REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Elections; 2024

POSTED BY: THG
UPDATED: Thursday, November 21, 2024 06:27
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 64681
PAGE 95 of 96

Tuesday, November 12, 2024 8:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. We won't know what the actual popular vote was until after New Years at the rate Democrats count.

75,175,276 for Trump / 71,933,375 for Harris.

That's like 80,000 votes counted in almost 2.5 hours.

Why are you so broken, West Coast?



We've gotten a pretty decent amount more in the following few hours...

75,405,508 for Trump / 72,270,039 for Harris.

Total votes counted: 147,675,547

Trump's lead: 3,135,469



California: 22% left
Alaska: 20% left
Oregon: 12% left
Utah: 11% left
Maryland: 7% left
Washington: 7% left
Washington D.C.: 7% left
Arizona: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 4% left
Nevada: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left





Compared to the 2020 election:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 7,830,738 now.

Trump now has 1,182,139 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 9,012,877 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.


--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 12, 2024 8:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quick breakdown of California since most of the remaining votes are coming from there...


Harris: 7,995,458 votes (58.9%)

Trump: 5,180,722 votes (38.1%)

Total: 13,176,180 votes

22% remain... (16,892,539 would be an exact number. We'll call it 16.75 Million to be conservative).


That gives us another 3,573,820 yet to come out of California.

Out of those, using the existing percentage splits, the candidates will get the following of the remaining votes...

Trump: 1,361,625

Harris: 2,104,980


If we add these numbers to the existing totals, that will be fairly close to the final numbers with what little else still needs to be counted outside of California.


Popular Vote Count with California projected and figured in:

Trump: 76,767,133

Harris: 74,375,019

Trump's lead: 2,392,114 (If California were 100% counted today with the same splits toward each candidate).

Total Vote: 151,142,152


With California counted, the popular vote would now only be 4,364,133 less than it was in 2020. It will still be less than that with the stuff in other states that still needs to be counted.

We're already way under less than 1/3rd of what YouTube commentators were claiming was the difference.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 12, 2024 9:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Republicans got a pickup in there somewhere. 219R / 209D.

(Ah... looks to be one of the 3 in California I said were leaning that way)

Maybe they get a buffer or two after all.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 12, 2024 10:15 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Fox talking head is our new Secretary of Defense

Is this a joke?

President-elect Donald Trump chose Pete Hegseth, who is a combat veteran and co-host on the weekend edition of “Fox & Friends,” to be his defense secretary.

Hegseth has no defense experience—aside from having lots of opinions. He has no government experience and no experience dealing with the Pentagon bureaucracy. He's never run anything bigger than a broom closet. Even at Fox he's only junior varsity, co-hosting the weekend edition of Fox & Friends.

On the other hand, he sure looks like a cabinet secretary. And he agrees with Donald Trump a lot. I suppose that might be good enough for a press secretary, but heading up the biggest, most complex organization in the federal government? You'd think that even the most servile Republican senators might think twice before letting a Fox talking head run the Defense Department. It's considered a pretty important job in some circles.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 12, 2024 10:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.

Don't use Google.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:23 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.

Don't use Google.

Procurement. A trillion dollars per year.

When you think about the money involved in defense, won't a multi-billionaire be the better choice?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:23 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump is assembling ultra-rich dream team to run the country

https://eedition.houstonchronicle.com/infinity/article_popover_share.a
spx?guid=2dfc57d1-06b0-4aa9-82de-157f9cf62826&share=true


In billionaires, we trust.

President-elect Donald Trump and his new best friend, Elon Musk, are assembling a dream team to lead the nation. The world’s billionaires, including many Texans, are advising them on who to hire or signing up themselves.

In 2017, Trump formed the wealthiest Cabinet in history, and he’s doing it again.

Voters in 2024 rejected experts, especially economists, scientists, generals, journalists and others who spend their lives gathering knowledge to make the world a better place. Trump convinced Americans to misplace the blame for the nation’s problems on those dedicated to addressing them.

I understand why people admire successful capitalists, but past performance on Wall Street does not guarantee future success in Washington.

Howard Lutnick, the billionaire CEO of trading firm Cantor Fitzgerald, is Trump’s headhunter in chief, co-chairing the transition team. Gary Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs president and chief economic adviser in Trump’s last administration, is helping connect Wall Street talent to Trumpworld. They are not working on behalf of the working class.

Priority number one is getting Wall Street executives back in the top roles. In the Biden administration, Lina Khan has led the Federal Trade Commission to slow the monopolistic mega-mergers that hurt consumers. At the same time, Securities and Exchange Commission boss Gary Gensler has tried to corral some of the abuses in commodities trading, particularly in cryptocurrencies.

Stock and crypto prices jumped in anticipation of Trump ending commonsense financial industry regulation. He has promised to install the most capitalist-friendly administration in world history.

Trump is considering a hedge fund manager, Scott Bessent, to lead the Treasury Department. Bessent, who attended Trump’s victory party, has promised the administration will slash business regulations so corporations can make more money, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Many of these executives recognize the risks Trump’s stated policies pose to the global economy. But like so many Trump supporters, they don’t think he’ll follow through on punishing tariffs or mass deportations. These billionaires believe that staying in Trump’s good graces will allow them to bend his will toward symbolic gestures rather than actual implementation.

Musk is the highest-profile Texas billionaire in Trump’s orbit, but he’s not alone. Oil and gas moguls were anxious to roll back President Joe Biden’s policies to slow climate change and unleash fossil fuel emissions.

Kelcy Warren, co-founder and chairman of Energy Transfer Partners, operates one of the nation’s largest fossil fuel pipeline companies. He invested more than $15 million in pro-Trump political action committees, the watchdog group Open Secrets reported.

Tim Dunn, who recently sold his oil and gas company, gave Trump’s Make America Great Again PAC $5 million. He’s been deeply involved with Christian nationalist groups in Texas for some time and only recently branched out across the nation, giving $18 million this year to a conservative PAC called the Jefferson Rising Fund that supports Trump allies.

Houston billionaire and Hilcorp CEO, Jeff Hildebrand, hosted Trump fundraisers where he helped raise millions from the oil and gas industry. Casino and hospitality magnate Tilman Fertitta gave more than $370,000 to the Republican National Committee and other Trump-affiliated groups.

If you think any of these billionaires support Trump lowering consumer prices or addressing income inequality, you’re mistaken. Business leaders understand that bringing prices down, called deflation, wreaks havoc on the economy and destroys profits.

Many of Trump’s largest donors and most fervent supporters have conflicting interests. Musk is a climate change activist who owes his fortune to cutting fossil fuel consumption and colonizing other planets because we are ruining this one.

Musk’s electric vehicle, renewable energy and energy storage businesses all rely on federal rules to fight climate change that oil barons hate.

Many voters believed Trump when he promised energy prices will go down after he wipes out environmental regulations and climate considerations weighing on the fossil fuel industry. However, the biggest problem facing oil and natural gas is low prices due to oversupply.

“A combination of slower demand growth and robust supply will push the market into oversupply, even with OPEC continuing to voluntarily keep barrels sidelined,” Houston investment bank TPH warned investors. “Our lower price forecast … will push U.S. producers to continue to decelerate growth.”

If energy prices drop, they will not stay there long because producers will cut supply to stop losing money.

America voted for the billionaires, a group not known for altruism or empathy. They will undoubtedly shake up the economy. We’ll see who lasts and who benefits.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Former Trump White House attorney Ty Cobb on Tuesday said it would be a “tragic event” that would have ramifications worldwide if President-elect Donald Trump follows through on his 2024 campaign promise to pardon the Jan. 6, 2021 rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol in his name.

The move would further demean “the rule of law to those of us in this country, and it’s not going to go unseen around the world,” the lawyer warned.

“I mean, this is the type of conduct that, when viewed internationally, makes it impossible to distinguish the United States from a third-world country or, you know, a South American dictatorship,” he feared. “This is really lawlessness of the highest order, and there’s no principal basis for it. I think it’d be a very sad event.”

https://www.rawstory.com/ty-cobb-trump-2669865494/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:52 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Russia is claiming credit for Trump’s win.

Russia’s intelligence chief, Nikolai Patrushev, made the following comment in an interview with the Moscow newspaper Kommersant:

The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.

The Russians are basically telling Trump: We put you in office. Now it’s time for you to pay us back.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-election-results-pat
rushev-putin-rubio-russia-ukraine.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 9:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.

Don't use Google.

Procurement. A trillion dollars per year.

When you think about the money involved in defense, won't a multi-billionaire be the better choice?



I suppose that it depends on exactly what it is you want that person to be up to if you are their boss.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 9:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ed Kilgore has clearly lost his mind...

Democrats Were Crushed in 2004, Too. It Didn’t Last Long.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-were-crushed-in-2004
-too-it-didn-t-last-long/ar-AA1tXOWF




Two problems with your theory there, Eddie...

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

2. Democrats were crushed by the NeoCons because of 9/11. All of those NeoCons just walked across the aisle and announced to the world they were voting for Harris.


This trash that passes as journalism you have here is nothing but textbook false equivalency.

The kind that AI will be doing in your place soon.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 1:54 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

Before the 2004 election, several things were known about Bush:

1) There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but WMDs were Bush's justification for war.

2) The U.S. Army was torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Iraqi civilians were being killed by the hundreds of thousands.

3) Osama bin Laden had not been captured, but his capture was Bush's justification for war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the next country to the East of Afghanistan, where Obama would kill him on May 2, 2011.

4) Bush had not finished the last two years of his service in the Texas Air National Guard, avoiding service in Vietnam, but President Bush would go to enormous lengths to claim he had not gone AWOL, smearing everyone who said differently. Bush did not fulfill his obligations and should have been ordered to active duty in Vietnam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation


Despite points 1, 2, 3, and 4, the worthless assholes who would become Trumptards voted for Bush.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

Before the 2004 election, several things were known about Bush:

1) There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but WMDs were Bush's justification for war.

2) The U.S. Army was torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Iraqi civilians were being killed by the hundreds of thousands.

3) Osama bin Laden had not been captured, but his capture was Bush's justification for war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the next country to the East of Afghanistan, where Obama would kill him on May 2, 2011.

4) Bush had not finished the last two years of his service in the Texas Air National Guard, avoiding service in Vietnam, but President Bush would go to enormous lengths to claim he had not gone AWOL, smearing everyone who said differently. Bush did not fulfill his obligations and should have been ordered to active duty in Vietnam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation


Despite points 1, 2, 3, and 4, the worthless assholes who would become Trumptards voted for Bush.



Bush voted for Harris.

The rest of your post is an argument supporting my argument, so thank you.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:12 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Bush voted for Harris.

The rest of your post is an argument supporting my argument, so thank you.

The kind of people who are stupid assholes will not believe that Trump is a rapist, a conman, a convicted criminal, a relentless liar, a man who never paid all of his income taxes. That kind of disbeliever in what is obvious is also the kind who voted for both Bush and Trump.

(This is a metaphysical comment but people who are obviously stupid assholes do not know they are stupid assholes, which makes it impossible for these stupid assholes to know why life isn't as rewarding as they imagine deserving.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:39 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Ed Kilgore has clearly lost his mind...

Democrats Were Crushed in 2004, Too. It Didn’t Last Long.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-were-crushed-in-2004
-too-it-didn-t-last-long/ar-AA1tXOWF




Two problems with your theory there, Eddie...

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

2. Democrats were crushed by the NeoCons because of 9/11. All of those NeoCons just walked across the aisle and announced to the world they were voting for Harris.


This trash that passes as journalism you have here is nothing but textbook false equivalency.

The kind that AI will be doing in your place soon.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.



Also ...

Since there was a historic, record-breaking discrepancy between exit polls and vote counts, and it only happened in swing states with electronic voting, and always in favor of Bush, statisticians said a chance result would be statistically impossible. They concluded that the RNC cheated, massively.

-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

So, are you for or against regulations?


Quote:

SECOND
Signym, you are not Erin Brockovich. Personal injury lawyers could do what your department would never attempt. But then the lawyers became fabulously wealthy, unlike employees in your department who get paid the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about pollution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich#Pacific_Gas_&_Electr
ic_litigation

Don't assume that bc we worked on salary we did a half-assed job. Our agency won criminal and civil cases worth tens of millions of dollars against large corporations with teams of highly paid lawyers. My dad, who also worked on salary, did the same with tax law. My colleagues and I, if we weren't pro-environment, were extremely professional. We didn't believe in doing half-assed jobs.

Quote:

SECOND:
Bringing this back around to the tax code, IRS employees make exactly the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about tax cheating. Unsurprisingly, that is why tax cheating runs to a trillion dollars per year.



No, you're bringing this around to enforcement. Again.

If you think doing a good job is personally motivated by money, you're mistaken.

Organizationally, we were prevented from adding fines to our operating budget. By law.
And who wrote that law?
Business.

So, back to tax code.

Can I deduct food, housing, utilities, insurances, interest payments, and ancillary expenses off my income?
No.

Can I depreciate my home, car, and other assets from my income?
No.

Can I register a domicile in Panama, and declare my "profits" there?
No.

These are just three differences between individual and business taxes, and doesn't get into the thousands of loopholes that BUSINESS wedged into tax law.

If tax code wasn't so lopsided and complicated, it would be easier to enforce. As it is, you need a team of tax law experts and forensic auditors to handle any large business.

It's called regulatory capture.

And you still obviously don't know how the real world works.
Son.


Back on topic ...


-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 6:13 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


On Wednesday, Donald Trump announced his intent to nominate Republican Congressman Matthew Gaetz to lead the Department of Justice. The congressman’s main experience with the DOJ comes from being investigated for the sex trafficking of a minor.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/matt-gaetz-donald-trump-at
torney-general-disaster.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 6:37 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump has vowed revenge. Start the pardons, President Biden

To the editor: Harry Litman relies on the wisdom of grand juries, juries and judges in protecting the subjects of President-elect Donald Trump's enemies list. However, even unsuccessful prosecutions could bankrupt many innocent "defendants." ("Will Trump launch a reign of terror against his list of enemies? There’s little to stop him," Opinion, Nov. 7)

The easiest way to provide all of "Trump's perceived enemies" with legal (and financial) protection from frivolous prosecution would be for President Biden to compile an enormous list of people to pardon before he leaves office, including prosecutors, judges, journalists, pollsters and others.

Jack Smith, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Adam Schiff, Kamala Harris, additional members and witnesses of the House Jan. 6 Committee and many others come to mind.

This won't eliminate the threats to democracy, but at least it might provide protection for some people.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2024-11-13
/trump-has-vowed-revenge-start-the-pardons-president-biden


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 6:58 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

We didn't believe in doing half-assed jobs.

Your words are not sufficient. Prove it. You won't because it does not happen the way you claim it does.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.

-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 9:06 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.

Nope. You prove you are competent rather than a half-ass, lazy government employee avoiding work, except when your superior is breathing down your neck. I won't do for you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 9:06 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


"If the exit polls are roughly accurate, about 19 million people who had voted for [Joe] Biden in 2020 just stayed home," Podhorzer writes. "And, again, if the exits are roughly accurate, nearly all of those who stayed home had said they were voting against Trump when they cast ballots in 2020."

Q: You are digging into the Biden 2020 “surge” voters, the infrequent voters who turned out for him in 2020 and did not turn out this year for Harris or flipped to Trump. Is there anything today that you can tell me about those voters?

A: In both the 2020 and 2024 exits, voters were asked whether their vote was mostly for the candidate they cast their ballot for or against the opponent. It’s really clear with the calculations that I have in there, that Harris pretty much kept those who had said they were voting “for” Biden four years ago, but really tanked with people who had said they were casting their ballot against Trump four years ago. Those people just stayed home. That’s about 20 million people.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/harris-trump-b
iden-why-democratic-turnout-cratered-1235164354
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 13, 2024 11:17 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Elect a clown, expect a circus: Hegseth, Gaetz, and Gabbard

Hegseth is a surprising pick to lead the most massive military bureaucracy in human history for a few reasons, including his assertion that women should not serve in combat roles; his successful lobbying during the first Trump administration for pardons for convicted and alleged war criminals; his description of “a war on two fronts” -- one against “radical Islamist ideology” and the other against “domestic enemies,” namely, “the Left”; his opposition to the supposed “infection” of left-wing policies in the military; and his assertion a few years ago that “the Iraq War is an example of what America got right when we got it right.”

Asked by one reporter if he thought Gaetz had the character and experience to be attorney general, Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) stared at them incredulously, waited six seconds to answer and then said, again, with a laugh: “Are you shittin’ me, that you asked that question? No. But hell, you’ll print that and now I’ll be investigated.”

After her failed presidential run in 2020, Gabbard left the Democratic Party (she seems to announce doing this at least once a week) and became something of a conservative celebrity, elevating transphobia, spreading Russian propaganda, and unsuccessfully endorsing Republicans.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/13/elect-a-clown-expect-a-cir
cus-hegseth-gaetz-and-gabbard
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 3:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

So, are you for or against regulations?



I am not. Simply because I don't trust anybody in control of enforcement. Especially not when our system of government can theoretically change overnight every 4 years with a whole new group of people who handle things entirely different than the last group did. How long has the EPA been around? Name one thing they've actually done for anybody other than make manufacturing anything in the USA so cost prohibitive that we just don't do that anymore unless we use more taxpayer dollars to subsidize the work.

And our government's go-to excuse is they aren't spending enough money and they need to keep growing these agencies to enforce laws that are already on the books. And they just keep passing more laws on top of the ones they already aren't enforcing. They're really just there to put the screws to somebody they don't like at this point, when it's so easy to just look the other way when you don't have a problem with them.

It's another shiny example of how something sounds like a good idea until you have human beings in control of it.

These crooked fucks have poisoned everything and continue to poison everything if the money is right.

I'm more worried about them outlawing half the poison they put directly in our foods.

Take a look at a bowl of Fruit Loops in the UK compared to ours. Our bowl of Fruit Loops looks radioactive compared to theirs with all those food dye colors that are banned everywhere else in the world because they're poison.


--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 5:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.


SIGNY: So, are you for or against regulations?

SIX: I am not.

Not for, or not against?

Quote:

SIX: Simply because I don't trust anybody in control of enforcement. Especially not when our system of government can theoretically change overnight every 4 years with a whole new group of people who handle things entirely different than the last group did. How long has the EPA been around? Name one thing they've actually done for anybody other than make manufacturing anything in the USA so cost prohibitive that we just don't do that anymore unless we use more taxpayer dollars to subsidize the work.
Are you fucking kidding? Air and water are a lot cleaner now. I hope your lack of knowledge is just bc you're too young to remember how it used to be.

Pollution control costs money, SIX. I've heard chrome platers say it's cheaper for them to ship their small parts to China and have them plated there and ship them back than to meet regulations. And they can spew out a powerful known (i.e. backed by human exposure data) carcinogen. If there was ever a chemical that needed control, that's one.

Every industry we ever regulated, from mom and pop dry cleaners, to national paint and coating manufacturers to oil refineries to household cleaning products manufacturers, has told us the same story. And, while it is sometimes exaggerated, businesses have closed down bc of regulation. Protection is not cost-free and will never be.

So, you want to be protected from microplastics? EPA is prohibited from regulating a chemical unless it's been shown to be harmful. Microplastics is so far down the list of concerns you're asking for the impossible. And if you think that's not right, be prepared to fight everyone from the chemical companies that make the precursors (monomers and oligomers) all the way down to plastic shopping bag manufacturers.


Quote:

SIX: And our government's go-to excuse is they aren't spending enough money and they need to keep growing these agencies to enforce laws that are already on the books. And they just keep passing more laws on top of the ones they already aren't enforcing. They're really just there to put the screws to somebody they don't like at this point, when it's so easy to just look the other way when you don't have a problem with them.

It's another shiny example of how something sounds like a good idea until you have human beings in control of it.

These crooked fucks have poisoned everything and continue to poison everything if the money is right.

The real cost isn't keeping the agencies running. You have an exaggerated view. The real cost is to business. Like I said, pollution control costs money.

And it's not the EPA that's poisoning you, SIX. It's industry. Bc they will do whatever, sell whatever, dump whatever, as long as it makes them money.

Quote:

SIX: I'm more worried about them outlawing half the poison they put directly in our foods.

Take a look at a bowl of Fruit Loops in the UK compared to ours. Our bowl of Fruit Loops looks radioactive compared to theirs with all those food dye colors that are banned everywhere else in the world because they're poison.



Yanno SIX, regulation would be so simple if agencies could simply say "don't".

Don't lend out more money than you can back with cash in the vault.

Don't sell shit that's bad for people. (BTW the big problem with Fruit Loops is the sugar. )

Don't spew pollution into the air and water and soil.

Don't make single-use, last-forever trash.

Don't put people's sensitive information on vulnerable servers.

Don't be a monopoly.

But then, every industry, every bank, every CEO, CFO, and CIO, will fight tooth and nail to protect THEIR niche, to carve out exceptions for themselves, and so we have the travesty that is Sarbanes Oxley, instead of Glass Steagall.

Can't ask to be protected but then make it impossible for that to take place and be cost free. You can't have it both ways.


-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 6:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?

Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.


I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 6:31 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?

Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.


I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

Wow! Your life history explained in few words. All Trumptards think they are smarter than everybody, but they have been poisoned/held-back/cheated by elites/government/bankers/environment/family/Mexicans/Chinese.
Only Trump can fix it.

“Early Warning Signs of Fascism.”
Based on research of the development of fascist regimes around the world by Laurence W. Britt, who wrote about the subject for the journal Free Inquiry, the list includes 14 items:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

2. Disdain For Human Rights

3. Identification of Enemies as a Unifying Cause

4. Supremacy of the Military

5. Rampant Sexism

6. Controlled Mass Media

7. Obsession with National Security

8. Religion and Government Intertwined

9. Corporate Power Protected

10. Labor Power Suppressed

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

14. Fraudulent Elections

https://www.thenation.com/premium/politics/raskin-impeachment-insurrec
tion
/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/holocaust-museum-warning-signs-fasci
sm
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 6:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The Cost-of-Living Crisis Explains Everything

The economy under Biden looked good but felt bad.

By Annie Lowrey | November 11, 2024

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/biden-harris-economy
-election-loss/680592
/

The Biden administration passed $3 trillion of legislation aimed at revitalizing the American economy and fostering green, equitable, “middle-out” growth. It sent checks to voters, canceled student-loan debt, made direct deposits to parents, showered the country in tax credits, and financed the construction of roads, transmission lines, and bridges. Kamala Harris ran as Joe Biden’s successor in the midst of what some financial analysts described as the greatest economy ever, characterized by strong wage growth, low unemployment, falling inequality, and world-beating GDP.

Harris’s loss has spurred finger-pointing, soul-searching, and garment-rending. For years, thinkers on the left had urged the White House to not just talk about popular issues but also deliver on them—a concept referred to by wonks as deliverism. The Biden-Harris team embraced the idea, and many staffers believed they’d delivered.

Deliverism is just a long word for one of the most basic tenets of electoral politics, buttressed by decades of studies as well as by common sense: Make voters richer, win more of them. Why, if Biden did that, did the Democrats lose?

“When the economy does well for most households, and when programs help create security and opportunity for more people to participate in that economy, political rewards follow,” Mark Schmitt of New America wrote the week before the election, when polls showed the contest as close but likely lost for the liberal side. “What I’m looking for in the 2024 election is some indication of whether this feedback loop still works at all, and if not, whether we can ever hope to recreate some connection” between policy and politics.

Democrats may be tempted now to answer in the negative. But there is a strong case to be made that the 2024 election demonstrates that the feedback loop between policy choices and electoral outcomes does in fact endure—even if it is weakening and weirding. The issue is not that deliverism failed. It is that Democrats convinced themselves that they had delivered, without listening to the voters telling them they had not.

If you look at the headline economic statistics, Donald Trump’s broad-based and definitive win makes little sense. The jobless rate has been below 4.5 percent for three years. The inflation rate has been subdued for more than a year. Real wages—meaning wages adjusted for inflation—are climbing for all workers, and particularly the lowest-income workers. Inequality is easing. The stock market is on fire. Productivity is strong, and start-ups are booming. The United States’ GDP growth rate is double that of the European Union.

The Biden administration helped create that economy. With a narrow legislative window, the administration nevertheless passed a gigantic COVID stimulus bill, the American Rescue Plan. It sent $1,400 checks to millions of families, provided thousands of dollars to parents to defray child-care costs, and shored up local-government coffers.

Then it passed a trio of heavy-infrastructure bills aimed at reshoring the semiconductor industry, transitioning businesses and homes to green energy, and fixing up transportation infrastructure across the country. Biden staffers talked about the trio as a kind of New Deal Lite. Folks might “one day come to remember this as the Big Deal,” Pete Buttigieg, the transportation secretary and eternal political hopeful, told The New Yorker this past summer. “Its bigness is the defining factor.”

Yet one could select other defining factors, among them the infrastructure bills’ lack of easy-to-grasp deliverables. I cover economic policy. I would be hard-pressed to explain what constitutes the Big Deal without putting someone to sleep; when I summarize the legislation, I often say “green-energy stuff.” Moreover, many of those deliverables were not instantaneous; today, it is hard, though certainly not impossible, to point to projects that Bidenomics built. “Much of the work we’ve done is already being felt by the American people, but the vast majority of it will be felt over the next ten years,” Biden said on X last week.

The much bigger issue has to do with the Biden-Harris administration’s social policies and the economy it fostered. To be clear, the headline economic numbers are strong. The gains are real. The reduction in inequality is tremendous, the pickup in wage growth astonishing, particularly if you anchor your expectations to the Barack Obama years, as many Biden staffers do.

But headline economic figures have become less and less of a useful guide to how actual families are doing—something repeatedly noted by Democrats during the Obama recovery and the Trump years. Inequality may be declining, but it still skews GDP and income figures, with most gains going to the few, not the many. The obscene cost of health care saps family incomes and government coffers without making anyone feel healthier or wealthier.

During the Biden-Harris years, more granular data pointed to considerable strain. Real median household income fell relative to its pre-COVID peak. The poverty rate ticked up, as did the jobless rate. The number of Americans spending more than 30 percent of their income on rent climbed. The delinquency rate on credit cards surged, as did the share of families struggling to afford enough nutritious food, as did the rate of homelessness.

Government transfers buoyed families early in the Biden administration. But they contributed to inflation, and much of the money went away in the second half of Biden’s term. The food-stamp boost, the extended child tax credit, the big unemployment-insurance payments—each expired. And the White House never passed the permanent care-economy measures it had considered.

Interest rates were a problem too. The mortgage rate more than doubled during the Biden-Harris years, making credit-card balances, car payments, and homes unaffordable. A family purchasing a $400,000 apartment with 20 percent down would pay roughly $2,500 a month today versus $1,800 three years ago.

Indeed, the biggest problem, one that voters talked about at any given opportunity, was the unaffordability of American life. The giant run-up in inflation during the Biden administration made everything feel expensive, and the sudden jump in the cost of small-ticket, common purchases (such as fast food and groceries) highlighted how bad the country’s long-standing large-ticket, sticky costs (health care, child care, and housing) had gotten. The cost-of-living crisis became the defining issue of the campaign, and one where the incumbent Democrats’ messaging felt false and weak.

Rather than acknowledging the pain and the trade-offs and the complexity—and rather than running a candidate who could have criticized Biden’s economic plans—Democrats dissembled. They noted that inflation was a global phenomenon, as if that mattered to moms in Ohio and machinists in the Central Valley. They pushed the headline numbers. They insisted that working-class voters were better off, and ran on the threat Trump posed to democracy and rights. But were working-class voters really better off? Why wasn’t anyone listening when they said they weren’t?

A better economy might not have delivered the gains that Democrats once could have relied on. Voters do seem to be less likely to vote in their economic self-interest these days, and more likely to vote for a culturally compelling candidate. As my colleague Rogé Karma notes, lower-income white voters are flipping from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party on the basis of identitarian issues. The sharp movement of union voters to Trump seems to confirm the trend. At the same time, high-income voters are becoming bluer in order to vote their cosmopolitan values.

But I would not assume that we are in a post-material world just yet. “You got to tell people in plain, simple, straightforward language what it is you’re doing to help,” Biden said after passing his sweeping COVID rescue bill. “You have to be able to tell a story, tell the story of what you’re about to do and why it matters, because it’s going to make a difference in the lives of millions of people and in very concrete, specific ways.”

The Biden-Harris administration did make a difference in concrete, specific ways: It failed to address the cost-of-living catastrophe and had little to show for its infrastructure laws, even if it found a lot to talk about. And it dismissed voters who said they hated the pain they felt every time they had to open their wallet.

No wonder voters decided to see what Donald Trump might deliver.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 6:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?

Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.


I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

Wow! Your life history explained in few words.



Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.

The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.

You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.




And it looks like both CNN and MSNBC are going to be purging a lot of people over the next few months, so maybe you won't have them telling you to be an asshole every day.

Check out what Joy Reid said on a TikTok video in the last 48 hours. My guess is she's one of the first major firings for that.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 7:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


POPULAR VOTE:

75,870,227 for Trump (50.2%) / 72,856,990 for Harris (48.2%).

Total votes counted: 148,727,217

Trump's lead: 3,013,237



California: 13% left
Oregon: 9% left
Washington D.C.: 8% left
Utah: 7% left
Maryland: 4% left
Alaska: 5% left
Washington: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 4% left
New York: 3% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nevada: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left



Compared to the 2020 election:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 6,779,068 now.

Trump now has 1,646,858 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 8,425,926 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.





NOTE: I don't think that Google's count of California was particularly accurate. Now they're saying that only 13% of California remains, which would only be around 1.78 Million more votes. That would now get us down to only 5 Million less votes than 2020, but when I did the math yesterday for what California had left that would have gotten us down to only 4.3 Million without any votes from other states.

So there will be less votes in 2024 than in 2020, which we already knew there would be. But it may end up being close to 5 Million when I was thinking under 4 Million just yesterday.


--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 9:03 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.

The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.

You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.


Look around you, 6ix. A majority of Americans are suffering great difficulties in life because they are goddamn idiots more than half out of their minds. This includes 6ix, you fucking little Nazi who worships Fuhrer Donald Trump:

6ixStringJack is silly to write the following but what he wrote follows from “Only Trump can fix it (if and when he condescends to solve it).”

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65275&mid=12055
77#1205577


Monday, November 11, 2024 5:32 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My prediction is that Trump settles the Ukraine/Russia as well as the Israel/Palestine conflicts before he's inaugurated.

Wouldn't it be great if he invited Putin, Zelensky, Netanyahu, Abbas and even have Kim Jong Un around to watch and enjoy the party after the Inauguration?

They seem a lot more open to conversations on all sides now that the screaming kids were sent to their room and Daddy is home.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 10:25 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Conservative Judge Luttig: American voters ‘do not care’ about Trump’s misdeeds

By Ella Lee - 11/13/24 9:50 PM ET

https://thehill.com/homenews/4989843-conservative-judge-luttig-america
n-voters-do-not-care-about-trumps-misdeeds
/

American voters are unfazed by President-elect Trump’s various misdeeds, said retired federal Judge J. Michael Luttig, a longtime conservative jurist who has vocally opposed the former president.

“The American voters do not care about who, as an individual, is in the White House,” Luttig said Wednesday evening during a panel hosted by the Society for the Rule of Law.

“They don’t care, in this instance, what this man has done for the past eight years,” he said. “They could care less that he’s the first American president ever to be indicted for grave crimes against the United States of America…They do not care about his views on women. They do not care about any of this.”

It’s one of many lessons to be learned from the presidential election, he said, explaining that Republicans successfully convinced the American electorate that “nothing mattered” from Trump’s previous term and he ran on a “clean slate.”

“And the American people bought it,” he said. “Hook, line and sinker.”

“For the first time in American history, an American president has corrupted democracy itself and the rule of law in America,” Luttig said Wednesday. “And he got away with it, on Nov. 5, 2024.”

Trump won both the electoral college and popular votes in November’s contests. Luttig called the outcome “terrible for the country.”

“But sometimes people have to learn the hard way,” the retired judge said. “And that’s what’s happening.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 12:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.

The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.

You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.


Look around you, 6ix. A majority of Americans are suffering great difficulties in life because they are goddamn idiots more than half out of their minds. This includes 6ix, you fucking little Nazi who worships Fuhrer Donald Trump:

6ixStringJack is silly to write the following but what he wrote follows from “Only Trump can fix it (if and when he condescends to solve it).”

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65275&mid=12055
77#1205577


Monday, November 11, 2024 5:32 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My prediction is that Trump settles the Ukraine/Russia as well as the Israel/Palestine conflicts before he's inaugurated.

Wouldn't it be great if he invited Putin, Zelensky, Netanyahu, Abbas and even have Kim Jong Un around to watch and enjoy the party after the Inauguration?

They seem a lot more open to conversations on all sides now that the screaming kids were sent to their room and Daddy is home.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Thank you for bumping my opinions.

They're far more thought out than any of the trite bullshit sloganeering and mindless platitudes about nothing that you shit out all over the place everyday.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 1:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.




-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 1:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?

Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.


I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

IMHO fatalism is just an excuse. We're ALL gonna die of something, SIX. If you truly believe it doesn't make any difference what you do, then just stop taking your insulin.

Or recognize and accept that you're rationalizing, for whatever reason. You'll think about/do something about some things but not other things of equal importance ... and be honest about it.

FWIW everyone I met from other regional, state, and Federal agencies was an intelligent, honest, and diligent worker. Of course, I only met tech people, and only up to about the manager level. If their agencies were like ours, the higher you went the more crooked it got, and once politicians were involved...

But it's like ICE: the problems start at the top.

-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 3:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?

Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.


I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

IMHO fatalism is just an excuse. We're ALL gonna die of something, SIX. If you truly believe it doesn't make any difference what you do, then just stop taking your insulin.



Not really a fair comparison. Smoking is going to kill me 10 or 20 years or more from now. I'd be dead in a month if I stopped taking insulin.

On a macro-scale, that's exactly how they operate. If any of that stuff killed us immediately or anything close to it, we wouldn't be exposed to it.


Quote:

Or recognize and accept that you're rationalizing, for whatever reason. You'll think about/do something about some things but not other things of equal importance ... and be honest about it.


I have nothing to rationalize. I honestly do not want to quit smoking.

Quote:

FWIW everyone I met from other regional, state, and Federal agencies was an intelligent, honest, and diligent worker. Of course, I only met tech people, and only up to about the manager level. If their agencies were like ours, the higher you went the more crooked it got, and once politicians were involved...


Well right. Your average worker isn't ambitious enough to be evil. Most are just lazy and self-serving.

Quote:

But it's like ICE: the problems start at the top.



Probably not always though.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 5:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Most are just lazy and self-serving.
Not the ppl who worked for me. Not the ppl from other agencies that I met. And, since we rotated ppl thru thru sections, sooner or later everyone passed thru my group. Out of a staff of 6-14 people, at various times I did have some problem people. One was really ill, one was drinking and just a tad oppositional, one had ADHD (he really, really needed some chemical help. Analysis requires ppl to pay attention for long periods of time). One was a Hispanic snowflake, sensitive as all shit... she filed 29 complaints in HR against against a wide variety of people! As a group, the Taiwanese ladies from the upper crust were entitled, but Thai and Burmese weren't.
But overall I got good work out of everyone except Mr ADHD. His problem was ...is stil.. intrinsic and uncorrected.

It IS very, very hard to fire people. The process is ridiculously long and complicated. But if you cross t's and dot i's you can get all the way thru. I did.



-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 6:35 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It IS very, very hard to fire people. The process is ridiculously long and complicated. But if you cross t's and dot i's you can get all the way thru. I did.

It is straightforward to fire people on construction projects. Suppose you don't, and I have seen projects where they weren't fired because of softhearted concerns about the families of worthless craftsmen and subcontractors who couldn't keep a promise even if they tried hard. In those cases, the projects bog down, go years beyond schedule, and are far over budget, which happens all the time on government-run projects.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 6:35 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Researchers at the Peterson Institute for International Economics estimate that if Trump succeeds in deporting 8 million people, U.S. GDP would contract by more than 7 percent by 2028. Mass deportations would also likely trigger another round of inflation—the Peterson report believes that it could add up to 3 percent on top of whatever the baseline is.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/mass-deportations-w
ould-harm-us-economy


The Yale Budget Lab estimates more than 5 percent inflation from the more extreme versions of Trump’s tariff scenarios.

https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/fiscal-macroeconomic-and-price-est
imates-tariffs-under-both-non-retaliation-and-retaliation


Trump has very strong incentives to do what he always does: claim victory despite not actually getting anywhere near achieving his goals. The best thing Trump could do for himself is to do nothing but claim he succeeded.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-economy-immigration-
deportations-tariffs.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 14, 2024 11:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It IS very, very hard to fire people. The process is ridiculously long and complicated. But if you cross t's and dot i's you can get all the way thru. I did.

It is straightforward to fire people on construction projects. Suppose you don't, and I have seen projects where they weren't fired because of softhearted concerns about the families of worthless craftsmen and subcontractors who couldn't keep a promise even if they tried hard. In those cases, the projects bog down, go years beyond schedule, and are far over budget, which happens all the time on government-run projects.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


SECOND once again reveals that he doesn't understand how the real world works.

Unfortunately, government projects today aren't initiated to actually do anything, they're just there to throw money to some preferred contractors/ businesses. And they get tangled up in DEI/ small contractor/ minority -veteran- woman owned considerations, so the best company for a job doesn't get selected.

Look at Build Back Better AKA Inflation Reduction Act.

Quote:

Since the start of the Biden-Harris Administration, USDA has invested more than $2.7 billion through REAP in 9,901 renewable energy and energy efficiency improvements. Almost 7,000 of these projects were funded by over $1 billion provided by the Inflation Reduction Act.
Have we measurably improved our energy sustainability, or improved living standards or added jobs in depressed rural communities?

And what about push to EV? Does that really reduce CO2 emissions? This is just a grab-bag of kneejerk projects designed to appease important Congresspeople. We don't have a well thought-out program to ... for example... capture the methane that we're currently flaring and use it to replace coal burning power stations.

-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 15, 2024 8:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Adam Kinzinger crying, still having hissy fits


Remember when Adam Kinzinger was so fucking stupid that he thought a troll comedian Sam Hyde was the Ghost of Kyiv and was shooting down all the Russians and winning Top Gun style.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 15, 2024 11:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


illegal immigrants and crime

Murdered nursing student Laken Riley’s horrifying 911 call played in court — leaving her mom in a flood of tears
https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/us-news/murdered-nursing-student-laken-r
ileys-horrifying-911-call-played-in-court-leaving-her-mom-in-a-flood-of-tears
/

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 15, 2024 2:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Adam Kinzinger crying, still having hissy fits


Remember when Adam Kinzinger was so fucking stupid that he thought a troll comedian Sam Hyde was the Ghost of Kyiv and was shooting down all the Russians and winning Top Gun style.



I'd heard the name Sam Hyde a few times over the years. It wasn't until I saw a video about the whole thing a few months ago that I knew what it was all about. What a joke.

Seems kind of crazy in retrospect how deep they went into Sam's life, several times over the same photo years apart, but we find out they knew all about these wackjob tranny school shooters but they just let that shit happen over and over again.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 15, 2024 3:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


POPULAR VOTE:

76,077,170 for Trump (50.1%) / 73,145,999 votes for Harris (48.2%).

Total votes counted: 149,223,169

Trump's lead: 2,931,171



California: 11% left
Oregon: 5% left
Washington D.C.: 2% left
Utah: 7% left
Maryland: 4% left
Alaska: 5% left
Washington: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Illinois: 2% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left



Compared to the 2020 election:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 6,283,116 now.

Trump now has 1,853,801 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 8,136,917 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.




--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 15, 2024 5:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No real movement in the House seats today. California is slow walking their last 4.

I think it's pretty safe to say the Alaska seat goes Republican and the Maine seat goes Democrat. There may be a recount in Maine it's so tight. 99% counted right now and they still haven't called it with a .5% lead by the Democrat.

I think Republicans will get 1 of the last 4 California seats (D13). Virtual tie in another one of them with 50% each at 90% of the vote counted in District 45.

Republicans should have 220. Maybe they eek out 221.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 15, 2024 11:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So how is Democracy doing guys? It's still alive, right? Did the sun still rise today?

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, November 16, 2024 4:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


POPULAR VOTE:

76,398,185 for Trump (50.1%) / 73,688,756 votes for Harris (48.3%).

Total votes counted: 150,086,941

Trump's lead: 2,709,429



California: 7% left (Just shy of 1.1 Million votes left)
Oregon: 4% left
Washington D.C.: 2% left
Utah: 4% left
Maryland: 3% left
Alaska: 4% left
Washington: 4% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Illinois: 2% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left



Compared to the 2020 election:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 5,419,344 now.

Trump now has 2,174,816 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 7,594,160 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.


--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, November 16, 2024 4:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No real movement in the House seats today. California is slow walking their last 4.

I think it's pretty safe to say the Alaska seat goes Republican and the Maine seat goes Democrat. There may be a recount in Maine it's so tight. 99% counted right now and they still haven't called it with a .5% lead by the Democrat.

I think Republicans will get 1 of the last 4 California seats (D13). Virtual tie in another one of them with 50% each at 90% of the vote counted in District 45.

Republicans should have 220. Maybe they eek out 221.



2 of the 4 California seats that I figured would go Democrat have and so did the seat in Maine.


Alaska tightened up, but with 98% counted the Republican is still leading by 3 points. This probably should have been called for Republicans already. It will soon.

The two in California are way too close to call. 50/50 split still in D45 with 90% counted. 50.6 R / 49.4 D in D13 with 87% counted.


I think the most likely scenario now is 221 R / 214 D.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 17, 2024 7:52 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Filmmaker Michael Moore slammed all of America as “not a good people” following President-elect Donald Trump’s election win over Kamala Harris.

Falling quiet in the days since Trump’s decisive election win, Moore broke his silence by lashing out at his fellow Americans in a Substack post.

“If you stop and think about it, we’ve come up with a lot of doozies in our history. Like the genocide of 20 million Native Americans. Or the enslavement of 12 million kidnapped Africans. Or us invading Vietnam and killing 4 million Asian people for no reason at all. We are not a good people.”

“We have a non-stop cavalcade, a sordid laundry list of evil deeds that led us directly to last week, to the point where we the people, by popular vote, elected a 34-time convicted felon, a fascist, and a civilly charged and convicted sexual abuser to be our 47th president of the United States.”

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/hey-if-you-can-kill-20-million-native

Poor Michael Moore lumps all Americans into one group. I guess Moore lost track of how one particular group, the Trumptards, have always been anxiety filled, going back to childhood. If he delved into the numbers he's see it is these particular Americans, not all, who waste their lives in silly ways, hour by hour, day after day, for decades, until they drop dead early from the many stupid decisions fearful people made because what else could they do? They lack the purposefulness and grit that successful Americans have.

But there are other opinions about why Trump won.

"I want to remind everyone that only about 3% of the electorate switched from D to R this year—less in swing states. So regardless of whether you think the culprit was cultural issues or the economy or misogyny or Latino defections or a bad campaign—no matter which it is, it only had to influence 2-3% of the voting public."
https://jabberwocking.com/the-3-solution/

If Michael Moore dug even deeper, he'd see that Americans regularly flip back-and-forth, dithering and blithering: "These things tend to be thermostatic. After a few years people get tired of whichever ideology is ascendant and switch to the other one for a while."
https://jabberwocking.com/the-choice-between-two-scary-extremes-is-usu
ally-a-move-to-the-right
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 17, 2024 8:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Filmmaker Michael Moore



is an idiot and nobody cares.

Quote:

But there are other opinions about why Trump won.

"I want to remind everyone that only about 3% of the electorate switched from D to R this year—less in swing states. So regardless of whether you think the culprit was cultural issues or the economy or misogyny or Latino defections or a bad campaign—no matter which it is, it only had to influence 2-3% of the voting public."
https://jabberwocking.com/the-3-solution/



But Kevin Drum is a much bigger idiot by comparison.

USA Today would beg to differ with his 3% theory.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/11/15/how-did-america-vot
e-2024-election-analysis/76292995007
/

Maybe Kevin should look at the Popular Vote. That doesn't happen with a 3% change in a couple of counties.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE
second 11.21 05:47
second 11.21 05:47
6ixStringJack 11.21 06:06
6ixStringJack 11.21 06:27

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
English Common Law legalizes pedophilia in USA
Thu, November 21, 2024 11:42 - 8 posts
The parallel internet is coming
Thu, November 21, 2024 11:28 - 178 posts
Is the United States of America a CHRISTIAN Nation and if Not...then what comes after
Thu, November 21, 2024 10:33 - 21 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Thu, November 21, 2024 10:17 - 7469 posts
The Rise and Fall of Western Civilisation
Thu, November 21, 2024 10:12 - 51 posts
Biden* to punish border agents who were found NOT whipping illegal migrants
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:55 - 26 posts
Hip-Hop Artist Lauryn Hill Blames Slavery for Tax Evasion
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:52 - 11 posts
GOP House can't claim to speak for America
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:50 - 12 posts
How Safe is Canada
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:45 - 121 posts
Spooky Music Weird Horror Songs...Tis ...the Season...... to be---CREEPY !
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:39 - 57 posts
'Belarus' and Nuclear Escalation
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:29 - 20 posts
confused Lame duck Presidency, outgoing politicians in politics
Thu, November 21, 2024 09:22 - 7 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL