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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:51 AM

REAVERFAN


Oh, dear.


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Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:20 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Easy to make the top 10 when we've just made a big ole' bucket for it that we throw every non-related type of death into.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Why would hospitals across the country and/or the CDC suddenly misattribute causes of so many deaths? Why did morgues and funeral homes suddenly have trouble finding places to put dead bodies? Why would governments across the globe suddenly all fake causes of death? Do you have any cites to back up your claims?
He doesn't.


I know - been watching this thread. What brains he hasn't flushed down the toilet are definitely not functioning properly, even for him. Try to have a rational discussion but he bolts or insults or both, just like many times earlier in this thread.

This is Trump's Amerika - lots of irrational, pissed off people all over the place. It's what he does - The Great Divider.



We'll see on November 4th.

In the mean time, we're long past the point I try explaining things to retards.



Like I said... no discussion, no logic, no thinking. You ever seen this country this divided and pissed off?

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Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:27 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump's breaking records. Worst economy since the great depression.


I wonder - do you suppose Putin is paying Trump a bounty for every dead American caused by Trump Flu?
Naw! He doesn't have to pay him anything! Trump is doing it for FREE!

All Putin has to do on any of these many calls they've had recently is butter him up, "You are testing so much, Donnie! Incredible! How are you able to do that? It's like a miracle! Pat yourself on the back!
Me? What are we doing? Ah, my best people say it will just disappear if we just wait it out. We're going to save millions."

Seriously, Trump is Putin's dream US president. Killing more Americans than any recent war - Putin couldn't have imagined how he could have inflicted as much death on America without even firing a single a bullet.

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Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Easy to make the top 10 when we've just made a big ole' bucket for it that we throw every non-related type of death into.

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Why would hospitals across the country and/or the CDC suddenly misattribute causes of so many deaths? Why did morgues and funeral homes suddenly have trouble finding places to put dead bodies? Why would governments across the globe suddenly all fake causes of death? Do you have any cites to back up your claims?
He doesn't.


I know - been watching this thread. What brains he hasn't flushed down the toilet are definitely not functioning properly, even for him. Try to have a rational discussion but he bolts or insults or both, just like many times earlier in this thread.

This is Trump's Amerika - lots of irrational, pissed off people all over the place. It's what he does - The Great Divider.



We'll see on November 4th.

In the mean time, we're long past the point I try explaining things to retards.



Like I said... no discussion, no logic, no thinking. You ever seen this country this divided and pissed off?



Don't care about your dumbass opinion, buddy.

When Trump wins, I'm going to laugh a lot at your expense.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


JACK - do you really think the election is going to determine anything about the nature of COVID-19?

Yanno - it's a giant political poll ... and we know about polls. They measure people's opinions. But since when does political opinion determine the nature of reality?

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 12:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. 4 more years of Coomph panic when Trump wins.

In the alternate timeline where Biden wins, you don't hear about it anymore after spring of 2021.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 2:42 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You seem to mistake political panic v political silence for some kind of reality about the virus. I think you've become terribly confused by your own extreme partisanship.

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You seem to mistake political panic v political silence for some kind of reality about the virus.


No. The media does.

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I think you've become terribly confused by your own extreme partisanship.


I'm not partisan. I loathe Democrats in 2020, but they make it easy to do. I've always never been a fan of Republicans.

I'm 100% behind Trump though. Who is an 80's Democrat. Who is not loved by many Republican politicians and didn't get GWB's endorsement.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:33 AM

THG


Deaths___174,963___+984

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Meanwhile, 7,808 people die in America every day, and a large majority of the deaths Ted keeps posting fall in those 7,808 deaths.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 4:15 PM

THG


Second senator tests positive for coronavirus

Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) said on Thursday that he has tested positive for the coronavirus, becoming the second senator known to do so.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/second-senator-tests-positive-
for-coronavirus/ar-BB18clld?ocid=msedgntp

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 22, 2020 9:57 AM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Deaths___177,834___+2,871



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Sunday, August 23, 2020 7:57 AM

THG


Deaths___178,692___+858

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Sunday, August 23, 2020 4:19 PM

BRENDA


I posted farther back in the thread about sports.

Well, there is good news on that front. The Vancouver Canucks are the only Canadian team still standing in the Stanley Cup play offs. They just gave the boot to the Saint Louis Blues the reigning Stanley cup winners.

Vancouver has now moved on to the second round. Canucks Nation is on the rise.

Though there was an incident at a baseball game over the weekend.

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Sunday, August 23, 2020 5:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Deaths___177,834___+2,871





Good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 24, 2020 9:18 AM

THG


Deaths___179,329___+637

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Monday, August 24, 2020 10:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___179,329___+637


DAY 237, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,850,496

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 24, 2020 2:24 PM

REAVERFAN



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Monday, August 24, 2020 3:40 PM

THG


The thing is, is that most of the coronavirus deaths are due to Trumps incompetency.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, August 24, 2020 5:33 PM

REAVERFAN


Nope, nothing cultish here...


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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:23 AM

THG


Deaths___179,740___+411

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___179,740___+411


DAY 238, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,858,304

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:12 AM

THG


67% die of diseases due to ageing. In 2018, 48,344
Americans died by suicide

There was no reason other than Trumps incompetency that hundreds of thousands of Americans will take there place as a statistic of death this year due to the virus.


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Nope, nothing cultish here...

There is nothing illogical here. TRUMP didn't order the lockdowns, therefore TRUMP is not responsible for job loss.

Is there anything he could have, or should have, done differently?



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:22 AM

THG


Sigs ignorance is monumental.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by THG:
Sigs ignorance is monumental.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
HAHAHA!!

It's a shit sandwich, no matter which bite you take! Either lock down the entire nation (only a President might be able to do that) and crash the economy, or do nothing and let people die.

What would YOU have done? Besides bitch and complain, that is?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:42 AM

REAVERFAN


4% of the world's population, 25% of the COVID. Other countries acted promptly and have it under control.

This is all due to Trump's lying and incompetence, along with reichwing media pushing his lies and misinformation. The buck stops nowhere in Trump's hellish fascist network of criminals.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:18 PM

THG


Sig again shows she doesn't understand the subject at hand. She sounds like Trump. If the country had shut down all at once we'd all be doing as well as New York is doing now. All you need do is watch Trump in the video to see why that didn't happen. He's a moron. Sig's a moron.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.




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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:28 PM

REAVERFAN


Almost 50 North Texans Drank Bleach This Month, Poison Center Warns ‘Stop, It Won’t Cure COVID’
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/08/24/almost-50-north-texans-drank-bleac
h-this-month-poison-center-warns-stop-it-wont-cure-covid/

This is the level of ignorance found in all trumptards. They live in a fake world.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What would YOU have done?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK
I presume this is a real question that I'll attempt to answer.

1) Use the defense production act to ramp up masks and other ppe, ventilators, and especially testing, to adequate levels.
Now, in hindsight, ventilators weren't the dividing line between life and death for many patients. So that would have been a wasted effort. But AT THE TIME, it seemed important, and you can only go with the best information you have AT THE TIME.
AT THE TIME the testing failures were excruciatingly frustrating especially because there was a recognized international laboratory test available, as was the lack of ppe.
I would definitely have addressed all those ASAP, including using the defense production act to address supply-chain problems.

2) On a related note, I would have rolled out the SARS-CoV-2 surveillance system (that was supposed to come online, but never did, because of lack of testing).
Now there are all sort of technical and structural reasons why this would have been difficult, besides the CDC choking on test kits and supply chain issues - and that has to do with the US system being a hodgepodge of incompatible, competing, small-scale, siloed centers worried about profitability. But that's what the defense production act is for.

3) I would have shut down the borders more completely ASAP. Again, this is trying to place myself back when rather than use hindsight, but at the time I thought it was a good idea, underused.

4) I would have recommend a cordon sanitaire to highly affected areas and made available federal resources to any area trying to impose one.


Anyway, I need to get on with my day before it gets too horribly hot, and there are other things I recall being really frustrating at the time, but this is what I have for now.

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If you drink bleach, you get what's coming to you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 26, 2020 6:03 AM

THG


Deaths___180,375___+635


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Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___180,375___+635



DAY 239, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,866,112


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 6:32 AM

THG


Deaths___181,791___+1,416

Jacks taken a page out of sig and kiki's playbook. Jack suggests that because people die everyday for all sorts of reasons, people dying due to Trumps failures is meaningless. Not so moron.

Fallacy of Relative Privation

The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to worse problems, is an informal fallacy which attempts to suggest that the opponent's argument should be ignored because there are more important problems in the world, despite the fact that these issues are often completely unrelated to the subject under discussion. A well-known example of this fallacy is the response "but there are children starving in Africa," with the implication that any issue less serious than that is not worthy of discussion.

It goes on but you get the point. Jacks an ass. He has no good argument so he resorts to a fallacy of relative privation. How many people die in this country every day. That's two separate issues dummy.

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___181,791___+1,416


DAY 239, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,873,920

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:50 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___181,791___+1,416


DAY 239, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,873,920

Do Right, Be Right. :)
How many died from Hurricane Katrina? 1,833. But it was a big news story that got President Bush into big trouble. Maybe the hurricane should have been ignored as nothing compared to how many die per year. Republicans are ignoring Covid-19 as less than nothing:

Speaker after speaker at the Republican National Convention referred to Covid-19, if at all, in the past tense. Their not-so-subtle message was that the pandemic is over, but it keeps killing as many people per day as Katrina. It is a Katrina level catastrophe every day, month after month.

If I had to pick a single day when America lost the fight against the coronavirus, it would be April 17. That was the day when Trump proclaimed his support for mobs — some of whose members were carrying guns — that were threatening Democratic state governments and demanding an end to social distancing. “LIBERATE MINNESOTA,” he tweeted, followed by “LIBERATE MICHIGAN” and “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd amendment.” (That last bit reads an awful lot like an incitement to armed insurrection.)

In so doing, Trump, in his eagerness to see good economic numbers, chose to disregard warnings from health experts that returning to business as usual would lead to a new surge in infections. And while the Democratic governors he targeted mostly ignored his taunts, many Republican governors, especially in the Sunbelt, rushed to remove restrictions on restaurants, bars, even gyms.

The result was a vast national catastrophe as big as Katrina, but repeated day after day after day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___181,791___+1,416


DAY 239, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,873,920


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:50 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___181,791___+1,416


DAY 239, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,873,920


Do Right, Be Right. :)
Constantly you remind us here at fff.net that you are an unbalanced man much the same as Trump Jr.: Trump Jr. defends saying Democrats want millions to die from coronavirus
www.axios.com/donald-trump-jr-twitter-coronavirus-79ccebd8-37c7-4d97-b
a39-23bca092bc07.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___181,791___+1,416


DAY 240, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,873,920


My bad. It's day 240.



And fuck your fake empathy, sociopath.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, August 28, 2020 7:27 AM

THG


Deaths___182,923___+1,132


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Friday, August 28, 2020 7:30 AM

THG


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, August 28, 2020 10:35 PM

THG


Coronavirus model projects more than 317,000 US Covid-19 deaths by December

A well-known coronavirus model previously cited by the White House forecasts more than 317,000 US deaths from Covid-19 by December.

As of Friday morning, the model from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington projects that 317,312 people may die from the illness -- marking an increase of about 8,000 deaths from a previous estimate the model projected a week ago.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/coronavirus-model-projects-mo
re-than-317-000-us-covid-19-deaths-by-december/ar-BB18tc6v?ocid=msedgntp

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, August 28, 2020 10:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___182,923___+1,132



DAY 241, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,881,728

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:23 AM

THG


Jack has the same problem comrades kiki and sig have.

As Trumps Presidency unfolds. They find different ways to deflect away from any and all, the tragedy created by Trumps failures regarding the virus. Any and all, mayhem in the streets due to Trump. Any and all, harm to our relations with our allies. Any and all, of his stupid foreign policy decisions and pandering to dictators. Any and all, of his attempts to dismantle our democratic institutions. Any and all, of his complete disregard for the rule of law. Any and all, of his trolling tweet attacks against good and honorable people. Any and all, of his thousands upon thousands of lies.

The list of Trumps any and all’s is endless. So I'll just say; all the different ways comrades kiki sig and Jack find to defend him shows who they are. It also shows the issues they complain about are completely and thoroughly disingenuous. They have no real concerns, other than Trump staying in the White House.

This post fits into any discussion as a response to the crap Trumps supporters post in any thread. This is it in a nut shell. This is the discussion. This is the point.


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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



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Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:26 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Jack has the same problem comrades kiki and sig have.

As Trumps Presidency unfolds. They find different ways to deflect away from any and all, the tragedy created by Trumps failures regarding the virus.
Yep - for SURE I have the problem of ignoring the virus and trying to deflect away from that topic!

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:28 AM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Jack has the same problem comrades kiki and sig have.

As Trumps Presidency unfolds. They find different ways to deflect away from any and all, the tragedy created by Trumps failures regarding the virus.
Yep - for SURE I have the problem of ignoring the virus and trying to deflect away from that topic!


How about, Any and all, harm to our relations with our allies. Any and all, of his stupid foreign policy decisions and pandering to dictators. Any and all, of his attempts to dismantle our democratic institutions. Any and all, of his complete disregard for the rule of law. Any and all, of his trolling tweet attacks against good and honorable people. Any and all, of his thousands upon thousands of lies.

You fool no one comrade.


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:32 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:34 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


You're quoting me dummy. Get it, probably not. Why, read my signature. It explains it all. Too funny...

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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Your signature says everything anyone needs to know.

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