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You judge people for being "stupid" with their pets.

You've obviously never owned a dog before. I love dogs. Cats make shitty pets for lazy people.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Most animals have lungs that are too small to cause any serious level of infection

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Originally posted by JO753:
A likely reazon the variants are more infectious iz that they are able to survive outside a body longer. That meanz the 6 ft rule bekumzz the 12 ft rule, then 24 then a mile.
It never made much sens to me. Being down wind uv an infected person iz the danjer. And indoorz, forget it!
Breth volume iz a likely factor, but how much airborne virus duz it take?
Suppoze the virus mutates so it can liv indefinitely in the air. You coud catch it from a wisp uv breth from a sparrow a mile away.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Man... it's a great thing that we've privatized everyone's health records... I mean, we never really did that and they're hardly private at all, but when the media needs them to remain private we can pretend that a 67 year old congressman who contracted Covid-19 didn't already suffer from a myriad of ailments and we can blame his death squarely on a virus that kills nearly no one.



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Man... it's a great thing that we've privatized everyone's health records... I mean, we never really did that and they're hardly private at all, but when the media needs them to remain private we can pretend that a 67 year old congressman who contracted Covid-19 didn't already suffer from a myriad of ailments and we can blame his death squarely on a virus that kills nearly no one.



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In other news from his government paid website, Wright objected to Biden being certified as the winner, objected to Trump being impeached, and introduced an anti-abortion bill on Jan 29, 2021, even while dying. Dear Representative Wright was protecting precious babies. Another Trumptard bites the dust.
https://wright.house.gov/media


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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If you want to know...

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P.S. Please stop talking about Trump using the death penalty out of one side of your face while making fun of somebody for protecting innocent babies.

I'm a firm believer the death penalty shouldn't be used. We don't like you pro-abortionists muddying the message, mkay?

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There's plenty of hypocritical messages to be put on both parties:

republican X-tians (the party of X-tian love, forgiveness, and charity)
anti aid to children
pro war
pro gun
pro death penalty
anti abortion

liberal democrats (the party of peace, freedom, 'the little guy', and inclusiveness)
pro war
pro choice
anti gun
anti death penalty
pro aid to immigrants (but not as much to citizens)
anti free speech
pro big business

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It is 2 Congressmen, both Trumptards, dead from Covid-19, but one of them doesn't count because he died a week before he was sworn in.

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I know you think that every single doctor, medical examiner, and pathologist is a scammer and willing to lose their license by saying something is COVID-19 when it's not. But believe it or not, Jack, not only CAN they tell the difference between death from - say COVID-19 and obesity, or COVID-19 and myocardial infarction, or COVID-19 and a broken leg - but they actually document it on the death certificates.

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The hospitals are incentivized financially to put Covid-19 on the death certificate, and their OWNED doctors are ordered to put Covid-19 on there if they just happened to be infected while in the hospital and actually dying of something else.

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The insurance companies don't care what's on the death certificate, Jack.

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This Atlantic article explainz wy herd imunity iz likley never going to be reached.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/17/americas/russia-putin-sputnik-vacci
ne-latin-america-intl/index.html
Eduardo Valdes, a former diplomat and member of government coalition Frente de Todos, who now serves as chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee in Argentina's Chamber of Deputies, says there's a clear line between vaccine negotiations and external factors (in obtaining Sputnik V for Argentina). "Now is not the time to do ideology. Our goal is for the Western Hemisphere to get its vaccines and not to poke into someone else's (Russia's) internal affairs," he told CNN.

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Six countries across the region -- Argentina, Bolivia, Mexico, Nicaragua, Paraguay, and Venezuela -- have now authorized use of the Sputnik V vaccine. Others are considering authorization requests, ever more urgent given the global shortage of available vaccines.

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https://cubasi.cu/en/news/venezuela-signs-deal-russia-purchase-10-mill
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https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/colombia-en-conversaciones-para-
adquirir-vacuna-sputnik-v-EG14561612

https://cubasi.cu/en/news/belarus-and-argentina-begin-covid-19-vaccina
tions-russian-developed-sputnik-v-shot

https://news.yahoo.com/brazil-company-sees-approval-sputnik-200109573.
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Fourth Wave? When the Feck was the Third Wave?

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Amid the dire Covid warnings, one crucial fact has been largely ignored: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks. If a medication slashed cases by 77%, we’d call it a miracle pill. Why is the number of cases plummeting much faster than experts predicted?

In large part because natural immunity from prior infection is far more common than can be measured by testing. Testing has been capturing only from 10% to 25% of infections, depending on when during the pandemic someone got the virus. Applying a time-weighted case capture average of 1 in 6.5 to the cumulative 28 million confirmed cases would mean about 55% of Americans have natural immunity.

Now add people getting vaccinated. As of this week, 15% of Americans have received the vaccine, and the figure is rising fast. Former Food and Drug Commissioner Scott Gottlieb estimates 250 million doses will have been delivered to some 150 million people by the end of March.

There is reason to think the country is racing toward an extremely low level of infection. As more people have been infected, most of whom have mild or no symptoms, there are fewer Americans left to be infected. At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.

Antibody studies almost certainly underestimate natural immunity. Antibody testing doesn’t capture antigen-specific T-cells, which develop “memory” once they are activated by the virus. Survivors of the 1918 Spanish flu were found in 2008—90 years later—to have memory cells still able to produce neutralizing antibodies.

Researchers at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute found that the percentage of people mounting a T-cell response after mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection consistently exceeded the percentage with detectable antibodies. T-cell immunity was even present in people who were exposed to infected family members but never developed symptoms. A group of U.K. scientists in September pointed out that the medical community may be under-appreciating the prevalence of immunity from activated T-cells.

Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. would also suggest much broader immunity than recognized. About 1 in 600 Americans has died of Covid-19, which translates to a population fatality rate of about 0.15%. The Covid-19 infection fatality rate is about 0.23%. These numbers indicate that roughly two-thirds of the U.S. population has had the infection.

In my own conversations with medical experts, I have noticed that they too often dismiss natural immunity, arguing that we don’t have data. The data certainly doesn’t fit the classic randomized-controlled-trial model of the old-guard medical establishment. There’s no control group. But the observational data is compelling.

I have argued for months that we could save more American lives if those with prior Covid-19 infection forgo vaccines until all vulnerable seniors get their first dose. Several studies demonstrate that natural immunity should protect those who had Covid-19 until more vaccines are available. Half my friends in the medical community told me: Good idea. The other half said there isn’t enough data on natural immunity, despite the fact that reinfections have occurred in less than 1% of people—and when they do occur, the cases are mild.

But the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in.

My prediction that Covid-19 will be mostly gone by April is based on laboratory data, mathematical data, published literature and conversations with experts. But it’s also based on direct observation of how hard testing has been to get, especially for the poor. If you live in a wealthy community where worried people are vigilant about getting tested, you might think that most infections are captured by testing. But if you have seen the many barriers to testing for low-income Americans, you might think that very few infections have been captured at testing centers. Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity.

Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea. But herd immunity is the inevitable result of viral spread and vaccination. When the chain of virus transmission has been broken in multiple places, it’s harder for it to spread—and that includes the new strains.

Herd immunity has been well-documented in the Brazilian city of Manaus, where researchers in the Lancet reported the prevalence of prior Covid-19 infection to be 76%, resulting in a significant slowing of the infection. Doctors are watching a new strain that threatens to evade prior immunity. But countries where new variants have emerged, such as the U.K., South Africa and Brazil, are also seeing significant declines in daily new cases. The risk of new variants mutating around the prior vaccinated or natural immunity should be a reminder that Covid-19 will persist for decades after the pandemic is over. It should also instill a sense of urgency to develop, authorize and administer a vaccine targeted to new variants.

Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine. But scientists shouldn’t try to manipulate the public by hiding the truth. As we encourage everyone to get a vaccine, we also need to reopen schools and society to limit the damage of closures and prolonged isolation. Contingency planning for an open economy by April can deliver hope to those in despair and to those who have made large personal sacrifices.

Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, chief medical adviser to Sesame Care, and author of “The Price We Pay.”

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