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Elections; 2024

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 6:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see that SECOND and THUGR hate... absolutely hate!... Republicans.

Unless they're corrupt, lying warmongers and mass murderers.

Them, they like.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

Signym, I think no Republicans function like they are sane, responsible, trustworthy adults. But ex-Vice President Dick Cheney does have a point when he says he won't vote for Trump because Trump tried and failed to steal the election in 2020. Cheney is not a responsible, trustworthy person, but he is not stupid, unlike the average Texas Trumptard I am familiar with. I know thousands of those dimwits, all of whom are certain they are smart.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 6:15 AM

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If Trumptards weren’t what they are they’d realize Trump is crazy:

Trump vows to go after campaign 'donors' in threat over election fraud citing 2020 'skullduggery' and calls for constitutional amendment targeted at Kamala

04:00 EDT, 8 September 2024

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13825833/Trump-donors-skulldu
ggery-25th-amendment.html


Donald Trump has warned Kamala Harris's campaign donors that they will not escape his retribution if they play a role in a 2024 election 'steal'.

The GOP candidate promised he would not allow a repeat of the 'rampant Cheating and Skullduggery' he claims cost him the White House in 2020, and threatened unprecedented legal action against those who try.

Posting on X and his own Truth Social channel under the heading 'cease and desist' he said 'lawyers, political operatives, donors, illegal voters, and corrupt election officials' would all find themselves targeted.

The swipe at donors came as Trump's Democrat rival reported raising a whopping $230 million more than Trump in campaign contributions during the month of August.

'Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country,' Trump wrote.

Three days before he faces Harris for their first presidential debate Trump repeated his charge that she covered-up Joe Biden's cognitive decline and promised a constitutional amendment to prevent it happening again.

Speaking at a campaign rally in Mosinee, Wisconsin, he said he supports 'modifying' the 25th Amendment to target any US vice president who 'lies or engages in a conspiracy to cover up the incapacity of the president of the United States'.

'If you do that with a coverup of the president of the United States, it's grounds for impeachment immediately and removal from office, because that's what they did,' he told his supporters.

Why Do Trumptards Wrap Themselves In The Flag So Desperately? Maybe Because Their Ideas Are Un-American

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/07/the-far-right-actually-hates-america-
its-dark-ideology-has-foreign-roots
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Sunday, September 8, 2024 9:49 AM

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How the Media Sanitizes Trump’s Incoherent Ramblings

Parker Molloy writes in The New Republic:

Four years ago, in an article for Media Matters for America, I warned that journalists were sanitizing Donald Trump’s incoherent ramblings to make them more palatable for the average voter. The general practice went like this: The press would take something Trump said or did — for instance, using a visit to the Centers for Disease Control to ask about Fox News’s ratings, insult then–Washington Governor Jay Inslee, rant about his attempt to extort Ukraine into digging up dirt on Joe Biden, and downplay the rising number of Covid-19 cases in the U.S. — and write them up as The New York Times did: “Trump Says ‘People Have to Remain Calm’ Amid Coronavirus Outbreak.” This had the effect of making Trump’s words and actions seemed cogent and sensible for the vast majority of Americans who didn’t happen to watch his rant live.

Flash-forward to today, and it’s clear this problem has only worsened. As Trump’s statements grow increasingly unhinged in his old age, major news outlets continue to reframe his words, presenting a dangerously misleading picture to the public.

For instance, last week, Trump posted the following to his Truth Social account:

I have reached an agreement with the Radical Left Democrats for a Debate with Comrade Kamala Harris. It will be Broadcast Live on ABC FAKE NEWS, by far the nastiest and most unfair newscaster in the business, on Tuesday, September 10th, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Rules will be the same as the last CNN Debate, which seemed to work out well for everyone except, perhaps, Crooked Joe Biden. The Debate will be “stand up,” and Candidates cannot bring notes, or “cheat sheets.” We have also been given assurance by ABC that this will be a “fair and equitable” Debate, and that neither side will be given the questions in advance (No Donna Brazile!). Harris would not agree to the FoxNews Debate on September 4th, but that date will be held open in case she changes her mind or, Flip Flops, as she has done on every single one of her long held and cherished policy beliefs. A possible third Debate, which would go to NBC FAKE NEWS, has not been agreed to by the Radical Left. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

CNN described that rambling, insult-laden, conspiracy-riddled wall of text — itself a pretty good example of what he spends his time off the campaign trail doing — by writing, “Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he has ‘reached an agreement’ to participate in a September 10 debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, noting that ‘the rules will be the same as the last CNN debate, which seemed to work out well for everyone.’”

Does that really capture what Trump posted?

More at https://newrepublic.com/article/185530/media-criticism-trump-sanewashi
ng-problem


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Sunday, September 8, 2024 1:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Second: "TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP"

Jack: Yeah. Trump's going to win.

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Trump will be fine.
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Sunday, September 8, 2024 1:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Repost from last night because it got buried on the previous page after Second's bout of TDS this morning.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (Monday, August 12th):
Oh boy, oh boy! Kamala is up 0.4 points in the aggregate after 3 weeks of gaslighting without any real interviews or a debate!

On this day in 2020: Biden +7.5

On this day in 2016: Clinton +6.3


Biden won that popularity contest by less than 4 points, and we all know what happened in 2016.



Harris will NEVER rise above 1 or 2 points in the aggregate on Trump, even with the gaslighting. She's peaked. This is her plateau.

Once they can't hide her anymore and everybody gets to see how dumb she is and how toxic her policies are for our country, it's all over for you.

Maybe some of you will finally stop blindly believing everything MSNBC tells you once this happens.

Hope you're really enjoying yourselves in the meantime.






1.9 points. 1.9 points was Harris' peak.

She hit 1.7 points on August 21st and has now floundered between 1.5 points and 1.9 points for the 17 days since.

The DNC was August 19th through the 22nd. RFK dropped out of the race on August 23rd.

Both of these events are now baked into the polls.

Morning Consult's most recent poll put Harris at +3 when its previous poll had her at +4. Outside of Rasmussen Reports, any polls that have Harris higher than the last time they polled were a LONG time ago and predated the DNC.


On this day in history Biden was up +7.1 and Clinton was up +3.1 in the meaningless Popular Vote. Harris is only up 1.8 points.

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 1:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Reposted that because I needed to add that NY Times/Sienna just gave Trump +1 for 9/3 - 9/6.

This is exactly where NY Times/Sienna had Trump the last time they put a poll out, all the way back on 7/22 - 7/24. That was right during the middle of the DNC and when RFK dropped out of the race.

This brings Kamala back down to only +1.4 in the meaningless Popular Vote, and if other polls match what NY Times/Sienna are finding right now (that absolutely nothing has changed since the last two weeks of July), this is about to swing back in Trump's favor by about +1.4 to +1.9 over the next week or two.


But we have a debate to shake things up in 2 days if Kamala shows up.

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 4:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Harris Campaign Has No Time To "Think About Why Certain Things Have Happened" In Past 4 Years
The Harris campaign declared Thursday that they don’t have time to think about why the economy is the way it is right now with high inflation and poor job numbers.

Harris-Walz spokesman Ian Sams stated:

“We’ve got 60 days until the election. You know, we don’t have time to sit around and think about why, over the last few years, certain things may have happened or may not have happened.”



After all, Kamala was only IN OFFICE for those four years!
Why should we expect her to have thought about ANYTHING back then??
/snark





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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 6:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Harris Campaign Has No Time To "Think About Why Certain Things Have Happened" In Past 4 Years
The Harris campaign declared Thursday that they don’t have time to think about why the economy is the way it is right now with high inflation and poor job numbers.

Harris-Walz spokesman Ian Sams stated:

“We’ve got 60 days until the election. You know, we don’t have time to sit around and think about why, over the last few years, certain things may have happened or may not have happened.”



After all, Kamala was only IN OFFICE for those four years!
Why should we expect her to have thought about ANYTHING back then??
/snark





TRANSLATION: We've run out of bullshit excuses. It's bad enough that we are finally admitting the economy is shit after denying it for 3 years straight because it's election time and we can't keep pissing in everyone's face while telling them that it's raining.



Democrats are finished.

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 6:40 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

BY NOW YOU SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE "RUSSIAN ELECTION INTEFERENCE" NARRATIVE AS JUST
THAT: A NARRATIVE.

Would "they" lie to you like that?

Oh yes, indeed they would!

Quote:

US
Intel Undercuts DOJ's "Foreign Interference" Claim Used To Smear Conservative Pundits
Saturday, Sep 07, 2024 - 07:30 AM

Authored by Luis Cornelio via HeadlineUSA.com,






Everything, and I mean everything comes out in the long run. As for this post, like I told Jack. Your opinion is meaningless. Historians are already printing the facts. And we keep seeing how stupid you are. Really, I just can't stop laughing at you morons.

tick tock

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Nick Fuentes is now accusing Donald Trump of ‘betrayal’ - and people have no sympathy

Far-right commentator Nick Fuentes – who has been labelled a white supremacist by the US Department of Justice (DOJ) – is now accusing Donald Trump of “betrayal” after the Republican changed his views on the 2020 presidential election and conceded he lost after all.

Of course, to many, the former US president’s history of mistruths, false claims and inaccuracies are well-known.

Now, in the latest case of flip-flopping from Trump, he’s finally admitted in an interview with podcaster Lex Fridman earlier this week he “lost by a whisker” in 2020 to Joe Biden, as opposed to his repeated false claims that the election was “stolen” from him in a case of “fraud” – which the media refers to as his “big lie”.

And Fuentes isn’t happy about this, claiming Trump’s remarks about the 2020 election demonstrate “how pathetic its [MAGA] has gotten”.

He said: “[Trump] says, ‘oh, I lost by a whisker’. So what was the point? What’s the point of any of it? You lost in 2020, seriously? What are we even doing anymore?

“Then you’re a loser. You’re a loser. You just lost. Then you lost to Joe Biden, you deserve to be charged.”

Fuentes also claimed that Trump’s admission that he lost to Biden “vindicates” the indictment brought by the DOJ last month over the convicted felon’s attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, which was revised from a previous indictment following the Supreme Court’s ruling that Trump has “some” immunity from prosecution as a former president.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nick-fuentes-is-now-accusing-d
onald-trump-of-betrayal-and-people-have-no-sympathy/ar-AA1qaAIA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cf19e50cd0524564a5b4703dbeb8f7ba&ei=92




Russia Russia Russia...

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MAGA Mouthpieces PANIC As Russian Payments Revealed




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Sunday, September 8, 2024 7:02 PM

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 7:26 PM

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Former President Donald Trump can take money for pardoning January 6, 2021, Capitol rioters due to the Supreme Court's recent presidential immunity ruling. And he will.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-probably-take-money-pardons-supr
eme-court-immunity-1950540


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Sunday, September 8, 2024 8:25 PM

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Donald Trump gets everything wrong about the climate crisis

By Bill McKibben | Fri 6 Sep 2024 08.36 EDT

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/sep/06/preside
ntial-election-climate-crisis-project-2025-trump


Here is the biggest thing happening on our planet as we head into the autumn of 2024: the Earth is continuing to heat dramatically. Scientists have said that there’s a better than 90% chance that this year will top 2023 as the warmest ever recorded. And paleoclimatologists were pretty sure last year was the hottest in the last 125,000 years. The result is an almost-cliched run of disasters: open Twitter/X anytime for pictures of floods pushing cars through streets somewhere. It is starting to make life on this planet very difficult, and in some places impossible. And it’s on target to get far, far worse.

Here’s the second-biggest thing happening on our planet right now: finally, finally, renewable energy, mostly from the sun and wind, seems to be reaching some sort of takeoff point. By some calculations, we’re now putting up a nuclear plant’s worth of solar panels every day. In California, there are now enough solar farms and wind turbines that day after day this spring and summer they supplied more than 100% of the state’s electric needs for long stretches; there are now enough batteries on the grid that they become the biggest source of power after dark. In China it looks as if carbon emissions may have peaked – they’re six years ahead of schedule on the effort to build out renewables.

And here’s the third biggest thing in the months ahead: the American presidential election, which looks as if it is going down to the wire – and which may have the power to determine how high the temperature goes and how fast we turn to clean power.

Donald Trump gave an interview last week, in which he laid out his understanding of climate change:
Quote:

You know, when I hear these poor fools talking about global warming. They don’t call it that any more, they call it climate change because you know, some parts of the planet are cooling and warming, and it didn’t work. So they finally got it right, they just call it climate change. They used to call it global warming. You know, years ago they used to call it global cooling. In the 1920s they thought the planet was going to freeze. Now they think the planet’s going to burn up. And we’re still waiting for the 12 years. You know we’re down almost to the end of the 12-year period, you understand that, where these lunatics that know nothing, they weren’t even good students at school, they didn’t even study it, they predict, they said we have 12 years to live. And people didn’t have babies because they said – it’s so crazy. But the problem isn’t the fact that the oceans in 500 years will raise a quarter of an inch, the problem is nuclear weapons. It’s nuclear warming … These poor fools talk about global warming all the time, you know the planet’s going to global warm to a point where the oceans will rise an eighth of an inch in 355 years, you know, they have no idea what’s going to happen. It’s weather.
I’ve quoted this at length because this could again be the most important man on the planet, talking about the most important issue the planet has ever faced. And he’s gotten every word of it wrong. It’s gibberish.

But it’s gibberish in the service of something very important and very dangerous: doing all that he can to block the energy transition, in America and around the world.
His friends at Project 2025 have laid out in considerable detail how you translate that gibberish into policy. It lays out in loving detail many of the steps his administration would use to bolster oil, gas and coal while sidetracking sun and wind.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/sep/06/preside
ntial-election-climate-crisis-project-2025-trump


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 9:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your fear tactics will not work. Americans are done being afraid.

The Democratic Party is about to fall.

Tick Tock



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Sunday, September 8, 2024 9:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Russia Russia Russia...



Hey Ted... How come you got 200 NeoCon Bushites and Dick Cheney endorsing your girl and the former California Senate Majority Leader who is a Mexican-American female from the most liberal state in the union just registered Republican the other day and says she's voting for Trump?

https://californiaglobe.com/fr/former-ca-senate-president-gloria-romer
o-defects-from-democrat-party-joins-republicans



Maybe you should stop worrying about Russia and start worrying about your own broken party right here.

Just a thought.

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 9:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Maybe you should stop worrying about Russia and start worrying about your own broken party right here.

Just a thought.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

You should worry that Biden will kill Trump after the election. The Supreme Court ruled that Biden has immunity from prosecution for killing Trump. Biden might take advantage of that new freedom the six Trumptards on the Supreme Court gave him. The three Democrats on the Supreme Court ruled that Biden does NOT have the freedom to kill Trump, but they were overruled by the Trumptards being too clever in stopping Trump's criminal trials. The Trumptard Justices did not think very clearly about consequences if Biden chooses to kill Trump.
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+a+president+kill+a+political+rival

6ix, there is more for you to worry about. Numerous Presidents were killed by a single person. Trump almost died recently, but the single person was a poor marksman.

Personally, I hope Trump runs again in 2028, after losing in 2024. I want Trump healthy so he can lose again and again and again. 2032 is coming. I hope Trump is the GOP candidate eight years from now. That Supreme Court decision will still let a Democratic President, if she chooses, to kill Trump in eight years.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 10:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Maybe you should stop worrying about Russia and start worrying about your own broken party right here.

Just a thought.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

You should worry that Biden will kill Trump after the election. The Supreme Court ruled that Biden has immunity from prosecution for killing Trump. Biden might take advantage of that new freedom the six Trumptards on the Supreme Court gave him. The three Democrats on the Supreme Court ruled that Biden does NOT have the freedom to kill Trump, but they were overruled by the Trumptards being too clever in stopping Trump's criminal trials. The Trumptard Justices did not think very clearly about consequences if Biden chooses to kill Trump.
https://www.google.com/search?q=can+a+president+kill+a+political+rival

6ix, there is more for you to worry about. Numerous Presidents were killed by a single person. Trump almost died recently, but the single person was a poor marksman.

Personally, I hope Trump runs again in 2028, after losing in 2024. I want Trump healthy so he can lose again and again and again. 2032 is coming. I hope Trump is the GOP candidate eight years from now. That Supreme Court decision will still let a Democratic President, if she chooses, to kill Trump in eight years.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





You are unhinged.

Trump won't be running in 2028 because he wins in November.



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Sunday, September 8, 2024 11:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You are unhinged.

Trump won't be running in 2028 because he wins in November.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

The Supreme Court wrote about Biden killing Trump:

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.

Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/23-939#writing-23-939_DI
SSENT_7


6ix, if you Trumptards can't understand that the Supreme Court gave Biden a free pass to kill Trump, you aren't trying to understand. But Trumptards don't try, which is why their lives are difficult in all areas, including those having nothing to do with Supreme Court decisions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 11:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You are unhinged.

Trump won't be running in 2028 because he wins in November.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

The Supreme Court wrote about Biden killing Trump:

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.

Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends. Because if he knew that he may one day face liability for breaking the law, he might not be as bold and fearless as we would like him to be. That is the majority’s message today.

Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/23-939#writing-23-939_DI
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6ix, if you Trumptards can't understand that the Supreme Court gave Biden a free pass to kill Trump, you aren't trying to understand. But Trumptards don't try, which is why their lives are difficult in all areas, including those having nothing to do with Supreme Court decisions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I don't know...

Sounds to me like somebody knows they're not going to win in November.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I don't know...

Sounds to me like somebody knows they're not going to win in November.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Do you understand that the winner is unknown until after the election? I doubt you do. Biden could be making a contingency plan to kill Trump if he wins, but I doubt he has, since he is an old fool, as is Trump.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 1:00 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I don't know...

Sounds to me like somebody knows they're not going to win in November.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Do you understand that the winner is unknown until after the election? I doubt you do. Biden could be making a contingency plan to kill Trump if he wins, but I doubt he has, since he is an old fool, as is Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Yeah...

Still sounds like you don't think your gal is going to win.



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Monday, September 9, 2024 2:58 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SECOND: Immune. Immune. Immune.


Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Specifically addressed earlier.

It's bad enough that you're trying to scare the children.
You're disgusting when you lie to do it.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 4:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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I've quoted this at length because this could again be the most important man on the planet, talking about the most important issue the planet has ever faced.


Nuclear war.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SECOND: Immune. Immune. Immune.


Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Specifically addressed earlier.

It's bad enough that you're trying to scare the children.
You're disgusting when you lie to do it.

You did not address the possibility, you silly old thing. And you didn't address this thing Trump is planning once he is President: (It is twice on this page to attract your attention)

Donald Trump gets everything wrong about the climate crisis

By Bill McKibben | Fri 6 Sep 2024 08.36 EDT

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/sep/06/preside
ntial-election-climate-crisis-project-2025-trump


Here is the biggest thing happening on our planet as we head into the autumn of 2024: the Earth is continuing to heat dramatically. Scientists have said that there’s a better than 90% chance that this year will top 2023 as the warmest ever recorded. And paleoclimatologists were pretty sure last year was the hottest in the last 125,000 years. The result is an almost-cliched run of disasters: open Twitter/X anytime for pictures of floods pushing cars through streets somewhere. It is starting to make life on this planet very difficult, and in some places impossible. And it’s on target to get far, far worse.

Here’s the second-biggest thing happening on our planet right now: finally, finally, renewable energy, mostly from the sun and wind, seems to be reaching some sort of takeoff point. By some calculations, we’re now putting up a nuclear plant’s worth of solar panels every day. In California, there are now enough solar farms and wind turbines that day after day this spring and summer they supplied more than 100% of the state’s electric needs for long stretches; there are now enough batteries on the grid that they become the biggest source of power after dark. In China it looks as if carbon emissions may have peaked – they’re six years ahead of schedule on the effort to build out renewables.

And here’s the third biggest thing in the months ahead: the American presidential election, which looks as if it is going down to the wire – and which may have the power to determine how high the temperature goes and how fast we turn to clean power.

Donald Trump gave an interview last week, in which he laid out his understanding of climate change:
Quote:

You know, when I hear these poor fools talking about global warming. They don’t call it that any more, they call it climate change because you know, some parts of the planet are cooling and warming, and it didn’t work. So they finally got it right, they just call it climate change. They used to call it global warming. You know, years ago they used to call it global cooling. In the 1920s they thought the planet was going to freeze. Now they think the planet’s going to burn up. And we’re still waiting for the 12 years. You know we’re down almost to the end of the 12-year period, you understand that, where these lunatics that know nothing, they weren’t even good students at school, they didn’t even study it, they predict, they said we have 12 years to live. And people didn’t have babies because they said – it’s so crazy. But the problem isn’t the fact that the oceans in 500 years will raise a quarter of an inch, the problem is nuclear weapons. It’s nuclear warming … These poor fools talk about global warming all the time, you know the planet’s going to global warm to a point where the oceans will rise an eighth of an inch in 355 years, you know, they have no idea what’s going to happen. It’s weather.
I’ve quoted this at length because this could again be the most important man on the planet, talking about the most important issue the planet has ever faced. And he’s gotten every word of it wrong. It’s gibberish.

But it’s gibberish in the service of something very important and very dangerous: doing all that he can to block the energy transition, in America and around the world.
His friends at Project 2025 have laid out in considerable detail how you translate that gibberish into policy. It lays out in loving detail many of the steps his administration would use to bolster oil, gas and coal while sidetracking sun and wind.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/sep/06/preside
ntial-election-climate-crisis-project-2025-trump


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September 6, 2024 | The unprecedented grand coalition

https://buzzmachine.com/2024/09/06/the-unprecedented-grand-coalition/

As Nicolle Wallace exclaimed on her show Friday, Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders have all gathered together around a cause. That cause is democracy and its standard bearer is Kamala Harris.

This is a momentous time in the United States, unprecedented at least in this century and likely since long before the Civil War. It is the biggest story in my journalism career. The question is whether our national media will understand this moment — or whether they will continue to insist on their trope of a divided America.

It is not a divided America. Patriots are gathering together and putting past differences aside to forestall a next civil war, to support and defend the Constitution. The movement that matters is not Trump’s and the Republicans’ fascist insurrection, which is the one that gets attention in news media. The movement that matters now is this one: the movement for democracy.

In recent days, in The Times, Nick Kristof scolded liberals, telling us why we should not demean Trump voters. A few days later in The Washington Post, Matt Bai rebutted, saying he understands Trump voters but asking why he should give them empathy. I say both framings are wrong, for each centers Trump and his fascists.

A much more profound phenomenon is growing—not on the “other side” of the fascists, but instead at the new and true core of American politics and governance. The question is not whether we should demean or understand or empathize with fascists. What we should be concentrating on instead is welcoming those who will stand for democracy in a larger movement.

Lord knows, I have disagreed with Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney. I will disagree with them still. But I welcome them into this grand coalition that is forming now. MSNBC has its sane and sometimes former Republicans — Nicole Wallace, Charlie Sykes, David Jolly, and, Joe Scarborough — and I welcome them and thank them for standing up for democracy and against fascism, a word they regularly use (though The Times, The Post, et al do not). We must welcome more to this righteous and urgent cause.

For God’s sake, political reporters, stop framing these two movements — one to tear down democracy, one to build it up — as equivalent sides across your imaginary continental divide. Stop your false balance. Stop washing the insanity of the fascist party’s leader — and the insanity of his followers for following him. Stop normalizing his and their patently abnormal and abhorrent behavior. Stop trying to predict (in this unprecedented moment, all your “models” and experience and presumptions are worthless). Stop hoping for bad news. Stop making the story about yourself — yes, I am looking at you, A.G. Sulzberger — and please try to understand the threats to democracy, liberty, and life from the perspectives of those who do not share the power and privilege of your platforms. Stop ignoring the rising chorus of critics who are trying to make you and your journalism better — to save journalism from your lapses of judgment. Stop your amnesia about what Trump and company have already shown us to be. Stop making up new white-gloved euphemisms for racism, misogyny, lies, insurgency, corruption, hatred, and grift — call these things what they are, otherwise you are not doing journalism, not informing and explaining reality to your publics.

Here, right in front of your eyes, is the story of the century and perhaps of the nation’s history. This is your last test. Fail at this, and there is no hope for you. Step up to the moment. Cover the story of your lifetimes.

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Trump vows ‘long term prison sentences’ for people he falsely accuses of ‘cheating’ in the 2020 election

Donald Trump promised to prosecute those who “cheated” during the 2020 election as he intends to keep a close eye on the November race, the Republican nominee said in a late night rant.

The former president vowed in a post shared to X on Saturday night to seek political retribution “when” he retakes the White House for Democrats who, Trump baselessly claimed, committed “rampant cheating and Skullduggery” during the 2020 election.

Despite Trump’s insistence and his team’s legal challenges to the election results across the country, no court has supported these fraud claims.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-
cheating-election-prosecution-fraud-b2608948.html


Trump was a bad loser who refused to admit he lost in 2020. When he loses in 2024, I predict with 100% certainty that he will again refuse to admit he lost.

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There are way, way, WAY more important issues at stake in this election — see, for example, this one . . .

NASA Analysis Confirms a Year of Monthly Temperature Records
https://www.nasa.gov/earth/nasa-analysis-confirms-a-year-of-monthly-te
mperature-records
/

Hi! I'd like a wake-up call.

This is your wake-up call:
The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.

HARRIS & WALZ BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLANET B


https://andrewtobias.com/time-to-transubstantiate/

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2024 U.S. Presidential Election: The Stakes for Democracy in the Harris-Trump Matchup

By Michael Hirsh | September 9, 2024, 12:03 AM

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/09/09/2024-us-election-harris-trump-dem
ocracy
/

What exactly are the stakes of the 2024 U.S. presidential election?

President Joe Biden and his anointed successor, Vice President Kamala Harris, have sought to lay them out in stark, simple terms. The election, Harris said at her rollout event as a presidential candidate on July 23, is “about two different visions for our nation: one where we are focused on the future, the other focused on the past.” Biden, in a speech from the Oval Office a day later, sounded the same theme: “America is going to have to choose between moving forward or backward.”

These are, on the surface, fairly banal words, seemingly anodyne sentiments typical of presidential campaign rhetoric. Yet, in the present context, they are terrifyingly true. They are freighted with historic implications that could make this the most consequential election—for both the United States and the world—in U.S. history, historians and political experts say.

Why? Because the 2024 election is in large part about a candidate and the political party that he now controls—Donald Trump and the Republican Party—who want to move the country decidedly backward in time and who seek a return to an America and a world that no longer exist.

The imagined world of “Make America Great Again”—Trump’s enduring campaign theme—seeks to roll back a century’s worth of recognition and rights to the many Americans who are not white, male, heterosexual, and cisgender. It is a world that intends to curtail a half-century’s worth of reproductive rights granted to women. It is a movement that aims to undo the progressive era dating back to the New Deal—which raised the status of the working class—and return to a kind of gilded age for billionaires, with an economic policy based on corporate tax cuts and tariffs. Finally, in foreign policy, this pseudo-nostalgic vision welcomes a return to the quasi-isolationism embraced by the Founding Fathers and seeks a full retreat from America’s post-World War II role as globo-cop, or enforcer of last resort for global security.

All this is what the “Again” in Make America Great Again, or MAGA, really means, said Joseph Ellis, a Pulitzer Prize-winning presidential historian. For Trump’s huge MAGA political base, “the promised land lies somewhere in the first half of the twentieth century, when white male supremacy was still the presumed natural order,” Ellis wrote in an email. “That means before Brown v. Board of Education integrated public education; before Martin Luther King had his dream; before Roe v. Wade gave women control of their bodies; before the Voting Rights Act; and, most symbolically, before an African American occupied the White House.” When it comes to America’s role in the world, MAGA means “going back sometime before 1940,” when isolationism dominated U.S. policy, Ellis said.

Perhaps it’s no surprise that for Harris’s campaign, the rallying cry has become, “We’re not going back!”

For Trump and the Republicans, the way to achieve this broad retrograde vision—to undo nearly a century’s worth of progress—is by taking power in the White House and both houses of Congress. And the only way to do that, in turn, is through the massive disenfranchisement of broad swaths of the fastest-growing portions of the U.S. population, such as Black and Hispanic people and especially immigrants. Thus, in the end, the “existential threat to democracy” that Harris, Biden, and the Democrats are warning of is not hyperbole but rather what Trump and his supporters are actually pushing for, Ellis said. They seek to achieve this by all but halting immigration, curtailing voting rights for minorities, gerrymandering their shrinking white majority into a dominant position in as many legislative districts as they can, and asserting unlimited and unchecked power for the presidency.

The brutal fact, Ellis said in an interview, is that U.S. democracy is no longer working for the Republican Party as it’s currently constituted—and probably never will again given demographic trends. “By the year 2045 [white people] will become a statistical minority,” he said, citing U.S. Census Bureau projections. “The Trump believers actually want to see democracy end, because it has come to mean white male supremacy will end.”

Are things really that dire? Based on the evidence, such fears can’t be dismissed entirely.

Trump has long denied he is a racist, but it’s undeniable that his rise to national political prominence in the last decade—culminating in his 2016 election as president—has been fueled by dog whistling to white supremacists. In late July, after Trump suggested to a stunned audience at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention in Chicago that Harris, who is Black and South Asian, had “turned Black” for political purposes, commentators recalled similar attacks of his in the past. Indeed, Trump’s political career was effectively built on his false, racist “birther” claim that former President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. After repeating this baseless lie for a year, Trump went from nowhere in the polls to utter dominance of the Republican Party in 2016. Trump has also openly challenged the validity of the U.S. Constitution.

Trump’s supporters have been quite forthright about their back-to-the-future mindset. Trump has rhetorically disavowed the Heritage Foundation’s controversial Project 2025—a massive new Republican agenda—but it was designed by some key officials from his presidency. These include Russell Vought, the policy director for the Republican National Convention’s platform committee who is said to be in line to be Trump’s next chief of staff. Several of these operatives told me in interviews last year that they want to roll back a century of left-wing encroachment on Washington, decimating what they view as a federal bureaucracy dominated by Black people and other minorities. They aim to reverse what began as Woodrow Wilson’s creation of a federal administrative elite and later grew into a vast permanent bureaucracy—the “deep state” Trump sees as his primary enemy—under Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal and Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society. As Heritage President Kevin Roberts put it to me in an interview: “It’s like doing open-heart surgery on the administrative state. That’s the part that’s never been done before.”

And they want to give the president near-dictatorial powers to accomplish this, including personal control of the Justice Department so he can prosecute his political adversaries.

In an interview in September 2023, Vought told me that the key difference from the first Trump administration is that this time, they’re prepared. With a detailed action plan in place—and with heretics to his MAGA movement slated to be purged from government to an unprecedented degree—Trump may be able to achieve far more than in his first term, when he was stymied by his own cabinet and that obstructive deep state. “We are preparing to be ready on day one,” Vought said. “Whatever is necessary to seize control of the administrative state is really our task.”

In this, the Trumpers could be helped along by a conservative-dominated Supreme Court. In a monumental ruling in July, the court effectively gave the twice-impeached president near-total immunity for most criminal acts he might commit in office were he to return to power. Delivering a blistering dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor argued that “the President is now a king above the law” and could be immune even from ordering the assassination of political rivals.

“What’s so strange about that Supreme Court decision is that it actually creates a space where the president doesn’t need to do anything anymore to justify his actions,” said Edward Watts, a historian at the University of California, San Diego. “For example, you don’t need to create a state of emergency to assassinate your rival.” In ancient Rome, Watts said, “even the most tyrannical emperors had to create justification for killing people.”

When it comes to America’s place in the world, these plans also mean withdrawing—at least to some degree—from the rules-based international system. And it’s important to note that for many Americans, some of these views have real appeal, especially the idea that the United States needs to shuffle off its globo-cop role, which has allowed European and Asia nations to free-ride under the U.S. defense umbrella.

Even many mainstream academics welcome his more realist approach to NATO and the Russia-Ukraine war, though they have little use for Trump himself. (Trump has promised to end the war quickly, and he has suggested that he will throw out previous Western promises to bring Ukraine into NATO.) Many experts are wary that Biden and Harris, who embody the postwar internationalist consensus, are now in danger of sucking the United States into wars on three major fronts, pledging all at once to defend Ukraine against Russia “no matter what,” in Biden’s words; Israel against Hamas and Iran; and Taiwan against China.

Trump officials like to note that his more inward-looking approach goes back to George Washington himself, who warned Americans in his farewell address as president “to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world” and to maintain their “detached and distant situation” behind protective oceans.

What would such a shift mean in practice? Based on the reporting I’ve done in recent months, a second Trump administration would probably not simply pull out of NATO, as the former president has repeatedly suggested he might do. As Robert O’Brien, a former Trump national security advisor, wrote in a recent Foreign Affairs cover article titled “The Return of Peace Through Strength,” a second Trump administration would still value alliances. “‘America first is not America alone’ is a mantra often repeated by Trump administration officials,” O’Brien wrote. But a second Trump administration would also make so many demands of Europe to take over the lion’s share of NATO defenses that a major—and perhaps permanent—rupture in the trans-Atlantic relationship is much more likely.

That would only continue a trend by which U.S. allies have come to realize that they can no longer rely on a superpower so unstable and internally polarized. In the run-up to the 2020 presidential election, former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Ivo Daalder told me, echoing many other policy experts, that contest would be the most important in U.S. history—at least since the Civil War. Trump’s reelection would be tantamount, Daalder said, to a formal divorce from Europe and the West.

That’s doubly true this time around, Daalder says now. “If 2020 was the most important election since 1860, 2024 is the most important since 2020,” Daalder said in an interview. “The fact that [Trump] picked J.D. Vance [as his running mate], whose foreign policy is more nationalist and isolationist even than Trump’s, speaks volumes to the fact that this will be an administration in which there won’t be anybody who adheres to the old framework that has guided American policy since 1941. You combine that with his anti-democratic tendencies—it’s clear this could be more dangerous than last time.”

Other foreign-policy experts agree. In fact, said Jonah Blank, a foreign affairs scholar who once worked on Biden’s Senate staff, “this is a more important election than 2020 because now we know more about what we’re getting. In his first term, the Trump-inspired insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was yet to happen; the Supreme Court hadn’t yet ruled on immunity.” Except for Jan. 6, Blank said, “just looking at what he’s said and done since then is more disturbing than anything he did in office.”

Joseph S. Nye Jr., who is one of the most respected foreign affairs specialists in the United States (Read his letter to the next president in the Fall 2024 print issue here.), had a similar prediction when I interviewed him in 2020. If Trump continued to threaten to retake power, Nye said, then U.S. allies, especially in Europe, would eventually throw their hands up at the unpredictability of U.S. politics. He foresees grimmer tidings now.

“Selling out Ukraine will strengthen [Russian President Vladimir] Putin, and weaken the credibility of NATO,” Nye wrote in an email. “Withdrawing troops in [South] Korea or Japan will have a destabilizing effect on East Asia. And withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord again will weaken international institutions, efforts to combat climate change, and hurt America’s soft power. Add to this high tariffs and a trade war with our partners and you have a mess that could be transformative. And we will not have the moderating influence of traditional Republican appointees as we did in the earlier term.”

One saving grace could be that Europeans—weakened economically vis-à-vis the United States and threatened more than at any other time in the postwar period by both Russia and China under President Xi Jinping—will have little choice in the end but to side with Washington, Trump or no Trump.

“It will damage their trust in us, but as long as Putin and Xi remain in power, Trump’s return will not destroy the alliances at their end,” Nye said.

Another possible source of relief is that Trump has repeatedly said he would avoid getting the United States into a war. Indeed, one of his chief complaints against Biden is that, as Trump said during their ill-fated June 27 debate, “he will drive us into World War III” because of his aggressive stance against Russia. Some national security experts agree that at a moment when the Biden administration has painted itself into a corner by fully backing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s quixotic aim of driving out the Russians altogether—thus effectively delegating U.S. strategy to Zelensky—Trump would at least bring a fresh approach. “One thing he’ll do is de-stigmatize the idea that there could be negotiations,” said Stephen Wertheim, a political scientist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the author of the 2020 book, Tomorrow, the World: The Birth of U.S. Global Supremacy.

Even critics such as Ellis say that on this issue, Trump may have “a point that has an enormous amount of resonance in the American population right now. We can’t be the savior for the world.”

At the same time, however, a second President Trump would likely dramatically escalate tensions with China. While the Biden administration has pursued a policy of countering China without quite “containing” it—maintaining Trump’s tariff war while building new security structures, such the AUKUS partnership between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States—a second Trump administration would more openly embrace the idea that the United States is engaged in a new cold war with China. “As China seeks to undermine American economic and military strength, Washington should return the favor—just as it did during the Cold War, when it worked to weaken the Soviet economy,” O’Brien wrote in his recent essay.

This would involve a dramatic escalation of the trade war and more than Biden’s “de-risking”—a full decoupling of the two economies. “Now is the time to press even further, with a 60 percent tariff on Chinese goods, as Trump has advocated, and tougher export controls on any technology that might be of use to China,” added O’Brien, who also called for a crash military program to arm other nations, even Communist-led Vietnam, against China.

“The [Navy] should also move one of its aircraft carriers from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and the Pentagon should consider deploying the entire Marine Corps to the Pacific, relieving it in particular of missions in the Middle East and North Africa,” he wrote. O’Brien contended that such moves would increase deterrence, preventing war, but a more forward-based U.S. posture could also increase the odds of a direct military conflict between Washington and Beijing.

A big problem in divining what Trump would do in a second term is that his view of America’s role in the world remains mostly incoherent, Wertheim said. “He’s saying, ‘On one hand, I want to dominate the world and when there’s crisis almost anywhere that reflects badly on the U.S., I personally will put a stop to it. But on the other hand, I could take or leave most American alliances.’”

Is Harris the one to deliver coherence to U.S. policy—and to see that this grand unwinding of the world system doesn’t happen? In the weeks since Biden stepped aside, the former California prosecutor and senator has surged in the polls. Most experts see little or no daylight between Harris and Biden in policy in that both have sought to find a bridge between the post-World War II era of bold liberal internationalism and the new era of populist neoprotectionism and anti-interventionism. Harris’s running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz—who has almost no international experience—doesn’t seem to change that calculation much.

In her speeches as vice president—which have been little noted until now—Harris has repeatedly sounded one theme: Any form of U.S. isolationism “is dangerous, destabilizing, and indeed shortsighted,” as she said at the 2024 Munich Security Conference. “I firmly believe our commitment to build and sustain alliances has helped America become the most powerful and prosperous country in the world—alliances that have prevented wars, defended freedom, and maintained stability from Europe to the Indo-Pacific. To put all of that at risk would be foolish,” Harris said.

“If she beats Trump, she will already have had a successful presidency in a way,” Blank said. “It will be the first step toward averting a truly existential calamity. The stakes really are that large.”

Perhaps. Certainly that could prove to be the case for the Trumpist threat to U.S. democracy. And if U.S. democracy is destroyed or vitiated, that heightens the threat to democracies around the world.

But it’s also worth noting that on some key issues related to America’s place in the world—trade, immigration, neoprotectionism, and the new “make it in America” embrace of industrial policy that has overtaken both political parties—the Trump-Vance and Harris-Walz tickets don’t differ as much as the harsh political rhetoric would sometimes indicate. It’s notable that Trump and Biden were equally eager to pull out of Afghanistan. During their June 27 debate, Trump attacked Biden for the disastrous way the United States left the country in 2021, but it was Trump who laid the groundwork by sidelining the Afghan government and negotiating directly with the Taliban. That all but ensured the ultimate disaster involving a rapid takeover by the Taliban after 20 years of U.S. occupation.

Moreover, whoever inherits the White House next January will be forced by the anti-interventionist mood in the country to avoid putting U.S. boots on the ground anywhere in the world. He or she will face the same titanic diplomatic challenges—both in Ukraine and in the Middle East—and will be leery of getting pulled into any further foreign crises. He or she will be equally forced to maintain U.S. deterrence in Europe and Asia—and to face down Putin and Xi, who have more or less joined together to try to eclipse U.S. hegemony.

Some senior officials who served in Trump’s first term and remain loyal say he won’t be as much of a threat to the international system as critics think. Among them is Kiron Skinner, the former head of policy planning under Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who noted in an interview that in his first term, Trump “stayed within the United Nations, though we pulled back from some agencies. But there wasn’t a pull away from the broad-based liberal international order.” In his second term, Skinner said, Trump would mainly seek to “right-size America’s role in the world” by demanding that U.S. allies step up more on defense.

All of which suggests that the forces of inertia—or the status quo ante—may prove stronger than people think.

“Betting on inertia in U.S. foreign policy is a very good bet,” Wertheim said. “It’s really, really hard to change U.S. foreign policy in a big way.”

So, yes, the stakes of the 2024 election are big indeed. It’s just that we don’t know yet how big they will be.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 8:18 AM

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Quote:

SECOND: Immune. Immune. Immune.

SIGNY: Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Specifically addressed earlier.

It's bad enough that you're trying to scare the children.
You're disgusting when you lie to do it.

SECOND: You did not address the possibility,



I didn't say I addressed it, I said it had been.

Quote:

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in his majority opinion that the “the current stage of the proceedings in this case does not require us to decide whether this immunity is presumptive or absolute.”

“Because we need not decide that question today, we do not decide it. ‘[O]ne case” in more than ‘two centuries does not afford enough experience’ to definitively and comprehensively determine the President’s scope of immunity from criminal prosecution,'”



Since the Chief Justice, representing the majority opinion, says the ruling doesn't extend that far... the ruling doesn't extend that far. TBD. In the meantime, if Congress feels that the President has overstepped his/ her authority, and it can get past party politics, there's always impeachment.



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But the problem isn’t the fact that the oceans in 500 years will raise a quarter of an inch, the problem is nuclear weapons.


I'm convinced that climate change is manmade and a real problem, but even so, my priorities put nuclear war as more immediately catastrophic than a slow boil.
I'll add that Trump isn't innocent of the nuclear debacle. He bailed from the INF and the JCPOA.

AFA "clean energy" is concerned... I've already done an extensive pencil - whipping exercise showing we can achieve a 30% reduction in net CO2 burden (thru conversion to nat gas, conservation measures, and better forestry, agricultural, and ranching practices) without touching "clean energy" technology.

We could make further progress with "clean energy" as be part of the mix where it makes sense. For example, solar makes sense for our southern states, and we don't need vast arrays of solar panels across great swaths of land to implement it.

We're just getting thru a really intense heatwave and for a change I didn't hear any calls for "flex your power" conservation. I wonder if it's bc a critical mass of users have installed rooftop solar, like we have. (I see more neighbors installing solar now that rates have gone up.) If commercial buildings were mandated to install solar and all new rooftops were mandated to be "cool roofs" ... and cities aimed at a certain amount of tree cover ... including large parking lots and streets... we could easily cool down the cityscape and be more locally self sufficient in energy production.
Giant windmills could be supplemented with vertical "eggbeater" wind turbines. Their smaller profile, less costly construction and installation, quiet operation, and ruggedness means they can be installed in populated areas, such as skyscraper rooftops. Seems the "windy city" could benefit.
There are all kinds of places where small to medium scale clean energy production can be installed to reduce the need for fuel burning power plants. I haven't estimated their emissions savings, but we could probably see another 10-25% reduction in CO2 burden from electricity generation.



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Monday, September 9, 2024 1:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:

The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.



No they didn't.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 1:32 PM

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Meghan McCain, John McCain's daughter, said on the social media site X: "Seeing all of these extreme progressives suddenly become Dick Cheney fans is objectively hilarious."



Yup.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 1:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.


SIX: No they didn't.



There are two things I think you're wrong on, and climate change is one of them. Just bc TPTB hijack a real problem to implement their own nefarious programs doesn't mean that the problem isn't real. Separate their "solutions" from the problem.

World health for example. It's bad, and that's a problem. "Bill Gates" vaccinations for easily preventable diseases isn't the answer.

Overpopulation is a problem. Mass starvation or tyrannical population control (Welcomed to the NWO) isn't the only option. Educating women works a lot better. (Electricity and TV do wonders too.)

Plastic pollution is a problem. Recycling isn't the answer.

Like that.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 3:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.


SIX: No they didn't.



There are two things I think you're wrong on, and climate change is one of them. Just bc TPTB hijack a real problem to implement their own nefarious programs doesn't mean that the problem isn't real. Separate their "solutions" from the problem.



I didn't deny that climate change exists. I deny the claims every year that the last 12 months were the hottest on record. I've been hearing that every year ever since I read a Weekly Reader saying it in 2nd grade.

Quote:

World health for example. It's bad, and that's a problem. "Bill Gates" vaccinations for easily preventable diseases isn't the answer.

Overpopulation is a problem. Mass starvation or tyrannical population control (Welcomed to the NWO) isn't the only option. Educating women works a lot better. (Electricity and TV do wonders too.)

Plastic pollution is a problem. Recycling isn't the answer.

Like that.



Yes. Overpopulation is a problem. It is the biggest problem we face as a species.

The problem with "educating" women is all the other "education" they get along the way. They are intolerable. College "educated" women are the worst. Especially when they spend all day perched in their position of power and privilege and tell you that you can't argue with them because you're a sexist if you do. If times ever really get hard for Americans, you're not going to hear from any of these women anymore.

We don't recycle plastic. Any of the plastic you throw in the recycle bin gets buried, burnt, thrown into the ocean or sent to another country to bury, burn or throw into the ocean for us.



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Monday, September 9, 2024 4:40 PM

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Trump’s vow of 100% tariffs on nations that snub the dollar is a lose-lose for China and U.S., economist says

Published Mon, Sep 9 2024

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/09/economist-calls-trumps-threat-to-tarif
f-countries-that-shun-the-dollar-a-lose-lose.html


During a rally in Wisconsin on Saturday, the former president promised that he would push to keep the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency if elected in November.

“Many countries are leaving the dollar. They not going to leave the dollar with me. I’ll say, you leave the dollar, you’re not doing business with the United States because we’re going to put 100% tariff on your goods,” he said.

The campaign promise is aimed at protecting the hegemony of the U.S. dollar in global financial markets and would present strong retaliation to those trying to unsettle it.

Regardless of the former president’s rationale for the target tariffs, Hong expects such a move to be a “lose-lose” situation for both Washington and it’s biggest economic rival, Beijing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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We need higher energy costs

I see that Kamala Harris now has an extensive issues page on her website. People have been whining about its absence forever, and now that it's here I predict that about 17 people will bother reading it.
https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

My favorite “issue” is this one:
Lower Energy Costs and Tackle the Climate Crisis

Politically, I'm sure this is a winner. Logically, lower fuel costs (not exactly the same as lower energy costs, but close enough) and tackling climate change do not compliment one another. It is, unfortunately, all but impossible that we'll ever seriously decrease fossil fuel burning without some kind of carbon tax or cap-and-trade to raise the price of fossil fuels. Even the solar revolution won't be enough to decrease fossil fuel burning toward zero. Only raising the price of fossil fuel will change people’s habitual purchases of fossil fuel.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 9, 2024 5:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.



No they didn't.






Shut up stupid. Back up what you say with facts. TWO always does.

T


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Monday, September 9, 2024 5:12 PM

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Retired generals defend Harris, blame Trump on Afghanistan withdrawal: report

The former military brass say Trump left Biden and Harris with a disaster

The group of 10 former generals and admirals includes Admiral Steve Abbot, a former advisor to George W. Bush; Gen. Lloyd W. Newton, and Gen. Larry R. Ellis, who had never endorsed a political candidate until this week.

"Vice President Kamala Harris is the best—and only—presidential candidate in this race who is fit to serve as our commander-in-chief," the group wrote in a National Security Leaders for America letter, first obtained by Axios.

"She has demonstrated her ability to take on the most difficult national security challenges in the Situation Room and on the international stage, from rallying our allies against Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine to standing shoulder to shoulder with our allies in the Indo-Pacific against China’s provocative actions, to advancing U.S. leadership on space and artificial intelligence," the letter continued.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/retired-generals-defend-harris-blame-
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I know it's coming so I may as well get in front of it.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 5:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Retired generals defend Harris, blame Trump on Afghanistan withdrawal: report

The former military brass say Trump left Biden and Harris with a disaster

The group of 10 former generals and admirals includes Admiral Steve Abbot, a former advisor to George W. Bush; Gen. Lloyd W. Newton, and Gen. Larry R. Ellis, who had never endorsed a political candidate until this week.

"Vice President Kamala Harris is the best—and only—presidential candidate in this race who is fit to serve as our commander-in-chief," the group wrote in a National Security Leaders for America letter, first obtained by Axios.

"She has demonstrated her ability to take on the most difficult national security challenges in the Situation Room and on the international stage, from rallying our allies against Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine to standing shoulder to shoulder with our allies in the Indo-Pacific against China’s provocative actions, to advancing U.S. leadership on space and artificial intelligence," the letter continued.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/retired-generals-defend-harris-blame-
trump-afghanistan-withdrawal-report




I know it's coming so I may as well get in front of it.

T




All the Bushite warmongering NeoCon trash are lining up behind your gal.

Good to see them all on one side of the fence while they belong.

When Trump is reelected, we'll make sure they all stay over there with you.



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Monday, September 9, 2024 5:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.



No they didn't.






Shut up stupid. Back up what you say with facts. TWO always does.

T




His name is Second, stupid.

And no. He never does. Kevin Drum and Paul Krugman are morons.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 6:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
We need higher energy costs

I see that Kamala Harris now has an extensive issues page on her website. People have been whining about its absence forever, and now that it's here I predict that about 17 people will bother reading it.
https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

My favorite “issue” is this one:
Lower Energy Costs and Tackle the Climate Crisis

Politically, I'm sure this is a winner. Logically, lower fuel costs (not exactly the same as lower energy costs, but close enough) and tackling climate change do not compliment one another. It is, unfortunately, all but impossible that we'll ever seriously decrease fossil fuel burning without some kind of carbon tax or cap-and-trade to raise the price of fossil fuels. Even the solar revolution won't be enough to decrease fossil fuel burning toward zero. Only raising the price of fossil fuel will change people’s habitual purchases of fossil fuel.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Why are all the socialists rich?

That's a question that doesn't need an answer.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (Monday, August 12th):
Oh boy, oh boy! Kamala is up 0.4 points in the aggregate after 3 weeks of gaslighting without any real interviews or a debate!

On this day in 2020: Biden +7.5

On this day in 2016: Clinton +6.3


Biden won that popularity contest by less than 4 points, and we all know what happened in 2016.



Harris will NEVER rise above 1 or 2 points in the aggregate on Trump, even with the gaslighting. She's peaked. This is her plateau.

Once they can't hide her anymore and everybody gets to see how dumb she is and how toxic her policies are for our country, it's all over for you.

Maybe some of you will finally stop blindly believing everything MSNBC tells you once this happens.

Hope you're really enjoying yourselves in the meantime.






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1.9 points. 1.9 points was Harris' peak.

She hit 1.7 points on August 21st and has now floundered between 1.5 points and 1.9 points for the 17 days since.

The DNC was August 19th through the 22nd. RFK dropped out of the race on August 23rd.

Both of these events are now baked into the polls.

Morning Consult's most recent poll put Harris at +3 when its previous poll had her at +4. Outside of Rasmussen Reports, any polls that have Harris higher than the last time they polled were a LONG time ago and predated the DNC.


On this day in history Biden was up +7.1 and Clinton was up +3.1 in the meaningless Popular Vote. Harris is only up 1.8 points.



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
NY Times/Sienna just gave Trump +1 for 9/3 - 9/6.

This is exactly where NY Times/Sienna had Trump the last time they put a poll out, all the way back on 7/22 - 7/24. That was right during the middle of the DNC and when RFK dropped out of the race.

This brings Kamala back down to only +1.4 in the meaningless Popular Vote, and if other polls match what NY Times/Sienna are finding right now (that absolutely nothing has changed since the last two weeks of July), this is about to swing back in Trump's favor by about +1.4 to +1.9 over the next week or two.


But we have a debate to shake things up in 2 days if Kamala shows up.




Harvard/Harris puts the race at a tie. Now we're at Harris +1.2, a number we haven't seen since August 17th.

Even the Left-Wing outliers ABC only got her up to +4 in the meaningless Popular Vote, which if that was her average going into election day if polling is as wrong as it's been the last 2 cycles would mean Trump would narrowly win the Popular Vote.

Expect ABC's next poll to be a few points lower.


On this day in history, Biden was up +7.5 and Clinton was up +2.7.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs
-harris





Debate night tomorrow if Kamala shows up for it.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

His name is Second, stupid.

And no. He never does. Kevin Drum and Paul Krugman are morons.

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I was "two" before I was "second".

"two" used a verizon.net email address, which I was unwilling to pay even $1 for once I dropped verizon service. And so "two" needed a new identity, becoming "second".

"two" - http://www.fireflyfans.net/bluesunlist.aspx?c=graphics&u=two

"second" - http://www.fireflyfans.net/bluesunlist.aspx?c=graphics&u=second

I still use the "two" identity to distribute the Serenity script where Wash lives: https://www.mediafire.com/two

Maybe I should have gone with "dos" (Spanish for two) rather than "second"? Too late now. "too" would have been a good alternative.

I noticed that 6ix does the thing that all Texas Trumptards do -- describe as moron people who are smarter and more accomplished than the Trumptard. To quote 6ix: "Kevin Drum and Paul Krugman are morons." Supervisors need a great deal of patience when there are Trumptards in the workforce, which is pretty much why Trumptards don't prosper in America since supervisors don't have time or sufficient patience to deal with the nonsense coming out of a Trumptard's mind. For example, using Trump:

Former President Donald Trump and Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance continue to falsely describe how one of their major policy proposals, across-the-board tariffs, would work.

Trump has falsely, and repeatedly, claimed that China – not US importers – pay the tariff.

At a rally in Arizona in mid-August, he claimed that Vice President Kamala Harris, his Democratic opponent, is lying when she refers to his tariff plan as a “Trump tax.”

“She is a liar. She makes up crap … I am going to put tariffs on other countries coming into our country, and that has nothing to do with taxes to us. That is a tax on another country,” Trump said.

In September, he repeated the claim during an interview with Fox News: “It’s not a tax on the middle class. It’s a tax on another country.”

And he said again during a rally in Wisconsin Saturday that “it’s not going to be a cost to you, it’s going to be a cost to another country.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/fact-check-trump-vance-tariffs
/index.html


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Monday, September 9, 2024 7:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.

SIX: No they didn't.

SIGNY: There are two things I think you're wrong on, and climate change is one of them. Just bc TPTB hijack a real problem to implement their own nefarious programs doesn't mean that the problem isn't real. Separate their "solutions" from the problem.

SIX: I didn't deny that climate change exists. I deny the claims every year that the last 12 months were the hottest on record. I've been hearing that every year ever since I read a Weekly Reader saying it in 2nd grade.

SIGNY: World health for example. It's bad, and that's a problem. "Bill Gates" vaccinations for easily preventable diseases isn't the answer.
Overpopulation is a problem. Mass starvation or tyrannical population control (Welcomed to the NWO) isn't the only option. Educating women works a lot better. (Electricity and TV do wonders too.)
Plastic pollution is a problem. Recycling isn't the answer.
Like that

SIX: Yes. Overpopulation is a problem. It is the biggest problem we face as a species.

The problem with "educating" women is all the other "education" they get along the way. They are intolerable.

Sometimes , SIX, you piss me off.
I'm talking reading, writing, and arithmetic. Basic health. Birth control. How to run a small business. Stuff that is outside of the majority of women in Africa and south Asia. Where population growth is the highest. You're talking real "first world" stuff, where population growth is irrelevant.

So, what is your solution? Barefoot, pregnant, and starving? That's real NWO.


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College "educated" women are the worst. Especially when they spend all day perched in their position of power and privilege and tell you that you can't argue with them because you're a sexist if you do. If times ever really get hard for Americans, you're not going to hear from any of these women anymore.
I'm sorry, but your inferiority complex is getting the better of you. If you really felt better than them (you are) you wouldn't let jibes from "college educated women" (and SECOND) get to you the way they do.

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Or, any verification or thought.

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“Stop the Steal” 2.0

This idea of noncitizen voting is now a loud drumbeat and dog whistle. The argument is made that noncitizen votes are canceling out the votes of citizens.

But here’s no evidence of noncitizen voting. It’s the newest version of the Big Lie, and it’s really a twofer because it is fusing voter fraud paranoia with anti-immigrant hysteria. In doing so, it is building support both for new restrictions on voting and new restrictions on immigration. So it’s basically taking two of the most important planks of the MAGA agenda and putting them together.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/09/trump-v-harris-stop-the-st
eal-2024.html


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Republicans threaten a government shutdown unless Congress makes it harder to vote

The exhausting dance that precedes every single government funding battle has begun.

by Ian Millhiser | Sep 9, 2024, 2:55 PM CDT

The last act of Congress funding the federal government expires on September 30. Unless Congress passes new funding legislation by then, much of the government will shut down.

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA), egged on by the House Freedom Caucus and by former President Donald Trump, reportedly wants to use this deadline to force through legislation that would make it harder to register to vote in all 50 states.

https://www.vox.com/politics/370713/republican-government-shutdown-sav
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Monday, September 9, 2024 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.

SIX: No they didn't.

SIGNY: There are two things I think you're wrong on, and climate change is one of them. Just bc TPTB hijack a real problem to implement their own nefarious programs doesn't mean that the problem isn't real. Separate their "solutions" from the problem.

SIX: I didn't deny that climate change exists. I deny the claims every year that the last 12 months were the hottest on record. I've been hearing that every year ever since I read a Weekly Reader saying it in 2nd grade.

SIGNY: World health for example. It's bad, and that's a problem. "Bill Gates" vaccinations for easily preventable diseases isn't the answer.
Overpopulation is a problem. Mass starvation or tyrannical population control (Welcomed to the NWO) isn't the only option. Educating women works a lot better. (Electricity and TV do wonders too.)
Plastic pollution is a problem. Recycling isn't the answer.
Like that

SIX: Yes. Overpopulation is a problem. It is the biggest problem we face as a species.

The problem with "educating" women is all the other "education" they get along the way. They are intolerable.

Sometimes , SIX, you piss me off.
I'm talking reading, writing, and arithmetic. Basic health. Birth control. How to run a small business. Stuff that is outside of the majority of women in Africa and south Asia. Where population growth is the highest. You're talking real "first world" stuff, where population growth is irrelevant.

So, what is your solution? Barefoot, pregnant, and starving? That's real NWO.




My solution is turn all the electricity off and let everyone see what real struggle is all about. Maybe when the lights come back on everybody who's still around will be a little bit more polite to each other.




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College "educated" women are the worst. Especially when they spend all day perched in their position of power and privilege and tell you that you can't argue with them because you're a sexist if you do. If times ever really get hard for Americans, you're not going to hear from any of these women anymore.
I'm sorry, but your inferiority complex is getting the better of you. If you really felt better than them (you are) you wouldn't let jibes from "college educated women" (and SECOND) get to you the way they do.



Nah. Just call out the bullshit as I see it. Meanwhile I just get to mostly sit on the sidelines and laugh at everyone dancing.

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Monday, September 9, 2024 11:45 PM

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Neocons are crawling out from their nests to try to swarm Kamala to victory.

In addition to the high profile Cheneys, 200+ staffers who worked for warmongers George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Sen. John McCain and Mitt Romney endorsed Kamala because Trump will "hurt ordinary people".

Maidan queen bee Vicki Nuland was given 1 hour to advocate for Ukraine.

Nikki Haley was interviewed by CNN, where she warned Americans that foreign agents are EVERYWHERE on social media!

That's not counting Mitch "Yertle the Turtle" McConnell and Lindsey "Never Met a War He Didn't Like" Graham.

Anyone with half a brain would look at this pile of immoral debris, and switch to the other side.




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Monday, September 9, 2024 11:55 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by second:
The 12 hottest months on Earth in the last 100,000 years all happened in the last 12 months.

SIX: No they didn't.

SIGNY: There are two things I think you're wrong on, and climate change is one of them. Just bc TPTB hijack a real problem to implement their own nefarious programs doesn't mean that the problem isn't real. Separate their "solutions" from the problem.

SIX: I didn't deny that climate change exists. I deny the claims every year that the last 12 months were the hottest on record. I've been hearing that every year ever since I read a Weekly Reader saying it in 2nd grade.

SIGNY: World health for example. It's bad, and that's a problem. "Bill Gates" vaccinations for easily preventable diseases isn't the answer.
Overpopulation is a problem. Mass starvation or tyrannical population control (Welcomed to the NWO) isn't the only option. Educating women works a lot better. (Electricity and TV do wonders too.)
Plastic pollution is a problem. Recycling isn't the answer.
Like that

SIX: Yes. Overpopulation is a problem. It is the biggest problem we face as a species.

The problem with "educating" women is all the other "education" they get along the way. They are intolerable.

SIGNY: Sometimes , SIX, you piss me off.
I'm talking reading, writing, and arithmetic. Basic health. Birth control. How to run a small business. Stuff that is outside of the majority of women in Africa and south Asia. Where population growth is the highest. You're talking real "first world" stuff, where population growth is irrelevant.

So, what is your solution? Barefoot, pregnant, and starving? That's real NWO.


SIX: My solution is turn all the electricity off and let everyone see what real struggle is all about. Maybe when the lights come back on everybody who's still around will be a little bit more polite to each other.




A) The population problem is in areas with no electricity. You can't seem to expand your frame of reference beyond your immediate experience. I know somebody else here who posts like that.


B) Once violence determines the outcome, only the most violent will be left.

SIX, check your blood sugar.


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SIX: College "educated" women are the worst. Especially when they spend all day perched in their position of power and privilege and tell you that you can't argue with them because you're a sexist if you do. If times ever really get hard for Americans, you're not going to hear from any of these women anymore.

SIGNY: I'm sorry, but your inferiority complex is getting the better of you. If you really felt better than them (you are) you wouldn't let jibes from "college educated women" (and SECOND) get to you the way they do.

SIX: Nah. Just call out the bullshit as I see it. Meanwhile I just get to mostly sit on the sidelines and laugh at everyone dancing.



Just don't spew bs of your own, 'cause that looks stupid.



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Back to the elections...

Gonna watch/ listen to the debate? Not sure I want to. I think it's going to be a trainwreck on both sides.

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Tuesday, September 10, 2024 12:10 AM

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Quote:

Quote:

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SIX: My solution is turn all the electricity off and let everyone see what real struggle is all about. Maybe when the lights come back on everybody who's still around will be a little bit more polite to each other.




A) The population problem is in areas with no electricity. You can't seem to expand your frame of reference beyond your immediate experience. I know somebody else here who posts like that.


B) Once violence determines the outcome, only the most violent will be left.

SIX, check your blood sugar.



It doesn't have to be for months or years.

No electricity for 2 or 3 days. Anywhere. No real explanations for it. Just some vague accident mumble mumble military stuff mumble mumble.

Maybe you don't let everybody know that it's only going to be 2 or 3 days while you're at it. Let everybody wonder if it's ever coming back on. Keep it off just long enough for everybody who spends all day every day sniffing their own farts to start reevaluating their life and everything they take for granted.

I'd suggest doing tests like this every once in a while. Now we have the ability to see what would happen. When things like this start happening on their own, which they will, we won't have any data to go by and everything will be a surprise as it happens.

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Just don't spew bs of your own, 'cause that looks stupid.




Okay.

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Back to the elections...

Gonna watch/ listen to the debate? Not sure I want to. I think it's going to be a trainwreck on both sides.



I can't not watch it. I might be listening to parts of it while I'm working on something else if it's a snoozefest. I really have no expectations at all.

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Tuesday, September 10, 2024 12:46 AM

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SIX: doesn't have to be for months or years.

No electricity for 2 or 3 days. Anywhere.

Maybe you don't let everybody know that it's only going to be 2 or 3 days while you're at it. Let everybody wonder if it's ever coming back on.

I'd suggest doing tests like this every once in a while. Now we have the ability to see what would happen. When things like this start happening on their own, which they will, we won't have any data to go by and everything will be a surprise as it happens.


I thought we were talking about overpopulation? You kind of went off on a tangent about college educated white women.
But it would be interesting to insert temporary emergencies into the works to test people's preparedness.

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Tuesday, September 10, 2024 1:33 AM

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SIX: doesn't have to be for months or years.

No electricity for 2 or 3 days. Anywhere.

Maybe you don't let everybody know that it's only going to be 2 or 3 days while you're at it. Let everybody wonder if it's ever coming back on.

I'd suggest doing tests like this every once in a while. Now we have the ability to see what would happen. When things like this start happening on their own, which they will, we won't have any data to go by and everything will be a surprise as it happens.


I thought we were talking about overpopulation? You kind of went off on a tangent about college educated white women.
But it would be interesting to insert temporary emergencies into the works to test people's preparedness.

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I'm talking something a bit more lasting.

Covid messed everyone's heads up, but the wrong way.

Turn out the lights with no real explanations and let everyone wonder if the power is ever going to come back on.

Apparently 2 or 3 days isn't long enough, because emergency preparedness is not what I'm talking about, although it's not bad if everyone thinks about that afterward among other things.

I'm talking about changing the behavioral patterns of everyone en masse. Way too many people take everything in their lives for granted and don't show any appreciation toward the ones who actually keep everything running for them.

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