In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2) by SIGNYM

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I'll post in Tag.

THGR is a liar and a troll.

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I appreciate ya, Sigs.

I really don't understand what the problem is. All he needs to do to have the tags free and clear is stop posting political stuff there and stop insulting me. Any post I've ever made in the tags since long before the site went down was either talking with Brenda about non-political things or telling Ted to keep politics and political cartoons out of the tags. I've never posted anything political there or insulting that wasn't reactionary to something he put there first.

Second never posted in the tags at all until the site went down, and now he can't seem to stop himself.

Ted seems to care about the tags with the possibility of people coming back if the Firefly reboot that may be announced Sunday ends up being a real thing, but instead of telling Second to cut the crap and keep politics out of the tags, he's choosing instead to continue attacking me.

I've already laid down the terms. I won't post in the tags again if they stop insulting me and they keep their politics in the RWED where it belongs. And neither of them are going to get the last word in the tags either.

I don't think Second cares at all either way, but Ted knows what needs to be done.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 2:50 PM

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Yeah, medical good.

Still at library because I am trying to get things right, *sigh* I am having a hard time figuring this all out from the library.

Will take a look at Tags for you.

Thanks Brenda.

Glad your medical stuff turned out well.

What's the problem with the monitor now? Can you give me the name of the company that made it and the model number?

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The problem is I can't figure out where to plug the cord into the back of my computer. This is certainly making me feel stupid.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 2:54 PM

Still at library and still trying to figure things out.

Won't be in tomorrow as my day to veg and Monday I am off to work. Tuesday I have someone willing to help but I will keep working on it over the weekend.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 2:59 PM

Had on Thursday and today two of the most Canadian things happen. One was the neurologist. We both apologized for the ecg. Him for not explaining the way he ordered it and me for not asking the why.

Today it was at a local mall. They have doors that open when you show your hand to the sensor. Lady in a scooter wanted out and I wanted to go in. I told her to come out and she said no I should go in first. This went on for a minute when another lady with a can came along and said, "Stop arguing ladies." with a smile. Finally I went in and held the door for the lady in the scooter.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 3:09 PM

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Yeah, medical good.

Still at library because I am trying to get things right, *sigh* I am having a hard time figuring this all out from the library.

Will take a look at Tags for you.

Thanks Brenda.

Glad your medical stuff turned out well.

What's the problem with the monitor now? Can you give me the name of the company that made it and the model number?

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The problem is I can't figure out where to plug the cord into the back of my computer. This is certainly making me feel stupid.

When you say "cord" you mean the HDMI cord?

If memory serves, you verified with the person/shop you bought this from that it had the HDMI output before you bought it, right?

It's possible that you're looking on the back and it's not actually on the back. A lot of TV's and Monitors have the HDMI outputs on the side of the monitor. Usually on the right side.

It's also possible that there is an upside-down "shelf" that is on the back of the monitor where you would plug the HDMI cord UP into it, parallel to the back of the monitor rather than sticking it straight in perpendicular to the back as well.

I'll see ya when you get back from work on Monday or Tuesday. If you still can't figure it out by then, please tell me the name of the company on the box and the model number. I should be able to look it up online with that info and tell you exactly where you need to put the HDMI cord.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 3:11 PM

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Had on Thursday and today two of the most Canadian things happen. One was the neurologist. We both apologized for the ecg. Him for not explaining the way he ordered it and me for not asking the why.

Today it was at a local mall. They have doors that open when you show your hand to the sensor. Lady in a scooter wanted out and I wanted to go in. I told her to come out and she said no I should go in first. This went on for a minute when another lady with a can came along and said, "Stop arguing ladies." with a smile. Finally I went in and held the door for the lady in the scooter.

LOL... that second one for sure sounds just about as Canadian as Canadian gets.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 3:30 PM

Doing some painting today. I'm tired of laying around and sleeping most of the time. I think in the last 2 days I've gotten about 38 hours worth of sleep. And there comes a point where I think that doing nothing is actually doing me more harm than good even though I'm still recovering from whatever is going on with my lung.

My outer basement walls are split in half, with the bottom jutting out around 5" where the foundation is because of the studs and drywall on top of it, which leaves "shelves" along the outer wall. I put up that drywall in the room you can see from the 1st floor many years ago and put the finish paint on it maybe 2 or 3 years ago now. Even though I still need to do some work to make sure I won't flood again, I've managed to keep that drywall dry even in the 2 or 3 emergency flood situations I had since it was put up. The work I've done outside with landscaping and raising that concrete slab where the spigot is 5" on top of having gutters on the house should probably remediate most of the flooding issues except for when there is Noah's Ark flooding conditions like we had in May of 2020, and the work I intend to do this summer should eliminate the worry completely going forward.

2 years ago I brought down the nice trim from the rafters of my garage that I had pulled off 14 years ago, first thing, when I gutted the entire basement because of the mold and sanded them all down good. When I was out the other day running some errands I brought all of it in my basement on horses, and now I'm priming and painting it. I've got to be REALLY careful though because 2 of the 7 pieces are really long and even on a near 45 degree angle they barely fit in the room without scraping the finished walls. If it were warm and dry outside, it would have been a lot better to be doing it all out there. It should be okay as long as I'm mindful with it though.

I swore I wrote on the back where each piece went though, and unfortunately I didn't. Some of these pieces are near identical in size, so I can't screw that up when I'm putting them back into place. Some of them aren't even close to be ready to be installed because the rest of the basement would need to be finished first, but I figured I'd just paint all of them now and the ones I'm not using can be staged somewhere in my garage high up and wrapped in plastic so they don't get messed up before installation.

Feels good to be working again even if I'm not feeling close to 100%. This is light work so it's no big deal. I'm just glad I sanded all of that down already because that's the tough part, and I don't need that crap in my lungs right now.

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 6:26 PM

Damn primer don't want to dry in the cold basement. Figured for sure I'd have all of that stuff painted before sunset and maybe even get some of it back in place where it belongs today.

I used to have ceiling fans down there, but they both had saggy fins because of the humidity and water damage when I moved in and would have needed to be replaced if I hadn't already decided it wasn't worth it to put fans back up there because they were dangerous.

I'm short enough where it wouldn't have mattered none for me, but I could see my dad or brother or a few of my 6 foot plus friends going down in the basement when the fans were running and not paying attention as the blades took a chunk out of their foreheads.

Probably too dusty down there for fans right now anyhow, and I wouldn't want to kick up dust on top of the painted surfaces.

I don't know why I always do this. I haven't done much work on the house in a long time, but now that I am I'll probably be up half the night until the painting is finished instead of finishing it tomorrow. Then I'll sleep in half the day and get nothing done tomorrow.

Oh well...

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Monday, March 16, 2026 6:12 PM

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Sorry about the primer, SIX. But good for you! Sounds like about the right level of effort to be active but not exhausted.

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Monday, March 16, 2026 6:15 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Yeah, medical good.

Still at library because I am trying to get things right, *sigh* I am having a hard time figuring this all out from the library.

Will take a look at Tags for you.

Thanks Brenda.

Glad your medical stuff turned out well.

What's the problem with the monitor now? Can you give me the name of the company that made it and the model number?

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The problem is I can't figure out where to plug the cord into the back of my computer. This is certainly making me feel stupid.

Huh. Did your dead monitor actually have HDMI? Maybe compare the new HDMI to the old cable to see if they're the same?

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Monday, March 16, 2026 6:21 PM

I stayed up until after 1AM and I finished what I was working on that day. Did a whole lot of stuff yesterday too and got all the accent trim I've been wanting to do for years now on the starwell going up to the 2nd floor and down into the basement.

Today I sanded down the old threshold that was between the kitchen and living room floors as well as the last piece of floor trim at the bottom of the lone cabinet on the other side of the stove. I've got to prime and paint that piece of trim before I install it, and I'm going to stain and poly the threshold. I don't want to paint the threshold white because people will be walking on it.

I think I'm probably done for the day though. I put in about 22 hours of work over the last two days and I'm going to take it easy. Got that chest doctor appointment tomorrow, so I probably won't do much but run errands after it's over.

It's ice cold in the basement again today after we had some warmer temps. High today and tomorrow is only 27 degrees, but then it warms up a bit again on Wednesday. I really don't feel like spending any more time in the basement working while it's this cold anyhow.

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 1:20 PM

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Originally posted by BRENDA:
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Originally posted by BRENDA:
Yeah, medical good.

Still at library because I am trying to get things right, *sigh* I am having a hard time figuring this all out from the library.

Will take a look at Tags for you.

Thanks Brenda.

Glad your medical stuff turned out well.

What's the problem with the monitor now? Can you give me the name of the company that made it and the model number?

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The problem is I can't figure out where to plug the cord into the back of my computer. This is certainly making me feel stupid.

When you say "cord" you mean the HDMI cord?

If memory serves, you verified with the person/shop you bought this from that it had the HDMI output before you bought it, right?

It's possible that you're looking on the back and it's not actually on the back. A lot of TV's and Monitors have the HDMI outputs on the side of the monitor. Usually on the right side.

It's also possible that there is an upside-down "shelf" that is on the back of the monitor where you would plug the HDMI cord UP into it, parallel to the back of the monitor rather than sticking it straight in perpendicular to the back as well.

I'll see ya when you get back from work on Monday or Tuesday. If you still can't figure it out by then, please tell me the name of the company on the box and the model number. I should be able to look it up online with that info and tell you exactly where you need to put the HDMI cord.

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Sorry, I do and mean the HMDI connector. Took it back to where I bought with the help of my boss's husband and the guy at the counter explained to her HUSBAND, because he was a MAN that I needed another piece. Something that converts male to female? I know what I am looking for anyways.

Had to tell the young man TWICE that it was my computer but he didn't really listen till my boss's husband spoke up.

Rotten kids.

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 1:23 PM

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Had on Thursday and today two of the most Canadian things happen. One was the neurologist. We both apologized for the ecg. Him for not explaining the way he ordered it and me for not asking the why.

Today it was at a local mall. They have doors that open when you show your hand to the sensor. Lady in a scooter wanted out and I wanted to go in. I told her to come out and she said no I should go in first. This went on for a minute when another lady with a can came along and said, "Stop arguing ladies." with a smile. Finally I went in and held the door for the lady in the scooter.

LOL... that second one for sure sounds just about as Canadian as Canadian gets.

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It was funny and we all went away with a smile.

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 1:25 PM

Sounds really good to hear you talking about working again.

That is great. My understanding is primer doesn't like too cold or too hot.

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 1:27 PM

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Originally posted by BRENDA:
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Originally posted by BRENDA:
Yeah, medical good.

Still at library because I am trying to get things right, *sigh* I am having a hard time figuring this all out from the library.

Will take a look at Tags for you.

Thanks Brenda.

Glad your medical stuff turned out well.

What's the problem with the monitor now? Can you give me the name of the company that made it and the model number?

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The problem is I can't figure out where to plug the cord into the back of my computer. This is certainly making me feel stupid.
Huh. Did your dead monitor actually have HDMI? Maybe compare the new HDMI to the old cable to see if they're the same?

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Not sure if it really did or not. I have finally got it figured out. I need another piece for it to convert the HDMI from the new monitor to connect to my computer.

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 1:27 PM

Still at the library but now I know where I am going.

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 1:34 PM

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Ah! You need some sort of adapter!
Simple fix!

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If you can believe it, my sis in WNY just got an inch of snow, and it's 19°F! Meanwhile .... here in the flatlands of Los Angeles it's been late summer for a couple of weeks now, and today is a sweltering 98°F!

Jeez, I wish the weather could average out some!

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Tuesday, March 17, 2026 2:17 PM

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Sounds really good to hear you talking about working again. That is great. My understanding is primer doesn't like too cold or too hot.

Yeah... Feels good to be working again too.

I might show some pictures since it's not outside work. The stuff that I've done so far this week is in the general area of the overlook that I posted a few years ago. Nothing too intense, but just putting some long-awaited final touches on things like thresholds for the coat closet, pantry and the door leading up to the attic, as well as putting some nice L-shaped corner pieces to really make the transitions between the paint colors pop with that nice high-gloss white trim.

Had a few "problems" with that last bit though that are going to require quite a bit of finish work. First problem is I wish I had my youngest brother's math skills, because figuring out angles really isn't my thing beyond 90 degree angles (if I show pictures, you'll see what I mean). For the most part I was able to cobble together what I wanted, but I ended up doing a lot of the cuts on the trim by hand with a coping saw instead of using the mitre saw. To add to the troubles, the "finished" product of the walls/ceilings were nowhere near perfect angles in the first place, so I had to take a few shortcuts that will need to be fixed later. It's going to require a bit of wood filler along with the standard caulking I'd do, and I have quite a few brad nail holes that need to be filled in before a final paint job.

Right now it's like a Monet painting. Looks great from far, but it's far from great.

It will be damn near perfect when I'm finished with it though.

So your computer didn't have an HDMI then? Was it a "Display Port" then? I wasn't even aware of that type of connection until I got those cheap computers a few years ago from a hospital, and all those HP computers/laptops had Display Port out. I needed to buy adapters for all of them.

If you use that cable to carry the sound to the monitor, you'll have to make sure the adapters that you buy carry the sound too. Hopefully the computer store guy steered you in the right direction there. No worries if he didn't though... If you hook everything up and you have no sound, at least you'll have a working computer. Let me know if this happens and I can direct you to the proper adapter that will carry the sound signals as well.

Sigs... Geez... 98 degrees!!!

It's 26 degrees here right now.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 2:28 AM

I ran some errands today after my chest doctor appointment, and one of the places I went was my old job where they eliminated the overnight shift back in 2019.

When I started there, I was making $10.50/hr which included a $1.00/hr overnight premium. By the time I left in 2019, I was only making $11.72/hr. Team leads were only paid $14.50/hr (or $15.50/hr overnight).

I just found out today from the cashier that the starting pay there now is $18.00/hr. for a regular employee and they brought back the night shift.

I think I might know where I'm going to put in my first job application when I'm ready to go back to work. I loved that job, and even at $11.72/hr I would have been happy working there until I retired.

Finding out that the starting pay is nearly double what it was only 9 years ago makes the higher prices I've been paying for nearly everything not sound so bad at all. At $18 or $19/hr, I'd be saving far more money than I was able to save making only $11.72/hr despite the higher prices thanks to Joe Biden*'s inflation.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 7:46 AM

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I spent the whole day goofing off and finalizing the plant list for the front yard. Of course, I can't actually DO anything about it for at least the next 10 days bc, if the forecast holds, the lowest high temp is expected to be 87, well above my safe limit. But I'm happy with the list, gonna stroll the front and mark the sizes of the mature plants and make sure I have those plants in the right place.

Wish I could get out and do something in the back, too. Yesterday I counted a dozen butterflies in the back yard. A dozen! And with all of the flowers there, none are accessible to butterflies. I have some yarrow in pots just waiting to be planted, but that would involve too much digging up Bermuda grass and laying in root barrier, and that's no bueno for me in this heat.

Spring! Come back! We miss you!

Still, I'm very happy with the list. BTW here is a picture of my favorite landscape and weather

Front yard can't possibly look like that, but I really like it. It's just inviting a stroll, isn't it?

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 2:22 PM

That looks nice.

It's all dead around here still.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 3:39 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ah! You need some sort of adapter!
Simple fix!

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If you can believe it, my sis in WNY just got an inch of snow, and it's 19°F! Meanwhile .... here in the flatlands of Los Angeles it's been late summer for a couple of weeks now, and today is a sweltering 98°F!

Jeez, I wish the weather could average out some!

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Exactly and I've got a couple of places to look. Lady at the seniors centre called one place for me and they have the part. Will get it on Friday as I have too much to do before then.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 3:42 PM

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Originally posted by BRENDA:
Sounds really good to hear you talking about working again. That is great. My understanding is primer doesn't like too cold or too hot.

Yeah... Feels good to be working again too.

I might show some pictures since it's not outside work. The stuff that I've done so far this week is in the general area of the overlook that I posted a few years ago. Nothing too intense, but just putting some long-awaited final touches on things like thresholds for the coat closet, pantry and the door leading up to the attic, as well as putting some nice L-shaped corner pieces to really make the transitions between the paint colors pop with that nice high-gloss white trim.

Had a few "problems" with that last bit though that are going to require quite a bit of finish work. First problem is I wish I had my youngest brother's math skills, because figuring out angles really isn't my thing beyond 90 degree angles (if I show pictures, you'll see what I mean). For the most part I was able to cobble together what I wanted, but I ended up doing a lot of the cuts on the trim by hand with a coping saw instead of using the mitre saw. To add to the troubles, the "finished" product of the walls/ceilings were nowhere near perfect angles in the first place, so I had to take a few shortcuts that will need to be fixed later. It's going to require a bit of wood filler along with the standard caulking I'd do, and I have quite a few brad nail holes that need to be filled in before a final paint job.

Right now it's like a Monet painting. Looks great from far, but it's far from great.

It will be damn near perfect when I'm finished with it though.

So your computer didn't have an HDMI then? Was it a "Display Port" then? I wasn't even aware of that type of connection until I got those cheap computers a few years ago from a hospital, and all those HP computers/laptops had Display Port out. I needed to buy adapters for all of them.

If you use that cable to carry the sound to the monitor, you'll have to make sure the adapters that you buy carry the sound too. Hopefully the computer store guy steered you in the right direction there. No worries if he didn't though... If you hook everything up and you have no sound, at least you'll have a working computer. Let me know if this happens and I can direct you to the proper adapter that will carry the sound signals as well.

Sigs... Geez... 98 degrees!!!

It's 26 degrees here right now.

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I am still figuring out what all the ports and such are called. All I know is I need GVA or VGA adapter. One has the blue screw on end and the other will fit onto the HMDI cord for the monitor.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 3:46 PM

Well, the old pineapple express is dumping a ton of rain on my area. There are minor flood watches here and into Washington state. As long as the Nooksack river doesn't go over it's banks the Sumas prairie should be okay.

Sumas is all reclaimed land. Bout 100 years ago it was a lake. Some people think it should go back to that. Except there are businesses and farmers in the area.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 3:46 PM

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That looks nice.

It's all dead around here still.

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Oh BTW I forgot to ask ... how did the appointment go with the lung doctor, SIX?

No news = good news?

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 3:48 PM

Doing things today that I have been forgetting about. Very nerve wracking. Need one more thing tomorrow then Friday it is off to get this adapter. Fingers crossed it will sort it out.

Out for lunch soon then veg shopping and one other thing. Then into the dry.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 3:53 PM

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BRENDA

VGA = Video Graphics Array.

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VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, which is a standard for video display and a type of connector used to transmit analog video signals from a computer to a display device. It was introduced by IBM in 1987 and has been widely used in various applications since then

So what you need is a VGA+AUDIO to HDMI adapter...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=hdmi%20vga%20adapter&N=0
&InitialSearch=yes&msclkid=d2795ed7aaf91ebd73bd376cab01cfec

It must be VGA+AUDIO

There are simpler VGA to HDMI adapters but you won't get sound

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 6:13 PM

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That looks nice.

It's all dead around here still.

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Oh BTW I forgot to ask ... how did the appointment go with the lung doctor, SIX?

No news = good news?

Yeah. No news. Kind of what I figured. I'm sure the doctor got paid $750 for the 10 minutes I saw him.

He wants the CT scan pushed out 2 months from the first scan instead of only 1 month and then I go back to see him after that.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2026 6:22 PM

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BRENDA

VGA = Video Graphics Array.
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VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, which is a standard for video display and a type of connector used to transmit analog video signals from a computer to a display device. It was introduced by IBM in 1987 and has been widely used in various applications since then

So what you need is a VGA+AUDIO to HDMI adapter...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=hdmi%20vga%20adapter&N=0
&InitialSearch=yes&msclkid=d2795ed7aaf91ebd73bd376cab01cfec

It must be VGA+AUDIO

There are simpler VGA to HDMI adapters but you won't get sound

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Wow. That is an OLD computer.

You should really think about getting a new desktop Brenda. If it's got nothing but VGA, that's got to be a video card and the motherboard doesn't even have on-board video. That thing is probably from like 2010 or older then, huh?

Even my video cards from back then had VGA and DVI outputs on them.

I don't think she needs the VGA + Audio adapter. (I didn't even know they made them until I just looked now, to be honest). VGA is strictly a video signal. A VGA+Audio adapter has an additional 3.5mm jack that you plug into the audio output, or a USB jack that I assume you would plug into one of the standard USB outputs (and burn a valuable one up since Brenda probably doesn't have more than 2 or 3 of them).

I'm assuming now that Brenda has separate computer speakers and she plugged those into the audio jack already and wasn't using the audio through her monitor.

I'm using a regular VGA to HDMI on my dual monitor setup because one of my monitors is a very old flat screen TV that didn't have any HDMI inputs, and my video card has two HDMI outs on it.

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Thursday, March 19, 2026 4:54 PM

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VGA = Video Graphics Array.
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VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, which is a standard for video display and a type of connector used to transmit analog video signals from a computer to a display device. It was introduced by IBM in 1987 and has been widely used in various applications since then

So what you need is a VGA+AUDIO to HDMI adapter...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=hdmi%20vga%20adapter&N=0
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It must be VGA+AUDIO

There are simpler VGA to HDMI adapters but you won't get sound

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Okay. I will know the piece when I see it. They are holding it for me.

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Thursday, March 19, 2026 4:56 PM

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BRENDA

VGA = Video Graphics Array.
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VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, which is a standard for video display and a type of connector used to transmit analog video signals from a computer to a display device. It was introduced by IBM in 1987 and has been widely used in various applications since then

So what you need is a VGA+AUDIO to HDMI adapter...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=hdmi%20vga%20adapter&N=0
&InitialSearch=yes&msclkid=d2795ed7aaf91ebd73bd376cab01cfec

It must be VGA+AUDIO

There are simpler VGA to HDMI adapters but you won't get sound

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Wow. That is an OLD computer.

You should really think about getting a new desktop Brenda. If it's got nothing but VGA, that's got to be a video card and the motherboard doesn't even have on-board video. That thing is probably from like 2010 or older then, huh?

Even my video cards from back then had VGA and DVI outputs on them.

I don't think she needs the VGA + Audio adapter. (I didn't even know they made them until I just looked now, to be honest). VGA is strictly a video signal. A VGA+Audio adapter has an additional 3.5mm jack that you plug into the audio output, or a USB jack that I assume you would plug into one of the standard USB outputs (and burn a valuable one up since Brenda probably doesn't have more than 2 or 3 of them).

I'm assuming now that Brenda has separate computer speakers and she plugged those into the audio jack already and wasn't using the audio through her monitor.

I'm using a regular VGA to HDMI on my dual monitor setup because one of my monitors is a very old flat screen TV that didn't have any HDMI inputs, and my video card has two HDMI outs on it.

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It might be. I think I mentioned when I got it it was refurbished but not sure how old it really is. Still holding out hope that this will work.

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Thursday, March 19, 2026 4:58 PM

Still raining and still coming to you from the library. We shall see what happens tomorrow. Need a bit of groceries in the rain.

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Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:02 PM

Brenda, I may not have asked you this before, but do you have computer speakers that plug into the back of your computer with a smaller wire that has and end that looks like the end of headphones that you'd plug into a walkman or mp3 player?

I didn't think to ask that before because I didn't realize how old your computer was. And now I'm assuming this is how you get your audio on that PC.

If the answer is yes, you don't need to worry about getting a VGA adapter with audio because you're getting your audio directly from the soundcard or motherboard straight to your computer speakers.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 12:47 AM

I think I got another cold when I went out to the doctor's and to run errands the other day. I don't think I'm relapsing on the lung front, but I've got a lot of nose-leaking and phlegm coming up. All clear though... nothing that looks or tastes nasty like I was hacking up before I got help.

So I haven't been doing much the last few days besides keeping bundled up and getting a lot of sleep. Woke up again about 6 hours ago though and got a lot more work done on my computer project, and decided to take a break from that and I stained that kitchen/livingroom threshold and primed/painted that one final finishing touch quarter-round piece for the outside cabinet.

I'll be putting about 3 coats of wipe-on poly on that threshold tomorrow so that won't be installed until the weekend, but I'll be able to get that final piece of cabinet trim up tomorrow.

Not tired at all right now, so despite the hour I think I'm going to put a few more hours into the computer project before I go back to sleep. I got around 750 things done on it today already, which is about half of what I needed to wrap up another huge portion of the work before I move on to the next thing. I would have had all that done weeks ago if it weren't for getting as sick as I did. I can't believe how long ago I started this large part of the project without finishing it. It's just one of those things that was so huge that it was daunting from the start. And looking back to the starting date and seeing that it's still not finished is really getting to me.

If I don't finish it tonight, I should be able to finish it tomorrow. We're finally going to have some decent weather tomorrow, so I'll probably be going out to my garage and seeing what else I have out there to work on and bring it back in the house. I'll probably also take my throw rugs and entryway mats and beat the dust out of them outside and sweep/vac up the floors and get a little spring cleaning done while I'm at it. When my old man comes back from his trip, I want the place to be really clean while I'm showing off all the new work that I've recently done.

We're not done with winter yet and still have some cold days ahead of us, but if I get all that inside while it's warm this weekend and get things staged, I should have plenty of stuff to work on. At least it looks like we're done with days in the 20's and 30's now.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 2:54 PM

Still at the library and got the adapter yesterday afternoon. Boss's husband called me to see if I had found it. Said I did and the place was holding it for me. He was talking for a minute when I said a ride would be great. He was calling from the local mall and so he came over and got me. I got the adapter and hooked it up. Tried it and nothing happened. Went back to ask about a menu that comes up. He said use the arrow keys.

But yeah it looks like again I will have to bit the bullet. Place I got the adapter said $700 CAD for monitor and drive. Sorry old lady here. But I don't want the whole set up as I already laid out $200 CAD on the monitor. Also don't need anything for gaming. Arrgghh! Always a production.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 2:55 PM

Yesterday morning at mah jong was terrible.

And tomorrow is laundry. Will be in after I get a bite to eat.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 3:36 PM

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Still at the library and got the adapter yesterday afternoon. Boss's husband called me to see if I had found it. Said I did and the place was holding it for me. He was talking for a minute when I said a ride would be great. He was calling from the local mall and so he came over and got me. I got the adapter and hooked it up. Tried it and nothing happened. Went back to ask about a menu that comes up. He said use the arrow keys.

But yeah it looks like again I will have to bit the bullet. Place I got the adapter said $700 CAD for monitor and drive. Sorry old lady here. But I don't want the whole set up as I already laid out $200 CAD on the monitor. Also don't need anything for gaming. Arrgghh! Always a production.

Man... This is why I wish you had a backup laptop so we could communicate better, Brenda. Maybe even figure out a time where we could actively talk back and forth while you were actively trying to get the desktop running. It's still not ideal back in forth here in the garden or the tags, but only once per day volleys makes me feel pretty useless trying to help you sort out this issue.

You said a menu came up? And he said to use the arrow keys? I don't know what you mean and you didn't elaborate beyond that. I still think your computer is fine, even though it's ancient, so I'm not sure why the adapter didn't solve your problem. Is the computer starting (do you see any lights, hear the drive and fans start up)?

If you need a new computer, there's a site called "WOOT.COM" which has been around forever and got bought out by Amazon maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

They have a new batch of refurbished computer inventory every week. Last week they had a refurbished computer under $100 USD that would have been fine for your needs. The cheapest they've got right now is $149.99 USD, but that's still way cheaper than $700 Canadian, and it would be quite an upgrade from your current desktop.

https://computers.woot.com/offers/lenovo-m710-sff-desktop-pc-8?ref=w_c
nt_lnd_cat_pc_4_1

That computer has all the outputs. It's got 1 HDMI, 2 Display ports and 1 VGA.

They've even got a laptop for the same price. The 4GB of memory is pretty small, but the laptop is new enough to have Windows 11 installed on it.

https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-14-intel-n150-uhd-graphics-laptop
-2?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_6_1

I can see from the picture that it also has an HDMI output, so you'd be able to plug it into your monitor without an adapter as well.

Can you have your boss or her husband order something for you and you can pay them back?

You really don't need to buy a new full-priced computer for your needs. If your local shop doesn't have used computers and you can't find one that sells used goods, Woot/Amazon really is a great way to go. Personally, I've used Craigslist to buy mine, but I wouldn't recommend that to you because you have to go and meet up with a random stranger and that could be dangerous.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 7:54 PM

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I think the sales guy is selling you a load of horse puckies.

Unless he's referring to something I don't know about, CAD is a piece of SOFTWARE - Computer Aided Design. It's for engineers, architects, and designers to help draw architectural plans, designs, and so forth. You don't need that!

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Friday, March 20, 2026 8:05 PM

CAD in this instance means Canadian Dollar.

Monitors are plug and play. Brenda shouldn't need any drivers. That's why I'm somewhat confused that the adapter didn't work for her. I think what she was seeing on screen wasn't any signal from the computer and was probably the monitor software looking for a signal.

It is possible that the monitor has several inputs and maybe Brenda needs to point the monitor to the correct input to get the signal from the computer. That's why I was asking her if she could confirm that the computer itself was still firing up (with the hard drive/fans making noise, and any LED lights on the front turning on).

The last computer monitor I bought was around 20 years ago now and only had one input. Any monitors I've used since were things other people were throwing out that only had one input too. Currently, I'm using two TVs as monitors on my computer, and I know that they won't work unless the correct input is pointed to.

I just did a google search "do modern computer monitors have multiple inputs" and the answer was yes. (And at the very high price of $200 CAD, I would damn well expect her monitor to have these features... I was just at Costco the other day and they were selling VISIO TVs that are quite a bit larger than my current TV/monitors for less than $100 USD and that wasn't even a sale price).

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Yes, modern computer monitors typically have multiple inputs
, allowing users to connect several devices simultaneously (such as a PC, laptop, or gaming console). Common configurations include combinations of HDMI, DisplayPort, and USB-C ports, which can be switched between using the monitor's on-screen display menu.

I'm thinking that this is most likely the problem now. Brenda just needs to read the instruction manual and figure out how to change the input on the monitor. It would probably be easier if it came with a remote control, but it probably didn't. Most likely there are some fairly hidden buttons on the side or bottom of the monitor that will allow her to enter the monitor's setup and to navigate the options. Hopefully there is a decent illustration of the buttons in the manual or on a "Quick Start" card that came with it.

I'm guessing that Brenda's PC is working fine and was sending the signal properly to the monitor. We just have to make sure that the monitor is looking for the signal from the correct input. We're probably only one small step away from her having her computer at home back up and running again.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 8:15 PM

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Having looked this up, it could be what you got is a "passive adapter" when what you might need is an "active adapter"

A passive adapter literally just converts the shape of the connector from VGA to HDMI without doing anything to the signal.

The problem is, your VGA computer is putting out what's called an analog signal, similar to the signal from a vinyl record. But the monitor is expecting a digitized signal, like a DVD or CD. Active adapters convert the VGA (analog) signal to a digital one that the monitor is capable of displaying.
https://smallusefultips.com/what-is-an-active-vga-to-hdmi-adapter/

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Friday, March 20, 2026 8:21 PM

Well... like I eventually got around to saying above, I think it's most likely just the monitor needing to point to the correct input. I would hope that the people who sold her the adapter would have known about any of those compatibility issues. I can just speak from experience that I've never had any problems with my VGA/HDMI adapters over the years, and I never even knew that there was possible conflicts with them. In fact, I don't even remember when I would have gotten them since I don't remember ever buying these adapters. Probably something that I just took from somebody else who was just throwing away old computer junk they didn't need anymore, and I know I didn't get them after I got sober, so they're already at least 10 years old if not many years older.

I think all Brenda needs to do is look at the instructions and figure out how to get into the monitor's setup menu and point the monitor to look for the signal from the HDMI input she's got it plugged into.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 8:28 PM

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Monitor's setup menu.

Ok, got it.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 8:45 PM

Yeah... I'm like 90%+ sure that's the issue here, anyhow.

Really hard to diagnose something I can't see first hand or have somebody on the phone that I'm walking through the steps in real-time. Gets even more difficult when new pieces are brought into the puzzle and I don't know exactly what those pieces look like.

But it makes the most sense to me right now. It's for sure the first thing that I would be trying to do.

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Friday, March 20, 2026 9:01 PM

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The temp topped out today at 97°F. Tomorrow expecting a 10° drop, so the temp will be ONLY (!) 87°F.

Hazardous waste roundup event tomorrow. With daughter's help collected up all the old cleaners, paint, pesticides etc for disposal. Glad to be rid of that stuff!

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Friday, March 20, 2026 11:51 PM

I hope it cools off for you soon Sigs. That sucks.

I finished that part of my computer project just a few hours ago. That's a major milestone for me. Though I don't currently intend to add much more new stuff to it, there is some smaller things that still need to be added. This last bit was by far the largest of the work I was looking to do right now. So there's still a few smaller additions I plan on making and most of the rest of it is just going back and making some edits here and there and making sure everything is up to my standards. Not really close to finishing it because of my perfectionism, but it's really nice to finally get it to the point where the main "skeleton" is fleshed out anyhow.

In the meantime I did some of the spring cleaning I wanted to get done, and I got three coats of poly on that kitchen/living room threshold so it should be ready to install tomorrow afternoon. I also got that last piece of cabinet trim up. That was a little trickier than I'd hoped it would be because the bottom of the cabinet was a little blown out, but I made it work. Just one more thing to touch-up when I get to that point. I'm not going to spend any time doing wood filler, caulk, touch-up paint finishing touches now and I'm instead going to be getting a lot of other things done around the house and then I'll do all of that at once.

I think the next thing I'll do is get the windowsill and trim in the bathroom cleaned up and scuff sanded so I can prime it, and take out the existing floor trim. I haven't decided if that's going to be painted and put back up, or if I'm going to get matching baseboard to what most of the rest of the house looks like yet because the baseboard matches the size of the trim on that window, and I can't use the larger base/trim I put up everywhere else on that window because it's too close to the shower. It might look better if I use the smaller baseboard in the bathroom so it doesn't look out of place while in the room itself, compared to the rest of the house.

I've also got a beautiful medicine cabinet and over the toilet cabinet that I need to sand down and paint, but I'm going to wait until the weather is a bit nicer and I can sand all of that down outside so I'm not breathing it in and getting that dust all over the inside of my house.

My old man is pushing really hard for me to get a new vanity that is 4"-6" wider than the one I've currently got because there would be room for that much if I put the trash bin on the other side of the toilet between the toilet and the wall, and since both of my bathrooms are small he thinks it would be a real selling point to maximize that space. I was just going to sand it down and paint it like I did all the kitchen cabinets (and I still have enough matching oil rubbed bronze hardware since I'd planned on doing that years ago). I dunno yet...

It will be nice when I finally get around to buying a REAL toilet though. I've been sitting on that bottom-shelf piece of shit toilet for 14 years now. I'm not a tall man, but even when I sit my ass down on it, it feels like a long way down before I hit it. My brother can't stand it, and it was really a pain for my grandma to use and for my aunt to get her back up off of it when she was done.

I've got a TON of really nice tiles out in my garage that I got from my friend when he was clearing out his parent's garage after his dad died. When I rip up the crappy vinyl tile in the bath and remove the toilet, I'm going to have to remove some of the sub-floor and replace it since it's obviously damaged underneath. But I should be able to get that floor really looking nice with those tiles. I just have to decide which pattern I want to go with, since I've got about 8 different choices with enough tiles to do the job.

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Saturday, March 21, 2026 4:57 PM

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Still at the library and got the adapter yesterday afternoon. Boss's husband called me to see if I had found it. Said I did and the place was holding it for me. He was talking for a minute when I said a ride would be great. He was calling from the local mall and so he came over and got me. I got the adapter and hooked it up. Tried it and nothing happened. Went back to ask about a menu that comes up. He said use the arrow keys.

But yeah it looks like again I will have to bit the bullet. Place I got the adapter said $700 CAD for monitor and drive. Sorry old lady here. But I don't want the whole set up as I already laid out $200 CAD on the monitor. Also don't need anything for gaming. Arrgghh! Always a production.

Man... This is why I wish you had a backup laptop so we could communicate better, Brenda. Maybe even figure out a time where we could actively talk back and forth while you were actively trying to get the desktop running. It's still not ideal back in forth here in the garden or the tags, but only once per day volleys makes me feel pretty useless trying to help you sort out this issue.

You said a menu came up? And he said to use the arrow keys? I don't know what you mean and you didn't elaborate beyond that. I still think your computer is fine, even though it's ancient, so I'm not sure why the adapter didn't solve your problem. Is the computer starting (do you see any lights, hear the drive and fans start up)?

If you need a new computer, there's a site called "WOOT.COM" which has been around forever and got bought out by Amazon maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

They have a new batch of refurbished computer inventory every week. Last week they had a refurbished computer under $100 USD that would have been fine for your needs. The cheapest they've got right now is $149.99 USD, but that's still way cheaper than $700 Canadian, and it would be quite an upgrade from your current desktop.

https://computers.woot.com/offers/lenovo-m710-sff-desktop-pc-8?ref=w_c
nt_lnd_cat_pc_4_1

That computer has all the outputs. It's got 1 HDMI, 2 Display ports and 1 VGA.

They've even got a laptop for the same price. The 4GB of memory is pretty small, but the laptop is new enough to have Windows 11 installed on it.

https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-14-intel-n150-uhd-graphics-laptop
-2?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_6_1

I can see from the picture that it also has an HDMI output, so you'd be able to plug it into your monitor without an adapter as well.

Can you have your boss or her husband order something for you and you can pay them back?

You really don't need to buy a new full-priced computer for your needs. If your local shop doesn't have used computers and you can't find one that sells used goods, Woot/Amazon really is a great way to go. Personally, I've used Craigslist to buy mine, but I wouldn't recommend that to you because you have to go and meet up with a random stranger and that could be dangerous.

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He was refeering to refurbished for both the monitor and computer at $700 Canadian.

When I set up the VGA and turned on the monitor a menu came up showing HMDI and VGA. The VGA was highlighted blue but my hand decided to shake and I hit the left side of the mouse enlarging it. So, I am now trying to get it back to the right size and see if it does work with my computer.

I can get a refurbished laptop at a local place. Would have to check prices.

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Saturday, March 21, 2026 5:01 PM

Dry today but cold. Library still. Will take another stab at all this when I get in. Could use a full time techy for this. See everone Monday.

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Saturday, March 21, 2026 6:01 PM

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When I set up the VGA and turned on the monitor a menu came up showing HMDI and VGA. The VGA was highlighted blue but my hand decided to shake and I hit the left side of the mouse enlarging it. So, I am now trying to get it back to the right size and see if it does work with my computer.

You're going to want to set it to HDMI on the monitor, Brenda. That may seem counterintuitive to you because you just bought a VGA adapter, but the monitor is only concerned which input you've put in the monitor itself.

You've put the VGA adapter into the computer video output, but then you plugged the HDMI cable into that adapter and the HDMI cable is going into an HDMI input on your monitor. (There may be more than one HDMI input on that monitor, so you will have to make sure it's pointing to the right one if there is).

And actually, you've just given me some good news here. If for some reason there's something wrong with that adapter and we can't get it working that way, it sounds like you have a VGA input on your monitor. So if you still have a straight up VGA to VGA cable from your old setup, you can just use that instead of the HDMI with the VGA adapter. Just plug in the VGA to the back of your computer, and put the other end of the cable into the VGA input on your new monitor and you should be good.

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He was refeering to refurbished for both the monitor and computer at $700 Canadian.

I can get a refurbished laptop at a local place. Would have to check prices.

That's really expensive, Brenda. Maybe computer prices in Canada are different, but I think they're taking you for a ride there and that's kind of pissing me off. New monitors are really cheap now, and a refurbished computer that would more than suit your needs are going for anywhere from $100 to $200 USD and shouldn't cost you more than about $275 CAD max. Honestly, if you were able to buy it online, you wouldn't have paid much more than $350 CAD max for a refurbished desktop and a brand new monitor combined.

This is bringing back memories of my grandma telling me she paid a plumber $260 to fix her water heater and all they did was install a new $8 universal thermocouple, or when my other grandma told me that a plumber charged her over $400 to install a new kitchen sink faucet.

I don't want you being taken advantage of anymore, so let's not buy any more parts or computers for now and see if we can get you fixed with what you already have on hand.

******IMPORTANT******

I have a few questions I need you to answer for me. One of them I've asked a few times now, so I want to emphasize it here...

1. When you start your computer, do you still hear the drive and fans fire up, and do you get any LED lights on the front showing you that it is powering on. I'm asking this because I think your computer is still fine, but I want to make sure that it is actually powering on.

2. You said you were using the mouse when you said this:

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When I set up the VGA and turned on the monitor a menu came up showing HMDI and VGA. The VGA was highlighted blue but my hand decided to shake and I hit the left side of the mouse enlarging it. So, I am now trying to get it back to the right size and see if it does work with my computer.

I'm a little confused here. If the computer isn't working, I don't understand how you're using the mouse or what you're looking at on your screen. The mouse shouldn't be able to control the monitor's setup menu. So it sounds to me like you're not looking at the monitor's setup menu and you've possibly got Windows coming up on your monitor now but there is an issue with the size of everything?

If this is the case, that means that your computer is working, it's sending the signal to the monitor and the HDMI cable/VGA adapter is working and your monitor is looking at the right input. We just need to go into Windows settings and make sure you're using the correct display size if things are too large or small.

3. Before we started, were you just using a VGA to VGA between your computer and monitor? (Blue connectors on each end of the cable).

I'm asking this because I think we may have made things more difficult than they needed to be by adding that HDMI cable to the mix. I didn't realize until just recently how old your computer was and how it only had the VGA out and it didn't have any HDMI outputs. If the answer is yes, remove the adapter and the HDMI cable, and find your old VGA to VGA cable and connect that to your PC and monitor and then power everything up and see if everything is the right size.

You may not have to change any screen resolution settings at all with the VGA to VGA and everything might just work right when and if you do this. It's possible that the screen size is wrong and needs to be changed only because you're using that VGA adapter and the HDMI cable into the monitor and it's confusing the monitor/computer.

If all else fails...

If you are seeing your Windows screen but the size is wrong, here are step-by-step instructions with pictures to change the screen resolution:

https://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Screen-Resolution-on-a-PC

*I can't remember which version of Windows you have, but that above link gives instructions for Windows 11, Windows 10, Windows 7/8, Windows Vista and Windows XP (in that order from top to bottom).

They're all pretty much the same, but they can look a little different between versions, so it's good that they have all of them. There's pretty much zero chance you have an even older version of Windows than any of those, even though we know your computer is pretty old now.

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