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Elections; 2024
Friday, October 25, 2024 3:38 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Wow. Nine .... NINE! ... desperate posts from SECOND! Hey, SECOND, now you get to see how impotent board- splattering is. Your go- to tactic for the past dozen years in this "war" you've been waging against America? Doesn't work. Try evidence, logic, and honesty instead.
Friday, October 25, 2024 3:45 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, October 25, 2024 3:47 PM
Quote: I have always been in conflict with human zeroes who preposterously pretend they are contributors to society's wellbeing. You and Trump do not add to society, Signym. You subtract. You never have been of positive value. You and Trump are absurdly negative, Signym. There is not any Trumptards worth a shit, you and 6ix included. But dream on that Trump will redeem your worthless existence while in the White House.
Friday, October 25, 2024 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Meanwhile, the only other choice we have is yet another obviously flawed candidate, Trump, whose biggest selling point is that the deep state is against him. Plus, he has a crap ton of money.
Friday, October 25, 2024 4:15 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, October 25, 2024 4:25 PM
Friday, October 25, 2024 5:27 PM
Friday, October 25, 2024 5:32 PM
Friday, October 25, 2024 10:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: "Dangerous Times" - LATimes Editor Quits After Owner Strikes Down Kamala Endorsement The editorial editor for the Los Angeles Times quit in protest after the newspaper’s owner blocked a decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris. “I am resigning because I want to make it clear that I am not OK with us being silent,” Mariel Garza told the Columbia Journalism Review. “In dangerous times, honest people need to stand up. This is how I’m standing up.” Garza’s resignation followed the news this week that Patrick Soon-Shiong, the billionaire doctor who purchased the Los Angeles Times in 2018 for $500 million, shot down the Times editorial board’s attempt to endorse Harris. This will be the first election cycle since 2004 in which the Times has not endorsed a candidate. In a social media post, Soon-Shiong explained he offered the editorial board the chance to “draft a factual analysis of all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE policies by EACH candidate during their tenures at the White House, and how these policies affected the nation.” “With this clear and non-partisan information side-by-side, our readers could decide who would be worthy of being President for the next four years,” he wrote. “Instead of adopting this path as suggested, the Editorial Board chose to remain silent and I accepted their decision.” https://headlineusa.com/latimes-editor-quits-kamala-endorsement/ I guess providing an analysis of the positives and negatives of BOTH candidates was just too much honesty for Garza. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Quote: "Dangerous Times" - LATimes Editor Quits After Owner Strikes Down Kamala Endorsement The editorial editor for the Los Angeles Times quit in protest after the newspaper’s owner blocked a decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris. “I am resigning because I want to make it clear that I am not OK with us being silent,” Mariel Garza told the Columbia Journalism Review. “In dangerous times, honest people need to stand up. This is how I’m standing up.” Garza’s resignation followed the news this week that Patrick Soon-Shiong, the billionaire doctor who purchased the Los Angeles Times in 2018 for $500 million, shot down the Times editorial board’s attempt to endorse Harris. This will be the first election cycle since 2004 in which the Times has not endorsed a candidate. In a social media post, Soon-Shiong explained he offered the editorial board the chance to “draft a factual analysis of all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE policies by EACH candidate during their tenures at the White House, and how these policies affected the nation.” “With this clear and non-partisan information side-by-side, our readers could decide who would be worthy of being President for the next four years,” he wrote. “Instead of adopting this path as suggested, the Editorial Board chose to remain silent and I accepted their decision.”
Friday, October 25, 2024 10:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Looks like there will be two Senate pickups for the GOP and for the first time since August 6th the generic ballot for the House is in favor of Republicans by +0.5. Harris slipped to a +0.1 lead in the national popular vote polling today, which means if you factored in the 2020 polling bias Trump wins the popular vote by +3.7 points. Trump has lead Harris all week in every battleground state. When you factor in the 2020 polling biases, he wins every battleground state with anywhere between +2.7 to +7.5 of the vote in those states.
Saturday, October 26, 2024 6:26 AM
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Saturday, October 26, 2024 10:40 AM
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:09 PM
Quote: Washington Post editor-at-large [rabid neocon Robert Kagan, husband of rabid neocon Victoria Nuland, and chief of neocon think tank ISW] quits after Bezos ends paper's presidential endorsements
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:15 PM
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: This election is causing neocons and globalists ... of either party; elected, appointed, in the media, or in think tankland ... to out themselves in a giant howl of hysteria It's fun to watch. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Looks like there will be two Senate pickups for the GOP and for the first time since August 6th the generic ballot for the House is in favor of Republicans by +0.5. Harris slipped to a +0.1 lead in the national popular vote polling today, which means if you factored in the 2020 polling bias Trump wins the popular vote by +3.7 points. Trump has lead Harris all week in every battleground state. When you factor in the 2020 polling biases, he wins every battleground state with anywhere between +2.7 to +7.5 of the vote in those states. I thought that I should note that I missed the period in time earlier today that the national Popular Vote aggregate at RCP was a Tie. By the time I'd gotten to it, it had already shifted up to +0.1 for Harris, which was still a drop from yesterday. If you go into this election anything close to a tie, you lose. Bigly. Unless Harris can rise AT LEAST back to her all-time high of +2.2 by November 4th, this election is over. Even if she magically pulls that off, I'd only give her a 10% chance of winning. We don't get to coinflip territory until she's leading by roughly +4.2
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: With the 2024 election already upon us, many people have heard that Donald Trump and JD Vance plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants if they are elected in November, but what does this really mean and look like? Allan Lichtman discusses.
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:41 PM
Quote:NBC elections analyst Steve Kornacki runs down the results of a new CNBC poll giving Donald Trump a 48-46 lead over Kamala Harris nationally, and Harris a negative ten popularity rating, 10 days before the 2024 election.
Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: With the 2024 election already upon us, many people have heard that Donald Trump and JD Vance plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants if they are elected in November, but what does this really mean and look like? Allan Lichtman discusses. What Lictman should be talking about is why he trashed his rating system. I don't think it should belong in his hands anymore. The Keys system is great, but he did not properly attribute those keys in this crazy election season. He shouldn't have made his prediction until today. Now he's busy doing a tour defending his horrible pick this year. -------------------------------------------------- Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
Saturday, October 26, 2024 2:18 PM
Quote: [60%] Fraud Found Among 2,500 Voter Registration Forms Submitted En Masse In PA County Police in the 2024 battleground state of Pennsylvania are investigating some 2,500 voter registration forms that were submitted in two massive batches -- and investigators say that 60% of the forms they've checked so far are fraudulent. All of the ballots were submitted in Lancaster County, but two other counties are scrutinizing similarly suspect batches. While officials say it's the work of a "large-scale canvassing operation," they're not yet saying who's behind it. The roughly 2,500 applications landed at or near Pennsylvania's Oct 21 registration deadline; some observers are speculating that the timing may have been tactical, with the intent of exploiting time-pressure administrators would be under ahead of the Nov. 5 Election Day. However, as they examined the massive heap of forms, application processors were immediately alarmed by what they saw: Multiple applications with the same handwriting and signatures Many forms filled out on the same day Applications for previously-registered voters whose signatures on the forms did not match the ones on file Lancaster County District Attorney Heather Adams briefs reporters on the investigation of fraudulent voter registrations (via WGAL) That prompted a police investigation, and Lancaster County detectives soon confirmed many of the applications were fraudulent. Indications of fraud included: Inaccurate addresses False personal identification information False names Names that didn't match the Social Security Number on the form In many cases, forms had accurate data, but the supposed applicants told detectives they had neither requested nor completed the forms, and confirmed that the signatures were not theirs. In all, 60% of the applications that have been vetted so far were found to be fraudulent. "It's believed that the fraudulent voter registrations are connected to a large-scale canvassing operation for voter registrations that date back to June," said Lancaster County District Attorney Heather Adams in a Friday press conference. "The majority of applications received are dated August 15 and after. Those canvassing for voter registrations were employed and paid to obtain voter registration applications." Donald Trump enters a July 31 rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (Spencer Platt/Getty Images via Penn Capital-Star) Adams declined to provide details about the canvassing organization, or the names of individual suspects. The fraudulent forms included registrations for both Democrats and Republicans. However, "for the general election, [the party affiliation of a bogus registration] really wouldn't matter," noted Adams. She did note that the canvassing operation primarily took place at shopping centers, parking lots, parks, grocery stores, sidewalks and businesses. The fraudulent activity took a variety of forms, from completely bogus applications to ones where a real voter had started registering but then decided not to move forward, only to have an application submitted for them anyway. "Forgery of an application, which we have seen evidence of, would be a felony of the third degree punishable by up to seven years in prison and a $15,000 fine," said Adams, adding that one provision of the legal code would also enforce a 10-year loss of voting privileges. Adams said they had all available detectives assigned to the case, who are working under pressure of the approaching Election Day. "[The fraud] appears to be an organized effort at this point," she said, and noted that two other Pennsylvania counties are investigating similarly suspicious batches of registration applications. She declined to name them, but the Berks County DA told the Philadelphia Inquirer "We believe we have some and will be looking into them." Pennsylvanians can check their own voter registration status at this link. "The description of paid canvassers approaching voters on the streets of Lancaster City and mentioned boroughs does not meet the description of GOP and affiliated campaign volunteers,” Lancaster County GOP chair Kirk Radanovic told Lancaster Online. In a more narrowly-worded distancing from the alleged crimes, vice-chair of the Lancaster County Democrats said, "We have no reason to believe it was affiliated with any Democratic candidate’s campaign in the county.”
Saturday, October 26, 2024 2:26 PM
Quote: SIX: Given its track record, I don't believe that I agree with Nate here. But if you don't properly assess the situation when handing those keys out, the system doesn't work. Lichtman did not properly hand out those keys this year. The "True" for both "Strong short-term economy" and "Strong long-term economy" are just downright laughable, but are hardly the only keys that were misappropriated by Lichtman in 2024. Giving Harris the key for "No Primary Contest" is just dubious, given the events of the last several months. There was a primary, and Harris wasn't even in it.
Saturday, October 26, 2024 2:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Given its track record, I don't believe that I agree with Nate here.
Saturday, October 26, 2024 3:30 PM
Saturday, October 26, 2024 7:15 PM
THG
Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Given its track record, I don't believe that I agree with Nate here.Nate assumes that what a voter tells a pollster will match what the voter does at the polls. Ha-ha! You are a sucker, Nate.
Quote:A pollster (Gallup) called my sister's house. I could have said whatever I pleased to the pollster. I could say that I was voting for Trump. That I would not be voting. That I was an illegal alien. That Jill Stein should be elected. I could say anything.
Quote:Nat Silver depends on the polls being truthful, that someone like me is not screwing things up deliberately. Meanwhile, Lichtman depends on measurable facts but would be in the same situation as Nat Silver if Lichtman asked a random sample of people what they think the facts truly are, in their random and ill-informed opinions.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 1:55 AM
Sunday, October 27, 2024 3:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: If you want to complain about the 13 Keys.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 8:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 10:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.Key 5 (strong short-term economy) is turned false if the economy is in recession during the election campaign. The National Bureau of Economic Research has not officially declared a recession.
Quote:Putting “fun” back into low- and middle-income Americans’ budgets could be years away with most of their income barely covering the surge in costs for bare necessities, economists said. Even with annual inflation last month cooling to the lowest level since February 2021 and wages rising faster than inflation, low- and middle-income Americans are just barely covering their essentials, which include groceries, shelter, utilities and gasoline, economists say. That’s because when inflation slows, it only means prices aren't rising as quickly, not that prices are declining. So, Americans continue to pay higher prices for everyday needs. Low- and middle-income Americans were hit disproportionately harder than their higher-income peers because essentials account for a larger share of their budgets, and their discretionary spending, or spending on nonessential items like dining out, vacations and entertainment, is only just recovering, economists say. “For a very large share of Americans, the bottom 60% are spending more on essentials than before the pandemic,” said Michael Pearce, Oxford Economics deputy chief U.S. economist. “The burden is hardest among the lowest income but also touches middle income. Spending patterns of low-income Americans will take years to recover.”
Sunday, October 27, 2024 11:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Somewhere around here back when Lichtman made his initial prediction I listed what the keys actually were. Some of that the Legacy Media like CNN even admits these things now as it finally starts asking Harris hard questions and forcing her to answer them just two weeks before the election. I didn't think Anderson had it in him... and honestly, when the CIA starts opening the door for Trump like that I start questioning why they're all turning on Harris this late in the game and what their real plan here is.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 11:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.Key 5 (strong short-term economy) is turned false if the economy is in recession during the election campaign. The National Bureau of Economic Research has not officially declared a recession. We do not recognize the authority of an institution that denied inflation was even taking place for a full year and would have officially declared a recession a recession at any point in time during the last 2 years had somebody else been sitting in the oval office at the time.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 11:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: And saying that both the short-term and long-term economy has been strong under the Harris/Biden* administration is objectively false.Key 5 (strong short-term economy) is turned false if the economy is in recession during the election campaign. The National Bureau of Economic Research has not officially declared a recession. We do not recognize the authority of an institution that denied inflation was even taking place for a full year and would have officially declared a recession a recession at any point in time during the last 2 years had somebody else been sitting in the oval office at the time.Google and Bing also say the US is NOT in recession: https://www.bing.com/search?q=Is+the+US+in+recession https://www.google.com/search?q=Is+the+US+in+recession I wonder how I knew that 6ixStringJack would claim the US is in recession?
Quote:And would claim the officials are lying? Because that is standard operating procedure for Trump. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Sunday, October 27, 2024 11:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Also, you missed what was probably my most important point of that post... . . . None of this is making you ask any questions? -------------------------------------------------- Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 3:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Also, you missed what was probably my most important point of that post... . . . None of this is making you ask any questions? -------------------------------------------------- Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President. When deciding to buy machinery, I don't listen the salesmen's promises. I listen to people who already bought, but only those whose good judgment I can depend on. Likewise, I don't listen to a politician's promises. I listen to the people who already side with the politician.
Sunday, October 27, 2024 6:05 PM
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Monday, October 28, 2024 6:10 AM
Monday, October 28, 2024 6:18 AM
Monday, October 28, 2024 1:50 PM
Monday, October 28, 2024 2:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) forcefully defended Donald Trump’s vow to use the U.S. military against certain Americans, a group Trump has repeatedly labeled “the enemy from within.” Across several television interviews that aired Sunday, Vance also dismissed former Trump White House chief of staff John F. Kelly’s warnings that the former president meets the definition of a fascist. Vance described Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general, as a “disgruntled employee.” He also disputed former vice president Mike Pence’s contention that Trump forced him to choose between loyalty to the Constitution and loyalty to Trump himself. In a contentious exchange with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Vance said he would support the deployment of troops against what he and Trump have described as “left-wing lunatics,” which he argued is what Trump meant by “the enemy from within.” He contended that Trump didn’t mean to include Democratic lawmakers such as Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff in the group of Americans against whom he would use military force — even though the former president has repeatedly used the phrase “left-wing lunatics” to describe both of them. Schiff served on the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, and Pelosi was a longtime House speaker. Tapper read Vance a quote Trump gave during an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan that aired Friday, during which Trump said “an enemy from within” American politics poses a bigger danger to the country than North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. In a separate interview on “Meet the Press,” Vance said he agreed with Trump’s remark to Rogan that people like Schiff and Pelosi pose a greater threat to the United States than Russia or China do. “What he said — and I do agree with this — what he said is that the biggest threat we have in our country, it’s not a foreign adversary, because we can handle these guys,” Vance said. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-defends-trump-on-using-u-s-military-against-americans/ar-AA1t1CJj The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, October 28, 2024 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on this, dummy. Nor do they care about the Legacy Media lies on the topic. You've been treating Trump as if he were the enemy within for over 8 years now. Everybody realizes it in 2024, and outside of your cult members and super low IQ voters, nobody is buying it anymore. Tick Tock -------------------------------------------------- Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
Monday, October 28, 2024 3:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You (collectively) have been gaslighting America for years. Trump!Russia!Kompromat! Covid vaccine mandates. Quid pro quo! The "insurrection" Mostly peaceful riots Afghanistan "withdrawal" Biden, the meat popsicle President Hunter Biden laptop: Russian "disinformation" The wonderful economy Border security "Defending democracy" in Ukraine Russia, the evil/ clever/ weak/ powerful/ semicivilized/ (fill in the blank) nation Trump the Nazi/ fascist/ rapist/ threat to democracy Plus endless attempts to silence and demonize others
Monday, October 28, 2024 5:47 PM
Monday, October 28, 2024 6:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: No reason to believe Jack, signym and Trump will what?
Monday, October 28, 2024 11:55 PM
Tuesday, October 29, 2024 12:01 AM
Tuesday, October 29, 2024 1:10 AM
Quote:Well, the rally took place Sunday night, and boy, talk about the worst Nazi rally ever! In addition to the diverse speakers at the event, a black woman sang the national anthem. ... And clearly, Jews didn't get the memo that this was a "Nazi rally."
Tuesday, October 29, 2024 5:51 AM
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