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Motor dysgraphia is due to deficient fine motor skills, poor dexterity, poor muscle tone, or unspecified motor clumsiness. Motor dysgraphia may be part of the larger problem of motor apraxia. Generally, written work is poor to illegible, even if copied by sight from another document. Letter formation may be acceptable in very short samples of writing, but this requires extreme effort and an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish, and cannot be sustained for a significant length of time. Writing long passages is extremely painful and cannot be sustained. Letter shape and size becomes increasingly inconsistent and illegible. Writing is often slanted due to holding a pen or pencil incorrectly. Spelling skills are not impaired. Finger tapping speed results are below normal.

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Many people who are dysgraphic experience pain while writing. The pain usually starts in the center of the forearm and then spreads along the nervous system to the entire body. This pain can get worse or even appear when a dysgraphic is stressed. Few people who do not have dysgraphia know about this, because many with dysgraphia will not mention it to anyone. There are a few reasons why pain while writing is rarely mentioned:

Sufferers do not know that it is unusual to experience this type of pain with writing.
If they know that it is different from how others experience writing, they feel that few will believe them.
Those who do not believe that the pain while writing is real will often not understand it. It will usually be attributed to muscle ache or cramping, and it will often be considered only a minor inconvenience.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I fucking hate Cursive.

You have to understand, back in the 70's school systems were FAR less understanding of various neuro based problems, as I recall the "treatment" for Dyslexia was severely abusive, and so on.

And learning, decades later, by accident, that it wasn't just me, that the hell I suffered for this didn't have to happen, enraged me beyond all sense, resulting in the berserk destruction of most of my office and a drinking binge that ended in unconsciousness....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerstmann_syndrome

Never heard of it ?
Hell, neither did I, till the scan I had to sit through after that apparent mild stroke turned up anomolies related to it, and suddenly everything made sense.

Inability to perform higher math functions regardless of practice/education...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia
Ambidexterity and poor sense of direction (other cabbies called me "Wrongway" since I needed a compass).
And... Disgraphia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Bear in mind, back then, we were GRADED on handwriting quality, in cursive - and not performing up to spec resulted in a deluge of "writing assignments" (the very TERM causes me to wince, even now) of copying long strings of text, over and over and over...

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Motor dysgraphia is due to deficient fine motor skills, poor dexterity, poor muscle tone, or unspecified motor clumsiness. Motor dysgraphia may be part of the larger problem of motor apraxia. Generally, written work is poor to illegible, even if copied by sight from another document. Letter formation may be acceptable in very short samples of writing, but this requires extreme effort and an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish, and cannot be sustained for a significant length of time. Writing long passages is extremely painful and cannot be sustained. Letter shape and size becomes increasingly inconsistent and illegible. Writing is often slanted due to holding a pen or pencil incorrectly. Spelling skills are not impaired. Finger tapping speed results are below normal.

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Of course, the pain, the suffering, was passed off as me lying, malingering, and just being lazy.
As were the math difficulties, but that for another day.

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Many people who are dysgraphic experience pain while writing. The pain usually starts in the center of the forearm and then spreads along the nervous system to the entire body. This pain can get worse or even appear when a dysgraphic is stressed. Few people who do not have dysgraphia know about this, because many with dysgraphia will not mention it to anyone. There are a few reasons why pain while writing is rarely mentioned:

Sufferers do not know that it is unusual to experience this type of pain with writing.
If they know that it is different from how others experience writing, they feel that few will believe them.
Those who do not believe that the pain while writing is real will often not understand it. It will usually be attributed to muscle ache or cramping, and it will often be considered only a minor inconvenience.

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Minor inconvenience, yeah, when involuntary tears of pain stream down your face, and you're called a crybaby and a liar, and not only retaliated against for this inability by the teachers, said teachers encourage other kids to aggress against you as well...

You cannot *IMAGINE* the rage I felt upon learning this, the pure, bitter HATRED of them, their ignorance, their refusal to accept that there really was a problem there.
And folks wonder why I had such tremendous issues with authority as a kid, bah.

Hell, even now, with that most recent illness - all but one of the damn docs ignored everything I tried to tell em, which I expected, and plotted around, but that kinda hostility, and the root of it...
Lets just say I understand Lizbeth Salander better than any of you ever will.

Anyhows, I hate, hate, hated cursive, and I hated writing ANYTHING by hand, still do - I saved my pennies and bought a Dot Matrix Printer for my Tandy CoCo and used that, despite being docked a full grade on every assignment I used it for, or in one case, the summer school teacher assigned to me for Speech I - which I had to "make up" despite having NEVER failed a class in my life since they kept changing the credit requirements out from under me... flat would NOT accept printed-out work, which lead to the argument in the library where I verbally and utterly *BROKE* the lady, she made the mistake of giving *ME* the life-is-hard speech, little miss suburbanite from her goddamn gated community, so I let her HAVE it, steamrollered her totally and left her bawling her head off - to which she sniffled that I'd never darken the doorstep of her class again, and I told her to fucking DEAL with it, cause I'd be back tomorrow.
Which, I not only was, the class offered a standing ovation when I walked in, glared at her and sat down.
She told me not to bother doing any work (I did it anyway) completely refused to acknowlege my existence, and passed me with a C-, irrespective of anything I did from that point.

That was one of the many, MANY things which caused me to walk out and exploit various loopholes to get a GED at sixteen and bypass two more years of bullshit, especially since I would have had to fill out a *wince*... "writing assignment* in order to graduate normally, and the handwriting WOULD be graded, versus the GED being a multiple choice bubble-form at the time.

Ironically, I didn't dislike calligraphy when one teacher offered it in art class, and actually kind of enjoyed it when sensei pushed it on me as something a Bushi should know, although he found most of my haiku laughably awful (so bad it's good).
I think they should merge Cursive and Calligraphy into one form under Art, in order to preserve it, rather than discarding it entirely though.

FYI - I do hand-write the hourly reports, in a kind of scribble-shorthand folks only understand cause they already know what it says - anything more, like incident reports, is typed, printed and double-copied both for legal reasons and cause subjecting folks to my handwriting is kind of unfair to both ends of the deal.

Oh, and did I mention I really, REALLY HATE Cursive ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Why the hell should we be signing contracts drafted up by some evil soul-sucking lawyer? Or joining a credit card company? Or putting our identification out there for the government to run through their facial profiling machines?

And if someone can't read letters just on a slant and vaguely connected, they're probably not too bright.

Cursive still sucks, and now I think it is a gateway drug to government and corporate abuse!

Thanks PN!

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Originally posted by piratenews:
What a bunch of retards! You prefer speaking Spainish, Chinese, Porn? Since when is signing your name, or reading other peoples signatures on things like CHECKS and CONTRACTS, not important?

Just because some people cannot walk or run, walking and running should be banned in skools and in public?

What happens when a nation cannot read its own Constitution and Declartion of Independence? Besides the Commies celebrating May Day every day in USA.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I fucking hate Cursive.

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