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Have we approached a critical mass in fluoride exposure? - In 1971, the National Academy of Sciences estimated that an adult's daily average fluoride intake was about 1.0 - 1.5 mg/day in the early 1950s. This was considered "optimal" at the time. The chart below is a graphic example of how much we're now getting. However, even the maxiumum values will not reflect true intakes for some subsets of the population. For example, athletes, diabetics, pregnant women, construction workers, and heavy tea drinkers can consume considerably more fluoride (up to 14 mgF/day). Case reports have shown that arthritis can be markedly alleviated by giving up tea. According to the World Health Organization, in combination with certain other factors (e.g., sub-optimal nutrition, kidney disease, etc.), a chronic fluoride intake of between 2.0 and 8.0 mg/day can produce the pre-clinical stage of skeletal fluorosis, a debilitating and/or crippling bone disease. The pre-clinical and early stages of skeletal fluorosis can be mistaken for arthritis. See skeletal.htm and click on "HUMAN". It is noteworthy to mention that in the table below the charts (Table 4B), many 6-mo-old infants are receiving a fluoride intake in mg/kg/day which equals the dose known to cause crippling skeletal fluorosis in adults if maintained.
http://www.fluoridation.com/fluoride.htm

The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben: In the 1930's Hitler and the German Nazis envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty. Any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically. Even in very small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the most effective rat-killer.
http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

From Major Jordan's Diaries: America sent rat poison to Stalin's Siberian prisoners, via Lend-Lease: Communist Russia's use of sodium fluoride during World War II was entered into the Congressional Record in the early 1950's. USAF Major George R. Jordan testified before Un-American Activity committees of Congress that he had been stationed in Great Falls, Montana during the war as a U.S.-Soviet liaison officer. Major Jordan stated that one of his tasks had been to procure "vast quantities" of sodium fluoride for shipment to Siberia via numerous Lend-Lease airplanes which we were sending to Russia from Montana, via Canada and Alaska. 7,926 airplanes were sent to Russia via this route. Major Jordan testified that the Russians openly admitted to "using the fluoride in the water supplies in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners stupid, docile, and subservient."
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/jordan/01.html

New Order of the Barbarians - "'People are too trusting, people don't ask the right questions.' Sometimes, being too trusting was equated with being too dumb. But sometimes when he would say that and say, 'People don't ask the right questions,' it was almost with a sense of regret, as if he were uneasy with what he was part of, and wished that people would challenge it and maybe not be so trusting. 'We can cure almost every cancer right now. Information is on file in the Rockefeller Institute, if it's ever decided that it should be released. But consider - if people stop dying of cancer, how rapidly we would become overpopulated. You may as well die of cancer as something else.' Efforts at cancer treatment would be geared more toward comfort than toward cure. There was some statement that ultimately the cancer cures which were being hidden in the Rockefeller Institute would come to light because independent researchers might bring them out, despite these efforts to suppress them. But at least for the time being, letting people die of cancer was a good thing to do because it would slow down the problem of overpopulation." - Dr. Lawrence Dunegan MD, quoting Dr. Richard Day MD who was director of Planned Parenthood paid $1-billion by the U.S. Govt to successfully genocide 100-million U.S. citizens
http://100777.com/nwo/barbarians

Obama Science Czar Dr John P Holdren PhD from his book Ecoscience: "The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits. Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock. A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births. Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society. One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption�especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society. In today's world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children? If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization."
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren

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HOLY SHIT! PN has had an impact!

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My first thought upon reading this headline: "Was he dropped from a great height?"


Byte: Bingo. You nailed it. Wulfie, if you didn't realize that PN is part of a long line of fluoride whackos with a long and sordid history, then welcome to the 1950s.

PS: The "Domino Theory" is a fraud, just in case you hadn't heard. Oh, and that McCarthy guy? Yeah, he dies a disgrace. Sorry to break the news to you.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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In any case, the yucks came about because Wulf thought that this was all due to PN's activity, not realizing that the fluoride conspiracy theory has been alive and well for more than 30 years.

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Groundwaters with high fluoride concentrations occur in many areas of the world including large parts of Africa, China, the Middle East and southern Asia (India, Sri Lanka). One of the best known high fluoride belts on land extends along the East African Rift from Eritrea to Malawi. There is another belt from Turkey through Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, India, northern Thailand and China. The Americas and Japan have similar belts.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Yeah, I've hear about it...

Just thought it was funny that people are starting to take it seriously.

But hey, whateves.

Anyone else wonder why tap water tastes like garbage, has tons of chemicals in it... and DeerPark is so expensive?



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Yeah, I've hear about it...

Just thought it was funny that people are starting to take it seriously.

But hey, whateves.

Anyone else wonder why tap water tastes like garbage, has tons of chemicals in it... and DeerPark is so expensive?



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Free markets?

I remember when our tap water used to be among the best in the nation, if not the world. Then it was decided that maybe it didn't need to be quite so clean, and we could save the taxpayers money by getting governments out of the clean water business, and if people really wanted clean water, they should buy it at the store. So instead of paying $2 for a thousand gallons, we get to pay $2 for a half-liter.

Ain't capitalism grand?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Regulations on drinking water have not been reduced since the Safe Drinking Water Act was passed. In fact they continue to get more stringent. The idea that drinking water is more unsafe or clean now than yesterday is false. Of course without that idea companies could not sell so many bottles of water or unneeded water treatment systems.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
But to your "they have become more stringent," I say, "not necessarily."

Standards get adjusted based on toxicity, dose, and risk assessments, and there's been a number of chemicals that have been deemed less of a health risk than in prior studies. I'd like to believe all of these assessments are based on good science - in your opinion I imagine they've been adjusted to better fit use and need - but I continue to have doubts that we're really doing good enough at protecting the public and that screening levels aren't influenced by industry.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I toyed with the idea that someone was producing the stuff in excess as the result of some industrial process and wanted the green light, so to speak, to pour it out.

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I toyed with the idea that someone was producing the stuff in excess as the result of some industrial process and wanted the green light, so to speak, to pour it out.

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I doubt there was any one specific reason, however that one sticks out as quite possible given that during the period in question it was a byproduct of mass producing nukes for the cold war.

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Researchers led by MIT professor Daniel Nocera have produced something they’re calling an “artificial leaf”: Like living leaves, the device can turn the energy of sunlight directly into a chemical fuel that can be stored and used later as an energy source.

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