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I have a plan for the 2012 elections.

Instead of having great candidates beat on each other for for two years, how about we team them up?

Yes folks, I am talking about running a Dream Team.

Put it this way,..A long drawn out battle will weaken every one of them. There will be nobody left who will be able to beat the rock star Obama.

Let's do this.
Run Palin and Allen West, or Allen West and Herman Cain at the top of the ticket. That takes away the left's most potent weapon, the notorious race card. You all know it will be used until it falls apart if you run a white candidate. The truth doesn't matter with the race card. It's effective, so take it away.

Put Palin as head of energy.That is certainly her strongest asset.

Put Ron Paul at the Fed Reserve and Romney at the Treasury.
Ron Paul is an expert on the Fed and Romney is a sharp business man. Both are suited for those positions.

Michelle Bachmann would be perfect as head of the EPA.
Put Huckabee on the Dept of Education.

If Trump is serious, put him on the banking commission as head of Fannie and Freddie. He is in the business of properties and development.

Bolton could be Defense secretary or even Secretary of State. Foreign policy is his strength http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/i-have-a-plan-for-the-2012-elections
. you've got a bunch of bullshit posted by a nutcase right-wing blogger, and that's your "proof"? Gawd.

Byte, you're buying into it. Before you were QUESTIONING the OccupyPolice and such; now you're convinced they're "involved"?? Which is it? I suppose that makes the Bethlehem Police Department part of the conspiracy, too, and it's inconceivable that ex-Marines, who are suffering the same things we all are, have no right to stand up and make their voices heard. Our "miltary" isn't involved, it's retired and non-active Marines only who are speaking up.

It's all a really good crock of shit, I commend you Raptor. The ACTUAL and obvious ties to the Tea Party have been documented many times, the Koch Brothers' involvement and money, etc.

Cav is absolutely right. If Obama were so smart and had such influence, there are a whole host of things he could have managed which he hasn't.

I don't know where you got that I looked into the movement and found the same people "behind it". Could you clarify that please, because NONE of the people ranted about by Raptor were people I found behind anything. The post you linked to was about Adbsuters and how OWS got started...how are you connecting that to those Raptor's little blogger is harping on?

The ONLY reference to Stephen Lerner being connected to Adbusters is, again, all over the internet by "FreeRepublic", "theblaze", "Redstate", "thenewamerican", "lunaticoutpost" (good name!), "conservapedia", "Teaparty.org"--in some cases they come up more than once--and tons of other obviously right-wing blogs. I gotta hand it to you guys, you're damned GOOD...I can't find any other link which would confirm Lerner is "behind" Adbusters or that Adbusters itself is some kind of subversive organization. I find lots of "Obama economic terrorism", "Adbusters, a Canadian “anti-consumerist” activist group began “subvertising” for a so-called Occupy Wall Street campaign, drawing from the publicity already in place for the Day of Rage. The Party was on!", "Unfortunately, the Left and its Complicit Media have co-opted most of the message and meaning of the OWS, draining it of any legitimate philosophical vigor and steering it towards the mortal shoals of inane class warfare rhetoric, the so-called “99%” pabulum. " The same sources show up page after page with the same stuff (how do they DO that, anyway?), slathering google and ensuring that nothing else shows up.

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Leftist protest Occupy Wall Street is an ongoing anti-capitalism rally, with beginnings as an astroturfing campaign funded by a George Soros group called Adbusters; invoked by Bill Ayers "Days of Rage," the first Occupy protest was staged on September 17, 2011 in New York City after months of planning by co-founder of SEIU Stephen Lerner. Occupy Wall Street protesters consist of radicals, anarchists, nihilists, college students, hippies, special interest groups, labor unions and vendors. They dislike capitalism, blame greed, Wall Street and the banks for economic hardship, and have been seen spitting on U.S. Military personnel. Similar 'Occupy' demonstrations have spread to a dozen cities, and has caused thousands of arrests across the United States.

The Occupy Wall Street movement was inspired by the Arab Spring protests in Cairo that were organized by the Muslim Brotherhood. Egyptians camped out in Tahir Square until Hosni Mubarak resigned.

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Jezus, they sound like PN (without the Jewphobia).

I'm not going to buy into "debating" something this disgusting. I figured it wouldn't take the right too long to gear up and start trying to demonize it; I'd say they were just about right on time. Good little soldier, Raptor, good little soldier.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Several months ago, the California Highway Patrol diverted a wacko fan of right-wing websites and Glenn Beck’s Fox News show from opening fire on our offices. After a 15-minute shootout, he was taken into custody and is now awaiting trial.

Among the many lies and misrepresentations repeated by the sites and shows that the gunman, Byron Williams, watched and listened to was the bizarre idea that George Soros “owns” the Tides organizations — through which he is allegedly pursuing a nefarious agenda to destroy America.

As a public charity, Tides is not owned by Soros, nor was it started by him. Soros is the founder and chairman of the Open Society Institute. It is just one of hundreds of funders that partner with Tides in programs to promote economic justice, democratic processes and human rights.

The Open Society funds are only a small percentage of Tides’ total contributions — far less than 5 percent of our $112 million total in 2009.

Amid the cacophony of screed, I didn’t focus on these lies about Soros. It has been bad enough to try to wrap my mind around how Beck and others were repeatedly labeling us “communists” and “socialists” and “anti-American” — on a channel that describes itself as “fair.”

Tides may be progressive, but we are enthusiastically American. Were it not for the capitalist system, not a dollar would flow through Tides. Families, foundations, corporations and collaborative groups use our services to make charitable contributions to nonprofit organizations that they recommend for grants.

I recently attended a dinner party hosted by Soros. We’d been introduced once some years ago, but I’d never spoken to him before. In the course of the evening, he captivated the table as he talked about the economy and current affairs.

As I was leaving, he posed an unexpected question. What did it feel like, he asked, to have had an “assassin” headed for our offices?

I have gotten many similar questions — though no one had used the word “assassin.” I responded that it deeply shocked and stunned us.

In some ways, I don’t think we’ve come to grips with the idea that something like this could happen in the country we’ve tried to make a better place for everyone — as do many in the nonprofit sector. Later, back in my hotel room, I started thinking about Soros some more. Why has he become the object of such anger?

It is not uncommon that financial leaders become demonized over business accomplishments. There are legendary targets, as John Rockefeller was in his day. Or executives like Charles Keating Jr., Michael Milken and Ken Lay, who break the law — something of which Soros has never been accused.

Through his philanthropy, Soros has also made extraordinary contributions to this country and around the globe — especially in Eastern Europe. In many ways, he demonstrates what is great and vibrant about America. He is certainly not the only U.S. immigrant to have accumulated a staggering fortune. Nor is he the only wealthy person to create a philanthropy focused on protecting human rights and improving the lot of marginalized communities.

His interest in contributing to politics can’t quite explain it either. There are hundreds of Americans who give in similar or greater amounts to candidates and one or another of the parties. Warren Buffett and the “Google boys” fly in private planes. Bill Gates has created a bigger philanthropy. Vinod Khosla is both an immigrant and, like Soros, an enormously successful capitalist. Oprah Winfrey has built a media empire and is openly supportive of President Barack Obama. So, what is it about Soros?

I don’t know. It might be that he speaks with a pronounced Hungarian accent. Perhaps it's because he’s proven himself smarter than most lions of Wall Street. For example, he foresaw the housing bubble and, unlike almost everyone else in the financial industry who denigrated his concerns, positioned his investments correctly in anticipation of the debacle.

Or maybe it’s because he is passionate about human rights and the plight of immigrants. His Open Society Foundations, for example, focus on the Roma people — marginalized immigrants throughout central Europe, and they have a long commitment to the people of Burma, where a military regime has attacked human rights for many years.

But Soros is somehow viewed as the avatar of evil by intolerant right-wing extremists.

It is about time to call out this baseless criticism for what it is: bullying in its worst form, using an individual for political gain.

Glenn Beck, and his sponsor, Rupert Murdoch, who, like Soros, is an immigrant, may think they have the right to knowingly foster lies about Soros — and Tides, for that matter — though, as we have seen, it can lead extremists to pursue violence.

In most matters in this world, balance returns and those who have pushed the pendulum’s arc in one direction must deal with the fact that it inevitably reverses course.

But I’m scared for Soros. He is lambasted by the likes of Beck more than anyone. As the would-be “assassin” recently indicated, Beck says he doesn’t advocate violence — but Williams is probably not the only unbalanced soul out there who wants to “start the revolution” with an act of violence.

All of us, including Beck, need to take more responsibility for how we speak of others. Especially about those with whom we disagree.

Otherwise, when bad things happen, we share the responsibility. (by Drummond Pike , the founder and chief executive officer of Tides Foundation) http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44343.html as biased a view as the view from the other side, but I have to ask: How much do you or any of us actually KNOW, for fact, about Soros, and how much is the way his name has been used? I'm going to do some research, just for my own edification, before deciding anything.

But back to my problem. My problem is that by playing Six Degrees of Separation, anyone on any side can make up nefarious "connections" to anything they want. I don't necessarily buy it.

As to your feelings, I'm not sure I said anything at all about your feelings, I don't know where you got that idea. I've been discussing facts, as best I can find them. I don't know where you get the "discredit" thing you've now accused me of twice...why can't one disagree without it being an attempt to discredit?

By the way, I don't think I'm defensive, I think I'm angry, mostly that some people immediately reach for something bad to be behind virtually everything--especially anything they don't agree with (again, NOT meaning just you, or even primarily you).

Now I've got to go eat dinner, I've spent WAY too long at this. For me, until I see some kind of VALID proof, and given how it's sprung up so many places on it's own--and yes, it's on its own here, I KNOW that, and I'm sure other places--I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that OWS is astroturf or a conspiracy or anything else. We'll just agree to disagree on that point. Until something VALID proves one of us wrong.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off