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The birth of "Skeet-gate"

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Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:57 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that trace back in this country for generations, and I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake" said President Obama.

Responding to a question about whether he had ever fired a gun: "Yes, in fact up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time."

While his teenage daughters haven't partaken in skeet shooting - a sport where participants fire shotguns to break airborne clay disks - he has brought guests with him, he said in the interview. He said that he has "a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that trace back in this country for generations. And I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake." The remarks especially fired up some conservative blogs and news outlets.

Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tennessee, joined a chorus of skeptics who questioned President Barack Obama's recent comments about his hobby of skeet shooting. "If he is a skeet shooter, why have we not heard of this? Why have we not seen photos? Why hasn't he referenced this at any point in time?" Blackburn said Monday on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront". "We had this debate that is ongoing," Blackburn said. "You would have thought it would have been a point of reference."

Pressed as to whether there was a photograph of the president taking part in the sport, Carney said "There may be, but I haven't seen it". Carney added, "When he goes to Camp David, he goes to spend time with his family and friends and relax, not to produce photographs.”

The White House on Saturday released a photo of President Barack Obama shooting skeet last August, backing up a claim he made in a recent interview that some Republicans questioned.


Camp David on August 4, 2012, President Obama's 51st birthday

Reaction from the right:

--WaPo's "Fact Checker":
Quote:
We are pleased the White House has become more forthcoming about this matter, though it does not quite answer the questions concerning the president’s “all the time” language. A reader notes that because Obama said he does skeet shooting “all the time,” perhaps our standard of proof should be higher--such as several photographs. That’s a reasonable point. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-white-houses
-curious-silence-about-obamas-claim-of-skeet-shooting/2013/01/30/be78bb10-6b35-11e2-95b3-272d604a10a3_blog.html
(In the end they did, however, "award the president a Geppetto Checkmark".)

--"National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam reacted to the photo, telling CNN, "One picture does not erase a lifetime of supporting every gun ban and every gun control scheme imaginable." (Was Obama trying to? He said he shot skeet, they questioned it, a photo was released. How are the two related?)

--On Twitter:
Quote:
On August 4th, president Obama played golf in DC and shot skees in MA. Anyone dumb enough to believe this is dumb enough to get fooled by anyone - http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/04/us-usa-obama-birthday-idUSBR
E8730F820120804

Response on Twitter: According to the link you provided (You did read it, didn’t you?) he played golf at Andrews Air Force Base before “taking Marine One to Maryland’s (not Massachusetts) Catoctin Mountains (location of Camp David) in the afternoon.” Flying time to Camp David from Andrews? The distance is 80 miles. Minutes? Now….what was your point?
(That twit-er sounds as unable to read facts as our own Rap!)

--This morning the White House released a photo of President Obama skeet shooting to prove his claim that yes, he does skeet shoot. That picture prompted David Plouffe to tweet with glee, “Attn skeet birthers. Make our day – let the photoshop conspiracies begin!” The boys over at Breitbart are complying, leading with headlines like
Quote:
Media Follows Obama’s Orders to Mock Skeet-Gate Skeptics

Today the White House released a photo that purports to show Obama (love that tucked-in shirt) shooting skeet last August. Except… he's shooting straight ahead, which means that there's either a barn door somewhere in need of some patching, or Obama is such an awesome skeet shooter, he hits them as they come out of the firing device.

I keed, I keed. There are legitimate reasons that would explain the angle of his gun, but....Because the photo is odd, some are asking perfectly legitimate questions. But not the media. What did the media do? Because the media no longer questions or is skeptical of Power, and instead sees its role as protector of The State, the media mocked those who were skeptical.

You see, the media is proud to publicly proclaim that it doesn’t matter if Obama lies. No, really. How depressing to know a White House reporter at a major news outlet doesn't give a "rat's a**" if the president of the United States is lying. The media and the state are now one. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/02/02/Media-Immediately-F
ollows-White-House-Orders-%20to-Mock-Skeet-Gate-Skeptics
(Thereby proving Breitbart is exactly as asinine as expected to be--and you can be sure Rap will be right in to agree with them!)

--From Conservative Underground:
Quote:
Now, according to Fox News, sources close to the White House are saying the following: This has only happened with the president at Camp David, at most, a couple of times, according to a source who says he has been to the retreat on a half-dozen visits with Obama. “The only time he shot skeet was for President’s Cup,” said the source, referring to a shooting competition tradition involving the presidential Marine guards. “I was there. He stayed for about five minutes, and couldn’t leave fast enough.” Lots and lots and LOTS more there--Rap would love it, please DO go there for a while, it'll keep you out of our hair and you can have a ball without your like-thinking idjits! http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?54592-S
keetgate-Obama-lied
(Is anyone surprised FauxNews only claims "sources"?)

My point: This is the impulse when you’ve bought wholesale into the demonization of this Democratic president. There is no assumption of goodwill or even the minimum amount of credulity that is normally extended to a fellow citizen, let alone to a twice-elected president. Common sense is set aside: if a skeet-shooting range is in place at Camp David, Obama must have ordered it destroyed or let it gather dust for ideological reasons. The idea that he might actually enjoy occasionally shooting clay pigeons as sport just doesn’t fit the mental script that sees him as rabidly anti-gun and considers the Obamas something other than full-fledged Americans.

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Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, but he said "all the time" - and clearly he doesn't spend 24/7 shooting skeet.


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Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:32 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ay-yup! I suppose it wouldn't have mattered if there had been an entire photo album of him skeet shooting, but it's rather kind, in a way, that there's only one photo and that he DID say "all the time". Just think how much harder they'd have had to search, and stretch, and quibble, if they hadn't been given those two things to chew on! That would really have been unkind, making them work so hard...



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Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:59 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




No guns allowed for the Little People.

But black jews with a $1.5-Billion annual checking accounts can murder millions.












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Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:05 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Obama shot Skeet Ulrich? Jeez! He was so good in Scream.

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Monday, February 4, 2013 4:11 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


President Obama has shot a shotgun. Wow! So is he going to drop his support of a ban on the sale of certain semi-automatic rifles or certain magazines to law-abiding citizens?

But the bigger issue here is whether CNN Political Ticker is going to go after Niki for plagiarizing two of its articles without attribution in her opening paragraphs.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Monday, February 4, 2013 5:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

But the bigger issue here is whether CNN Political Ticker is going to go after Niki for plagiarizing two of its articles without attribution in her opening paragraphs.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Irony: Geezer whinging about plagiarism and using an unattributed quote as his signature.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 4, 2013 7:06 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

But the bigger issue here is whether CNN Political Ticker is going to go after Niki for plagiarizing two of its articles without attribution in her opening paragraphs.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Irony: Geezer whinging about plagiarism and using an unattributed quote as his signature.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."


One must have a modicum of integrity to notice such disparity - which explains grampa's obliviousness...




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, February 4, 2013 7:38 AM

PENQUIN11


I love it when news media comments on something as stupid as this. I mean, its not like there is anything else going on in the world right?
And also, what the hell is with all the crazy people I see on these forums? Piratenews, Rap, and god knows there are more. Did this show attract loonies?

"But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it the most?"- Mark Twain

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Monday, February 4, 2013 7:58 AM

BYTEMITE


The show had a very broad spectrum appeal. You will see plenty of people on these boards who argue the show is liberal, conservative, libertarian, or anarchist.

Some of the crazy you see is something like a partisan allergic reaction - the more members of two opposing parties have to interact, the more they respond to the other point of view like a horrible pestilence of some kind. Some of them express themselves better under this affliction than others.

PN, however, is unique. He's something like a board pet because the board wouldn't be the same without his antics. PN is like the crayon scribbles on the stairwell of the Fireflyfans board, they've been there so long they kinda just BELONG there, and you can't imagine it any other way.

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Monday, February 4, 2013 8:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
President Obama has shot a shotgun. Wow! So is he going to drop his support of a ban on the sale of certain semi-automatic rifles or certain magazines to law-abiding citizens?




Should he drop his opposition to the sale of certain nuclear weapons as well? Has he called for a ban on the sale of shotguns, or called for all shotguns to be outlawed and/or confiscated?


Or are you just getting really, really, really desperate?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 4, 2013 9:45 AM

HERO


Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that trace back in this country for generations, and I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake" said President Obama.

Responding to a question about whether he had ever fired a gun: "Yes, in fact up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time."

He's a black man who was living in Chicago...yes, he's fired a gun.

Stupid question.

What he didn't mention was that 'Skeet' was the name of a drug dealer who used to sell on the corner near his house...

Naturally I say that with profound respect for the Office of the Presidency and African Americans in general. I think its nice to see someone at that level of govt shooting a gun and not hitting their friends in the face. From the picture Obama is taking careful aim at...something, and that's the first positive change I've seen him bring to the office.

I'm interested in what kind of shotgun he's using and if its a semi-automatic, as many skeet shooters use (my brother in law has a nice one), then will it be on the ban list?

I also demand to see his background check application so we can see if he lists Kenya as his place of birth...ok, seriously, I think we need to know if he was given a background check before purchasing the weapon. I'd also like to know what kind of firearms instructions he's had. Naturally if he did not purchase the gun it raises questions like 'whose gun is it', 'was it a gift and if so doesn't it fall under the gift laws and who gave it', and finally, 'does the President, now or in the past, own any guns and if so what kind and where are they located'.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Monday, February 4, 2013 10:02 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
I think its nice to see someone at that level of govt shooting a gun and not hitting their friends in the face.


Nice one.

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Monday, February 4, 2013 11:07 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Irony: Geezer whinging about plagiarism and using an unattributed quote as his signature.


If you can provide the name of the author, I'll cite it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Monday, February 4, 2013 12:23 PM

STORYMARK


Because Google is just too complicated for Grampa to use all on his lonesome...




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, February 4, 2013 3:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Irony: Geezer whinging about plagiarism and using an unattributed quote as his signature.


If you can provide the name of the author, I'll cite it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Asking others to do your work for you? Are you one of those 47% leeches that the right keeps blathering about?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 4, 2013 4:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Of course the conspiracy nuts are going to come out of the woodwork. They always do.




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Monday, February 4, 2013 4:48 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:

I'm interested in what kind of shotgun he's using and if its a semi-automatic, as many skeet shooters use (my brother in law has a nice one), then will it be on the ban list?



It isn't a semi-automatic. Looks to be a Browning over-under "Citori" break-action model.

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Monday, February 4, 2013 4:56 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


"Not now Diddums, I'm shooting skeet"
:)))))

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 4, 2013 6:42 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Good to know Hussein Obama can shoot a black-powder musket, according to the same folks who photoshopped his 'birth receipt'.



Quote:
"I'm Barack Obama, the Marxist professor. I spent the last two years of high school in a daze. I drank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically. Look I uh, when I was a kid , I inhaled, frequently. that was uh, that was the point. Pot helped, and booze. A little blow when you could afford it. Junkie, pothead, that's where I was headed. Now you know that guy ain't shit. Sorry ass motherfuckers got nothin on me, nothin. Shit's gettin way too complicated for me. There are white folks, then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you. You can put lipstick on a pig. You ain't my bitch nigger, buy your own damn fries. That's just how white folks will do ya."
-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro, Dreams From My Father MP3
http://www.archive.org/details/ObamaInauguralMashup/





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Monday, February 4, 2013 7:29 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Good thing Obama's gun don't have any kick -- kickless gunpowder!





Why do gun-grabbers always shoot guns?







Hollywood fires blanks -- that's why Obama's gun don't kick.

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Monday, February 4, 2013 7:38 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Then JFK was shot dead in the head in front of a police station and FBI office, by the CIA and Pentagon's Operation Northwoods.


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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:31 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Irony: Geezer whinging about plagiarism and using an unattributed quote as his signature.


If you can provide the name of the author, I'll cite it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Asking others to do your work for you? Are you one of those 47% leeches that the right keeps blathering about?


So you couldn't find a name to attribute it to.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:50 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
[So you couldn't find a name to attribute it to.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."


https://mobile.twitter.com/SarahMEden/status/279736809968267264

That took all of two seconds.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:38 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
President Obama has shot a shotgun. Wow! So is he going to drop his support of a ban on the sale of certain semi-automatic rifles or certain magazines to law-abiding citizens?

But the bigger issue here is whether CNN Political Ticker is going to go after Niki for plagiarizing two of its articles without attribution in her opening paragraphs.



" Is this where I can get me a huntin license ? " - John Kerry

Yes, Niki. The President is down w/ the little people, and then his office dares folks to photo shop this pic. Why ? Because EVERYONE knows this President never shoots skeet while up at Camp David, or anywhere. So when the WH released that ONE photo, clearly taken as recently as last week, to claim that he ALWAYS loves to shoot up there, no one w/ above a room temp IQ believes it, for a second.

Funny, why no pics from before, when his hair wasn't turning so gray ?

Soon, Barry will be claiming multiple holes-in-one on the golf course, just like Kim Il Sung.

The WH says don't photo shop ?

We the people say... YES WE CAN!

Enjoy - http://www.buzzfeed.com/bennyjohnson/this-is-what-the-internet-does-to
-a-photo-of-obama





"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:56 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

So you couldn't find a name to attribute it to.


So I didn't look for a name to attribute it to.

It's your sig; do your homework and give credit to the author, or at least man up and admit that you plagiarized it by posting it without attribution. That was what you were bitching about, right? You were busy being a pedantic twit with Niki for not posting attribution, while you yourself hypocritically do the exact same thing. And then you decide you want to get pissy with others for not going out and doing your due diligence for you.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:


So when the WH released that ONE photo, clearly taken as recently as last week...





I'm going to go out on a limb, so to speak, but it seems to me that the trees in the background tend to look a bit different in January than they do in the summer. More... green, more... leafy, it seems.


But please don't let that get in the way of your latest batshit conspiracy theory.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:11 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


1 photo released, Kwickie.

Date listed is Aug, 2012.

How long as this gun issue been on Barry's agenda ? Since well before Fast and Furious.

You get bent over minutia all you want. The REAL issue is too big for your brain to comprehend, anyways. I understand. I really do.

It's who you have shown yourself to be, and who you are.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:32 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

clearly taken as recently as last week...



Quote:
Later posted by AURaptor:

Date listed is Aug, 2012.



Yep, once again, you show us who you are.

A fuckin' moron.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

Yep, once again, you show us who you are.

A fuckin' moron.


Really ? How so.

Because the heart of the issue is Barry shooting a gun ( skeet shooting, at a horizontal pose ) , why ?

What's the purpose of this pic being released ?

Or if it's a Democrat in the WH, you blindly believe every damn thing the Press Sec says, and if it's a Republican, you completely dismiss it, out of hand?

CAN you even have an adult conversation, over anything ?

Just curious.


( Also, the above pic shows Calvin Coolidge AIMING his gun, where as Obama is clearly FIRING his gun, at a level stance.

Not exactly equivalent for comparison. Maybe if Barry had released more pics, since he's ALWAYS shooting...

)



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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:53 AM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
1 photo released, Kwickie.

Date listed is Aug, 2012.



So "clearly" not last week, eh?


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You get bent over minutia all you want. The REAL issue is too big for your brain to comprehend, anyways. I understand. I really do.



Please proceed. What is the REAL issue, in your estimation? And how long are you right-wing whackos going to spend on a picture while you're supposedly so concerned about "the REAL issue"?




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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:54 AM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Yep, once again, you show us who you are.

A fuckin' moron.




CAN you even have an adult conversation, over anything ?




He can, but only with an adult. Guess that's why you're left out.

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 6:56 AM

KWICKO

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Because the heart of the issue is Barry shooting a gun ( skeet shooting, at a horizontal pose ) , why ?

( Also, the above pic shows Calvin Coolidge AIMING his gun, where as Obama is clearly FIRING his gun, at a level stance.




How many times have you gone skeet shooting?


You do realize how it works, right?



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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Guess that leaves you out as well. Adults don't sink to the level of children when trying to have an adult conversation.


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So when the WH released that ONE photo, clearly taken as recently as last week, to claim that he ALWAYS loves to shoot up there, no one w/ above a room temp IQ believes it, for a second.


I said AS recently, if we're to believe that really is Camp David. But the bigger point is that the President is making a claim that he ALWAYS shoots, while in fact, the photo is one taken recently, showing his graying hair.

This issue of guns has been long in Obama's 'to do' list, and yet the photo is less than 6 months old.

He's the one making this an issue, not the GOP.


And if you're asking me how guns work, the loud end points away from your face, right ?


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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:29 AM

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Right wingers just can't handle the fact that liberals enjoy shooting also. It does not fit into the right wing delustion of what a liberal is.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:58 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Right wingers just can't handle the fact that liberals enjoy shooting also. It does not fit into the right wing delustion of what a liberal is.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.


Well, there's that, and their insanely obsessive fixation on finding ANYTHING they think they can drumb up into a scandal to bring down the scary black guy - no matter how patently stupid - they'll grab on with both hands and ride it as long and hard as they can.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

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"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:20 PM

KWICKO

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I go shooting fairly often. I also support commonsense regulations on guns. Those are not contradictory positions, any more than wanting commonsense traffic laws makes you a hypocrite for driving a car.

For the president to be a hypocrite on this issue, you'd probably need to have a picture of him shooting up a school with a drum-fed assault rifle. A non-photoshopped picture, I mean. ;)



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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:23 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And if you're asking me how guns work, the loud end points away from your face, right ?



I was asking if you know how skeet shooting works. Clearly you don't, so maybe you're not the go-to gal when it comes to telling us all whether or not he's doing it wrong.



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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Right wingers just can't handle the fact that liberals enjoy shooting also. It does not fit into the right wing delustion of what a liberal is.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.


No, it's just right-wingers can't handle the fact that Libs enjoy shooting, but want to take the guns away from everyone else.

Kinda like how they send their kids to exclusive, private schools, but are against school voucher programs.

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:51 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
And if you're asking me how guns work, the loud end points away from your face, right ?



I was asking if you know how skeet shooting works. Clearly you don't, so maybe you're not the go-to gal when it comes to telling us all whether or not he's doing it wrong.


Not being a gal, not sure what your point is. Are you saying women can't be trusted w/ guns, or are you telling us more about your gender identity issues than we need to know ?



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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:55 PM

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In related news Russian KGB president Vlad The Impaler Putin goes hunting for paintballs:



And this week for the FIRST TIME the US Supreme Court agrees to look at evidence that Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro forged his computer-generated "birth recept" (admittedly born before computers were invented).


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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:22 PM

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I don't know what that is but I want one.

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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:59 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Right wingers just can't handle the fact that liberals enjoy shooting also. It does not fit into the right wing delustion of what a liberal is.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.


No, it's just right-wingers can't handle the fact that Libs enjoy shooting, but want to take the guns away from everyone else.


Can you show me the legislation that would "take the guns away from everyone" who isn't a "Lib"?

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Kinda like how they send their kids to exclusive, private schools, but are against school voucher programs.


So is your problem with people who can afford it sending their kids to private schools, or is it that you think the government should pay for EVERY kid to go to expensive private schools?



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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:08 AM

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So you couldn't find a name to attribute it to.


So I didn't look for a name to attribute it to.


I did. There is no individual's name associated with that quote, that I can find. Howard Tayler (author of the webcomic Schlock Mercenary) noted it as something a friend's daughter said, but didn't include the daughter's name.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 3:10 AM

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[So you couldn't find a name to attribute it to.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."


https://mobile.twitter.com/SarahMEden/status/279736809968267264

That took all of two seconds.


And the name of Sarah Eden's nine year old is?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:16 AM

M52NICKERSON

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And the name of Sarah Eden's nine year old is?


I don't know, but I bet she is not as dense as you can be.


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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:44 AM

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Can you show me the legislation that would "take the guns away from everyone" who isn't a "Lib"?

I note for the record that the majority of criminals I deal with are Liberals. Second most common are Libertarians. The rest are Moderates or Conservatives when they start the criminal process, Liberals while they are in the system, then emerger as Moderates on most issues.

H

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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 9:50 AM

KWICKO

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Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Can you show me the legislation that would "take the guns away from everyone" who isn't a "Lib"?

I note for the record that the majority of criminals I deal with are Liberals. Second most common are Libertarians. The rest are Moderates or Conservatives when they start the criminal process, Liberals while they are in the system, then emerger as Moderates on most issues.




Thanks for answering a question that literally nobody here asked, but what does that have to do with the question I did ask?



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