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A prominent border militia leader and reputed neo-Nazi is believed to have shot and killed four people before turning a gun on himself following a domestic dispute at a home in a Phoenix suburb, police said on Thursday.

Police believe Jason Todd "J.T." Ready opened fire at a house in Gilbert on Wednesday, killing his girlfriend, her daughter, the daughter's boyfriend and their toddler daughter, then shot himself, Gilbert Police Sergeant Bill Balafas said.

Ready, 39, founded the U.S. Border Guard, a private-citizen militia in Arizona. He said in a posting on the group's website: "We are under attack at this very moment but not by invading troops (yet) or communistic threat ... . What or who is it you ask? Just look around your neighborhoods and your schools. Look at the violence on T.V. Look at the border."

Ready had long-held ties to neo-Nazi groups in the United States, the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center said on their websites.

Police identified the dead as Lisa Lynn Mederos, 47, who they said was Ready's girlfriend; Amber Nieve Mederos, 23; Jim Franklin Hiott, 24; and 15-month-old Lily Lynn Mederos, who was still alive at the scene but later died in a hospital.

Police found the child and the bodies of two of the adults inside the home and those of the other adults outside.

"We feel safe to say that this was a domestic violence issue. There was an argument and this is purely a domestic situation," Balafas said.

At the time of the shooting, a female witness was in the home. Balafas said "she heard arguing, she heard gunshots (and) came through a back bedroom and located the bodies."

Officers recovered two handguns and a shotgun from the scene. Balafas had said late on Wednesday that police had been unable to search the house after an unknown liquid was found in two 55-gallon (208-litre) drums outside the house.

The FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force had joined the investigation after "military grade munitions and ordnance" were found at the crime scene, Balafas said.

Amber Mederos worked at a nearby Wendy's restaurant, and was reported to be in the process of moving out of her mother's home because of tensions with Ready, who also lived there.

Her final posting on Facebook on Tuesday evening read: "Time to get the drama out of (my) life and make a better life for me my daughter and my love."

A profile of Ready by the nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center said he had attended neo-Nazi gatherings in Nebraska and Phoenix, and railed against Jews and "Negroid immigration" in white nationalist online forums.

He also advocated deadly force to stop Mexicans from crossing into the United States illegally, and favored laying a minefield along the U.S. border, the center said.

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He was a militia member, a neo-Nazi, a hard-right ideologue, and a firm believer in "just one more gun" solving every problem.

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Sounds like domestic violence. Anyone we know here losing their partner and can't deal with it, or think someone's cheating on them?

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Sounds like domestic violence. Anyone we know here losing their partner and can't deal with it, or think someone's cheating on them?

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I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Are you suggesting there are people here you think would commit a murder suicide like this?

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Sounds like domestic violence. Anyone we know here losing their partner and can't deal with it, or think someone's cheating on them?

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I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Are you suggesting there are people here you think would commit a murder suicide like this?

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Hey, if it's good enough for Kwicko to point fingers at folks on this board, why shouldn't Geezer have some fun?

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The former editor of Guns & Ammo magazine was accused of murdering a friend with a gun and ammo in Golden Valley, Arizona on Wednesday.

Mohave County sheriff’s charged 53-year-old Richard Erick Venola with second-degree murder for the killing 39-year-old James Patrick O’Neill, who was found dead at the scene.

Sheriff department spokeswoman Trish Carter told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that Venola shot O’Neill in the chest with a “high-caliber” rifle and at least three weapons were removed from the scene. O’Neill was visiting the former Guns & Ammo editor’s house at the time.


Detective Larry Matthews wrote in his report that Venola seemed to be intoxicated by the time he talked to officers. Neighbors told deputies that the the suspect was having “heavy words” with O’Neill.

“Mr. Venola came over to the neighbors carrying a rifle and stated he just killed a man,” according to the report. “Mr. Venola acknowledged he killed the man, but didn’t say why.”

According to the Guns & Ammo website, Venola became the 12th editor of the magazine in 2007. He had served as the associate editor of RifleShooter magazine since 2004 after being honorably discharged from the Marine Corps in 1996.

After President Barack Obama took office in 2009, Venola used his position as editor to warn readers that they should join his “largest business competitor,” the National Rifle Association (NRA), or “those in the new administration who drool at the chance of neutering the Second Amendment will become emboldened.”

Guns & Ammo spokeswoman Amy Sorrells told the Journal-Review that the former editor continued contribute as a writer. The magazine has also said that his 2010 departure as editor was “amicable.”

Venola was booked at Mohave County Jail. Bond was set at $100,000 by Justice of the Peace Rick Lambert.

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Aaaaaannnnnd yet another loverly man-loves-gun story from Arizona:

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Aaaaaannnnnd yet another loverly man-loves-gun story from Arizona:

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Is this a cry for help, Mike? If you want to get rid of your guns, I'll take them.

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It's more a tongue-in-cheek response to all the "Man with gun stops crime" posts that seem to be popping up. Sometimes the guy with the gun ISN'T the hero; sometimes he's just a douche canoe with a hatful of hate and more mental bacon than his pan can handle.

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Also, when I say I'm the angriest man on the internet, I mean that *ON THE INTERNET* I'm the angriest man around. In real life, I'm quite Zen and unperturbed. My boss gets upset with me because I don't get more upset.

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Also, when I say I'm the angriest man on the internet, I mean that *ON THE INTERNET* I'm the angriest man around. In real life, I'm quite Zen and unperturbed. My boss gets upset with me because I don't get more upset.

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Glad we can provide you with therapy. The bill's in the mail.

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It's more a tongue-in-cheek response to all the "Man with gun stops crime" posts that seem to be popping up.

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Something ought to be done but what?
Make getting a license to own a gun harder than getting a license to drive a car?

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How can we preserve the 2nd amendment and still prevent death by gun foolishness?

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