Some Covid-19 thoughts by captaincrunch

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nope.

It's a 50/50 split. That number hasn't changed.

Good thing people have built up natural immunity and most people won't need the shots. Because we're not taking them, and fuck any mandates.

In Texas, the people are split, economically, between the top and bottom 50%. Most of the bottom half don't get vaccinations. They don't quit smoking, either, and don't brush their teeth correctly. Lot of things the bottom does wrong and yet insists it's their right, they're right. Statistically it is very predictable how their lives end.

6ix, you are proof those professors at MIT are correct:

Huge mortality gap in U.S. In unprecedented detail, lifespan gap shown to be large and growing rapidly.
https://news.mit.edu/2016/study-rich-poor-huge-mortality-gap-us-0411
“But the fact that they can on average expect to have 10 or 15 fewer years of life really demonstrates the level of inequality we’ve had in the United States.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nope.

It's a 50/50 split. That number hasn't changed.

Good thing people have built up natural immunity and most people won't need the shots. Because we're not taking them, and fuck any mandates.
In Texas, the people are split, economically, between the top and bottom 50%. Most of the bottom half don't get vaccinations. They don't quit smoking, either, and don't brush their teeth correctly. Lot of things the bottom does wrong and yet insists it's their right, they're right. Statistically it is very predictable how their lives end.

6ix, you are proof those professors at MIT are correct:

Huge mortality gap in U.S. In unprecedented detail, lifespan gap shown to be large and growing rapidly.
https://news.mit.edu/2016/study-rich-poor-huge-mortality-gap-us-0411
“But the fact that they can on average expect to have 10 or 15 fewer years of life really demonstrates the level of inequality we’ve had in the United States.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

You described Jack right down to not being able to take care of his teeth. We've all heard him bitch about that.

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 12:03 PM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good thing people have built up natural immunity and most people won't need the shots. Because we're not taking them, and fuck any mandates.

How can you tell if someone has built up natural immunity? How do you know it's "most?" How would you/The Gov/Soros mandate a vaccine? You said: "Because we're not taking them" who's the "we" in "we're?"

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:14 PM

BRENDA

I hear the train a coming
It's coming round the bend
And I ain't seen the sunshine
Since I don't know when
But I'm stuck in Folsom prison
And time just keeps dragging on

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:52 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

OK. FINALLY.

ACTUAL CDC NUMBERS for SOME causes of death for SOME of 2020.

Now, the CDC cautions that these numbers are "provisional" and "incomplete".

But their numbers show that deaths from OTHER medical causes, like hypertension, diabetes, kidney failure and so on, are HIGHER than before COVID-19, not less.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

For example, additional "excess" deaths above normal since February 2, 2020 for

influenza and pneumonia IIXXXXXXXXXX 3,054
chronic lower respiratory disease XXXXXX 1,026
other diseases of the respiratory system IX 1,921

Big ticket killers and the excess death contributions are

Alzheimer's disease and dementia XXXX 37,125
Hypertensive diseases IIXXXXXXXXXXX 21,954
Ischemic heart disease IXXXXXXXXXXX 14,504
Diabetes XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 13,739

All in all, 117,383 EXTRA people are estimated to have died in addition to deaths from COVID-19.

(Suicides, accidents, and homicides are excluded as the CDC notes, many investigations are still ongoing.)

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Dr. Woolf also warned that many people who are not captured in mortality statistics may still have adverse health outcomes.

“A person who survived the pandemic may end up deteriorating over the next few years because of problems that happened during the pandemic,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/13/us/deaths-covid-other-c
auses.html

X-posted in the 'new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus' thread

Now MOST people would understand that this disproves JACK's scenario that the who people died of COVID-19 were going to die anyway of something else, and that it would all balance out. And obviously that's not true. But I feel the need to point it out specifically to JACK.

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 3:39 PM

OBEY

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 3:53 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Because the entire planet has conspired to gaslight JACK about COVID-19.

Sure.

Whatever.

(But thanks for the bump and a reason for me to repost the actual information!)

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 3:55 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:14 PM

BRENDA

Some people remind me of a character from "Fiddler on the Roof". The beginning of the film in the middle of town. The book seller rushes over to Tevye at his cart filling his weekly orders for cheese, milk and butter. The book seller has his newspaper in his hand and is trying to tell the others what is in it.

One character says, "Why should I worry about the outside world? Let the outside world break its own head."

A young man walks up to them and takes the newspaper from the book seller and tells them, "They should know about the outside world. "

Tevye agrees with Perchik but a lot of the other town folk don't.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 4:24 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Not particularly.

Let's take JACK, for example.

The bookseller is trying to tell everyone "The Russian army is 20 miles away and marching towards the village to attack it! We need to be prepared!!!!".

Another character says - "No such thing. Go home everybody. Don't worry. Be happy".

That's JACK. He's not JUST ignoring it, he's denying there's even a problem and that it needs to be addressed.

You may feel somewhat remote from the US crisis, Brenda, and that it's not a big deal here, for 3 reasons:

1) Canada did a better job protecting its citizens, and so now it doesn't have a similar the death toll, case-load, and crisis on its hands compared to the US. Here in LACounty, for example, test positivity rates are at 10%. That means that, on average, roughly 1 in 10 people I rub elbows with are infected when I'm out and about doing what I need to do.
Canada overall now has 15 new cases every day per 100,000 people, the US has 64, more than 4X your number. (Not 4% more, 4 TIMES.)
And so your risk there is not nearly what it is here.

2) Everybody in Canada has healthcare, unlike the US where many people are uninsured, many don't get any medical care at all their entire lives (except when they visit the county ER or visit a free county clinic), and where even the insured always face bankrupting medical costs from a serious illness (unless they're independently wealthy). People are coming into this crisis with unaddressed comorbidities, and really worry about having to go to the hospital if they get sick enough, and ruining their family's entire financial future.

3) Canada has a consolidated enough, large enough medical system that can ramp up services to handle case loads, unlike the US which is for-profit, and operated on a shoestring in private, siloed domains. Excess capacity cuts profits. And only small-scale investments are made. And they're almost never compatible with anyone else.
There is no 'ramp up' spare capacity. There is no 'cooperative' capacity with everybody running their small, hand-crafted systems. So testing LABORATORIES can't keep up. And hospitals across the country are running out of beds, especially ICU beds. And of course, staffing across the country is the biggest issue. When COVID-19 was isolated like in NYC, people could be 'borrowed' from 'somewhere'. But now, there's no 'somewhere' to 'borrow' from.
Here in my home town, the local community hospital has all of 8 ICU beds - and of last report, 7 are filled with COVID-19 cases. TECHNICALLY the ICU is less than 90% occupied. And hey! - that doesn't sound so bad, does it? It has more than 10% to spare!
But that is one and only one bed. God forbid someone has a heart attack and another person gets in a serious enough car accident - or too many critical COVID-19 cases come in at the same time. Somebody is not going to get the ICU bed they need.

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Sunday, December 13, 2020 5:45 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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OBEY

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

I Just Don't Trust Them

I believe in getting immunity the old-fashioned way: By letting a bat virus take control of my lungs and turn my face into a disgusting plague fountain while my immune system desperately Googles 'how to make spike protein antibodies'.

https://xkcd.com/2397/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 14, 2020 12:11 AM

Shots are out there.

Go and get 'em, sheep.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 12:25 AM

"The vaccine is so safe that they have to threaten people to take it for a disease so deadly you have to be tested to know if you have it. "

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 1:11 AM

... stay crunchy...

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OBEY

FEELZ

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Monday, December 14, 2020 8:00 AM

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OBEY

FEELZ

SHEEP

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 8:07 AM

The personification of ignorance and untreated mental illness. ^

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Monday, December 14, 2020 8:08 AM

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The personification of ignorance and untreated mental illness. ^

No. That's what this is...

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 8:24 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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OBEY

FEELZ

SHEEP

The doctors are protecting themselves by getting vaccinated before their patients. But 6ix won't be vaccinated because he is too stupid to be a doctor. He is too stupid to hold any job without eventually getting his dumb white trash ass fired. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497

Months of waiting for a COVID-19 vaccine to arrive in Houston are almost — but not quite — over, as hospitals prepare to move the first doses from sealed subzero shipments and into the arms of thousands of front-line health care workers this week.

About 19,500 doses of Pfizer’s vaccine will arrive Monday at four medical centers in Texas: MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Methodist Dallas Medical Center, Wellness 360 at UT Health San Antonio and UT Health Austin’s Dell Medical School, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services, which is overseeing deliveries of the first vaccine approved and shipped in the United States.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/MD
-Anderson-only-Houston-spot-so-far-with-Monday-15798734.php

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 14, 2020 9:14 AM

lol

We'll see who's stupid buddy.

Enjoy your shots.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 11:16 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OBEY

FEELZ

SHEEP

I get my Covid-19 info from this guy:

Dr. Anthony Fauci - Awards and honors:

Ben Carson and Anthony Fauci (right) being announced as recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom at the White House on June 19, 2008
1979: Arthur S. Flemming Award[67]
1993: Honorary Doctor of Science, Bates College[68]
1995: Ernst Jung Prize (shared with Samuel A. Wells, Jr.)[69]
1995: Honorary Doctor of Science, Duke University[70]
1996: Honorary Doctor of Science, Colgate University[71]
1999: Honorary Doctor of Public Service Degree, Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania[72]
2002: Albany Medical Center Prize[73]
2003: American Academy of Achievement's Golden Plate Award[74]
2005: National Medal of Science[75]
2005: American Association of Immunologists Lifetime Achievement Award[76]
2007: Mary Woodard Lasker Public Service Award[77]
2007: George M. Kober Medal, Association of American Physicians[7]
2008: Presidential Medal of Freedom[74]
2013: UCSF medal[78]
2013: Robert Koch Gold Medal[79]
2013: Prince Mahidol Award[80]
2015: Honorary Degree, Johns Hopkins University[81]
2016: John Dirks Canada Gairdner Global Health Award[82]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, commencement speaker, American University[83]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, Boston University[84]
2020: Federal Employee of the Year[85]
2020: Presidential Citation for Exemplary Leadership, National Academy of Medicine[86]
2020: Ripple of Hope Award from the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights[87]
2020: TIME Magazine's Guardian of the Year, along with the frontline health workers, Assa Traoré, Porche Bennett-Bey, and racial justice organizers.[88]
In addition to receiving an honorary degree in 2015, Fauci was invited to deliver guest remarks on May 21, 2020, for the Johns Hopkins University Class of 2020.[89] Other notable guest speakers during the virtual ceremony included Reddit co-founder and commencement speaker Alexis Ohanian; and philanthropist and former New York City mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Jack gets his from some guy named JP on YouTube.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 11:21 AM

Deaths

302,141___+863

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Monday, December 14, 2020 1:17 PM

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Monday, December 14, 2020 1:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OBEY

FEELZ

SHEEP

I get my Covid-19 info from this guy:

Dr. Anthony Fauci - Awards and honors:

Ben Carson and Anthony Fauci (right) being announced as recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom at the White House on June 19, 2008
1979: Arthur S. Flemming Award[67]
1993: Honorary Doctor of Science, Bates College[68]
1995: Ernst Jung Prize (shared with Samuel A. Wells, Jr.)[69]
1995: Honorary Doctor of Science, Duke University[70]
1996: Honorary Doctor of Science, Colgate University[71]
1999: Honorary Doctor of Public Service Degree, Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania[72]
2002: Albany Medical Center Prize[73]
2003: American Academy of Achievement's Golden Plate Award[74]
2005: National Medal of Science[75]
2005: American Association of Immunologists Lifetime Achievement Award[76]
2007: Mary Woodard Lasker Public Service Award[77]
2007: George M. Kober Medal, Association of American Physicians[7]
2008: Presidential Medal of Freedom[74]
2013: UCSF medal[78]
2013: Robert Koch Gold Medal[79]
2013: Prince Mahidol Award[80]
2015: Honorary Degree, Johns Hopkins University[81]
2016: John Dirks Canada Gairdner Global Health Award[82]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, commencement speaker, American University[83]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, Boston University[84]
2020: Federal Employee of the Year[85]
2020: Presidential Citation for Exemplary Leadership, National Academy of Medicine[86]
2020: Ripple of Hope Award from the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights[87]
2020: TIME Magazine's Guardian of the Year, along with the frontline health workers, Assa Traoré, Porche Bennett-Bey, and racial justice organizers.[88]
In addition to receiving an honorary degree in 2015, Fauci was invited to deliver guest remarks on May 21, 2020, for the Johns Hopkins University Class of 2020.[89] Other notable guest speakers during the virtual ceremony included Reddit co-founder and commencement speaker Alexis Ohanian; and philanthropist and former New York City mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Jack gets his from some guy named JP on YouTube.

Enjoy your free* shots.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 1:47 PM

NOT from JP: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/20/why-the-push-for-a-quick-coro
navirus-vaccine-could-backfire-139854

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“We seem to be willing to rush a vaccine into clinical trials without extensive animal model or safety testing,” said Paul Offit, a University of Pennsylvania immunologist who co-developed the rotavirus vaccine. “People are so scared of coronavirus that even those who are young and healthy will be willing to take a relatively untested product — even though the wild-type virus is unlikely to kill them.”

Offit’s vaccine, which eliminates thousands of infant deaths each year, took 26 years from design to licensure.

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Red tape and delay can sometimes pay dividends in drug and vaccine approvals. Industry officials laid into FDA official Frances Kelsey in 1961 for her reluctance to approve their morning sickness drug thalidomide, but her sloth turned into a blessing. While Kelsey pondered the submission, news of crippling birth defects in thousands of babies poured in from Europe, and the FDA never approved the drug.

During the 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic, federal officials decided not to approve vaccines that contained a new substance designed to boost the vaccine’s effectiveness. As a result, the United States was spared a controversy over an unpredictable side effect — narcolepsy — that struck people in Finland who got the newer shots.

So whether you're taking the shots because you're scared of the virus, or even more so if you're just scared of what other people will think of you if you don't, I'd urge you to take caution when making that decision for yourself. YOU are the human trials.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 2:04 PM

Remember the housing market "bubble"?

We've got a "people bubble" right now.

Just as in most areas the "replacement value" put on most houses for homeowners insurance is quite a bit more than the actual values of homes still to this day, the costs to pay health insurance claims and pay out life insurance policies have become far too high compared to the value of an actual single human life.

This is another side-effect of overpopulation.

And if you think I'm bullshitting you when I say they have models out there that have put a dollar value on your life from any factor including age and sex to what's in the darkest part of your medical records, I suggest you do a bit of research on that. They know to the penny what they feel your pinky finger tip is worth if you cut it off on the job site.

At 7 1/2 BILLION people on the planet, we're literally a dime a dozen.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2020 2:46 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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During the 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic, federal officials decided not to approve vaccines that contained a new substance designed to boost the vaccine’s effectiveness. As a result, the United States was spared a controversy over an unpredictable side effect — narcolepsy — that struck people in Finland who got the newer shots.

I always wonder when I see quotes without links.

This one I traced back to Politico -
... that was ALSO full of quotes without links!

One of the claims from the article JACK didn't quote was this

Quote:
A massive campaign to vaccinate against the 1976 swine flu flopped when the disease turned out to be mild, but hundreds of people suffered a rare nerve disorder after vaccination.

The REAL story behind the supposed connection between swine flu and the 'rare nerve disorder' was that 25 people developed Guillain–Barré after vaccination - but that 58 UNvaccinated people did was well. And that the risk - that the vaccination seems to have reduced - was 2 in a million. IT'S A PLAGUE I TELL YOU!! Ha ha ha ha ha ...
https://www.livescience.com/21504-swine-flu-vaccine-nerve-disorder-gbs
.html

Meanwhile the claim about an 'additive' in the H1N1 vaccine causing narcolepsy looks like pure bunk ... hogwash ... horse manure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic_vaccine

In sum - there's no 'there' there. So much for RCP being a reliable 'source' of facts.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 2:47 PM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OBEY

FEELZ

SHEEP

I get my Covid-19 info from this guy:

Dr. Anthony Fauci - Awards and honors:

Ben Carson and Anthony Fauci (right) being announced as recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom at the White House on June 19, 2008
1979: Arthur S. Flemming Award[67]
1993: Honorary Doctor of Science, Bates College[68]
1995: Ernst Jung Prize (shared with Samuel A. Wells, Jr.)[69]
1995: Honorary Doctor of Science, Duke University[70]
1996: Honorary Doctor of Science, Colgate University[71]
1999: Honorary Doctor of Public Service Degree, Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania[72]
2002: Albany Medical Center Prize[73]
2003: American Academy of Achievement's Golden Plate Award[74]
2005: National Medal of Science[75]
2005: American Association of Immunologists Lifetime Achievement Award[76]
2007: Mary Woodard Lasker Public Service Award[77]
2007: George M. Kober Medal, Association of American Physicians[7]
2008: Presidential Medal of Freedom[74]
2013: UCSF medal[78]
2013: Robert Koch Gold Medal[79]
2013: Prince Mahidol Award[80]
2015: Honorary Degree, Johns Hopkins University[81]
2016: John Dirks Canada Gairdner Global Health Award[82]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, commencement speaker, American University[83]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, Boston University[84]
2020: Federal Employee of the Year[85]
2020: Presidential Citation for Exemplary Leadership, National Academy of Medicine[86]
2020: Ripple of Hope Award from the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights[87]
2020: TIME Magazine's Guardian of the Year, along with the frontline health workers, Assa Traoré, Porche Bennett-Bey, and racial justice organizers.[88]
In addition to receiving an honorary degree in 2015, Fauci was invited to deliver guest remarks on May 21, 2020, for the Johns Hopkins University Class of 2020.[89] Other notable guest speakers during the virtual ceremony included Reddit co-founder and commencement speaker Alexis Ohanian; and philanthropist and former New York City mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Jack gets his from some guy named JP on YouTube.

Enjoy your free* shots.

^Not a single iq point was used in the making of Jack's post. Even when you stack up overwhelming evidence Dumptards gonna choose dumb. It's like they hate themselves.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 2:58 PM

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Not a single iq point was used in the making of Jack's post. Even when you stack up overwhelming evidence Dumptards gonna choose dumb. It's like they hate themselves.

Not sure G. In jacks case he seems to be so dumb he doesn't realize it, or how obvious it is to us.

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:58 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Remember the housing market "bubble"?

We've got a "people bubble" right now.

Just as in most areas the "replacement value" put on most houses for homeowners insurance is quite a bit more than the actual values of homes still to this day, the costs to pay health insurance claims and pay out life insurance policies have become far too high compared to the value of an actual single human life.

This is another side-effect of overpopulation.

And if you think I'm bullshitting you when I say they have models out there that have put a dollar value on your life from any factor including age and sex to what's in the darkest part of your medical records, I suggest you do a bit of research on that. They know to the penny what they feel your pinky finger tip is worth if you cut it off on the job site.

At 7 1/2 BILLION people on the planet, we're literally a dime a dozen.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

6ix, life insurance companies lose money when an unexpectedly large number of people die. Insurance companies want you to live forever and keep paying them for insurance. An insurance underwriter wants you to get vaccinated. The longer you live, the more money they make. But, 6ix, your whole argument is that insurance companies are better off the sooner you die. That is a complete misunderstanding of how those companies make a profit.
https://www.sfglife.com/life-insurance/mortgage-protection/

By the way, health insurance companies want you to stay healthy, just the same as life insurance companies want you to live forever. When you are sick, it costs them. That's the reason companies did not sign up people with pre-existing conditions. That is why people lied about their health to these companies. But under current law, health insurance companies can’t refuse to cover you or charge you more just because you have a “pre-existing condition” — that is, a health problem you had before the date that new health coverage starts. These rules went into effect for plan years beginning on or after January 1, 2014.
https://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/about-the-aca/pre-existing-conditions/i
ndex.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:11 AM

Deaths

303,482___+1,341

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:41 AM

‘Like a Hand Grasping’: Trump Appointees Describe the Crushing of the C.D.C.

What they witnessed during the coronavirus pandemic this year in the C.D.C.’s leadership suite on the 12-floor headquarters here shook them: Washington’s dismissal of science, the White House’s slow suffocation of the agency’s voice, the meddling in its messages and the siphoning of its budget.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-a-hand-grasping-trump-app
ointees-describe-the-crushing-of-the-c-d-c/ar-BB1bYuT8?ocid=msedgntp

We're going to learn so much about Trumps involvements going forward it’s going to anger the country even more. In this case we endured all the negative posts about the C.D.C. from Trump loyalists here, while some of us knew because it was being reported on in real time, and we are independent enough to go where the facts lead, that Trump was destroying the agency from inside and out. A complete betrayal of the American people.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:54 AM

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:41 PM

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With five weeks left in his term, Trump claims victory on shower head pressure

"Because my hair — I don’t know about you, but it has to be perfect. Perfect.”

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/with-five-weeks-left-trump-claim
s-victory-on-shower-head-pressure/ar-BB1bYGZX?ocid=msedgntp

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:06 AM

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California requests 5,000 more body bags as COVID-19 cases surge

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Friday, December 18, 2020 9:01 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

562,000 Americans will have died from Covid-19 by April 1, 2021

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-u
pdates-12-18-20/h_940f4eda5fbf48df0ea3b6f6b13c07c6

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 18, 2020 9:20 AM

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
562,000 Americans will have died from Covid-19 by April 1, 2021

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder

Wikipedia's entry on this topic "Mass Murder" is qualified by this statement:

"This article is about killing of multiple people by individuals and non-state groups. For killing of people by governments, see Homicide by state actors. For broader coverage of this topic, see Massacre."

So the first part of their entry for "mass murder" starts with:

"Mass murder is the act of murdering a number of people, typically simultaneously or over a relatively short period of time and in close geographic proximity.[1][2] The FBI defines mass murder as murdering four or more people during an event with no "cooling-off period" between the murders. A mass murder typically occurs in a single location where one or more people kill several others.[3][4]

A mass murder may be committed by individuals or organizations whereas a spree killing is committed by one or two individuals. Mass murderers differ from spree killers, who kill at two or more locations with almost no time break between murders and are not defined by the number of victims, and serial killers, who may kill people over long periods of time."

- Wikipedia

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When I first heard someone categorize the Trump administration's handling of covid with that description, "mass murder" I thought they were stretching a bit, overly sensational, just trying to get attention. But over time...

Wikipedia's entry for "For killing of people by governments, see Homicide by state actors." is:

"By state actors
Killings by government agents may be considered lawful or unlawful according to:

Domestic law
International law to which the government has agreed by treaty
Peremptory norms which are de facto enforced as obligatory on all countries, such as prohibitions against genocide, piracy, and slavery
Types of state killings include:

Capital punishment, where the judicial system authorizes the death penalty in response to a severe crime, though some countries have abolished it completely
Lawful killing during war, such as the killing of enemy combatants
Lawful use of deadly force by law enforcement officers to maintain public safety in emergency situations.
Extrajudicial killing, where government actors kill people (typically individuals or small groups) without judicial court proceedings
War crimes that involve killing (war crimes not authorized by the government may also be committed by individuals who are then subject to domestic military justice)
Widespread, systematic killing by the government of a particular group, which depending on the target, could be called genocide, politicide, or classicide. In some cases these events may also meet definitions of crimes against humanity.
Scholars study especially large homicide events (typically 50,000 deaths in five years or less) as mass killings. Some medium- and large-scale mass killings by state actors have been termed massacres, though not all such killings have been so named. The term democide has been coined by Rudolph Rummel to describe "murder by government" in general, which includes both extrajudicial killings and widespread systematic homicide.

Killings by government agents might be called "murder" or "mass murder" in general usage, especially if seen by the commentator as unethical, but the domestic legal definitions of murder, manslaughter, etc., usually exclude killings carried out by lawful government action."

- Wikipedia

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Trump and his admin clearly have no love or respect for their own base, and surely they hate anyone who votes for Biden - so who's left? Just the immediate Trump loyalists in his immediate circle.

Something to consider when thinking of their actions or lack of actions. "Let them get infected."

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Friday, December 18, 2020 9:28 AM

Fox host: People who wear masks “treat it as a virtue signal that they're better, more scientific minded, smarter than you”
https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fox-host-people-who-
wear-masks-treat-it-virtue-signal-theyre-better-more

WILL CAIN (CO-HOST, Fox & Friends Weekend): You walk around in your daily life, how do people treat masks? They don't treat so much as a protective mechanism. They treat it as a virtue signal that they're better, more scientific minded, smarter than you. This is running rampant, and it really is the dividing line in our society now — the elites versus everyone else they view as the little people.
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First of all, when anyone calls any compassionate or informed action "virtue signaling," they're a fascist stooge.

Fascists are narcissists, so they can't conceive of the idea that a person could care about anyone other than themselves. It just doesn't compute in their tiny, defective minds.

The stupid just oozes out of these trumptards. They are pathetic. They will not be missed.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 9:43 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Trump and his admin clearly have no love or respect for their own base, and surely they hate anyone who votes for Biden - so who's left? Just the immediate Trump loyalists in his immediate circle.

Something to consider when thinking of their actions or lack of actions. "Let them get infected."

I get the feeling that another Republican President, Dwight Eisenhower, was not very careful about protecting American lives from predictable medical catastrophes:

Fallout from the Nevada nuclear testing could have led to between 340,000 and 460,000 premature deaths, mostly Americans and mainly through cancer.

If that death toll seems unreal, consider the scale of the radiation involved. Using a figure of 81 million Curies for the radioactive material released at Chernobyl as a baseline, one estimate held that the Nevada-based nuclear testing emitted 12 billion Curies into the atmosphere between 1951 and 1963. That’s the equivalent of nearly 150 Chernobyl disasters—or one a month for more than a decade.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/460000-premature-deaths-horror-
was-nuclear-weapons-testing-69512

I hope good old President Eisenhower believed it was a fair tradeoff between intimidating Russia with a display of above ground bomb tests and killing 460,000 Americans with that intimidation.

Color footage of soldiers being exposed to high levels of radiation

Color footage of atomic bomb tests with active duty military personnel at Camp Desert Rock, Nevada Test Site, Nevada. Shows soldiers in foxholes as nuclear detonation occurs nearby; light and shockwaves; blowing dust; soldiers climbing out of foxholes and running towards mushroom cloud. Some of this footage is familiar by virtue of having been seen in the film Atomic Cafe. Many soldiers who were present were exposed to high levels of radiation.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:01 PM

Criminals.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:10 PM

Really second, really? Atomic bomb in this thread.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 6:15 PM

Republican Senator Who Voted for Trump's $1.5 Trillion Tax Cut for the Rich Blocks $1,200 Stimulus Checks
"Millions are falling into poverty, and Ron Johnson—who loves tax cuts for the rich—is blocking help."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/12/18/republican-senator-who-vo
ted-trumps-15-trillion-tax-cut-rich-blocks-1200-stimulus

Under fascism, the cruelty is the point.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 8:46 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
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Really second, really? Atomic bomb in this thread.

Killing off Americans is something callus Republican Presidents are known to do even though they won't admit to doing it. It is kind of shocking that I have to explain this to you, but Eisenhower let a half million Americans die from radiation because to admit that he was deliberately harming Americans would thwart Eisenhower's military plans. Another Republican President, Ronald Reagan, pulled the same stunt with HIV/AIDS that Trump is pulling with Covid-19. As of 2018, about 700,000 people have died of HIV/AIDS in the U.S., which is about where the Covid-19 total will end.

The Reagan administration's unbelievable response to the HIV/AIDS epidemic
https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids

Covid-19 won't be the last disease discovered and Trump won't be the last President who doesn't try hard to prevent deaths.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:08 AM

Why is Moscow Mitch getting the vaccine, when he spent a year denying COVID was a problem?
https://www.axios.com/pelosi-covid-vaccine-af8dcbfc-846c-4e17-bc22-71d
8a339d58f.html?te=1&nl=coronavirus-briefing&emc=edit_cb_20201218

The trumptards have turned on all Republicans who acknowledge the undeniable fact that Trump lost in a landslide.

They call him a RINO, now. They want to kill him just as badly as they want to kill me.

People outside their fantasy bubble are enemies to be killed. People who live in reality are the problem in Trumpworld.

Right, 6ix?

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 7:11 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

As cases in the US exceed 17 million, Fox News -- with Tucker Carlson being one of the chief carnival barkers on this one -- is fanning the flames of skepticism around the Covid-19 vaccine.

Carlson openly encouraged people to be suspicious of what he described as the "glitzy" vaccine rollout on Thursday and went on to say, "So, how are the rest of us supposed to respond to a marketing campaign like this? Well, nervously. Even if you're strongly supportive of vaccines, and we are, even if you recognize how many millions of lives have been saved over the past 50 years by vaccines, and we do, it all seems a bit much. It feels false, because it is. It's too slick."

After Tucker Carlson's rant Thursday night on why Americans should be wary of a vaccine that has proven to be over 90% effective against a virus that has killed more than 310,000 Americans, he should have been plastered on the front page of every newspaper in the country. The science denial, vaccine skepticism and falsehoods that are spewed on Fox News pose a clear and present danger to the health of many Americans. This dangerous rhetoric should be framed as such.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/opinions/tucker-carlson-vaccine-rant-sh
ould-be-called-out-news-lockhart/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:14 AM

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