Elections; 2024 by THG

Senate: 53R / 47D

House: 216R / 208D. 218 to win.

Popular vote is now 74,696,256 for Trump, 70,967,637 for Harris.

TOTAL VOTES COUNTED: 145,663,893

TRUMP LEAD (POPULAR VOTE): 3,728,619

What remains to be counted?

California: 34% [11,807,430 counted out of 17.9 Million / 6.1 Million remain]
Alaska: 23% [245,026 counted out of 335,000 / 90,000 remain]
Maryland: 14% [2,634,574 counted out of 3,025,000 / 390,000 remain]
Arizona: 13% [2,965,288 counted out of 3.4 Million / 435,000 remain]
Oregon: 13% [2,016,501 counted out of 2.3 Million / 300,000 remain]
Utah: 12% [1,291,611 counted out of 1.45 Million / 160,000 remain]
Washington: 9% [3,459,180 counted out of 3.8 Million / 350,000 remain]
Colorado: 6% [3,027,990 counted out of 3.22 Million / 200,000 remain]
New Jersey: 5% [4,043,152 counted out of 4.25 Million / 200,000 remain]
New York: 3% [7,796,688 counted out of 8 Million / 200,000 remain]
Illinois: 2% [5,284,812 counted out of 5.39 Million / 100,000 remain]

These are all incidental and won't add much to the counts...

District of Columbia: 7%
Nevada: 4%
New Hampshire: 2%
Nebraska: 2%
Mississippi: 2%
Connecticut: 2%

TOTAL UNCOUNTED VOTES (ROUGH): 8.525 Million

Add that to the existing 145,663,893 and we're at 154.19 Million.

The total vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.

I don't want to hear one more fucking thing from any of the idiots about how there were 15 Million missing votes this year.

Now it looks like just shy of 1.5 Million votes less than 2020, or less than 10% what the YouTube idiots have been claiming the last few days.

I'm sure we're now going to have low-info voters on the right screaming that the Democrats were stuffing ballots to get the vote count up last minute or some such nonsense, because they've been lied to all week about the vote count.

No morons. Democrats don't cheat if there is nothing to gain from the cheating. You were just mislead by idiots and/or lied to all week.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 1:51 PM

Now I've taken the remaining uncounted vote share by state and used the rough percentages to project who those votes are going toward. You'll notice that these numbers don't add up to 100%, and that makes sense because there are other people on the ballot besides Trump and Harris. I feel with my rounding I've probably been overgenerous with the votes I'm giving Harris just to be on the safe side.

California: 34% [6.1 Million remain] (Trump: 2,379,000 / Harris: 3,599,000)
Alaska: 23% [90,000 remain] (Trump: 49,500 / Harris: 36,900)
Maryland: 14% [390,000 remain] (Trump: 140,400/ Harris: 241,800)
Arizona: 13% [435,000 remain] (Trump: 226,200 / Harris: 200,100)
Oregon: 13% [300,000 remain] (Trump: 123,000 / Harris: 168,000)
Utah: 12% [160,000 remain] (Trump: 94,400 / Harris: 60,800)
Washington: 9% [350,000 remain] (Trump: 136,500 / Harris: 203,000)
Colorado: 6% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 86,000 / Harris: 108,000)
New Jersey: 5% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 92,000 / Harris: 104,000)
New York: 3% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 84,000 / Harris: 112,000)
Illinois: 2% [100,000 remain] (Trump: 45,000 / Harris: 54,000)

Total UNCOUNTED votes: TRUMP: 3,426,000 / HARRIS: 4,887,600

Add these to the votes we already have counted and it looks like this:

TRUMP: 78.125 Million / HARRIS: 75.855 Million

If close to the truth, which I'm sure it is, this means that Trump wins the Popular Vote by well over 2 Million votes. My count here is 2.27 Million is Trump's surplus.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 2:10 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

“As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”
—H. L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mencken-white-house-quote/ explains how that quote has been embellished.

The full quote:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 2:14 PM

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As democracy is perfected

That's your mistake right there.

Democrats destroy Democracy. The march toward "Progress" is a march toward losing America.

We are DONE with you.

You'd better fix your fucking party or they're not going to get back in office for a very, very long time. Especially not after you start breaking apart because nobody in your party even agrees with each other on anything.

I don't blame Democrats for not having an idea why they failed so hard. There's about a million reasons that they need to add up. But they're not going to figure any of that out before they finish their grieving process and move into the acceptance stage that America hates Democrats.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 2:16 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Liberals had nine years to decipher Mr. Trump’s appeal — and they failed. The Democrats are a party of college graduates, as the whole world understands by now, of PhD's and genius-grant winners and the best consultants money can buy. Mr. Trump is a con man straight out of Mark Twain; he will say anything, promise anything, do nothing. But his movement baffled the party of education and innovation. Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.

I have been writing about these things for 20 years, and I have begun to doubt that any combination of financial disaster or electoral chastisement will ever turn on the lightbulb for the liberals. I fear that ’90s-style centrism will march on, by a sociological force of its own, until the parties have entirely switched their social positions and the world is given over to Trumpism.

Can anything reverse it? Only a resolute determination by the Democratic Party to rededicate itself to the majoritarian vision of old: a Great Society of broad, inclusive prosperity. This means universal health care and a higher minimum wage. It means robust financial regulation and antitrust enforcement. It means unions and a welfare state and higher taxes on billionaires, even the cool ones. It means, above all, liberalism as a social movement, as a coming-together of ordinary people — not a series of top-down reforms by well-meaning professionals.

That seems a long way away today. But the alternative is — what? To blame the voters? To scold the world for failing to see how noble we are? No. It will take the opposite sentiment — solidarity — to turn the world right-side up again.

Thomas Frank

Mr. Frank is the author of “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” among other books.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/09/the-elites-had-it-coming/

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 2:20 PM

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Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.

Fuck you, Frank.

Brilliance is vastly overrated.

These people are fucking clowns just like the rest of us. Nobody respects their piece of paper they got from their Ivy League brainwashing chambers anymore.

They all did what Allan Lichtman did. Distorted facts and stats to give them their desired outcome. They drank their own Kool-Aid for way too long.

A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.

This election was a referendum on college education in the 21st century.

If you aren't a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer or a politician, you wasted your time and money on college.

You are just a stupid person with a piece of paper to hang on the wall and ton of student debt.

And now, because your college brainwashing is running in overdrive, you are very, very depressed on top of it.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by second:
As democracy is perfected

That's your mistake right there.

Democrats destroy Democracy. The march toward "Progress" is a march toward losing America.

We are DONE with you.

You'd better fix your fucking party or they're not going to get back in office for a very, very long time. Especially not after you start breaking apart because nobody in your party even agrees with each other on anything.

I don't blame Democrats for not having an idea why they failed so hard. There's about a million reasons that they need to add up. But they're not going to figure any of that out before they finish their grieving process and move into the acceptance stage that America hates Democrats.

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From Trump’s victory, a simple, inescapable message: many people despise the left

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/10/donald-trump-the
-left-social-media-rightwing-propaganda-progressives-woke

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There is no need to pick only a few of the many explanations of Donald Trump’s political comeback. Most of the endless reasons we have heard over the past five days ring true: inflation, incumbency, a flimsy Democratic campaign, white Americans’ seemingly eternal issues with race, and what one New York Times essayist recently called “a regressive idea of masculinity in which power over women is a birthright”. But there is another story that has so far been rather more overlooked, to do with how politics now works, and who voters think of when they enter the polling booth.

Its most vivid element is about the left, and one inescapable fact: that a lot of people simply do not like us. In the UK, that is part of the reason why Brexit happened, why Nigel Farage is back, and why our new Labour government feels so flimsy and fragile. In the US, it goes some way to explaining why more than 75 million voters just rejected the supposedly progressive option, and chose a convicted criminal and unabashed insurrectionist to oversee their lives.

This dude is a "progressive" looney tune for sure, but outside of rare moments of lucidity and warnings to Democrats before the election out of Bill Maher, he's the first person from the Left that I've seen that even comes close to hitting the nail on the head.

Careful there, John. You keep going down that little rabbit hole that you found you might just surface one day as a Trump supporter yourself.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 4:11 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Trump Takes AZ, Completes Sweep Of All Swing States; CNN Says Victory Was So Massive He "Broke History"

Sunday, Nov 10, 2024 - 05:45 AM

President-elect Donald Trump has won Arizona, completing a sweep of all seven battleground in the 2024 election.

. . .
CNN’s data analyst Harry Enten did a deep dive into the gains president Trump made with specific demographics in the election, highlighting how crushing they were for Democrats.

The numbers are truly astounding, and incredibly bad for the party of ‘joy.’

Enten pointed out that Trump made the greatest improvements over a previous presidential election performance from the same party since 1992.

“When was the last time a party gained in so many different places?” Enten asked, explaining that “You have to go all the way to back to 1992 when Bill Clinton improved on Michael Dukakis’ performance in 49 states, plus the District of Columbia.”

“Donald Trump’s performance on Tuesday was the best for a Republican presidential candidate in exit poll history,” Enten further urged, adding “He literally goes all the way back through history and breaks history.”

Enten pointed to how Trump improved his party’s election performance in 49 states and Washington, D.C. over the 2020 election, with Washington state the single one where he didn’t do better.

“You know, I think the breadth of the improvement that Donald Trump had – Holy Toledo!” Enten declared.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 4:26 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.

If you were as prescience as claimed, you would have made a fortune betting on Trump:

The Trump-Whim Economy Is Here

Expectations of who will gain, and who will lose, from the president-elect’s second term are already moving markets.

By James Surowiecki | November 10, 2024, 8 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/wall-street-trump-wh
im-economy/680605/

Donald Trump is a crypto bro who’s going to cut taxes and regulations, loves big banks and corporate mergers, doesn’t care about deficits, loves oil and hates wind and solar, and might actually let RFK Jr. do some kooky health stuff. That, roughly speaking, is the picture of Trump that you get when you look at how markets reacted this week to his reelection as president of the United States. In other words, the markets are saying that he’s pretty much who many of us thought he was.

The immediately obvious conclusion to draw from the fact that the stock market spiked on news of Trump’s win—with all three major indexes hitting record highs—is that traders think he’s going to be very good for business. But traders were not simply buying stocks across the board; they were pouring money into assets they think will benefit from the next Trump presidency, while punishing those they think will be hurt by it.

The sheer number of sectors—and individual stocks—that traders seem to believe will be affected by Trump winning is striking. It reflects Trump’s stated intention and willingness to use executive power in an unfettered way. So what we’re seeing is the traders scrambling to try to read Trump’s mind—because they need to figure out how his whims might shape the fate of multibillion-dollar companies.

Some version of this market response happens after every election: Government policy has a big impact on business outcomes, and traders’ job is to anticipate that impact on their holdings. It’s also worth remembering that the stock market rose sharply in 2020 after Joe Biden’s victory looked assured, so some of this week’s rise is probably the result of traders’ relief that we’re not headed for months of legal challenges and conflict over who won. But going by what he has said over the course of the campaign, Trump has very ambitious plans.

Most starkly, he has promised to impose across-the-board tariffs on almost all imported goods, and 60 percent tariffs on Chinese imported goods in particular, and to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. Much of this Trump can direct on his own account, without seeking congressional approval.

The stock market is therefore working overtime to parse his various campaign promises: which it should take seriously and which it can ignore. For instance, one promise that traders seem to be comfortable ignoring is Trump’s vow to let Elon Musk slash trillions of dollars in federal spending. (Musk has claimed, improbably, that he can cut “at least $2 trillion,” mainly by getting rid of government waste.) If traders actually believed that was going to happen, the market would have sold off steeply, because government budget cuts of such magnitude would send the economy into a deep recession.

Instead, the market believes Trump is going to do the opposite: Far from embracing austerity, Trump is likely to cut taxes and increase spending, pouring more money into the economy. That would increase the risk of inflation—ironically, given the fact that Trump won in large part because voters were angry with Biden and Kamala Harris over high prices—which is why, on the first day of trading after Trump’s election, interest rates on 30-year Treasury bonds rose by their biggest margin in more than two years. This is because, when the risk of inflation rises, bond investors demand higher interest rates to protect their position.

The real market action, though, was among individual assets, and the most obvious winners were companies in sectors that Trump plans to deregulate. Share prices in oil drillers and allied service companies, for instance, soared on the expectation that Trump will be a “Drill, baby, drill” president. The value of cryptocurrency assets and stocks likewise shot up, because Trump is expected to replace the current Securities Exchange Commission chair, Gary Gensler, with someone far more tolerant of crypto than Gensler has been, and because Trump’s general attitude toward financial regulation is, at best, lax. Given that Trump shilled for a memecoin himself during the election campaign, concluding that the crypto industry’s legal worries are mostly behind it seems like a good wager.

Oddly, though, Trump-themed memecoins themselves did quite badly, with the most popular Trump memecoin, which is literally called MAGA, falling by more than 50 percent this week, after initially spiking following Trump’s win. And his social-media company, the Trump Media & Technology Group, is also on pace to finish the week down, despite much anticipation that a Trump win would be good for the stock. Both of these sell-offs appear a classic example of traders buying the rumor and selling the news.

Financial stocks rose strongly, with companies such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley registering double-digit gains on Wednesday, presumably on the expectation that they, too, will be operating in a friendlier regulatory environment. Another intriguing sign was that shares of Discover, which is in the process of being acquired by Capital One, saw a 17 percent increase. That merger has yet to be approved by federal regulators, and it’s come under considerable scrutiny—including from Democratic members of Congress—for its arguably anticompetitive effects. The big spike in Discover’s stock price suggests that traders believe, almost certainly correctly, that for all of Vice President–elect J. D. Vance’s criticism of corporate consolidation, a Trump administration will be much friendlier to mergers and acquisitions than the Biden administration has been.

The stocks whose booms were the most ominous sign of what a Trump presidency has in store were those of Geo Group and CoreCivic, private-prison companies that already do a lot of business running migrant-detention facilities. Geo Group also administers a GPS-monitoring programs for asylum seekers who have been paroled into the country while waiting for their cases to be heard. If Trump expands facilities to detain people who cross the border and implements his plan for mass deportations, the demand for these companies’ services will rise sharply. Geo Group’s stock was up 42 percent on Wednesday, and CoreCivic’s rose 29 percent.

Much more at https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/wall-street-trump-wh
im-economy/680605/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 4:50 PM

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A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.
If you were as prescience as claimed, you would have made a fortune betting on Trump:

I've said many, many, many times that I don't gamble. I don't even play the stock market after I cashed out to buy a home free and clear.

I will never gamble again, and because of this I am one of the few people who can say they beat the house. (Both the casinos, and the stock market).

Hell... I beat the house, and I got a house out of it.

None of that detracts from the fact that I called the election perfectly and all of these college "educated" dummies were wrong, including your idol Allan Lichtman.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 4:55 PM

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Trump Takes AZ, Completes Sweep Of All Swing States; CNN Says Victory Was So Massive He "Broke History"

President-elect Donald Trump has won Arizona, completing a sweep of all seven battleground in the 2024 election.

Good lookin' out, Sigs.

I kinda forgot that the Leftwing shill sites hadn't already called AZ. Even Google's map showed that Trump won AZ for a while now. I stopped looking at CNN and MSNBC because it was just pathetic.

Well... That's officially all 7. Even the two I was slightly worried about from what I was seeing in the polls vs. prior election cycles.

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Enten pointed out that Trump made the greatest improvements over a previous presidential election performance from the same party since 1992.

“When was the last time a party gained in so many different places?” Enten asked, explaining that “You have to go all the way to back to 1992 when Bill Clinton improved on Michael Dukakis’ performance in 49 states, plus the District of Columbia.”

“Donald Trump’s performance on Tuesday was the best for a Republican presidential candidate in exit poll history,” Enten further urged, adding “He literally goes all the way back through history and breaks history.”

Enten pointed to how Trump improved his party’s election performance in 49 states and Washington, D.C. over the 2020 election, with Washington state the single one where he didn’t do better.

“You know, I think the breadth of the improvement that Donald Trump had – Holy Toledo!” Enten declared.

Holy Toledo, indeed.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 4:59 PM

It should come as no surprise to anybody that the reason we still don't know which way the House goes is largely due to California, and due in part to Arizona and Colorado.

Get your shit together, Democrats.

Your chronic cheating would probably fly under the radar if you didn't take so fucking long to get it done.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 5:04 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I've said many, many, many times that I don't gamble. I don't even play the stock market after I cashed out to buy a home free and clear.

I will never gamble again, and because of this I am one of the few people who can say they beat the house. (Both the casinos, and the stock market).

None of that detracts from the fact that I called the election perfectly and all of these college "educated" dummies were wrong.

If Trump is what you claim, then you prosper. If he is not, you don't. Since you are certain about Trump, you certainly should have invested in the future he has planned. If you don't trust Trump, you won't invest in his plans because that would be gambling on the spin of the roulette wheel.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I've said many, many, many times that I don't gamble. I don't even play the stock market after I cashed out to buy a home free and clear.

I will never gamble again, and because of this I am one of the few people who can say they beat the house. (Both the casinos, and the stock market).

None of that detracts from the fact that I called the election perfectly and all of these college "educated" dummies were wrong.
If Trump is what you claim, then you prosper. If he is not, you don't.

Yup and Yup.

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Since you are certain about Trump, you certainly should have invested in the future he has planned. If you don't trust Trump, you won't invest in his plans because that would be gambling on the spin of the roulette wheel.

I did invest in America's future. My vote is one of the 2.3 Million or so additional popular votes for Trump that are going to keep you dumb shits silent about the Electoral College for the next 4 years.

It's rather amusing that you think plopping down your life savings on a political candidate on some sportsbook smartphone app where 20% of the bet goes to China is equivalent to investing in America's future. I do hope that you didn't put too much down on Harris yourself.

All of that chronic mental gymnastics you play in your head 24/7/365 for well over a decade now must just be exhausting.

Second, Second, Second...

I think you need to reevaluate just about everything right now, don't you?

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 5:30 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I did invest in America's future. My vote is one of the 2.3 Million or so additional popular votes for Trump that are going to keep you dumb shits silent about the Electoral College for the next 4 years.

It's rather amusing that you think plopping down your life savings on a political candidate on some sportsbook smartphone app where 20% of the bet goes to China is equivalent to investing in America's future. I do hope that you didn't put too much down on Harris yourself.

All of that chronic mental gymnastics you play in your head 24/7/365 for well over a decade now must just be exhausting.

Second, Second, Second...

I think you need to reevaluate just about everything right now, don't you?

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You didn't "Invest in America". You don't work, don't have enough faith in the future to have children or even to stop smoking. You are being very much like Rush Limbaugh, who had no children, smoked himself to death while claiming tobacco doesn't cause cancer and greenhouse gases don't change the climate, and couldn't stop talking about his false belief system. Rush was a human zero, appreciated by other loudmouth zeroes.

And that article about Trump and business HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ON-LINE GAMBLING.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/wall-street-trump-wh
im-economy/680605/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I did invest in America's future. My vote is one of the 2.3 Million or so additional popular votes for Trump that are going to keep you dumb shits silent about the Electoral College for the next 4 years.

It's rather amusing that you think plopping down your life savings on a political candidate on some sportsbook smartphone app where 20% of the bet goes to China is equivalent to investing in America's future. I do hope that you didn't put too much down on Harris yourself.

All of that chronic mental gymnastics you play in your head 24/7/365 for well over a decade now must just be exhausting.

Second, Second, Second...

I think you need to reevaluate just about everything right now, don't you?

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You didn't "Invest in America". You don't work, don't have enough faith in the future to have children or even to stop smoking. You are being very much like Rush Limbaugh, who had no children, smoked himself to death while claiming tobacco doesn't cause cancer and greenhouse gases don't change the climate, and couldn't stop talking about his false belief system. Rush was a human zero, appreciated by other loudmouth zeroes.

More judgement from the Breeders today I see.

Maybe you should talk to your LGBTQIAC3POIA+ crowd or the Gen Z Cult of Greta Thunberg and see if they share your sentiments on this issue.

SPOILER ALERT: They don't.

We've already got 8 Billion idiots shitting up the planet everyday. The world didn't need 2 or 3 more from me. My carbon footprint is exponentially smaller than yours just because I never had kids, and those kids I never had never had any kids, and so on and so on and so on...

Ya dig?

P.S. Smoking absolutely causes cancer.

Also, I own property free and clear and pay my taxes. I feel zero guilt about not needing to be a wage slave until 65 years old like you did, and I have plenty of projects to keep me busy with all my free time.

How about you spend your time figuring out how to fix your party instead of walking around every day being a miserable prick and doing your best to make everyone else as miserable as you are?

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 9:52 PM

Republicans pick up another House seat. They are now +2. 217R to 208D. 218 to win.

POPULAR VOTE COUNT: 74,831,719 Trump (50.4%) / 71,237,715 Harris. (48.0%)

Total counted votes: 146,069,434

Trump's Popular Vote Lead: 3,594,004

California: 28% Remains
Maryland: 14% Remains
Utah: 14% Remains
Oregon: 13% Remains
Washington: 9% Remains
Washington D.C.: 7% Remains
New Jersey: 5% Remains
Colorado: 5% Remains
New York: 3% Remains
Nevada: 3% Remains
Illinois: 2% Remains
Maine: 2% Remains
New Hampshire: 2% Remains
Connecticut: 2% Remains
Nebraska: 2% Remains
Mississippi: 2% Remains

To note, Harris has now climbed to a 19.9% share of the Californian vote. Since I never did a deep dive into the state to see where existing votes have come from, I expected there to be some variance. I did go generous with my projections of the remaining votes for Harris, but it is possible that California has another swing or two for Harris that Trump can't counter. We'll have to see what happens there.

I probably will have to look deeper into California since the bulk of the remaining votes are coming from there.

Shame on me if Kamala ends up with a 30% lead over Trump in California in the end and I didn't do my research and know that ahead of time.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 10:39 PM

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It Was Always About Inflation

By Doug Henwood | Nov 8, 2024

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/trump-2024-election-inflation-economy

More than one in five voters, 22%, said inflation had caused them “severe hardship” over the last year; they went for Trump by 50 points.

More than half, 53%, said inflation had caused them “moderate hardship”; they went for Trump by 6 points.

A lucky quarter, 24% to be precise, said it caused them no hardship at all; they went for Harris by 57 points.

Trump won the proletariat. He carried those without a college degree, over half of all voters, by 14 points; Harris carried those with a bachelor’s or more by 13 points. Harris carried households with income over $100,000 by 5 points; Trump won those under by 4 points.

Simply put, Donald Trump owes his reelection to inflation and to the fact that the Biden administration did little to address the problem in a way that helped working-class families.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 10:50 PM

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It Was Always About Inflation

By Doug Henwood | Nov 8, 2024

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/trump-2024-election-inflation-economy

More than one in five voters, 22%, said inflation had caused them “severe hardship” over the last year; they went for Trump by 50 points.

More than half, 53%, said inflation had caused them “moderate hardship”; they went for Trump by 6 points.

A lucky quarter, 24% to be precise, said it caused them no hardship at all; they went for Harris by 57 points.

Trump won the proletariat. He carried those without a college degree, over half of all voters, by 14 points; Harris carried those with a bachelor’s or more by 13 points. Harris carried households with income over $100,000 by 5 points; Trump won those under by 4 points.

Simply put, Donald Trump owes his reelection to inflation and to the fact that the Biden administration did little to address the problem in a way that helped working-class families.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Wow. Gee....

I wonder why nobody ever mentioned inflation being a problem in the last 4 years.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 10:50 PM

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What big gaps have opened up between Democrats and Republicans?

1) Confidence in both science and medicine was roughly similar between Democrats and Republicans all the way through 2018. Then both plummeted among Republicans, almost certainly due to COVID-era Trumpian disinformation about masks, vaccines, the origin of the virus, and so forth.

2) Confidence in the press wasn't very different until the spread of Fox News in the early 2000s. For the next 16 years Republican trust in the press was about 20 points lower than Democrats'.

This became turbocharged after Trump took office and went on his "fake news" crusade. For the last few years Republican trust in the press has been 60 points lower than Democrats'.

https://jabberwocking.com/heres-whats-changed-politically-over-the-pas
t-few-years/

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 10:53 PM

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Wow. Gee....

I wonder why nobody ever mentioned inflation being a problem in the last 4 years.

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I have never found a Trumptard who understood that sellers set prices, not the President. Trumptards think the President sets price by magic and, therefore, they blame the President.

The same people who cannot understood that sellers have absolute control of the selling price, always raising the price to take the maximum, are the same people who cannot understand how to raise their own incomes. It is not surprising that people who are stupid about one thing are also stupid about a related thing.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Wow. Gee....

I wonder why nobody ever mentioned inflation being a problem in the last 4 years.

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I have never found a Trumptard who understood that sellers set prices, not the President. Trumptards think the President sets price by magic and, therefore, they blame the President.

The same people who cannot understood that sellers have absolute control of the selling price, always raising the price to take the maximum, are the same people who cannot understand how to raise their own incomes. It is not surprising that people who are stupid about one thing are also stupid about a related thing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

You are making false arguments of a 5th grader.

Go play with the kids on Twitter if you aren't willing to have an actual adult conversation about anything.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 3:42 AM

I've had a little time to think about this...

Let's say, for argument's sake, that 100% of the blame is on the sellers for maximizing profits, even to the point of hurting their own bottom line in the long run if it means good quarterly ratings.

What does that say for subsidies such as tax credits for Electronic Vehicles or new windows on your home?

Or what does it say of food stamps? Would they ever have been able to get away with raising the prices to what they are today if the poorest of the poor weren't able to afford any of it anymore without that safety net in place?

Would the doctors have ever been able to charge what they do if insurance didn't exist?

Raising the minimum wage is more of the same. So long as the poorest can afford the increase in price, whether it's from wage increase or government programs, the prices will be hiked for everyone.

But the real problem is that outside of the 1%, the rest of us have been falling into a slow sink where we're getting closer and closer to that bottom without really realizing it's happening.

I remember when Jose Canseco was the first pro athlete to get a $1 Million per year contract. I have ticket stubs saved from when my dad would take us to Cubs and Sox games for $3 and $5 bleacher seats. League minimum is now $200k more than the salary of the President of the United states and most folk can't really afford to take their family to a baseball game, let alone enjoy several in a year.

I'm not arguing against you that a company isn't going to seek out maximum profit wherever it can. I'm just saying that none of your solutions of the past or proposed for the future are going to help anybody precisely because those companies are just going to absorb that profit for themselves.

Come up with a real solution to the problem. I'm all ears.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 8:34 AM

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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems. It is pretty obvious why their lives are full of hardships, setbacks, and disappointments, but never obvious to them. Hint: Trumptards are not as capable as they think and they don't put enough effort into making themselves successful. How do they handle fears and failures? By denial. There is an article about the psychology of climate denial but it also explains much about other behaviors from climate deniers.
https://theconversation.com/time-to-freak-out-how-the-existential-terr
or-of-hurricanes-can-fuel-climate-change-denial-242390

It is perfectly reasonable to vote for Trump when you believe he can fix it for you but not at all reasonable when you know the hard fact that you must fix yourself, which includes controlling the panic, the fears, and random urges pushing you around.

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A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I've had a little time to think about this...

Let's say, for argument's sake, that 100% of the blame is on the sellers for maximizing profits, even to the point of hurting their own bottom line in the long run if it means good quarterly ratings.

What does that say for subsidies such as tax credits for Electronic Vehicles or new windows on your home?

Or what does it say of food stamps? Would they ever have been able to get away with raising the prices to what they are today if the poorest of the poor weren't able to afford any of it anymore without that safety net in place?

Would the doctors have ever been able to charge what they do if insurance didn't exist?

Raising the minimum wage is more of the same. So long as the poorest can afford the increase in price, whether it's from wage increase or government programs, the prices will be hiked for everyone.

But the real problem is that outside of the 1%, the rest of us have been falling into a slow sink where we're getting closer and closer to that bottom without really realizing it's happening.

I remember when Jose Canseco was the first pro athlete to get a $1 Million per year contract. I have ticket stubs saved from when my dad would take us to Cubs and Sox games for $3 and $5 bleacher seats. League minimum is now $200k more than the salary of the President of the United states and most folk can't really afford to take their family to a baseball game, let alone enjoy several in a year.

I'm not arguing against you that a company isn't going to seek out maximum profit wherever it can. I'm just saying that none of your solutions of the past or proposed for the future are going to help anybody precisely because those companies are just going to absorb that profit for themselves.

Come up with a real solution to the problem. I'm all ears.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 8:43 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems.

Translation: I was wrong but I'm too chickenshit to admit it.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 1:58 PM

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Quote:
SECOND
I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems.

Translation: I was wrong but I'm too chickenshit to admit it.

Trumptards get sued (see Trump), charged with felonies (see Trump), fired from jobs (Trump, again) because their brains are broken. Nothing short of extensive psychological therapy or brain surgery (or a bullet in the head) will improve their behavior.

I Study Guys Like Trump. There’s a Reason They Keep Winning.

By Ben Rhodes | Nov. 8, 2024

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/opinion/republicans-democrats-trump
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Ben Rhodes was deputy national security adviser under President Barack Obama and author of “After the Fall: The Rise of Authoritarianism in the World We Made.” Free download from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=Ben+Rhodes

In December 2019, I traveled to Hong Kong, where a heavy unease hung in the air. For months, young people had taken to the streets to protest the encroachment of the Chinese Communist Party on what was supposed to be a self-governing, democratic system. On walls they had scrawled: “Save Hong Kong! If we burn you burn with us!” All the protesters I spoke to knew their movement would fail; it was a last assertion of democratic identity before it was extinguished by a new order that saw democracy as the enemy within.

I met with a government official preparing to resign and told him I was writing a book about the rise of authoritarian nationalism. “The nationalism in the U.S. and Europe is somewhat different,” he told me. “Yours started with the financial crisis in 2008. That’s when liberalism started to lose its appeal, when people saw this wasn’t working. The narrative of liberalism and democracy collapsed. This spilled over into China, too. This is when China started to think — should we really follow a Western model?” We were sitting in a hotel lounge, the invisible forces he described surrounding us: capitalism, but not democracy; cultural elites cloistered away from the working class. “The nationalist movements in East and West were both a response to the collapse of the Western model,” he added.

Everything I’d experienced told me he was right. Eight years serving in the Obama White House after the financial crisis felt like swimming upstream, against the currents of global politics. A radicalized Republican Party rejected liberal democracy at home, mirroring far-right leaders like Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary who spoke about installing “illiberal democracy” (a polite term for “blood and soil” nationalism) across Europe. In Russia, Vladimir Putin set out to undermine — if not dismantle — the liberal order helmed by the United States. In China, Xi Jinping began to shift Beijing’s strategy from rising within that order to building a separate one, drained of democratic values. Barack Obama’s political skills and cultural appeal allowed him to navigate those currents, but they didn’t always transfer to other Democrats.

Donald Trump’s first victory challenged my liberal assumptions about the inevitability of a certain kind of progress: “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” For eight years outside of government, I have talked to opposition figures around the world and heard versions of the same story everywhere. After the Cold War, globalization chipped away at people’s sense of security and identity.

In the West, neoliberalism — that blend of free trade, deregulation and deference to financial markets — hollowed out communities while enriching a global oligarchy. Meanwhile, a homogenized and often crass popular culture eroded traditional national and religious identities. After 9/11, the war on terror was embraced by autocrats such as Mr. Putin, who used it as a frame to justify power grabs while forever wars fueled mass migration. The financial crisis came through like a hurricane, wrecking the lives of people already struggling to get by while the rich profited on the back end. Then social media’s explosion offered a vehicle to spread grievance and conspiracy theories, allowing populist leaders to radicalize their followers with the precision of an algorithm.

The playbook for transforming a democracy into a soft autocracy was clear: Win power with a populist message against elites. Redraw parliamentary districts. Change voting laws. Harass civil society. Pack courts with judges willing to support power grabs. Enrich cronies through corruption. Buy up newspapers and television stations and turn them into right-wing propaganda. Use social media to energize supporters. Wrap it up in an Us versus Them message: Us, the “real” Russians or Hungarians or Americans, against a rotating cast of Them: the migrants, the Muslims, the liberals, the gays, George Soros and on and on.

As president, Joe Biden embraced protectionism, organized labor and industrial policy, and his administration made investments in hollowed-out communities through executive orders and legislation. Democrats relentlessly communicated the threat Mr. Trump posed to democracy, with the removal of abortion rights as proof. When they fought a mediocre collection of Republican candidates to a draw in the 2022 midterm elections, many in the party — including Mr. Biden — drew the lesson that this approach was working.

Yet now Mr. Trump has decisively won back the presidency. I would never claim to have all the answers about what went wrong, but I do worry that Democrats walked into the trap of defending the very institutions — the “establishment” — that most Americans distrust. As a party interested in competent technocracy, we lost touch with the anger people feel at government. As a party that prizes data, we seized on indicators of growth and job creation as proof that the economy was booming, even though people felt crushed by rising costs. As a party motivated by social justice, we let revulsion at white Christian nationalism bait us into identity politics on their terms — whether it was debates about transgender athletes, the busing of migrants to cities, or shaming racist MAGA personalities who can’t be shamed. As a party committed to American leadership of a “rules-based international order,” we defended a national security enterprise that has failed repeatedly in the 21st century, and made ourselves hypocrites through unconditional military support for Israel’s bombardment of civilians in Gaza.

Democrats told true stories about Mr. Trump’s unfitness, about the legislative achievements of the Biden-Harris administration, about bodily autonomy for women. But when talking about middle-class economics, it was often in the familiar poll-tested language of the consultant class.

As a former speechwriter, I am sympathetic to the challenge of weaving these threads together. But for all his many strengths, over the last four years, Mr. Biden — in part because of his age, in part because of social media — could not fill that intangible presidential role of narrating what was happening in our nation and world. Democratic leaders in Congress tended to be old hands who’d spent decades in Washington, making them imperfect messengers for an electorate demanding change. It is no coincidence that two outsiders as different as Mr. Obama and Mr. Trump have dominated politics for 20 years.

Kamala Harris brought new energy and remarkable discipline to the campaign’s final months, revitalizing the collaborative joy essential to Democratic politics. But her ties to an unpopular incumbent — and a global post-pandemic backlash against any incumbent — held her back. Democrats understandably have a hard time fathoming why Americans would put our democracy at risk, but we miss the reality that our democracy is part of what angers them. Many voters have come to associate democracy with globalization, corruption, financial capitalism, migration, forever wars and elites (like me) who talk about it as an end in itself rather than a means to redressing inequality, reining in capitalist systems that are rigged, responding to global conflict and fostering a sense of shared national identity.

Yes, this is unfair: Republican policies from Ronald Reagan to George W. Bush did far more than Democrats to create this mess. But Mr. Trump’s crusade against the past elites of his own party — from the Bush family to Mitch McConnell — credentialed him with a public hungry for accountability, while the Harris campaign’s embrace of Dick Cheney conveyed the opposite message.

Donald Trump has won the presidency, but I don’t believe he will deliver on his promises. Like other self-interested autocrats, his remedies are designed to exploit problems instead of solving them, and he’s surrounded by oligarchs who want to loot the system instead of reforming it. Mass deportation and tariffs are recipes for inflation. Tax cuts and deregulation will exacerbate inequality. America First impulses will fuel global conflict, technological disruption and climate conflagration. Mr. Trump is the new establishment in this country and globally, and we should emphasize that instead of painting him as an outlier or interloper.

Out of the wreckage of this election, Democrats must reject the impulse to simply be a resistance that condemns whatever outrageous thing Mr. Trump says. While confronting Mr. Trump when we must, we must also focus on ourselves — what we stand for, and how we tell our story. That means acknowledging — as my Hong Kong interlocutor said — that “the narrative of liberalism and democracy collapsed.” Instead of defending a system that has been rejected, we need to articulate an alternative vision for what kind of democracy comes next.

We should merge our commitment to the moral, social and demographic necessity of an inclusive America with a populist critique of the system that Mr. Trump now runs; a focus more on reform than just redistribution. We must reform the corruption endemic to American capitalism, corporate malfeasance, profiteering in politics, unregulated technologies transforming our lives, an immigration system broken by Washington, the cabal of autocrats pushing the world to the brink of war and climate catastrophe.

After he lost an election in 2002, Mr. Orban spent years holding “civic circles” around Hungary — grass-roots meetings, often around churches, which built an agenda and sense of belonging that propelled him back into power. In their own way, the next generation of Democratic leaders should fan out across the country. Learn from mayors innovating at the local level. Listen to communities that feel alienated. Find places where multiracial democracy is working better than it is in the rest of the country. Tell those stories when pitching policies. Foster a sense of belonging to something bigger, so democracy doesn’t feel like the pablum of a ruling elite, but rather the remedy for fixing what is broken in Washington and our body politic.

We are not living in Hong Kong, where a democratic movement could be extinguished. A midterm election looms. Mr. Trump is term-limited. The next four years will be trying and dangerous — especially for the more vulnerable among us. But if we understand the global trends that got us here, we can swing the political pendulum back in our direction and seize that moment with a new vision of liberalism and democracy.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 2:11 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I guess we're not Trumptards, not having been sued or fired.

*****

In part, a ridiculous rewrite of history.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 3:13 PM

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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems.

Translation: I was wrong but I'm too chickenshit to admit it.

True.

Well... at least he had enough testosterone and/or self-delusion to stay on the website.

Ted's only presence here since they started counting the votes Tuesday night was to tell Brenda that everyone who voted for Trump is stupid and evil in the tag section.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 3:34 PM

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What do tax cuts on the rich accomplish? Can you guess?

By Kevin Drum | Nov 11, 2024

https://jabberwocking.com/what-do-tax-cuts-on-the-rich-accomplish-can-
you-guess/

"The economic consequences of major tax cuts for the rich" is a research study that came out a few years ago. But I missed it then and it's never too late to catch up. The authors set out to examine all instances of major tax reductions on the rich in 18 OECD countries between 1965 and 2015 and identify the results.

I don't want to keep you in suspense, so here's the impact of the tax cuts on economic growth:

There was no noticeable affect on growth. Or on unemployment. So what did the tax cuts accomplish?

Surprise! Lower taxes on the rich make the rich richer. And that's about it. Here it is in more detail:

We find that major tax cuts for the rich push up income inequality, as measured by the top 1% share of pre-tax national income. The size of the effect is substantial: on average, each major tax cut results in a rise of over 0.7 percentage points in top 1% share of pre-tax national income.

On the income inequality side, the results do not closely align with the theory that the rich have greater incentives to work and invest when their taxes are cut, given that we do not find any statistically significant effects on growth, unemployment or investment from cutting taxes on the rich. Given our measure of income inequality includes both realized capital gains and labor income, it is also unlikely the results are being driven by tax avoidance, because a significant part of avoidance takes the form of shifting income into capital (Piketty et al., 2014). Rather, our results are most consistent with Piketty et al.’s argument that lower taxes on top incomes induce the rich to bargain more aggressively to increase their own rewards, to the direct detriment of those lower down the income distribution.

There you have it. Tax cuts on the rich just make them even greedier and more predatory. And we've got another one coming thanks to Donald Trump's huge success with working class voters. As H.L. Mencken put it, "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." America's common people are about to learn that lesson anew.

(In Truth, the common folk learn nothing and understand nothing, but that would be too depressing for Democrats who believe the voters they are attempting to woo could never be that stupid.)

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Monday, November 11, 2024 3:41 PM

I'm not even going to bother updating vote counts by state today. Everybody's back to work after the weekend and they've still only counted about half a million votes today.

Popular Vote Count: 74,847,435 for Trump (50.4%) / 71,259,635 for Harris (48.0%)

TOTAL VOTES: 146,107,070

Trump's lead: 3,587,800

What's left to count?

California: 28%
Alaska: 20%
Utah: 14%
Maryland: 14%
Oregon: 13%
Washington: 9%
Washington D.C.: 7%
Colorado: 5%
New Jersey: 5%
Nevada: 4%
Illinois: 2%
Mississippi: 2%
Nebraska: 2%
New Hampshire: 2%
Connecticut: 2%

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Monday, November 11, 2024 3:43 PM

Nobody wants to hear any of Kevin Drum's bullshit today or ever again.

If Democrats were in any way capable of doing anything that Kevin says they are, they wouldn't have lost this election in a landslide.

America hates the Democrat Party.

Fix it, or don't ever win an election again.

Meanwhile, shut the fuck up. We're done hearing from any of you until you have something important to say.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 4:43 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SECOND must really hate paying taxes when he thinks nobody else is. But since it's his only claim to being a ~~human being~~ Pharisee, I guess he'll just have to keep on.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 5:47 PM

I do not believe that the Democrats thought they would have to steal an election in Alaska to keep the house, so I'm pretty confident the Republicans will be running the House as well after AK's District 1 is finally called, if they didn't already get 218 somewhere else.

There are still quite a few tight races in California, with Districts 13, 41 and 45 being the most likely to go Republican. A D6 pickup is still possible in Arizona, although Maine District 2 looks very unlikely for Republicans at this point.

I'm not going to predict the final count, but I will predict that Republicans should at least get the house without any problems. Possibly not by a safe margin with 2 or 3 additional above 218 for a buffer should somebody retire. Or even worse, a NeoCon Bushite flips Democrat.

Republicans will need to keep this in mind and make sure they dump some money into a real ground game whenever this scenario pops up. Republicans have a horrible historical turnout for special elections and Democrats dominate them.

They'd also better make a plan to get out the vote in the Midterms as well. Democrats killed Republicans on the ground game in the 2022 Midterms.

Although a large part of that was because the idiot formerly running the RNC was in cahoots with the Never-Trump NeoCons. They were purposefully losing races with Trump friendly picks, while pouring money into races that didn't matter. At least this should not happen again in 2026.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 12:50 AM

Trump just crossed 75 Million votes a little while ago. His vote share is down to 50.3% now, with Harris at 48.1%. 76% of California is reported, and Harris now has a 20.8% lead on Trump in the state.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:08 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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SECOND must really hate paying taxes when he thinks nobody else is. But since it's his only claim to being a ~~human being~~ Pharisee, I guess he'll just have to keep on.

Look, bonehead Signym, the W-2 keeps employees mostly honest since they know the IRS knows their income. But the employer of those employees can make the corporation's income whatever he wants. That is how Trump cheats on his income tax, by sending in false reports. He has even been caught doing that, but in reverse, by claiming to be absurdly richer than he actually was.

Trump’s fraudulent financial statements were key to getting loans, former bank official says
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/donald-trumps-fraudulent-financi
al-statements-were-key-to-getting-loans-former-bank-official-says

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:09 AM

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Why Trump Won
(Democrats Need To Be As Fake As Trump if they want to win. Being truthful, honest, realistic and thoughtful brings defeat.)

https://jabberwocking.com/jack-herrera-on-latinos-and-the-democratic-p
arty/

There was nothing Joe Biden could do about inflation, for example, so he decided his best bet was to stay quiet about it. But that's not what people want to hear. They want to hear that you're mad as hell and by God you're going to fight it.

Or take NAFTA. Trump has no intention of repealing it. Hell, it was passed by Republicans in 1993 and Trump signed an expansion of NAFTA when he was in office. But that never stopped him from yelling loudly about how unfair it was and promising to do something about it.

Here's how the power of rhetoric works:

What Trump Says: NAFTA is the worst deal ever.
What They Hear: I'll protect American workers from Mexicans.

What Trump Says: We'll deport 20 million illegal immigrants.
What They Hear: I'll get rid of the cheap labor that's stealing your jobs.

What Trump Says: We'll cut taxes.
What They Hear: I'll cut your taxes.

What Trump Says: Inflation is killing us.
What They Hear: I'll never let inflation happen again.

What Trump Says: Tariffs as far as the eye can see.
What They Hear: I'll punish China for taking away our manufacturing jobs.

(Pay attention! This is where being truthful, honest, realistic, and thoughtful brings defeat.)

Now, the truth is that

(a) although a modest number of factory workers lost their jobs under NAFTA, it was responsible for almost no net job losses,

(b) illegal immigrants don't compete for the same jobs as native workers,

(c) Republican tax cuts focus almost exclusively on corporations and the rich,

(d) Trump has no influence over inflation,

(e) China really did take away a lot of manufacturing jobs in the aughts. But tariffs won't bring them back.

But who cares about the truth? I don't even mean that sarcastically, either. People mostly want to know which side are you on? Democrats are keenly aware of this when it comes to gay issues, trans issues, race issues, union issues, and so forth. Did Biden walking a picket line actually help UAW workers get a better contract? Of course not. Did it get a lot of UAW votes anyway? You bet.

For some reason, though, Democrats have long been unable to understand this when it comes to the working class. I don't mean that they disparage working class voters. They don't. But they don't loudly promote their interests either—not economic interests and not cultural interests. A $25,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers? Come on. Nobody understands that. Sex change surgery for trans prisoners? Please. You think this is unfair? It's not. Kamala Harris "strongly" supported it of her own free will in 2019 because she thought it would appeal to the college educated lefties that made up her base. And it was official policy under both Obama and Biden.

I believe pretty strongly that, in reality, neither party is able to do much for the working class. Biden did a little bit for them by increasing subsidies for Obamacare, but that's probably about as much as any president has done this century. Harris actually came close with her long-term care proposal, and might have made a splash if she had flat-out endorsed Medicare covering all long-term care. But she didn't.

Still, for a variety of reasons, I remain skeptical of the argument that Trump won because of the economy. One reason that gets too little attention is the comparison between Biden and Ronald Reagan. Both faced high inflation, high unemployment, and slack wages, and both presided over an improving economy by the end of their first term. But Biden and Harris presided over a way better economy: inflation at 2.4% compared to 4.2%; unemployment at 4.1% compared to 7.2%; and blue collar wages up 5% over five years compared to down 10%. And yet Reagan won a landslide while Kamala Harris got badly beaten.

Now, that was 40 years ago and times have changed. And you can certainly argue that Biden also presided over the inevitable end of the pandemic goody bag. Still, it strikes me that the evidence suggests economic discontent was more media driven than real. Nothing else really adds up.

All that said, it's still the case that if you want the working class to vote for you, you have to take their side. Even if you're faking it, you still have to do it. Democrats haven't for a long time.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 8:51 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Actually, the President of the USA could do a lot for the working class. But it would require more than indirect measures (i.e. repatriating cash to American shores thru business tax cuts, making imports more expensive thru tariffs, dropping the price of energy in the USA, making productive investment here more attractive). It would require specific, targeted government reshoring mandates (i.e. like the chip industry).

In some ways, dropping the value of the dollar would help. I look at how Germany was de-industrialized and especially how Russia re-industrialized. Kicking Russia off SWIFT created the kind if capital controls that governments dream of, since the ruble was forced to stay at home, and it had no place else to go except at-home investment.

Surely, we can't be outdone by Russia, right?

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 9:09 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
But the employer of those employees can make the corporation's income whatever he wants.

And why is that?

You're not telling me anything I dont know, son.
Ive complained about the unequal treatment of individuals v business, starting with the fact that businesses get to deduct their expenses from their receipts and individuals, for the most part, don't.

Why is our tax law so complex? LEGAL loopholes written by Congress for lobbyists and donors. IMHO, if busineses have the same rights as individuals, they should have the same responsibilities, the same taxes, be required to adhere to the same laws, and face the same punishments. But they don't and they aren't. Publicly held companies really only have one responsibility, and that is (supposedly) a fiduciary duty to their shareholders.

If you don't like business law, complain about Congress, not about Trump and Buffet and Chase bank and Exxon who take advantage of it.

Dummy.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 9:23 AM

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If you don't like business law, complain about Congress, not about Trump and Buffet and Chase bank and Exxon who take advantage of it.

Dummy.

It is NOT Congress. It is Trump-supporting Republicans doing this. The enforcement budget for the IRS shrinks year by year, with fewer and fewer auditors who are paid only 1% of what Trump pays his tax lawyers. The best IRS auditors quit because of low pay and become lawyers for tax cheaters.

IRS loses $20.2 billion in funding
March 26, 2024

https://www.grantthornton.com/insights/newsletters/tax/2024/hot-topics
/mar-26/irs-loses-billion-in-funding

The IRS annual budget will remain flat at $12.3 billion for fiscal 2024, but the agency will officially lose $20.2 billion more of the $80 billion special allocation enacted as part of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).

Republicans have made IRS funding a popular political talking point and have successfully chipped away at the $80 billion allocation since the IRA was enacted:

Republicans initially secured a $275 million 2% cut in annual funding for fiscal year 2023 (which is now repeated in flat fiscal 2024 funding).

The debt limit deal last June rescinded $1.4 billion in IRA funding immediately with a handshake agreement to claw back $10 billion in each of fiscal 2024 and 2025.

Republicans later secured an agreement to claw back the entire $20 billion in fiscal 2024, which is now fulfilled by the $20.2 rescission in the current minibus.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 9:28 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.

If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.

Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.

And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 1:46 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.

If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.

Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.

And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.

You were in pollution. How do you hide dirty water and air? You don't. But income can be hidden. The tax enforcers have to contend with subterfuge and with highly paid but morally bankrupt accountants who will certify whatever numbers the tax-cheater pulls out of his ass. They will even create vast amounts of documentation, totally fictional, to prove the fake numbers are real. And the result? Income hidden. Tax doesn't get paid on hidden income. If polluters could hide pollution with paperwork, they'd do it.

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Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?

It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.

Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?

The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”

But this line of analysis requires that we ask one more question. And it’s the crucial one: Why didn’t a majority of voters see these things? And understanding the answer to that question is how we start to dig out of this tragic mess.

The answer is the right-wing media. Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country.

More here. https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-
fox

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Originally posted by second:
Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?

It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.

Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?

The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”

But this line of analysis requires that we ask one more question. And it’s the crucial one: Why didn’t a majority of voters see these things? And understanding the answer to that question is how we start to dig out of this tragic mess.

The answer is the right-wing media. Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country.

More here. https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-
fox

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

We saw those things. We don't care. We don't trust you. We don't trust the Media. We certainly don't trust Democrats.

Complain some more that you can't censor people who don't agree with you, Nazi.

If people didn't see their quality of life go down the drain in the last 4 years, Harris would be President right now.

You suck. Everything you do sucks. Everything you say is a lie.

Stop putting the blame on everyone but yourselves.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 2:51 PM

P.S. Democrats lost the house too.

219R / 209D. 218 to win.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 2:52 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.

If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.

Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.
And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.

SECOND: You were in pollution. How do you hide dirty water and air? You don't. But income can be hidden.

So can individual sources of pollution. By falsifying records. "Midnight dumping". Modifying processes eg. turning off incinerators or opening dampers. Switching suppliers. Accusing the accuser. Making the agency prove every dot and jot of evidence. Chain of custody. Technical details. Like the OJ Simpson trial. Dividing responsibility. Fighting citations or criminal charges either passively or actively.

You think Home Depot or BOArco don't have the resources to cheat and to fight? From money laundering, Mafia owned businesses to industrial giants like Bethlehem Steel on their way down. It's not my first rodeo, son. And my dad, who was a sales tax auditor, saw it all.

But I was referring to the process of writing laws and regulations. They would be so much simpler if every business didn't lobby to carve out exceptions for themselves. Seen crooked politicians accepting money for consideration.

Like I said, not my first rodeo. And you OBVIOUSLY don't know how the real world works. Son.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 2:55 PM

All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 3:21 PM

POPULAR VOTE COUNT: 75,145,517 Trump (50.3%) / 71,884,039 Harris (48.1%)

Still needs counting...

California: 24% remains
Alaska: 20% remains
Oregon: 13% remains
Utah: 13% remains
Washington: 8% remains
Washington D.C.: 7% remains
Maryland: 7% remains
Colorado: 5% remains
Arizona: 5% remains
New Jersey: 5% remains
Nevada: 3% remains
Nebraska: 2% remains
Mississippi: 2% remains

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 5:43 PM

Wow. We won't know what the actual popular vote was until after New Years at the rate Democrats count.

75,175,276 for Trump / 71,933,375 for Harris.

That's like 80,000 votes counted in almost 2.5 hours.

Why are you so broken, West Coast?

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:13 PM