Investigation into Clarence Thomas? by Niki2

Oh ho, so folks are finally questioning the practice of bribing Supreme Court Justices via their wives...

Well, this'll get interesting indeed, if anyone actually bothers to investigate beyond obligatory political sabotage, cause don't you know - they're ALL guilty as hell of this, and so far ain't hardly nothing ever been done or said about it.

But it's a VERY common practice, and has been for a while.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, October 3, 2011 7:30 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Clarence's wife is George Bush's cousin.

Helps to have CIA assassins on your side. Things go better with coke.

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Monday, October 3, 2011 8:23 AM

America loves a winner!

Shows just how desperate the Left is getting these days.

Thomas and Herman Cain represent everything in America that left wing blacks say can't happen, and yet, there they are.

Saul Alinsky, 101, again.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, October 3, 2011 10:13 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Shows just how desperate the Left is getting these days.

Thomas and Herman Cain represent everything in America that left wing blacks say can't happen, and yet, there they are.

Saul Alinsky, 101, again.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Marry a white woman, getta job at the "Federal" Reserve Bank. Easy as pizza pie.

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Monday, October 3, 2011 10:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Thomas and Herman Cain represent everything in America that > left wing blacks say can't happen < ..."

I wonder who little Rappy thinks is saying that ... All the blacks I know says blacks can be raciss' against blacks - some even say blacks can be even more raciss' than whites against blacks.
Maybe he's just listening to the voices in his head again.

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, October 3, 2011 11:32 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Thomas and Herman Cain represent everything in America that > left wing blacks say can't happen < ..."

I wonder who little Rappy thinks is saying that ... All the blacks I know says blacks can be raciss' against blacks - some even say blacks can be even more raciss' than whites against blacks.
Maybe he's just listening to the voices in his head again.

Yeah, your reply was pretty nonsensical.

If the Left is going to ignore such nepotism, as w/ Barney Frank, then by raising this issue is nothing less than an attempt to smear the Judge because he dares to be black AND conservative.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, October 3, 2011 12:17 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Hmmm ... still nothing from little Rappy except more opinion. I wonder if he's even acquainted with the idea of a fact?

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, October 3, 2011 2:28 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Thomas and Herman Cain represent everything in America that > left wing blacks say can't happen < ..."

I wonder who little Rappy thinks is saying that ... All the blacks I know says blacks can be raciss' against blacks - some even say blacks can be even more raciss' than whites against blacks.
Maybe he's just listening to the voices in his head again.

Yeah, your reply was pretty nonsensical.

If the Left is going to ignore such nepotism, as w/ Barney Frank, then by raising this issue is nothing less than an attempt to smear the Judge because he dares to be black AND conservative.

So you think it's okay for a judge to take bribes from people whose cases are before his court, as long as he's black and conservative? Or do you just not think we should look into such conduct if said judge is black and conservative? Seems like you're clinging to a double standard.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, October 3, 2011 3:20 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht

I don't understand why his skin color is remotely relevent, because it isn't.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, October 3, 2011 11:56 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I don't understand why his skin color is remotely relevent, because it isn't.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

In this case, it's relevant because he IS a conservative. It's an issue, for the LEFT. They've been trying to trash this guy since he was nominated, with the lying Anita Hill fiasco.

The Left doesn't want this guy elevated, for what he stands for. An accomplished, black conservative, on the highest court in the land ? What next, a conservative black, as President ?

Some would rather die than to allow that to happen. And while they'd try to tell us all that the 'racist' are on the Right, most of them actually are on the Left.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Thomas and Herman Cain represent everything in America that left wing blacks say can't happen, and yet, there they are.

...
.....wheeeeee...right off the deep end....

I should HOPE other blacks would say it couldn't happen: be an ignoramus useful tool for people who put you in power just to do their bidding? You're right, not just left-wing blacks but ALL blacks should hope such things couldn't happen. Of course, they do, constantly, because race has nothing to do with it in that respect...

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the man is a bully. Furthermore, he has written no judicial decisions of note; he is not much more than a "me-too" to Scalia. In a words, the man is a creepy idiot.

I wish there was some other way to test the mental competency and moral fiber of judicial candidates other than by a group of mentally incompetent and morally bankrupt politicians.

Amen Sig.

The truth?

http://www.buzzflash.com/cartoons/03/06/30.html

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:32 AM

Oh I assure you, anyone who makes it far enough to BECOME a judicial candidate is the very scum of the earth.

They start out, many of em, as public defenders, professional dive-takers betraying their so-called clients to the state in hopes that by so prostrating themselves before the power of the state eventually they'll be seen as "loyal" enough to wind up on the OTHER side of the court with the stacked deck.

Then as prosecutors, they're basically handed a crooked game with a stacked deck and zero consequences for any misconduct, and provided they don't have other political aspirations and comply with orders handed down from on-high to fuck over certain people for political points, eventually they wind up a judge...
(notice how guilt or innocence NEVER enters this?)

And then as a judge, they're pretty much a rubber stamp unless someone totally fucks up, I mean it's all decided before they let us peons (and yes, that includes a so-called-jury) in there, the rest is just a dog and pony show to delude us into thinking the system works, a veritable facade for the masses - and most judges are rated by how often they successfully manipulate the evidence and the jury in collusion with the prosecutor to produce a guilty verdict...
And of course, local politics, which as they rise in stature so does the level of influence and the size of the bribes, cause there's not one bloody black robe who's not accepted them - to refuse means being ostracized, cast out, and unsupported by the few agencies supposed to oversee judges, which I can tell you are far more corrupt than the boys in black are, that for damn sure.

And so, by the time you have someone even considered potential for a supreme court judge, they are as corrupt as satan hisself, heavily invested into a system as profoundly unfair and malicious as anything on the planet, and generally seething with personal vices and psychological issues far beyond joe sixpack due to the stress of maintaining the illusion - or they're a damn sociopath, born or learned-behavior, usually the latter cause at the bottom a born sociopath general goes straight into criminal private practice.

But here's where it gets interesting - a buddy of mine and myself have been doing some psych analysis of what HAPPENS after confirmation to the bench for these folks, once ALL accountability is gone.
Now, as per my opinion - the way to tell who someone really is inside, involves removing ALL consequence, positive OR negative, from their behavior and seeing what they do.

Now, initially, they step to the beat of the drum which got them there, out of perhaps a sense of twisted loyalty or partisanship or what have you, but after a while, and it takes some time - they actually become LESS corrupt, the inability to retaliate against them, and advancing awareness of mortality and the simple fact that they'll soon be beyond retaliation wears upon them, and they start lookin at the world around them and how they wanna leave it...

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There comes a time, thief, when the jewels cease to sparkle, when the gold loses its luster, when the throne room becomes a prison, and all that is left is a father's love for his child.
-King Osric

The powers that be know this, and as such, by determined effort they ensure that any potential for that bench is so steeped in corruption, avarice and malice that it will take decades to fade, ensuring many years of compliant service.

The best example of the above phenomenae though, it Rehnquist, all but dead in his chair, grimly hanging onto even life itself by sheer force of will, REFUSING to step down because it would have allowed Bush to appoint some fucking lunatic to the bench to further enable his madness - that this failed due to his untimely death means far less than that he tried, in the end he gave it all for a cause he no longer even believed in.
I can forgive a lot, for such an act.

Anyhows, the notion that supreme court potentials are anything but the scum of the earth is preposterous cause of how the system really works, and pretending otherwise is simply enabling it's brokenness.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:46 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I don't understand why his skin color is remotely relevent, because it isn't.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

In this case, it's relevant because he IS a conservative. It's an issue, for the LEFT. They've been trying to trash this guy since he was nominated, with the lying Anita Hill fiasco.

The Left doesn't want this guy elevated, for what he stands for. An accomplished, black conservative, on the highest court in the land ? What next, a conservative black, as President ?

Some would rather die than to allow that to happen. And while they'd try to tell us all that the 'racist' are on the Right, most of them actually are on the Left.

You keep making the assumption that his skin color has anything to do with it. You, who continually, for years now, have complained about people "playing the race card", have now played it at least a half-dozen times in the last couple weeks. Pretty hilarious in its hypocrisy, that.

I don't care what someone's skin color is. If they're corrupt, I want them investigated.

By your logic, Rappy, the ONLY reason you want Eric Holder investigated is because he's black. That's also why you hate Cynthia McKinney, Barack Obama, and a host of other black people. You - and the entire GOP and all the conservatives in this country - just can't stand to see black people in any kind of position of power or success, right? That's what you accuse "the Left" of, constantly, and what you've displayed more than a few times yourself, even going so far as to claim that it really bugs you that your President is black.

His skin color isn't relevant. His political ideology shouldn't be relevant, either. A corrupt Supreme Court justice should be a concern to every U.S. citizen, and if he's taking money and gifts from people whose cases he's sitting in judgement of, that's a pretty clear conflict of interest.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:50 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Frem, your background, in my opinion, has made you cynical of virtually everything and anyone. I disagree with your theory in this case. I think there are good and bad judges, cops, etc., like all humans; there are some who get into it and give in to weakness and/or are pressured this way or that; and there are STILL good judges, cops, etc., who do their job well.

Mike: This surprises you exctly why (rhetorical question)? Those of us who think have figured this out long ago. But thanx for noting it, for those who might not have noticed.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 11:01 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
In this case, it's relevant because he IS a conservative. It's an issue, for the LEFT. They've been trying to trash this guy since he was nominated, with the lying Anita Hill fiasco.

The Left doesn't want this guy elevated, for what he stands for. An accomplished, black conservative, on the highest court in the land ? What next, a conservative black, as President ?

Some would rather die than to allow that to happen. And while they'd try to tell us all that the 'racist' are on the Right, most of them actually are on the Left.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Frem, your background, in my opinion, has made you cynical of virtually everything and anyone.

*laughs*
Oh gee, YA THINK?!

One thing to note though, despite that cynicism of the system and it's inherent corruption, I am after a fashion pointing out the essential Kropotkinist-Rosseau notion that beneath it all, no matter how deep, most human beings are essentially decent people - which is a far more idealistic belief than most folk would assume of me.

Problem isn't the humans *IN* the system, so much as the system itself being created and managed by sociopaths.
http://www.strike-the-root.com/91/groves/groves1.html

Let's just say that tomorrow imma have to put up with it in a fashion that's made me more snarky than usual about it - but I *do* quite earnestly feel that pretending our justice system isn't a complete facade enables its very brokenness, that's not rhetoric at all.

Also, provided there's time and I don't wind up pitched out on my ear or cooling my heels in slam for a couple hours.. there's gonna be some strong words exchanged downtown over the matter of Aiyana Jones, and prosecuting the ONE DECENT PERSON (Allison) who blew the whistle on the lies and behavior of the police, who (and I posted about this here) ran down and made dissappear the folks who had the original cell phone footage in a guns-blazing chase through the same neighborhood shortly thereafter, over a supposed "traffic violation".. yeah, right, since when does half the department involve a chase and shoot up an entire goddamn neighborhood in the process over a traffic ticket ?
They're also trying to crush the kids father, since they offered the ACTUAL perp (Owens) next best thing to full immunity to get him to testilie and lay all the blame on Aiyanas father as a retaliatory gesture.
Which would all fall apart save that the Judge will very likely try to strike the ABSOLUTE evidence of wrongdoing (i.e. the film, including the cops planning their cover-up) cause of how it was obtained and the charges against Allison.

All so the cops can get away with the negligent homicide of a seven year old girl.

You're damn right I am cynical - but there's a difference between "nothing you can do" cynicism, and "we *will* fix this!" cynicism of the type that puts the boot of public ire straight up the asses of the Worthy - in this case one PARTICULAR Worthy, by the name of Kym.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, October 7, 2011 3:52 PM

Grrr

Oh you'll love this - the supposed "Grand Jury" that allegedly "indicted" Allison ?
One person - whom of course we have no evidence even exists (and there's some evidence I'll not share that indicates they may well not, right up there with the ubiquitous "anonymous informant" scheme...) AND all the documents and evidence are sealed in about as complete a violation of discovery as ever existed.

I find it telling that the Wayne County Prosecutors Office is so hell bent on bringing charges down upon the person who blew the whistle, but trying every trick in the book, legal or not, in order to get that negligent dickhead Weekly (the jerk who fired the shot which killed Aiyana) off the hook - also worth remembering are the plethora of lies and false charges originally against other members of the Jones family in an effort to shift the blame onto them, particularly the grandmother, who WOULD have been charged had it not been for Allisons act of common decency in sneaking out a copy of the footage, again including the cops PLANNING the cover-up, quite blatantly.

And of course, they're willing to let a fucking murderer (Owens) slide, in order to bring further hell down upon Aiyanas father for daring to be upset about the negligent homicide of his daughter, cause they've offered the sumbitch damn near a walkaway in order to pin it all on Aiyanas dad - they'd pin the murder on him if they could, but that runs into the little problem of the witnesses... some of whom have been "encouraged" to shut up or change their story by Wayne County PD.

Fucking star chamber, is what it is...

Not all so evil as that, over here, I was somewhat amused at not being pitched out on my ear because I am an Anarchist, do not believe in the legitimacy of the court, feel that it violates the constitutional requirement for a fair trial, and consider agents of the State to be untrustworthy... not to mention my annoyance at what I feel amounts to gunpoint conscription in order to be held over folks head as a threat against them (and the judge ADMITTED we were there in part to pressure the putative defendants to plea bargain).
After grilling me under oath, despite my comment I'd rather not answer those questions, despite the answers he recieved, the damn judge seats me anyways, stating "Well I presume you have no problem with the basic presumption of innocence, then..." and the DEFENSE attorney throws a hissy and sends me off, it was all I could do not to facepalm - the judge was OBVIOUSLY trying to tank the case (I guess he felt it was bullshit) since by my own statements there's no way in hell I could *possibly* deliver a verdict of guilty if the States trial has failed Constitutional Requirement, and HE KNEW THIS...
And the "defense" attorney then goes and sabotages what would have been a slam-dunk walkaway for his client ?
(Public Defender, obviously, as I said, professional dive-takers)
I consider that somewhere between deliberate negligence and "ineffective assistance of counsel" - the onus to prove guilt is on the State, and the defendant at no time is required to correct errors of the State, no matter how deliberately introduced.

So what we had here is a Judge who WANTED to dismiss the case, who likely felt it was all bullshit but had not the ability to dismiss it outright, trying to follow his conscience in a corrupt system which wouldn't ALLOW him to do the right thing directly - and an attorney SUPPOSED to be *defending* his client subverting that and hanging him out to dry.

Now, the latter I am used to, one reason I find public 'defenders' so despicable - but this is the first time I've seen a Judge actually allow his conscience to be a factor in his administration of the law - which it SHOULD BE, that's WHY we have human Judges instead of machines, so imma be remembering this guy next time we decide at the ballot box who gets or remains on the bench.

Mind you, after being pitched off, I did out of naught more than idle curiosity look over the case, and without sharing details - it *WAS* bullshit, someones designated driver pulled a bonehead move in traffic, and for whatever reason the dickhead cop thought he could shovel a faery story about the guy who was IN THE BACK SEAT THE ENTIRE TIME, supposedly being the one driving the car at the time of the accident, despite statements to the contrary by everyone *but* him, despite airbag residue all over the designated driver - fuck me but that whole matter was a waste of the courts time.
And mine.

American "Justice" at it's finest, grrr.

I did get to see the closest thing to an honest Judge I ever have though, so it wasn't a complete wash.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, October 7, 2011 4:09 PM

America loves a winner!

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Marry a white woman, getta job at the "Federal" Reserve Bank. Easy as pizza pie.

I was unaware that Gloria Cain was white, or that her skin color had anything to do w/ Herman's very extensive and impressive resume'.

Who ARE the racist then, who look at the color of a person's skin, and not the content of their character, and judge them to be genuine or phony ?

You want to talk hypocrisy ? It resides, permanently, with the Left.

Cain has been married for 43 years to Gloria Cain. They have two children and three grandchildren

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I was unaware that Gloria Cain was white, or that her skin color had anything to do w/ Herman's very extensive and impressive resume'.

I was unaware that he was even married, so I guess her skin color never even entered into it for me. I don't find his resumé that impressive, though.

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Who ARE the racist [sic] then, who look at the color of a person's skin, and not the content of their character, and judge them to be genuine or phony ?

You want to talk hypocrisy ? It resides, permanently, with the Left.

Well, the only one I've ever seen post something about it "bugging" them that their President is black, is you.

Are you saying you're a liberal?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 9:49 AM

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Cain has been married for 43 years to Gloria Cain.

Apparently, not any more.

Something about common law bigamy...

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"Cain had not seen his wife since Ginger White, 46, came forward and said she had a sexual affair with Cain that lasted more than a decade. He has said they were only friends but acknowledged that he helped pay her monthly bills and expenses. His wife, Cain said, did not know of the friendship with White."

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 2:09 PM

DREAMTROVE

Nick, nice gif

As for the supreme court, can we end this theocracy already?

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:47 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Niki2:
The letter specifically charges Thomas failed to report nearly $700,000 of income earned by his wife, Virginia Thomas, for her work for the conservative Heritage Foundation from 2003 to 2007.

"Due to the simplicity of the disclosure requirements, along with Justice Thomas's high level of legal training and experience, it is reasonable to infer that his failure to disclose his wife's income for two decades was willful," the lawmakers wrote.

2003 to 2007 is two decades?

But it's be nice if the article specified to whom Mrs. Thomas' income should be reported. If she's a salaried employee of the Heritage Foundation, her income would be reported to the IRS and cross-checked against the Thomases tax returns, so that can't be that.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

ETA: apparently, Justice Thomas amended his disclosure forms in January 2011 to indicate his wife's employment. Per the article, he does not have to report the amount of her compensation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Supreme_Court/justice-clarence-thomas-a
mends-financial-disclosure-reports-virginia/story?id=12750650

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:54 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So you think it's okay for a judge to take bribes from people whose cases are before his court, as long as he's black and conservative?

Well, at least he's not going all homophobic on him, or denying his First Amendment rights.

Wow! And this requires no thought at all. I can see why it appeals to you.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Amazing. Two posts in a row from Geezer where he tries to be clever and ends up posting nothing but meaningless blather. Perhaps the Aricept is no longer working.

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:58 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Amazing. Two posts in a row from Geezer where he tries to be clever and ends up posting nothing but meaningless blather. Perhaps the Aricept is no longer working.

Two? He's been blathering like this for years.

You missed the one where he goes on about how long he's been voting Republican. Dementia and the GOP seem to be a good fit.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:50 PM