Bath salts....Fizzzz goes your brain! by Wishimay

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Someone's always going to be chasing the Bigger Better Buzz. Think I'll stick with Murphy's Stout.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:58 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

Man, people do some really idiotic stuff, has the state worn off of the guy found in the woods yet?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:06 AM

China and the Netherlands.

But yeah, some people are smoking them to use as recreational drugs, and yes, it's dangerous.

Yet more SVOCs and VOCs that are toxic. Intoxication, from TOXIC, means the substance damages cells, means BAD FOR YOU.

There aren't laws on the books but they can still charge you with a DUI or drunk and disorderly, especially if they get a confession out of you that you took anything.

There's also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabis

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:02 AM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Man, people do some really idiotic stuff, has the state worn off of the guy found in the woods yet?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

Yes, and summarily fired...which I'm thrilled about. One less idiot workin' around my husband.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:11 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Man, people do some really idiotic stuff, has the state worn off of the guy found in the woods yet?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

Yes, and summarily fired...which I'm thrilled about. One less idiot workin' around my husband.

Wait a minute - was he doing this stuff at work, or on his own time? And if it's the latter and not the former, and if it's a "legal" thing to have and use, then should he be fired from his job for doing something not illegal on his own time?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:30 AM

I think the "naked and covered in blood" part of the story might have a role in the "illegal and fired" thing.

But we'd need more information.

Besides, depending on the job, it's not like people haven't been fired for entirely legal activities outside of work. Example: don't drink a lot at a wild party and facebook about it, especially if your employer is very strict about image.

We can argue whether that's right or wrong, and I'd say that it's probably an infringement on the employee's privacy, but that doesn't remove the precedence for termination.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

I would be completely fine with the company firing him, even if he wasn't doing it at work. that stuff takes away from your ability to focus and do your job well, so if he's working at a mine he needs to be focused and attentive and paying attention to his job, for his own safety and for the safety of his comrades because mine work can be dangerous. So I side with Wish on this one, thank goodness that's one less irresponsable person working around her husband. His irresponsability comes from choices _he made to ... snort? ... eat? ... injest? bathsalts. that's just stupidity.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:06 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think the "naked and covered in blood" part of the story might have a role in the "illegal and fired" thing.

But we'd need more information.

We'd definitely need more information. Naked in the woods, covered in animal blood. I can imagine there are places where this is not only legal, but part of some coming-of-age ritual, similar to a hunter being "blooded" with his first kill.

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Besides, depending on the job, it's not like people haven't been fired for entirely legal activities outside of work. Example: don't drink a lot at a wild party and facebook about it, especially if your employer is very strict about image.

We can argue whether that's right or wrong, and I'd say that it's probably an infringement on the employee's privacy, but that doesn't remove the precedence for termination.

Yes, it happens. Does that make it right? Warrantless wiretaps happen; warrantless searches happen; a state supreme court even says you don't have the right to defend yourself if the cops kick in your door by mistake, but must meekly comply, or die.

Are any of those things remotely "right"?

Are even the so-called libertarians here now endorsing firing people for participating in what may well be legal activities?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:29 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

I think Byte meant that it happens, not that she agrees or disagrees with it.

I've never claimed to be a Libertarian, I'm not, so I can believe whatever I want/say whatever I want.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:43 PM

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Are even the so-called libertarians here now endorsing firing people for participating in what may well be legal activities?

Jeezy Peezy! Do people NOT read all of my posts?! They're not that long!

What do you think I was meaning when I said "it's probably an invasion of privacy"?!

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
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Are even the so-called libertarians here now endorsing firing people for participating in what may well be legal activities?

Jeezy Peezy! Do people NOT read all of my posts?! They're not that long!

What do you think I was meaning when I said "it's probably an invasion of privacy"?!

Byte: Sorry, my bad - I missed that part.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:55 PM

It's okay. I had a long day complete with public transportation shenanigans and I'm hungry. Going to go attend to one of those things now.

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Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:54 AM

WISHIMAY

Dear god, he's got his job back...after a 30 day "suspension" for "unrelated matters"

Company letter...you are no longer responsible for drug dependancy disorders.
Let's not hold anybody responsible for their screwups...can't do that...

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Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:31 PM