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Saturday, August 28, 2021 10:10 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I was talking to the widow of an un-vaccinated Trumptard.


This is fanfic





In order for that story to be true, the following unlikely things would have to happen

1) Second would have to know a republican
2) A "trumptard"
3) a widow was celebrating her husband's death. The only logical reason would be "she killed him" and if she did, she'd be more discreet about it, or if she did, and weren't, she'd have been caught already, and wouldn't be talking to Second unless they're both in prison.
4) an unvaccinated person got the covid, can happen, like me, but rare
5) and died of it, also unlikely
6) and then someone's life is better after a death because of life insurance money. I remember life insurance paying a lot of money, but medical bills, still higher
7) An insurance company paid out for a policy on an unvaccinated anti-vaxer who had covid <-- the actually most unbelievable part of the story

So yeah, it was a fanfic

sorry, seriously, never heard anyone say "i'm glad someone very close to me is dead because $$MoNeY$$ ! Maybe I don't know people like that, only Second knows people like that


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 6:55 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Bizarre Lazar @BizarreLazar tweeted:

Tiktok just banned the milk crate challenge because people were getting seriously injured. They however will still allow you to spew Covid denial and antivaxxer propaganda because that only kills people.
6:34 PM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/BizarreLazar/status/1431399736213311492

TikTok bans 'milk crate challenge' from its app, citing concerns over dangerous acts
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/08/27/tiktok-bans-milk-crate-
challenge/5618315001
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Second,

I only tell you this because I really care.

Seek help

Dreamtrove, do you ever re-read what you have previously written? Here is a good post:
Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It occurs to me that the FDA has taken the nuclear option here by approving the Pfizer vaccination faster than it has ever approved any vaccination in it's history.

If this goes south now, they've just destroyed their reputation for at least a generation or two and nobody will ever believe anything they say.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."



It will definitely head south and the FDA has just destroyed itself. Which is a shame, because the whole planet depended on it. Most countries don't have something like that. And the useful function they did serve was the food part.

America is completely fucked. The USA govt that is.

meanwhile, I had this thought. Everything about this virus seems designed to cause maximum immune response, from the get go. Nothing evolves that way.

I think it's also not airborne. It doesn't behave at all like an airborne disease. It behaves like a blood based infectious disease. I think it spreads from the vaccinated, and they shed it, and they infect others by preparing food.

This is probably why all the restaurants stayed open. Of course, there have always been vaccinated, as we now know the vax predates the release of the pathogen itself.

So this is how Bill and Ted and Tony spread their plague. They inject people with a "vaccine" that they've patented as a bioweapon and brand named "Vaccine™" and then those people become carriers. Some of those peopel work in places where they can spread it to others.

I've given up on my initial transmission theory. I think we all got it from a bakery whose food we ate, and where the people are vaccinated. I know "in theory" the vaccines are contagious, but the pattern is clear. 100% of them seem to get the covid within days of being vaccinated, and people who have no contact with the vaccinated at all don't get it.

If it were as the media says, then outbreaks would start among the unvaccinated and spread to the unvaccinated and not to the vaccinated. Instead it clearly starts each time with the vaccinated and affects all the vaccinated first.

One of my employees is degenerating. It's a month in and he says he can't eat.I'm pretty sure most of the damage from this thing is the autoimmune problems it creates.


JSF if you're there, have you considered that Fauci may have taken Montagnier's HIV into a lab and modified it to create the effects that he wanted?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&mid=11399
56#1139956


Between 6ixStringJack and dreamtrove, dreamtrove is the clear winner of the Stephen King Award because DT writes the most entertaining tales of horror/fantasy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 7:08 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I was talking to the widow of an un-vaccinated Trumptard.


This is fanfic





In order for that story to be true, the following unlikely things would have to happen

1) Second would have to know a republican
2) A "trumptard"
3) a widow was celebrating her husband's death. The only logical reason would be "she killed him" and if she did, she'd be more discreet about it, or if she did, and weren't, she'd have been caught already, and wouldn't be talking to Second unless they're both in prison.
4) an unvaccinated person got the covid, can happen, like me, but rare
5) and died of it, also unlikely
6) and then someone's life is better after a death because of life insurance money. I remember life insurance paying a lot of money, but medical bills, still higher
7) An insurance company paid out for a policy on an unvaccinated anti-vaxer who had covid <-- the actually most unbelievable part of the story

So yeah, it was a fanfic

sorry, seriously, never heard anyone say "i'm glad someone very close to me is dead because $$MoNeY$$ ! Maybe I don't know people like that, only Second knows people like that


Not to be too picky, but for point 6: the medical debts do NOT transfer over to the common-law wife at death, especially if that common-law status has never been formalized. And you don't have to be married to the deceased to get the payout for insurance.

And for point 7: There are no life insurance policies that don't payout if the deceased has not yet been vaccinated.

Dreamtrove, you definitely are the Stephen King Award winner for fantasy/horror writing. You just make up such entertaining stories with no basis in fact.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 7:47 AM

DREAMTROVE


Well if the story is true, I feel sorry for the deceased, hereto affectionately known as the trumptard, the merry widow must really be enjoying the free cash, but this story is too convenient in adding all the incredibly unlikely details to support Second's case that the vaccinated should die of covid, but details of the story are too unlikely, and some of them have been facricated, or unstated detils that don't support the story's narrative, Like the wife was also unvaccinated and the husband died from being hit by a truck

your money argument fails btw. the assassin(she's partying on free money rejoicing in death) probably doesn't have assets, she is using the husbands, which get depleted by the medical executioners to fail to treat his covid, and then they make more money by intubating him and killing him, 54k bonus, and then insurance company makes unlikely error and pays her, but she's still down because of his medical expenses, but at least he's gone now and she can party

nothing about this story passes the sniff test, including the unlikely covid saving the day, though admittedly it is a politically selective virus

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 7:50 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


In the US's previous peak back in late January, there were about 77 new cases per day per 100,000, and one new death (77:1) .

With this current (delta) peak, there are about 48 new cases per per day per 100,000, and approximately 0.4 deaths. (120:1)

So despite the fact that these are supposedly younger, more resistant people getting seriously ill, there seems to be not much "youth benefit", as KIKI previously posted. Since obesity is a major risk factor, and many under-50 are obese, that could explain why there are so many deaths per infection.

What is keeping the figures from being worse, on an absolute scale, is that the #of infections seems to be topping out, since the curve is beginning to heel over. The #of deaths however has not yet reached its inflection point, since it lags by two weeks or so.

https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Currently, by infection rate, the top ten places are

FL/ MS are tied for first place (altho MS was a lot higher just a week ago)
TN
KY/ LA are tied for third (altho LA also was a lot higher)
SC
GA
AL
AK
AR
WV
WY

Top ten death rates
MS
LA
FL
AR
WY
NV
WY/AL
SC
MS
GA

If you're young -and fit - do us old (or fat) farts a favor:
PLEASE go mingle!


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 7:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I was talking to the widow of an un-vaccinated Trumptard.


This is fanfic





In order for that story to be true, the following unlikely things would have to happen

1) Second would have to know a republican
2) A "trumptard"
3) a widow was celebrating her husband's death. The only logical reason would be "she killed him" and if she did, she'd be more discreet about it, or if she did, and weren't, she'd have been caught already, and wouldn't be talking to Second unless they're both in prison.
4) an unvaccinated person got the covid, can happen, like me, but rare
5) and died of it, also unlikely
6) and then someone's life is better after a death because of life insurance money. I remember life insurance paying a lot of money, but medical bills, still higher
7) An insurance company paid out for a policy on an unvaccinated anti-vaxer who had covid <-- the actually most unbelievable part of the story

So yeah, it was a fanfic

sorry, seriously, never heard anyone say "i'm glad someone very close to me is dead because $$MoNeY$$ ! Maybe I don't know people like that, only Second knows people like that




Second is that person. It stands to reason that he surrounds himself with people like himself.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 8:07 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Well if the story is true, I feel sorry for the deceased, hereto affectionately known as the trumptard, the merry widow must really be enjoying the free cash, but this story is too convenient in adding all the incredibly unlikely details to support Second's case that the vaccinated should die of covid, but details of the story are too unlikely, and some of them have been facricated, or unstated detils that don't support the story's narrative, Like the wife was also unvaccinated and the husband died from being hit by a truck

your money argument fails btw. the assassin(she's partying on free money rejoicing in death) probably doesn't have assets, she is using the husbands, which get depleted by the medical executioners to fail to treat his covid, and then they make more money by intubating him and killing him, 54k bonus, and then insurance company makes unlikely error and pays her, but she's still down because of his medical expenses, but at least he's gone now and she can party

nothing about this story passes the sniff test, including the unlikely covid saving the day, though admittedly it is a politically selective virus

Dreamtrove, you are still not finished spinning stories, are you? You definitely deserve the Stephen King Award for fantasy/horror. King is the fastest, most productive writer I know -- TV shows, movies, books, King does it all and he does it fast. King's latest is Lisey's Story. At the bottom of the review is a list of other projects, reboots, sequels, King has completed: https://www.moriareviews.com/fantasy/liseys-story-2021.htm

Here is some dreamtrove writing on Afghanistan. It is every bit as horrifying as DT on Covid-19:
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Feminazi narrative was always fake. It's part of the genocide. To convince women that not having children is THE FREEDOM!

WHEN WOMEN HAVE A CHOICE, they often choose to not have children, or if they have them, to only have a few, and to make others take care of them, even from birth - for example 'wet nurses' as surrogate nursing mothers. That's been going on since at least the time of an upper class of women who had their own substantial wealth and power. See "Mother Love" for an exhaustive documentation of numbers in France through the Medieval Ages on forward.



lol

you think that was a choice ?

a satanic cult made that choice for her. It's actually Hitler's gambit, because racial supremacy, and now the sabbateans use it to breed blacks to be their slaves. Of course it won't work, black people are a lot smarter than they think, but they're not thinking, they're using scripture.

Anyway, evolutionary logic dictates that you're wrong, a fact you'll have to deal with at some point. It's logic, so it needs no sources, just studying the statement itself will lead you to my conclusion, and if you haven't arrived there, as you haven't, you just haven't thought about it.

the women who are inclined to not have children or to have fewer children died out in the natural selection of the gene pool through the not having of any kids. As a result, their impact on the genetic lineage of humanity is zero

Sorry, but thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64532&mid=11401
22#1140122


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 9:46 AM

THG


Caleb Wallace, Anti-Mask 'Freedom Rally' Organizer, Dies at 30 With COVID

Caleb Wallace, a Texas man who helped organize the "Freedom Rally" and other prominent protests against pandemic restrictions, has died from COVID-19. He was 30.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/caleb-wallace-anti-mask-freedom-rall
y-organizer-dies-at-30-with-covid/ar-AANQY7H?ocid=msedgntp


Deaths
646,258

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 9:47 AM

THG

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 9:54 AM

THG


Florida ICU Director 'Tired of Seeing People Die' Without Getting Vaccine

A Florida ICU Medical Director broke down in tears when he described the harrowing situation in the state as unvaccinated people flood hospitals in need of urgent care.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/florida-icu-director-tired-of
-seeing-people-die-without-getting-vaccine/ar-AANRWm9?ocid=msedgntp




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Sunday, August 29, 2021 9:56 AM

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THG

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:08 AM

THG



Focus people...

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:16 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


CDC @CDCgov tweeted:

As of August 26, 203 million people in the U.S. have received at least one dose of a #COVID19 vaccine and 172 million, or about 52%, are fully vaccinated. The COVID-19 vaccines authorized or approved in the U.S. are safe & effective.

Learn more:
http://bit.ly/CDTweeklyreview

4:00 PM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1431360903690215427

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If they're effective, than stop worrying.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they're effective, than stop worrying.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

The problem is that the people who catch Covid-19 will cost everybody now and in the future:

Largest Study of Lingering COVID-19 Effects Suggests a Looming Problem

https://time.com/6093164/long-covid-19-largest-study/

https://web.archive.org/web/20210828173911/https://time.com/6093164/lo
ng-covid-19-largest-study
/

Among those hospitalized for COVID-19, 68% reported at least one continued, COVID-19-related symptom six months after their first symptoms appeared. While this percentage decreased by the 12-month mark, it remained relatively high, at 49%. And overall, patients who had been hospitalized for COVID-19 self-reported being in poorer health and having lower quality of life — including mobility issues — compared to controls.

The most common symptom patients reported 12 months later was fatigue or muscle weakness; other issues included sleep disturbances, changes in taste and smell, dizziness, headache and shortness of breath. Certain symptoms were actually worse at the 12-month mark than they were earlier on in the study: the proportion of patients reporting breathing problems increased slightly, from 26% to 30%, from six months to a year following their first symptoms. The patients also filled out questionnaires about their mental health, and while 23% reported feeling anxious or depressed six months after their first symptoms appeared, 30% did so at a year.

The increase in the proportion of patients experiencing anxiety or depression is especially “worrying,” say the authors, and they speculate that in addition to the isolation, unemployment, and loss of physical health that could be fueling these conditions, the virus itself may be driving abnormal immune responses that could affect the delicate work of brain chemicals contributing to people’s mental states.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:39 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
CDC @CDCgov tweeted:

As of August 26, 203 million people in the U.S. have received at least one dose of a #COVID19 vaccine and 172 million, or about 52%, are fully vaccinated. The COVID-19 vaccines authorized or approved in the U.S. are safe & effective.

Learn more:
http://bit.ly/CDTweeklyreview

4:00 PM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1431360903690215427

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Says the CDC, a private corporation that hold the patent on the vaccine
Completely airtight logic there, Second.
Wait, don't they also hold the patent on the test and also on the virus itself?
And why do they hold a patent on the virus?
Oh yes, because they genetically engineered the virus.
There is actually no other way.


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Don't bother trying logic with Second.

He's allergic.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they're effective, than stop worrying.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

The problem is that the people who catch Covid-19 will cost everybody now and in the future:

Largest Study of Lingering COVID-19 Effects Suggests a Looming Problem

https://time.com/6093164/long-covid-19-largest-study/

https://web.archive.org/web/20210828173911/https://time.com/6093164/lo
ng-covid-19-largest-study
/

Among those hospitalized for COVID-19, 68% reported at least one continued, COVID-19-related symptom six months after their first symptoms appeared. While this percentage decreased by the 12-month mark, it remained relatively high, at 49%. And overall, patients who had been hospitalized for COVID-19 self-reported being in poorer health and having lower quality of life — including mobility issues — compared to controls.

The most common symptom patients reported 12 months later was fatigue or muscle weakness; other issues included sleep disturbances, changes in taste and smell, dizziness, headache and shortness of breath. Certain symptoms were actually worse at the 12-month mark than they were earlier on in the study: the proportion of patients reporting breathing problems increased slightly, from 26% to 30%, from six months to a year following their first symptoms. The patients also filled out questionnaires about their mental health, and while 23% reported feeling anxious or depressed six months after their first symptoms appeared, 30% did so at a year.

The increase in the proportion of patients experiencing anxiety or depression is especially “worrying,” say the authors, and they speculate that in addition to the isolation, unemployment, and loss of physical health that could be fueling these conditions, the virus itself may be driving abnormal immune responses that could affect the delicate work of brain chemicals contributing to people’s mental states.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



If they're effective, then stop worrying.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:


Says the CDC, a private corporation that hold the patent on the vaccine
Completely airtight logic there, Second.
Wait, don't they also hold the patent on the test and also on the virus itself?
And why do they hold a patent on the virus?
Oh yes, because they genetically engineered the virus.
There is actually no other way.


Are you sure that the CDC is a private corporation? Because it is NOT a corporation, and it can NOT make a profit. And, dreamtrove, even Stephen King would not change those hard facts to fit a fantasy/horror story-line because denial of hard facts ruins a story.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Preventi
on


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


"says wikipedia"

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Everyody knows the CDC is a government agency, SIX.
Even you.

There is a CDC FOUNDATION which is NOT the CDC, that is a nonprofit. The names are very similar. That's why people get confused.



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Sunday, August 29, 2021 10:59 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:


Says the CDC, a private corporation that hold the patent on the vaccine
Completely airtight logic there, Second.
Wait, don't they also hold the patent on the test and also on the virus itself?
And why do they hold a patent on the virus?
Oh yes, because they genetically engineered the virus.
There is actually no other way.


Are you sure that the CDC is a private corporation? Because it is NOT a corporation, and it can NOT make a profit. And, dreamtrove, even Stephen King would not change those hard facts to fit a fantasy/horror story-line because denial of hard facts ruins a story.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Preventi
on


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



The CDC was chartered as a Private Nonprofit Corporation.
here's why that matters. When the CDC was developing bioweapons with Chapel Hill, they filed to keep all of the information private, which they couldn't have done if they'd actually been chartered as a public trust.

It's not about money, it's about secrecy, even from its own government.

As an agency, the CDC definitely also classifies as a "captured agency" which is when a govt agency's board is staffed exclusively or by majority by members of the boards of companies or organizations in the industry it's designed to regulate. If you move from a board meeting at Moderna, a fake company, or Pfizer, to a board meeting at the NIAID or CDC you don't experience a change in the people you're talking to, only the room in which those same people will meet. Excuse me, the zoom.

Is Second a male or a female? there seems to be some confusion on this point.


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:08 AM

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SECOND: Are you sure that the CDC is a private corporation? Because it is NOT a corporation, and it can NOT make a profit. And, dreamtrove, even Stephen King would not change those hard facts to fit a fantasy/horror story-line because denial of hard facts ruins a story.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Preventi
on


DREAMTROVE:
The CDC was chartered as a Private Nonprofit Corporation.
here's why that matters. When the CDC was developing bioweapons with Chapel Hill, they filed to keep all of the information private, which they couldn't have done if they'd actually been chartered as a public trust.

It's not about money, it's about secrecy, even from its own government.

As an agency, the CDC definitely also classifies as a "captured agency" which is when a govt agency's board is staffed exclusively or by majority by members of the boards of companies or organizations in the industry it's designed to regulate. If you move from a board meeting at Moderna, a fake company, or Pfizer, to a board meeting at the NIAID or CDC you don't experience a change in the people you're talking to, only the room in which those same people will meet. Excuse me, the zoom.

Is Second a male or a female? there seems to be some confusion on this point.




DREAMTROVE


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Although the CDC Foundation was chartered by Congress, it is not a government agency nor is it a division of CDC. It is a private, nonprofit organization classified as a 501(c)(3) public charity.

https://www.cdc.gov/partners/partnering.html

The CDC FOUNDATION can accept gifts and partner with private entities (including other foundations). The CDC itself cannot.

You have an active imagination, DT.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:


The CDC was chartered as a Private Nonprofit Corporation.
here's why that matters. When the CDC was developing bioweapons with Chapel Hill, they filed to keep all of the information private, which they couldn't have done if they'd actually been chartered as a public trust.

It's not about money, it's about secrecy, even from its own government.

As an agency, the CDC definitely also classifies as a "captured agency" which is when a govt agency's board is staffed exclusively or by majority by members of the boards of companies or organizations in the industry it's designed to regulate. If you move from a board meeting at Moderna, a fake company, or Pfizer, to a board meeting at the NIAID or CDC you don't experience a change in the people you're talking to, only the room in which those same people will meet. Excuse me, the zoom.

Is Second a male or a female? there seems to be some confusion on this point.


Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?

From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/?page=1

MCWA stands for Malaria Control in War Areas, just so you know, dreamtrove.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:15 AM

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Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?

From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/



Says the guy who continually posts lies and defamation!

DT never had any credibility bc his imagination takes over his thinking. YOU ruined your credibility by constantly posting lies. Of the two, I would rather read DT than you. At least DT is sincere and opens up the possibility of new avenues of thought ... yanno, like PN. You, otoh, want to direct people into a hate-filled channel of lies.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:18 AM

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Everyody knows the CDC is a government agency, SIX.
Even you.

There is a CDC FOUNDATION which is NOT the CDC, that is a nonprofit. The names are very similar. That's why people get confused.



They're all whatever they fuck TPTB want them to be.

None of them are to be trusted.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:20 AM

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SECOND:
Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?

From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/



Says the guy who continually posts lies and defamation!

You had many opportunities over the years to prove you are not a Russian troll, or not a run-of-the-mill crank/nutjob, but you never went forward with your threats to sue me for defaming you. I suspect that is because you can't file the case from Russia in an American court without having to give a real identity beyond "SignyM".

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:26 AM

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Kiki's the one always threatening lawsuits.

I assume she's never gone through with it because everyone here is using a fake name and you can't defame somebody who doesn't have a link to their actual person and/or business.



You, on the other hand, are full of shit and it's in plain sight every time you make a post about anything.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:41 AM

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SECOND:
Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?

From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/

SIGNY: Says the guy who continually posts lies and defamation!

SECONDRATE: You had many opportunities over the years to prove you are not a Russian troll, or not a run-of-the-mill crank/nutjob, but you never went forward with your threats to sue me for defaming you. I suspect that is because you can't file the case from Russia in an American court without having to give a real identity beyond "SignyM".



If YOU don't know whether or not I'm a Russian troll, then your constantly calling me one is defamation. I shouldn't have to "prove" anything bc you decide to maliciously attack me. OTOH your PI wasn't as careful as you might like about not leaving evidence behind.

I'm not suing bc I have better things to do with my time and money. First of all, in my last court case as plaintiff, it was made very clear to me that lawsuits are limited by "no harm, no foul". One must assess damages, in monetary terms, in order to get a judgement.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:46 AM

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You, on the other hand, are full of shit and it's in plain sight every time you make a post about anything.

What is in plain sight is that I posted Firefly #31 and #32 in the last two days: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=20&tid=62603&mid=11402
14#1140214

Are you too superior to read Firefly?

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 12:18 PM

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what is this, a contest to see who has the shortest friends list?



still haven't cleared up whether is actually a female and whether 1kiki is signy's daughter or her mr. hyde side.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 12:24 PM

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what is this, a contest to see who has the shortest friends list?

still haven't cleared up whether is actually a female and whether 1kiki is signy's daughter or her mr. hyde side.

Remember this quote?
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I'm afraid if I'm impeaching Joe Biden it's over genociding the human race

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64434&mid=11402
55#1140255


The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?

First coronavirus vaccine shots given outside trials in U.S. -- December 14, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/14/first-covid-vaccines-
new-york
/

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 1:03 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



One by one all of SLOPPY'S Russian Troll™ slinging surrogates have bailed or been banned from the board, leaving SLOPPY to do the dirty work itself. I guess SLOPPY's surrogates didn't really trust it when it came to promises of lawyers. Leaving SLOPPY all by its lonesome, dangling in the breeze. So, when it comes to being defamed, I guess my lawsuit threats worked! I mean, look at the results.


And now SLOPPY has to carefully meter out those statements, trying to not build up too heavy of a history that might be called a pattern. Poor thing.


Anyway, I too have far better things to do with my time at the moment.


FWIW, If I were to interpret SLOPPY's current behavior, I'd say it was that of a sociopath who's lost the people he was previously manipulating, unable to run the situation like before because no one cares, and desperately trolling just to get some kind of response.

Tho I do see him probing DT looking for weaknesses - handles - that he can use.

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The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?



They weren't, but that's okay. Anyway, only if he mandates it. Otherwise it's Tony Fauci's fault, like most things


Edit: I see you posted some test run, but that's not a mandate
You can't try the president for something some citizen does, even if it's andrew cuomo


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Sunday, August 29, 2021 1:22 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One by one all of SLOPPY'S Russian Troll™


How do you get SLOPPY from SECOND?
Seems a little sloppy if you forgive me saying so
Or is this an oblique reference to some sockpuppet between TWO and SECOND that I missed? I remember SECOND so I must have encountered it in 2017. it's all a blur

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Leaving SLOPPY all by its lonesome, dangling in the breeze.

That would imply dude. just doesn't seem to have enough angry and ego for a dude. Maybe a eunuch. But probably a chick

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Tho I do see him probing DT looking for weaknesses - handles - that he can use.
No, that would be what you would be up to. Second is way too dumb for this kind of manipulation, and not the Sun Tzu Art of War kind of dumb, the eats rocks kind of dumb.

Now I will admit that she posts some nice artwork and comics, and if she had any part of creating it i'd have to reconsider the "eats rocks" part of the equation, but literally she argues for her own death. that's not a step above literally eating rocks.


And collecting dumb things Dreamtrove said is not ammunition. you're sitting in the minefield of dumb things Dreamtrove said, but any time you repost it, it'll be surrounded by dumb things Second said that you'll have to live with.

Instead of just continuing to assume I'm wrong, just listed to what I'm saying. This is the difference between a moron and a genius. Not specifically listening to me, but listening to other people.

I'm not a genius, but. I try to not be a moron, so I went through all of Sigkiki's takedowns of my bioweapon theory, and it's just kind of blaming the cake for the icings and not taking any serious potshots at the cake.

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Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?



They weren't, but that's okay. Anyway, only if he mandates it. Otherwise it's Tony Fauci's fault, like most things


Are the Covid-19 vaccines the same as genocide of humanity? Genocide is what you have been selling. I want to know if you really believe what you are writing? Or will you admit you are writing Stephen King inspired fantasy/horror fiction?

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 1:35 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
No, that would be what you would be up to. Second is way too dumb for this kind of manipulation, and not the Sun Tzu Art of War kind of dumb, the eats rocks kind of dumb.

Now I will admit that she posts some nice artwork and comics, and if she had any part of creating it i'd have to reconsider the "eats rocks" part of the equation, but literally she argues for her own death. that's not a step above literally eating rocks.

I created this banner, for one of 50 examples:


It is called "Imagine Your Face Here". Leaving the faces without details makes it easy for me to imagine myself as one of them. Or maybe it horrifies you. By the way: In my dreams, I'm closest to Jayne, but in the real world I'm closest to Badger, except about one foot taller and with no bowler hat.

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 1:39 PM

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Originally posted by second:

The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?



They weren't, but that's okay. Anyway, only if he mandates it. Otherwise it's Tony Fauci's fault, like most things

Quote:

Are the Covid-19 vaccines the same as genocide of humanity? Genocide is what you have been selling. I want to know if you really believe what you are writing? Or will you admit you are writing Stephen King inspired fantasy/horror fiction?


Well in Secondland people who don't get the vaccine are murderers. I think you just said that yesterday. So there has to be a theory there, which goes like this: the unvaccinated will all get the covid and spread it to the vaccinated because the vaccine doesn't work, or the vaccinated will have the covid that they injected themselves with and the unvaccinated will die because the vaccine doesn't work.

I don't actually sell genocide, I'm not a genocide merchant. Stephen King is a decent writer when he's not trying to write horror. He's pretty good actually. I genuinely enjoyed Shawshank Redemption. The problem with his horror is it's always a literal physical Satan which I find is the least scare concept of all. The Stand was awesome until it turned into Satan. I mean Spike. I mean Satan. It's always Satan.

What I believe is not important, Second, it's that I know stuff you don't, and I've been trying to tell you, but you endanger yourself by insisting on not listening.

There is no vaccine. There's a patented bioweapon that's been rebranded Vaccine™ :tm: The structure of this is to try to trick your body into producing a maximum number of covid spike proteins and then launch maximum attack against it.

The spike protein is a tiny alien with pieces of human glued to the outside, and every time the immune system attacks the alien, there's a chance it will learn to attack the human bits and make you less human and more rot zombie.

Every time you take a vaccine booster, you're increasing the chances of this.

It works this way because Fauci and company designed it this way because and Gates and company paid them to because they want to depopulate the planet.

They've been at this for 20 years. It's as I said, as the videos said, a matter of public record. It's not conspiracy theory. It's truth, the opposite of fact check.

BTW, I see what you did there. You took my comment that your covid fanfiction was fanfiction and you did the Hillary Clinton. "Anything someone says about you, you can say about them." doesn't really work that way

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yeah that one creeps me out. but it's a step above eating rocks, I'll grant

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 1:50 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Not trying to manipulate, DT, just trying to be helpful to your health situation, and posting the facts as I know them, like you are. Whether people agree with me or not, I'll keep calling things exactly like I see them, the same way you do. We may disagree, but we call it like we see it. I appreciate you being upfront, the way Signy is upfront, the way Brenda is upfront. So I hope you can come to a non-paranoid place where you can appreciate people being upfront with you as well.


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Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The spike protein is a tiny alien with pieces of human glued to the outside, and every time the immune system attacks the alien, there's a chance it will learn to attack the human bits and make you less human and more rot zombie.

Every time you take a vaccine booster, you're increasing the chances of this.

It works this way because Fauci and company designed it this way because and Gates and company paid them to because they want to depopulate the planet.

They've been at this for 20 years. It's as I said, as the videos said, a matter of public record. It's not conspiracy theory. It's truth, the opposite of fact check.

BTW, I see what you did there. You took my comment that your covid fanfiction was fanfiction and you did the Hillary Clinton. "Anything someone says about you, you can say about them." doesn't really work that way

Thanks for the clarification. I will patiently wait for your predicted "rot zombie" apocalypse as proof you are correct about the Covid-19 vaccines.



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Sunday, August 29, 2021 3:35 PM

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Not trying to manipulate, DT, just trying to be helpful to your health situation, and posting the facts as I know them, like you are. Whether people agree with me or not, I'll keep calling things exactly like I see them, the same way you do. We may disagree, but we call it like we see it. I appreciate you being upfront, the way Signy is upfront, the way Brenda is upfront. So I hope you can come to a non-paranoid place where you can appreciate people being upfront with you as well.



Thing is, I'm not paranoid at all. If I were paranoid, I wouldn't be in this mess. I'd be hiding from the carriers, be they the vaccinated or the unvaccinated depending on your evidence. I don't say beliefs, because I don't think there's a place for belief here. One person can be a good christian, another a good muslim, and they can both be completely sincere without either being wrong, and when the wiccan tells them they're wrong, she's also sincere and not wrong. But when it comes to covid carriers, one side is wrong, and all of us have to accept that it might be our own.

The evidence I've seen fits incredibly strongly with the scam bioweapon model, and the media behavior is exactly like the media behavior pushing every no more babies agenda for 50 years. it's abortion, feminism, gay pride, transgender, sex laws, IUDs, sterilizing psychopharmacology for kids, and now mandated injections of sterilizing bioweapon. that pattern fits everything I already know, and the media behavior is identical for all of these. spout the same extremely thin surface B^||$#!+ and then denounce everyone who sees through the lies as "conspiracy theorists" and then strawman those opponents by adding their own crazy people to them to add more B^||$#!+ to the truth to make it sound retarded. That's just a model they, the fifth international fascist corporate commies use. Globalists. It's what they do.

Globalism is just the imperialism of our generation. It's a world takeover plan like every other that came before it. Kill everyone, take their land. There's no "overpopulation problem" or people concerned about overpopulation running this, it's all a scam, kill everyone, take their land. Just like the indians, and slavery, and the crusades and colonialism. Just like Napoleon and WWI+II. It's all the same elite money controllers killing the peasants, taking their land. That's what's happening here.

If it weren't so, the media would be more skeptical. When there have been actual health problems in the world, the media does not jump up and say "we have to fix this?" they say "here's a controversy to debate and get viewers" and then we can have "here's a scam charity that can get all your sympathy dollars and never fix the problem"

The media just isn't a "here's a world problem let's fix it" sort of institution.

And the players are way too familiar. Seriously? Tony Fauci? He's been a fraud all my life, he's now a triple fraud. AIDS, the flu shot, and now this. And Bill Gates? He has a tech empire based on no actual code written by him, it's all stolen, or bought, and he's been flagged as a genocidal loon for decades because of his comments on his own work in africa being based on population control, and all the data backing up that that's the effect of him being there.

And the WHO has been a scam since its inception. It's another nazi inherited organization run by the rockefellers, and they're all scams.

And the WEF. You will own nothing and be happy? remember that one? WEF is just the scammier replacement for the IMF.

So this is a cast of characters I already trust less than Hitler <-- oh yes, I mean this, as a child of a holocaust survivor. I'm aware Hitler lied his ass off. but these guys have him beat on the lies/truth ratio.

Where does this take me? Look at all the data from both sides and see what makes sense

Initially, I'll grant, I fucked up a few times.

1) I thought maybe there was no novel coronavirus. I still think there basically isn't, but I underestimated the evil of the villain, which is the most common mistake conspiracy theorists do. (much more than trusting bogus sources, which they also do, and more than accepting crazy premises) But in this case, I hadn't accepted "they engineered and released a bioweapon" even though I knew in Asia that was the majority opinion (I don't need a poll for that, I run non-political forums full of thousands of asians and they've been screaming it since it started)

2) I didn't think that even if they made a bioweapon they'd inject people with it to spread a plague, I thought maybe the vax was a scam to get money, or population control of self selecting morons being injected with darwin award serum.

So, there's a bioweapon on the loose, definitely, and it's being carried by SOME of the vaccinated. Now the guy I think I got it from got a vaccine that had the dubious language "special vaccine for select populations" and lives in a trailer, so that's not a positive selection. They might have just injected him with covid. I think other than that, most people I've known to get this got it in the hospital


Anyway, I agree with you that there are people here who are completely objective. JFS strikes me as completely objective. Six is fairly objective but also opinionated, and Jaynestown I'm not sure on yet. There are a lot more that were here

But no one is putting forth a solid "the media god's are right and here's the ulterior trillion dollar cash motive of the conspiracy theorists"

I suspect this is because there isn't one

There's only a corrupt trillion dollar cash reward for carrying out the gigacaust


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Originally posted by second:
Thanks for the clarification. I will patiently wait for your predicted "rot zombie" apocalypse as proof you are correct about the Covid-19 vaccines.





This particular one is my favorite. Also yours? or if not, who did this one?

As far as verifying the rot zombie apocalypse, since I have the virus I have a vested interest in that not happening, but if it does, how will we know? The rot zombies will already be medical cucks, since they injected themselves, so they'll go to the hospital and oopsie

I suppose some kind of controlled experiment can be done, probably wouldn't even have to set it up, someone already has an unintentional one somewhere in the world

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Marc Bernier Becomes Third Anti-Vax Radio Host to Die of COVID-19

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/marc-bernier-third-anti-va
x-radio-host-die-covid.html


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Originally posted by second:
Marc Bernier Becomes Third Anti-Vax Radio Host to Die of COVID-19

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/marc-bernier-third-anti-va
x-radio-host-die-covid.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


I see. Pro-vax side is killing their political opponents now


Edit: and then using their deaths to push their pro-death agenda

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 7:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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Originally posted by second:
Marc Bernier Becomes Third Anti-Vax Radio Host to Die of COVID-19

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/marc-bernier-third-anti-va
x-radio-host-die-covid.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


I see. Pro-vax side is killing their political opponents now


Edit: and then using their deaths to push their pro-death agenda

I am so happy that you are kidding. You are being funnier than any Monty Python skit.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 29, 2021 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by second:

[Something intended to be demeaning]


When I'm wrong, I will shrug and say, I guess it was just a vaccine, but vaccines are pretty risky, and this one was untested, it was irresponsible to mandate it before safety testing could be done, it's a shame 6000 people died from it. (official number right now) and no more than that, because all my conspiracy theories about this one were wrong.

When you're wrong, WTF will you do? Say "hey, i'm sorry I was a nazi collaborator to 1000 holocausts, but you know, stupid happens" ?

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