred the matter to the FBI for potential investigative action.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence transmitted the declassified documents to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees on Tuesday afternoon.

"Today, at the direction of President Trump, I declassified additional documents relevant to ongoing Congressional oversight and investigative activities," Ratcliffe said in a statement to Fox News Tuesday. -Fox News

"We’re getting additional insight into Russian activities from [REDACTED]," read Brennan's notes. "CITE [summarizing] alleged approved by Hillary Clinton a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service."



i.e.: You've been had, and now you're defending the people who lied to you...

Quote:

Clinton spokesperson Nick Merrill called the allegations "baseless bullshit," however DNI Ratcliffe said in a statement last week: "To be clear, this is not Russian disinformation and has not been assessed as such by the Intelligence Community," adding "I’ll be briefing Congress on the sensitive sources and methods by which it was obtained in the coming days."

A source familiar with the documents told Fox News on Tuesday that the allegation was "not disinformation."

"This is not Russian disinformation. Even Brennan knew, or he wouldn't be briefing the president of the United States on it," the source said. "There is a high threshold to orally brief the president of the United States and he clearly felt this met that threshold."

Another source familiar with the documents told Fox News that "this information has been sought by hundreds of congressional requests for legitimate oversight purposes and was withheld for political spite—and the belief that they’d never get caught." -Fox News

And per The Federalist: "There is no evidence the FBI ever took any action to ensure that Russian knowledge of Clinton’s plans did not lead to infiltration of that campaign’s operation by Russian intelligence agents. The CIA referral, specifically its reference to a “CROSSFIRE HURRICANE fusion cell,” suggests that the Obama administration’s anti-Trump investigation may not have been limited to the FBI, but may have included the use of CIA assets and surveillance capabilities, raising troubling questions about whether the nation’s top spy service was weaponized against a U.S. political campaign."

But, so what if the CIA and FBI acted like East Germany's Stasi?

Quote:

Meanwhile, Twitter is censoring this story:

As we noted last week after Ratcliffe previewed the allegation:

On September 7, 2016, US intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to former FBI officials James Comey and Peter Strzok concerning allegations that Hillary Clinton approved a plan to smear then-candidate Donald Trump


And who cares that our M$M and main internet sources are acting like the USSR's Pravda??


Certainly not Antifa! They're so busy huffing and puffing about "fascism", and yet they can't recognize it whne it's happening right in front of them!



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Thursday, October 8, 2020 3:54 PM

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I know, I know ... some of you are too busy being hijacked by TDS to pay attention to such minor matters as an undemocratic, unconstitutional, "fascistic" coup attempted by spook agencies, a former President, and a media that is less honest than USSR's Pravda. And. of course, you're waaaay too busy lapping up the dogshit that the media feeds you to read the following article. Nonetheless...


Quote:

Former Intel Officials Scramble To Downplay Ratcliffe's Russiagate Releases

Authored by Dave DeCamp via AntiWar.com,

US Intelligence officials were quick to speak through their stenographers in the media to downplay the contents of a memo released last week by Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe about the origins of Russiagate. The memo made an explosive claim: Russian intelligence assessed that Hillary Clinton approved a campaign in July 2016 to link Donald Trump to Russia’s alleged hacking of the DNC to distract from Clinton’s email scandal.

After a week of sanctimonious statements from former intelligence officials, who according to Politico, were "aghast" with Ratcliffe’s decision to declassify the intelligence, the DNI declassified documents that showed the claim was not as "unverified" as these spooks would like the American people to believe.
Via the AP

In the memo released last week, Ratcliffe said handwritten notes from former CIA director John Brennan indicated that Brennan briefed President Obama on Clinton’s alleged plot. On Tuesday, Ratcliffe declassified those notes.

"We’re getting additional insight into Russian activities from [REDACTED]," Brennan’s notes read. "CITE [summarizing] alleged approved by Hillary Clinton a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security service,"

Speaking with CNN after his notes were released, Brennan confirmed that he briefed Obama on this allegation.

"These were my notes from the 2016 period when I briefed President Obama and the rest of the national security council team about what the Russians were up to and I was giving examples of the type of access that the US intelligence community had to Russian information and what the Russians were talking about and alleging," Brennan said.

Before Brennan’s admission, the former CIA chief denounced Ratcliffe’s move to declassify the information and said the DNI is "is anything but an intelligence professional" and said Ratcliffe’s "selective declassification of information" was done to help President Trump. While Ratcliffe’s move was undoubtedly politically motivated, Brennan is in no position to judge anybody’s professionalism.

Brennan, who landed a job as an analyst for NBC in 2018, has used his prominence as a former CIA chief to make wild accusations about President Trump and Russia. After the 2018 Helsinki Summit, Brennan took to Twitter to accuse Trump of "treason" and said the president is "wholly in the pocket of Putin." In August 2018, Brennan penned an Op-Ed for The New York Times that said President Trump’s claims of no collusion are "hogwash." After Robert Mueller found no collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, Brennan changed his tune and said he must have received "bad information." Whoops.

Ratcliffe also released a declassified CIA memo from September 2016 addressed to former FBI Director James Comey and then-Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok as part of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Trump campaign officials’ alleged ties to Russia.

"Per FBI verbal request, CIA provides the below examples of information the CROSSFIRE HURRICANE fusion cell has gleaned to date,” the memo reads. "An exchange [REDACTED] discussing US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning US presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering US elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server."

Last week, during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Senator Lindsey Graham asked Comey if he remembered receiving the memo, but the former FBI chief conveniently forgot. "That doesn’t ring any bells with me," Comey said.

The inspector general report on the FBI’s spying of the Trump campaign revealed multiple instances of the agency withholding and misrepresenting information to the FISA court to obtain surveillance warrants. For example, the FBI withheld the fact that Trump campaign advisor Carter Page had been working with the CIA in his dealings with Russia. The September 2016 memo alleging Clinton ordered to stir up a scandal linking Trump to Russia is just another example in a long list of information the FBI ignored to fit its narrative.

As Graham pointed out during the hearing and the great Russiagate debunker Aaron Maté pointed out on Twitter, the fact that the Clinton campaign tried to hype Trump-Russia ties is nothing new. It is well known that the campaign hired Fusion GPS and former British spy Christopher Steele to compile a now-discredited dossier about Trump’s alleged ties to Russia that relied heavily on internet rumors.

Ratcliffe’s memo says Clinton allegedly approved a campaign to stir up a scandal to distract from her emails on July 26th, 2016. A look at the timeline of events suggests Russian intelligence based this analysis, at least partly, on open-source information.

WikiLeaks began publishing emails from the Democratic National Committee on July 22nd, shortly before the Democratic National Convention. The emails were damning and revealed the DNC had a preference for Clinton and actively worked against the Bernie Sanders campaign.

The blog Moon of Alabama found Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook appeared on CNN on July 24th and made what was possibly the first allegation that Russia had "hacked" the DNC in support of Trump. Mook made the claim with no evidence, citing unnamed "experts."

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"What’s disturbing to us is that experts are telling us Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these emails, and other experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these emails for the purpose of actually of helping Donald Trump," Mook said.

As Bernhard put it at Moon of Alabama, "Mook’s TV appearance was probably a test balloon raised to see if such claims would stick." And stick they did.

The following day, The New York Times published a story that said, "the Russian-intervention narrative fits with Mrs. Clinton’s efforts to establish the idea that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia wants to see Mr. Trump elected to weaken America and hurt its closest NATO allies."

In an interview on July 26th, 2016, President Obama alluded to the idea that Russia "hacked" the DNC to help Donald Trump. "What we do know is that the Russians hack our systems, not just government systems but private systems," Obama said. "What the motives were in terms of the leaks, all that – I can’t say directly. What I do know is that Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed admiration for Vladimir Putin."

The allegation that Russia hacked the DNC first came from the private cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike in June 2016. In its investigation, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike’s work and never had access to DNC servers. This year, a bombshell was revealed by declassified testimony from CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry before the House Intelligence Committee in 2017.

Henry admitted his firm had no "concrete evidence" that alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC servers. "There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left," Henry said.

As far as attributing the "hack" to Russia, Henry said, "There are other nation-states that collect this type of intelligence for sure, but the – what we would call the tactics and techniques were consistent with what we’d seen associated with the Russian state."

While Brennan and other former officials express their disdain at Trump’s DNI for selectively declassifying this latest information, it is important to understand that the claim underpinning the entire Russiagate narrative still has many holes. And the conspiracy would have never been born without selective leaks of information by Obama-era intelligence officials.



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Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:16 PM

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Now, you can't say you weren't told.



Why bother, Sigs?

You could show them the entire context, in full HD video, regarding what Trump said about illegal criminals and the Charlottesville incident that completely exonerates Trump of the two false Legacy Media claims that Kamala repeated yet again at the debates last night to these people and they will deny the proof and still claim that Trump said that ALL Mexicans are rapists and murderers and that there are "good people" among violent white supremacist groups.

Their brains might actually be made of more pudding than Uncle Joey's.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I know, I know ... some of you are too busy being hijacked by TDS to pay attention to such minor matters as an undemocratic, unconstitutional, "fascistic" coup attempted by spook agencies, a former President, and a media that is less honest than USSR's Pravda. And. of course, you're waaaay too busy lapping up the dogshit that the media feeds you to read the following article. Nonetheless...

Trump accused Obama of treason. See the video. Why is Trump waiting until after the election to arrest Obama?



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Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:22 PM

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Trump accused Obama of treason. See the video. Why is Trump waiting until after the election to arrest Obama?




Because he's not the fascist dictator you cuckklefucks keep saying that he is and he doesn't have the authority to.



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now, you can't say you weren't told.



Why bother, Sigs?

You could show them the entire context, in full HD video, regarding what Trump said about illegal criminals and the Charlottesville incident that completely exonerates Trump of the two false Legacy Media claims that Kamala repeated yet again at the debates last night to these people and they will deny the proof and still claim that Trump said that ALL Mexicans are rapists and murderers and that there are "good people" among violent white supremacist groups.

Their brains might actually be made of more pudding than Uncle Joey's.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump promised to remove the 24 million illegal aliens who have been long term residents in America. They are all still living here. Why is Trump waiting until after the election to remove them?

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Quote:

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Trump accused Obama of treason. See the video. Why is Trump waiting until after the election to arrest Obama?


Because he's not the fascist dictator you cuckklefucks keep saying that he is and he doesn't have the authority to.

Trump knows he won't be reelected if he or Bill Barr arrests traitorous Obama. I wish Trump would actually listen to his own words and do what his mouth is saying. If Trump's mouth says Obama is a traitor, then Trump's right hand needs to sign the documents to arrest Obama or else Trump's mouth needs to be quiet.

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:52 PM

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Obama is a traitor.

I could also recreate his birth certificate in Photoshop.

How do I know this? I've already recreated my own birth certificate in Photoshop and mine was a lot newer than his was.



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Friday, October 9, 2020 12:18 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Signy

I read your posts and I get ... tired. The mountain of malfeasance in the Obama administration; the Clintons separately, together, and with their foundation; and the DNC, is just exhausting to contemplate.

I admire your energy in the face of it.

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Signy

I read your posts and I get ... tired. The mountain of malfeasance in the Obama administration; the Clintons separately, together, and with their foundation; and the DNC, is just exhausting to contemplate.

I admire your energy in the face of it.

1kiki, I admire Trump's energy in the face of it.

Donald Trump mounted an overnight Twitter blitz demanding to jail his political enemies and call out allies he says are failing to arrest his rivals swiftly enough.

Trump twice amplified supporters’ criticisms of Attorney General William Barr, including one featuring a meme calling on him to “arrest somebody!” He wondered aloud why his rivals, like President Barack Obama, Democratic nominee Joe Biden and former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton hadn’t been imprisoned for launching a “coup” against his administration.

“Where are all of the arrests?” Trump said, after several dozen tweets on the subject over the past 24 hours. “Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? Long term sentences would have started two years ago. Shameful!”

By early afternoon, Trump was letting loose his frustrations in an all-caps missive.

“DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!” Trump tweeted.

www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

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Signy

I read your posts and I get ... tired. The mountain of malfeasance in the Obama administration; the Clintons separately, together, and with their foundation; and the DNC, is just exhausting to contemplate.

I admire your energy in the face of it.

I admire Trump for going on TV in his fight against evil:

President Donald Trump is calling for his attorney general to indict his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden, for the "greatest political crime in the history of our country."

On Thursday, Trump told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo that Biden and Obama "spited' his campaign and urged Attorney General Bill Barr to indict them because "we got plenty, you don't need any more." Without an indictment, Trump said, "we'll get little satisfaction," and he "won't forget it."

In August, he told Bartiromo that Barr had a chance to be the "greatest of all time" and that he has all of the answers showing that it goes "right to" Obama and Biden. But, if he chooses to be politically correct, he'll end up being "just another guy."

Trump capitalized on the release of the documents, tweeting on Wednesday that the "treasonous act of spying and government overthrow" should disqualify Biden from running for president.

www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-u
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Friday, October 9, 2020 3:24 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well I guess the plot is not so secret anymore. Since RUSSIA!RUSSIA! failed, and "quid pro quo" impeachment failed, now they're doing this...

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Citing 25th Amendment, Pelosi, Raskin move to create panel that could rule on president’s fitness for office

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Rep. Jamie B. Raskin (D-Md.) plan to introduce legislation Friday that would create a commission to “help ensure effective and uninterrupted leadership” in the presidency.

The panel would be called the Commission on Presidential Capacity to Discharge the Powers and Duties of Office, “the body and process called for in the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution,” the offices of Pelosi and Raskin said in a statement announcing the move.

The 25th Amendment formalizes that the vice president takes over the duties of the presidency in the event of a president’s death, inability to perform his duties or resignation from office. It also lays out a process by which a sitting president may be removed from office. Congress’s role in this, however, is limited.
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President Trump’s four-day hospitalization at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center after contracting the novel coronavirus forced the administration to answer questions about the 25th Amendment and succession.

Administration officials said Trump remained on the job despite his hospitalization for covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, and there were no plans for Vice President Pence to assume even temporary authority as president. Trump returned to the White House on Monday evening.

As Trump battles coronavirus, no plans for Pence to assume temporary authority, say administration officials

Pelosi, who as speaker is second in line to the presidency, previewed the move on Thursday, telling reporters that she would discuss the 25th Amendment on Friday. She did not elaborate.
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) attacked President Trump on Oct. 8 for his posts on coronavirus spending bill talks. (The Washington Post)

“Tomorrow, by the way, tomorrow, come here tomorrow,” Pelosi abruptly told reporters at her weekly news conference, during which she mainly spoke about the need for a new round of coronavirus economic relief. “We’re going to be talking about the 25th Amendment.”
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Asked toward the end of her news conference whether she could give more details, Pelosi only reiterated her call for reporters to return Friday.

Raskin introduced a similar measure in 2017 that would establish a congressionally appointed commission of physicians and top leaders who could evaluate the president’s health — both mental and physical — and work with the vice president on a transfer of power.

At the time, the Maryland Democrat said the move was necessary because Trump had “thrown our country into chaos at every turn” since his inauguration that January.

“For the security of our people and the safety of the Republic, we need to set up the ‘body’ called for in the 25th Amendment,” Raskin said in 2017. “The president can fire his entire Cabinet for asking the same question tens of millions of Americans are asking at their dinner tables, but he cannot fire Congress or the expert body we set up under the Constitution.”
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Since Trump’s discharge Monday, some Democrats have voiced concern about the potential side effects of his medical treatment.

During an interview Wednesday on ABC News’s “The View,” Pelosi suggested that Trump’s covid-19 medications, which include steroids, may be having an effect on his mental capabilities.

“I said yesterday to my colleagues, I said there are those who say that the steroids had an impact on people’s thinking. I don’t know, but there are those health-care providers who say that,” Pelosi said. “Also, if you have the coronavirus, it has an impact, as well.”

Under the 25th Amendment, a president could be declared “disabled” and involuntarily removed from office by joint agreement of the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet, something that has never happened.

In an event with the 92nd Street Y on Tuesday, Pelosi dismissed any suggestion of the 25th Amendment being used against Trump before the election.

“I don’t think it would work for this president — this presidency,” she said.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pelosi-presidency-succession-t
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Friday, October 9, 2020 3:34 AM

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So, Nancy ... November is just one short month away.

If you were really confident that Joe Biden (everyone's creepy uncle) were going to win, you wouldn't be reaching for the 25th Amendment, you'd just let the elections play out and have a Democrat assume the office in January.

Could it be that your internal polling shows that "Quid pro Joe" might LOSE? Are you THAT desperate to overthrow the democratic process that you would try to remove... ONCE AGAIN ... a duly elected President who might win another term? Setting your (Congressional) opinion higher than the will of the people?

YOU'RE crazy, Nancy. Maybe Trump is crazy too, but the American people just might prefer his brand of crazy over your treasonous kind.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 3:35 AM

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... stay crunchy...


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Signy - I read your posts and I get ... tired.



That makes 2 of us! I get tired of her bulls*t. And I don't even read all her posts.
"Alleged" this and "alleged" that... keyboard jockeys paid to create negative key word "articles" used to infect search engines and feeble minds. Funny coincidence: Russia has been doing the same thing - crazy, right?

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Friday, October 9, 2020 7:07 AM

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Quote:

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Signy - I read your posts and I get ... tired.



That makes 2 of us! I get tired of her bulls*t. And I don't even read all her posts.
"Alleged" this and "alleged" that... keyboard jockeys paid to create negative key word "articles" used to infect search engines and feeble minds. Funny coincidence: Russia has been doing the same thing - crazy, right?

Funny coincidence ... that's what YOU do for a living!

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Funny coincidence ... that's what YOU do for a living!

Trump's nuclear negotiation strategy is insanity: The Trump administration has asked the military to assess how quickly it could pull nuclear weapons out of storage and load them onto bombers and submarines if an arms control treaty with Russia is allowed to expire in February, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
www.politico.com/news/2020/09/28/trump-russia-nuclear-deal-talks-42273
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The next step in this crazy Trump treaty negotiation "strategy" would be to drop a nuke in order to show he is serious about limiting nuclear weapons, but Trump remains sane enough, I hope, to wait until after his second inauguration.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 9:45 AM

SIGNYM

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Did you know that so far, Trump has pulled about 23,000 troops from foreign bases?

2,500 from Iraq
10,000 Germany
8,000 Afghanistan
2,500 Syria

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Did you know that so far, Trump has pulled about 23,000 troops from foreign bases?

2,500 from Iraq
10,000 Germany
8,000 Afghanistan
2,500 Syria

Where did you get your numbers? These announced drawdowns are occurring right before the presidential election. And like Trump’s unrealistic vaccine promise and his missing health-care plan, it requires scrutiny from the news media and the American public to understand whether Trump is actually delivering.

There is a story: Trump Didn’t Shrink U.S. Military Commitments Abroad—He Expanded Them. The President’s False Promise of Retrenchment.
www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2019-12-03/trump-didnt-shrink-us-milit
ary-commitments-abroad-he-expanded-them


That story is 10 months old. Maybe there is better and more recent information? Here is a story from this week: We’re suing the Pentagon to find out where U.S. troops are deployed. Trump says he’s bringing forces home. But we don’t have enough information to know if that’s true.

The Trump administration stopped releasing data on troop deployments in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria starting in December 2017, which makes it extremely difficult to see whether they’re really withdrawing troops as the president said they would. Before then, under both Republican and Democratic administrations, the Defense Department made publicly available the number of U.S. civilian and military personnel serving in these countries in quarterly manpower reports.

To restart the release of this information, we filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request in April, but the Pentagon failed to respond. So we sued the U.S. government Wednesday to release this data, as well as information that shows why these records were kept hidden from the American public. The Project on Government Oversight will be filing a complaint as well in the coming days.
www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/07/were-suing-pentagon-find-out
-where-us-troops-are-deployed
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I heard on the news both the Iraqi and German governments independently confirmed their drawdown ..ie that it has already happened, the troops are gone. This was as of about 1 month ago. Finding that info online is difficult. But since two of the drawdowns have been confirmed, I presume the other two are also fait accompli. The overall numbers came from Tom Luongo.

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I heard on the news both the Iraqi and German governments independently confirmed their drawdown ..ie that it has already happened, the troops are gone. This was as of about 1 month ago. Finding that info online is difficult. But since two of the drawdowns have been confirmed, I presume the other two are also fait accompli. The overall numbers came from Tom Luongo.

Before Trump, knowing how many troops were overseas was easy. The Pentagon reported the numbers. But to see the numbers after Trump requires taking your case to the Supreme Court. Trump has a phobia about certified, verifiable numbers. He wants you to believe only his motor mouth speaks The Truth. Trust in Trump. Don't trust any other source. That is an insane way to run the Federal Government.

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SIGNYM

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In this case, at least two foreign governments have done us a service by confirming the drawdown, so we don't have to trust Trump about that.

There may be more than one reason to keep those number secret. One possibility is that Trump - OR THE PENTAGON- wants to hide the fact that these soldiers are simply being redelpoyed to the far east (for example).

Another is to keep warhawks like Lindsey Graham and Joe Biden from objecting to actual drawdowns.

Hard to say which is true, Unfortunately, with the media, spook agencies, State Department and internet so highly biased against Trump, information control is a necessity.

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Hard to say which is true, Unfortunately, with the media, spook agencies, State Department and internet so highly biased against Trump, information control is a necessity.

Necessity? That is your crazy Trump talking. For a different example than troop numbers, keeping the number of H-bombs a secret is crazy, especially if America is using Mutually Assured Destruction and nuclear weapons treaties to keep America safe. Oh, Trump is cancelling nuclear weapons treaties so the public doesn't need to know. His next step will probably be making it a secret about how many H-bombs exist. That is crazy, but it is what a real estate developer and long term tax cheater would do if he was fat and stupid or Kim Jong-un.

“I call that megaphone diplomacy,” said Rose Gottemoeller, who served as deputy secretary general of NATO until last year and negotiated New START when she was at the State Department. “Do we want to end up in a less stable place? Because we would be nuclear arms racing.”

“It’s very stupid,” added a former GOP arms control official who declined to be identified because he still advises the government. “It makes absolutely no sense to threaten to upload. It becomes a valid leveraging point only if the other side can’t do it. The Russians can do it, too.”

In the same interview, Billingslea also indicated that the United States would take steps to increase the number of its deployed nuclear warheads if the pact is not extended. Billinglea has previously also threatened that the U.S. could spend Russia, as well as China, “into oblivion” in a nuclear arms race.
www.politico.com/news/2020/09/28/trump-russia-nuclear-deal-talks-42273
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Fact Sheet: The United States Nuclear Arsenal
https://armscontrolcenter.org/fact-sheet-the-united-states-nuclear-ars
enal
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Status of World Nuclear Forces
https://fas.org/issues/nuclear-weapons/status-world-nuclear-forces/

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Friday, October 9, 2020 3:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, Nancy ... November is just one short month away.

If you were really confident that Joe Biden (everyone's creepy uncle) were going to win, you wouldn't be reaching for the 25th Amendment, you'd just let the elections play out and have a Democrat assume the office in January.

Could it be that your internal polling shows that "Quid pro Joe" might LOSE? Are you THAT desperate to overthrow the democratic process that you would try to remove... ONCE AGAIN ... a duly elected President who might win another term? Setting your (Congressional) opinion higher than the will of the people?

YOU'RE crazy, Nancy. Maybe Trump is crazy too, but the American people just might prefer his brand of crazy over your treasonous kind.

Perhaps you overlooked the Plan to Inaugurate President Kamala? And Veep Nancy?

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Friday, October 9, 2020 4:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, Nancy ... November is just one short month away.

If you were really confident that Joe Biden (everyone's creepy uncle) were going to win, you wouldn't be reaching for the 25th Amendment, you'd just let the elections play out and have a Democrat assume the office in January.

Could it be that your internal polling shows that "Quid pro Joe" might LOSE? Are you THAT desperate to overthrow the democratic process that you would try to remove... ONCE AGAIN ... a duly elected President who might win another term? Setting your (Congressional) opinion higher than the will of the people?

YOU'RE crazy, Nancy. Maybe Trump is crazy too, but the American people just might prefer his brand of crazy over your treasonous kind.

Perhaps you overlooked the Plan to Inaugurate President Kamala? And Veep Nancy?

That is Trump's tweet from today:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Crazy Nancy Pelosi is looking at the 25th Amendment in order to replace Joe Biden with Kamala Harris. The Dems want that to happen fast because Sleepy Joe is out of it!!!
10:41 AM · Oct 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

Pelosi knows Trump shits his pants when called fat, stupid or crazy, which is why Pelosi mentioned replacing Trump, not Biden, with the 25th Amendment. Trump had to change his underwear 6ix times today. Very sad when elderly Trump loses control of his bowels/bladder but very good for the maker of Tena Serenity Super Plus Underwear, XL.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, Nancy ... November is just one short month away.

If you were really confident that Joe Biden (everyone's creepy uncle) were going to win, you wouldn't be reaching for the 25th Amendment, you'd just let the elections play out and have a Democrat assume the office in January.

Could it be that your internal polling shows that "Quid pro Joe" might LOSE? Are you THAT desperate to overthrow the democratic process that you would try to remove... ONCE AGAIN ... a duly elected President who might win another term? Setting your (Congressional) opinion higher than the will of the people?

YOU'RE crazy, Nancy. Maybe Trump is crazy too, but the American people just might prefer his brand of crazy over your treasonous kind.

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THIS.

It was always this.

And not just Democrats either. The entire system is trying to remove him like an auto immune response.

Ted's favorite youtube content creator is The Lincoln Project, made up entirely of NeoCon warmongers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Pelosi knows Trump shits his pants when called fat, stupid or crazy, which is why Pelosi mentioned replacing Trump, not Biden, with the 25th Amendment. Trump had to change his underwear 6ix times today. Very sad when elderly Trump loses control of his bowels/bladder but very good for the maker of Tena Serenity Super Plus Underwear, XL.




Seriously...

How obsessed with me does one have to be to start spelling six that way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 9:25 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Pelosi knows Trump shits his pants when called fat, stupid or crazy, which is why Pelosi mentioned replacing Trump, not Biden, with the 25th Amendment. Trump had to change his underwear 6ix times today. Very sad when elderly Trump loses control of his bowels/bladder but very good for the maker of Tena Serenity Super Plus Underwear, XL.




Seriously...

How obsessed with me does one have to be to start spelling six that way.

My intention was to get you to comment and I was successful. I was pretty sure that, similar to every other person I know who will be voting for him, you don't understand business or government or the military or law well enough to realize Trump is fucking crazy. It is not him playing a role for your amusement and to trigger the libs. He can't control himself. Trump is seriously deranged.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 9, 2020 11:14 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

... Trump is fucking crazy. It is not him playing a role for your amusement and to trigger the libs. He can't control himself. Trump is seriously deranged.
Well ... for sure he is now. He's being Trumpish, literally on steroids. I've personally known a number of people who were put on corticosteroids to control inflammation and autoimmunity, both male and female, and in every case the males went fucking nuts, but the females never did.

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:01 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

... Trump is fucking crazy. It is not him playing a role for your amusement and to trigger the libs. He can't control himself. Trump is seriously deranged.
Well ... for sure he is now. He's being Trumpish, literally on steroids. I've personally known a number of people who were put on corticosteroids to control inflammation and autoimmunity, both male and female, and in every case the males went fucking nuts, but the females never did.

Then you will be voting for Trump because his sanity returns after the election?

There are three more reasons to vote for Trump. 1) Clinton, 2) Obama, and 3) Biden won't be punished if Trump is not reelected. That's what Trump said in an interview on Friday.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-lagging-in-polls-pressur
es-justice-dept-to-target-democrats-and-criticizes-barr/ar-BB19Sunb?ocid=msedgdhp


But the secret plot to depose Trump has spread to The New England Journal of Medicine: "Dying in a Leadership Vacuum"
Anyone else who recklessly squandered lives and money in this way would be suffering legal consequences. Our leaders have largely claimed immunity for their actions. But this election gives us the power to render judgment. Reasonable people will certainly disagree about the many political positions taken by candidates. But truth is neither liberal nor conservative. When it comes to the response to the largest public health crisis of our time, our current political leaders have demonstrated that they are dangerously incompetent. We should not abet them and enable the deaths of thousands more Americans by allowing them to keep their jobs.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:44 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Pelosi knows Trump shits his pants when called fat, stupid or crazy, which is why Pelosi mentioned replacing Trump, not Biden, with the 25th Amendment. Trump had to change his underwear 6ix times today. Very sad when elderly Trump loses control of his bowels/bladder but very good for the maker of Tena Serenity Super Plus Underwear, XL.




Seriously...

How obsessed with me does one have to be to start spelling six that way.

My intention was to get you to comment and I was successful. I was pretty sure that, similar to every other person I know who will be voting for him, you don't understand business or government or the military or law well enough to realize Trump is fucking crazy. It is not him playing a role for your amusement and to trigger the libs. He can't control himself. Trump is seriously deranged.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I'm not convinced that you know anything more about business or law or the military or the government than I do, what with your two fake personas on these boards and your constant calls and threats on the President's life.

I have no reason to take your opinion on anybody seriously.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 12, 2020 3:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I read this and I need to think about it, but it definitely gave me something new:


"We all know the saying, when you go after the king you only get one shot."

I didn't know that saying! But off hand it seems almost reasonable ... though there certainly have been kings who've had multiple people gunning for them over time. I suppose a individual person only gets one shot.

Well, they’ve gotten multiple chances to take down Trump and he’s still standing.

So, he’s clearly not king, Obama is.


Still working on the veracity of the "one shot" statement. And I don't believe Obama does diddly without his masters telling him to fetch. So, maybe not Obama, exactly ...

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Although the investigation is taking its sweet time to reach any conclusions and indictments, the DECLASSIFICATION of theFBI/media-based Russiagate hoax is revealing their dirty laundry. (One wonders what we would see should Gina Haspel unclench her butt cheeks long enuf to declassify the CIA=portion of the material)

Quote:

Declassified FBI Spreadsheet Exposes Steele Dossier Farce: Media Reports On FBI Reports Of Media Reports

CBS News Catherine Herridge has obtained a 94-page spread sheet (pdf here) showing dates of media reports, dates of Steele reports on the same material, and the FBI effort to verify or validate the circular process. In essence this is evidence of the process we initially shared almost three years ago; only now we know the names.

Former SSCI staffer Dan Jones, former Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson, and Simpson’s crew at Fusion-GPS, pitched and planted phony Trump-Russia evidence with the media and simultaneously gave those fake points to Chris Steele to supplement the dossier. Using the same method of Ezra Klein’s “JournOList” replication, Dan Jones and Fusion-GPS paid the journalists to run the stories.

…”media reports on FBI reports of media reports”…

Steele then used the same information from Jones and Fusion in his Dossier and cited the planted media reports; as evidence to substantiate. The Dossier is then provided to the FBI. The journalists then provide *indulgences* to the FBI as part of the collaboration.

The FBI, specifically Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and public information office Mike Kortan, then leak the outcomes of the FBI Dossier investigative processes to the same media that have reported on the originating material. It is all a big circle of planting and laundering the same originating false material; aka a “wrap up smear.”


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/12/cbs-obtains-94-page-ou
tline-showing-fbi-and-chris-steele-collaborative-use-of-media-reporting
/

The interesting thing about this reporting is that it links to the actual 94-page FBI spreadsheet, and (if you care to read enough of it) you'll see a pattern that the FBI leaks information to the media about an investigation based on media reports ... lather, rinse, repeat.

A lot of foam, but no substance, deliberately whipped up to confuse the weak-minded.

And it worked!




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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:11 PM

REAVERFAN


The Conservative Tree House

Theconservativetreehouse.com posts conservative-leaning stories that sometimes include misinformation. It has a lengthy description on its “About Us” page, including:

“Fear is at the core of liberalism, and love/trust is at the core of conservatism. Liberalism is about control. Conservatism is about self-empowerment.”

The site is registered through Domains By Proxy, a company that hides the identity and location of the owner of the website.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/

A whole lot more nothing from a fake news site.





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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Too bad for you that CBS' Catherine Her ridge did the original reporting and that you can see the ACTUAL FBI spreadsheet.

Kind of hard to deny, but I'm sure you'll find a way.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:27 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


probe ordered by Barr finds no wrongdoing by Obama officials

An investigation ordered by U.S. Attorney General William Barr into potentially improper “unmasking” by the Obama administration around the 2016 election has closed without finding evidence of any serious wrongdoing, the Washington Post reported Tuesday night.

President Donald Trump and other Republicans have, for months, claimed that the unmaskings proved a conspiracy and were a major scandal, but Texas U.S. Attorney John Bash will not bring any criminal charges in the matter, the Post said.

Barr appointed Bash in May to look into allegations of wrongdoing by Obama administration officials who were investigating ties between Trump’s campaign team and Russian officials in 2016.

For years, Trump has claimed that the probe by the Obama administration was illegal, and urged criminal charges be brought against those involved.

In May, Trump called the unmasking revelations “a massive thing,” and Texas Sen. John Cornyn called it the “biggest thing since Watergate.” Cornyn will NOT be retracting his smear. Nor will Trump.

www.marketwatch.com/story/unmasking-probe-ordered-by-barr-finds-no-wro
ngdoing-by-obama-officials-report-11602644494


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:10 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
probe ordered by Barr finds no wrongdoing by Obama officials

An investigation ordered by U.S. Attorney General William Barr into potentially improper “unmasking” by the Obama administration around the 2016 election has closed without finding evidence of any serious wrongdoing, the Washington Post reported Tuesday night.

President Donald Trump and other Republicans have, for months, claimed that the unmaskings proved a conspiracy and were a major scandal, but Texas U.S. Attorney John Bash will not bring any criminal charges in the matter, the Post said.

Barr appointed Bash in May to look into allegations of wrongdoing by Obama administration officials who were investigating ties between Trump’s campaign team and Russian officials in 2016.

For years, Trump has claimed that the probe by the Obama administration was illegal, and urged criminal charges be brought against those involved.

In May, Trump called the unmasking revelations “a massive thing,” and Texas Sen. John Cornyn called it the “biggest thing since Watergate.” Cornyn will NOT be retracting his smear. Nor will Trump.

www.marketwatch.com/story/unmasking-probe-ordered-by-barr-finds-no-wro
ngdoing-by-obama-officials-report-11602644494


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Typical Republicans.

Spend a fortune to find nothing. Just hype the shit out of it, and let the rubes think it has substance.

It doesn't, but the idiots buy it. #wwg1wga!!!!1!!



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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 1:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Typical Republicans.

Spend a fortune to find nothing. Just hype the shit out of it, and let the rubes think it has substance.

It doesn't, but the idiots buy it. #wwg1wga!!!!1!!





*cough* Mueller investigation *cough*

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