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Elections; 2024

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 8:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. We won't know what the actual popular vote was until after New Years at the rate Democrats count.

75,175,276 for Trump / 71,933,375 for Harris.

That's like 80,000 votes counted in almost 2.5 hours.

Why are you so broken, West Coast?



We've gotten a pretty decent amount more in the following few hours...

75,405,508 for Trump / 72,270,039 for Harris.

Total votes counted: 147,675,547

Trump's lead: 3,135,469



California: 22% left
Alaska: 20% left
Oregon: 12% left
Utah: 11% left
Maryland: 7% left
Washington: 7% left
Washington D.C.: 7% left
Arizona: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 4% left
Nevada: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left





Compared to the 2020 election:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 7,830,738 now.

Trump now has 1,182,139 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 9,012,877 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.


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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 8:54 PM

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Quick breakdown of California since most of the remaining votes are coming from there...


Harris: 7,995,458 votes (58.9%)

Trump: 5,180,722 votes (38.1%)

Total: 13,176,180 votes

22% remain... (16,892,539 would be an exact number. We'll call it 16.75 Million to be conservative).


That gives us another 3,573,820 yet to come out of California.

Out of those, using the existing percentage splits, the candidates will get the following of the remaining votes...

Trump: 1,361,625

Harris: 2,104,980


If we add these numbers to the existing totals, that will be fairly close to the final numbers with what little else still needs to be counted outside of California.


Popular Vote Count with California projected and figured in:

Trump: 76,767,133

Harris: 74,375,019

Trump's lead: 2,392,114 (If California were 100% counted today with the same splits toward each candidate).

Total Vote: 151,142,152


With California counted, the popular vote would now only be 4,364,133 less than it was in 2020. It will still be less than that with the stuff in other states that still needs to be counted.

We're already way under less than 1/3rd of what YouTube commentators were claiming was the difference.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 9:00 PM

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Republicans got a pickup in there somewhere. 219R / 209D.

(Ah... looks to be one of the 3 in California I said were leaning that way)

Maybe they get a buffer or two after all.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 10:15 PM

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Fox talking head is our new Secretary of Defense

Is this a joke?

President-elect Donald Trump chose Pete Hegseth, who is a combat veteran and co-host on the weekend edition of “Fox & Friends,” to be his defense secretary.

Hegseth has no defense experience—aside from having lots of opinions. He has no government experience and no experience dealing with the Pentagon bureaucracy. He's never run anything bigger than a broom closet. Even at Fox he's only junior varsity, co-hosting the weekend edition of Fox & Friends.

On the other hand, he sure looks like a cabinet secretary. And he agrees with Donald Trump a lot. I suppose that might be good enough for a press secretary, but heading up the biggest, most complex organization in the federal government? You'd think that even the most servile Republican senators might think twice before letting a Fox talking head run the Defense Department. It's considered a pretty important job in some circles.



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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 10:36 PM

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Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.

Don't use Google.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:23 AM

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Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.

Don't use Google.

Procurement. A trillion dollars per year.

When you think about the money involved in defense, won't a multi-billionaire be the better choice?

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Trump is assembling ultra-rich dream team to run the country

https://eedition.houstonchronicle.com/infinity/article_popover_share.a
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In billionaires, we trust.

President-elect Donald Trump and his new best friend, Elon Musk, are assembling a dream team to lead the nation. The world’s billionaires, including many Texans, are advising them on who to hire or signing up themselves.

In 2017, Trump formed the wealthiest Cabinet in history, and he’s doing it again.

Voters in 2024 rejected experts, especially economists, scientists, generals, journalists and others who spend their lives gathering knowledge to make the world a better place. Trump convinced Americans to misplace the blame for the nation’s problems on those dedicated to addressing them.

I understand why people admire successful capitalists, but past performance on Wall Street does not guarantee future success in Washington.

Howard Lutnick, the billionaire CEO of trading firm Cantor Fitzgerald, is Trump’s headhunter in chief, co-chairing the transition team. Gary Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs president and chief economic adviser in Trump’s last administration, is helping connect Wall Street talent to Trumpworld. They are not working on behalf of the working class.

Priority number one is getting Wall Street executives back in the top roles. In the Biden administration, Lina Khan has led the Federal Trade Commission to slow the monopolistic mega-mergers that hurt consumers. At the same time, Securities and Exchange Commission boss Gary Gensler has tried to corral some of the abuses in commodities trading, particularly in cryptocurrencies.

Stock and crypto prices jumped in anticipation of Trump ending commonsense financial industry regulation. He has promised to install the most capitalist-friendly administration in world history.

Trump is considering a hedge fund manager, Scott Bessent, to lead the Treasury Department. Bessent, who attended Trump’s victory party, has promised the administration will slash business regulations so corporations can make more money, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Many of these executives recognize the risks Trump’s stated policies pose to the global economy. But like so many Trump supporters, they don’t think he’ll follow through on punishing tariffs or mass deportations. These billionaires believe that staying in Trump’s good graces will allow them to bend his will toward symbolic gestures rather than actual implementation.

Musk is the highest-profile Texas billionaire in Trump’s orbit, but he’s not alone. Oil and gas moguls were anxious to roll back President Joe Biden’s policies to slow climate change and unleash fossil fuel emissions.

Kelcy Warren, co-founder and chairman of Energy Transfer Partners, operates one of the nation’s largest fossil fuel pipeline companies. He invested more than $15 million in pro-Trump political action committees, the watchdog group Open Secrets reported.

Tim Dunn, who recently sold his oil and gas company, gave Trump’s Make America Great Again PAC $5 million. He’s been deeply involved with Christian nationalist groups in Texas for some time and only recently branched out across the nation, giving $18 million this year to a conservative PAC called the Jefferson Rising Fund that supports Trump allies.

Houston billionaire and Hilcorp CEO, Jeff Hildebrand, hosted Trump fundraisers where he helped raise millions from the oil and gas industry. Casino and hospitality magnate Tilman Fertitta gave more than $370,000 to the Republican National Committee and other Trump-affiliated groups.

If you think any of these billionaires support Trump lowering consumer prices or addressing income inequality, you’re mistaken. Business leaders understand that bringing prices down, called deflation, wreaks havoc on the economy and destroys profits.

Many of Trump’s largest donors and most fervent supporters have conflicting interests. Musk is a climate change activist who owes his fortune to cutting fossil fuel consumption and colonizing other planets because we are ruining this one.

Musk’s electric vehicle, renewable energy and energy storage businesses all rely on federal rules to fight climate change that oil barons hate.

Many voters believed Trump when he promised energy prices will go down after he wipes out environmental regulations and climate considerations weighing on the fossil fuel industry. However, the biggest problem facing oil and natural gas is low prices due to oversupply.

“A combination of slower demand growth and robust supply will push the market into oversupply, even with OPEC continuing to voluntarily keep barrels sidelined,” Houston investment bank TPH warned investors. “Our lower price forecast … will push U.S. producers to continue to decelerate growth.”

If energy prices drop, they will not stay there long because producers will cut supply to stop losing money.

America voted for the billionaires, a group not known for altruism or empathy. They will undoubtedly shake up the economy. We’ll see who lasts and who benefits.

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Former Trump White House attorney Ty Cobb on Tuesday said it would be a “tragic event” that would have ramifications worldwide if President-elect Donald Trump follows through on his 2024 campaign promise to pardon the Jan. 6, 2021 rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol in his name.

The move would further demean “the rule of law to those of us in this country, and it’s not going to go unseen around the world,” the lawyer warned.

“I mean, this is the type of conduct that, when viewed internationally, makes it impossible to distinguish the United States from a third-world country or, you know, a South American dictatorship,” he feared. “This is really lawlessness of the highest order, and there’s no principal basis for it. I think it’d be a very sad event.”

https://www.rawstory.com/ty-cobb-trump-2669865494/

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:52 AM

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Russia is claiming credit for Trump’s win.

Russia’s intelligence chief, Nikolai Patrushev, made the following comment in an interview with the Moscow newspaper Kommersant:

The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.

The Russians are basically telling Trump: We put you in office. Now it’s time for you to pay us back.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-election-results-pat
rushev-putin-rubio-russia-ukraine.html


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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 9:08 AM

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Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.

Don't use Google.

Procurement. A trillion dollars per year.

When you think about the money involved in defense, won't a multi-billionaire be the better choice?



I suppose that it depends on exactly what it is you want that person to be up to if you are their boss.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 9:13 AM

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Ed Kilgore has clearly lost his mind...

Democrats Were Crushed in 2004, Too. It Didn’t Last Long.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-were-crushed-in-2004
-too-it-didn-t-last-long/ar-AA1tXOWF




Two problems with your theory there, Eddie...

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

2. Democrats were crushed by the NeoCons because of 9/11. All of those NeoCons just walked across the aisle and announced to the world they were voting for Harris.


This trash that passes as journalism you have here is nothing but textbook false equivalency.

The kind that AI will be doing in your place soon.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 1:54 PM

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1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

Before the 2004 election, several things were known about Bush:

1) There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but WMDs were Bush's justification for war.

2) The U.S. Army was torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Iraqi civilians were being killed by the hundreds of thousands.

3) Osama bin Laden had not been captured, but his capture was Bush's justification for war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the next country to the East of Afghanistan, where Obama would kill him on May 2, 2011.

4) Bush had not finished the last two years of his service in the Texas Air National Guard, avoiding service in Vietnam, but President Bush would go to enormous lengths to claim he had not gone AWOL, smearing everyone who said differently. Bush did not fulfill his obligations and should have been ordered to active duty in Vietnam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation


Despite points 1, 2, 3, and 4, the worthless assholes who would become Trumptards voted for Bush.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

Before the 2004 election, several things were known about Bush:

1) There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but WMDs were Bush's justification for war.

2) The U.S. Army was torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Iraqi civilians were being killed by the hundreds of thousands.

3) Osama bin Laden had not been captured, but his capture was Bush's justification for war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the next country to the East of Afghanistan, where Obama would kill him on May 2, 2011.

4) Bush had not finished the last two years of his service in the Texas Air National Guard, avoiding service in Vietnam, but President Bush would go to enormous lengths to claim he had not gone AWOL, smearing everyone who said differently. Bush did not fulfill his obligations and should have been ordered to active duty in Vietnam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation


Despite points 1, 2, 3, and 4, the worthless assholes who would become Trumptards voted for Bush.



Bush voted for Harris.

The rest of your post is an argument supporting my argument, so thank you.



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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:12 PM

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Bush voted for Harris.

The rest of your post is an argument supporting my argument, so thank you.

The kind of people who are stupid assholes will not believe that Trump is a rapist, a conman, a convicted criminal, a relentless liar, a man who never paid all of his income taxes. That kind of disbeliever in what is obvious is also the kind who voted for both Bush and Trump.

(This is a metaphysical comment but people who are obviously stupid assholes do not know they are stupid assholes, which makes it impossible for these stupid assholes to know why life isn't as rewarding as they imagine deserving.)

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:39 PM

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Quote:

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Ed Kilgore has clearly lost his mind...

Democrats Were Crushed in 2004, Too. It Didn’t Last Long.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-were-crushed-in-2004
-too-it-didn-t-last-long/ar-AA1tXOWF




Two problems with your theory there, Eddie...

1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.

2. Democrats were crushed by the NeoCons because of 9/11. All of those NeoCons just walked across the aisle and announced to the world they were voting for Harris.


This trash that passes as journalism you have here is nothing but textbook false equivalency.

The kind that AI will be doing in your place soon.

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Also ...

Since there was a historic, record-breaking discrepancy between exit polls and vote counts, and it only happened in swing states with electronic voting, and always in favor of Bush, statisticians said a chance result would be statistically impossible. They concluded that the RNC cheated, massively.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 2:41 PM

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All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.



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So, are you for or against regulations?


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Signym, you are not Erin Brockovich. Personal injury lawyers could do what your department would never attempt. But then the lawyers became fabulously wealthy, unlike employees in your department who get paid the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about pollution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich#Pacific_Gas_&_Electr
ic_litigation

Don't assume that bc we worked on salary we did a half-assed job. Our agency won criminal and civil cases worth tens of millions of dollars against large corporations with teams of highly paid lawyers. My dad, who also worked on salary, did the same with tax law. My colleagues and I, if we weren't pro-environment, were extremely professional. We didn't believe in doing half-assed jobs.

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Bringing this back around to the tax code, IRS employees make exactly the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about tax cheating. Unsurprisingly, that is why tax cheating runs to a trillion dollars per year.



No, you're bringing this around to enforcement. Again.

If you think doing a good job is personally motivated by money, you're mistaken.

Organizationally, we were prevented from adding fines to our operating budget. By law.
And who wrote that law?
Business.

So, back to tax code.

Can I deduct food, housing, utilities, insurances, interest payments, and ancillary expenses off my income?
No.

Can I depreciate my home, car, and other assets from my income?
No.

Can I register a domicile in Panama, and declare my "profits" there?
No.

These are just three differences between individual and business taxes, and doesn't get into the thousands of loopholes that BUSINESS wedged into tax law.

If tax code wasn't so lopsided and complicated, it would be easier to enforce. As it is, you need a team of tax law experts and forensic auditors to handle any large business.

It's called regulatory capture.

And you still obviously don't know how the real world works.
Son.


Back on topic ...


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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 6:13 PM

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On Wednesday, Donald Trump announced his intent to nominate Republican Congressman Matthew Gaetz to lead the Department of Justice. The congressman’s main experience with the DOJ comes from being investigated for the sex trafficking of a minor.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/matt-gaetz-donald-trump-at
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Trump has vowed revenge. Start the pardons, President Biden

To the editor: Harry Litman relies on the wisdom of grand juries, juries and judges in protecting the subjects of President-elect Donald Trump's enemies list. However, even unsuccessful prosecutions could bankrupt many innocent "defendants." ("Will Trump launch a reign of terror against his list of enemies? There’s little to stop him," Opinion, Nov. 7)

The easiest way to provide all of "Trump's perceived enemies" with legal (and financial) protection from frivolous prosecution would be for President Biden to compile an enormous list of people to pardon before he leaves office, including prosecutors, judges, journalists, pollsters and others.

Jack Smith, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Adam Schiff, Kamala Harris, additional members and witnesses of the House Jan. 6 Committee and many others come to mind.

This won't eliminate the threats to democracy, but at least it might provide protection for some people.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2024-11-13
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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 6:58 PM

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We didn't believe in doing half-assed jobs.

Your words are not sufficient. Prove it. You won't because it does not happen the way you claim it does.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.

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Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.

Nope. You prove you are competent rather than a half-ass, lazy government employee avoiding work, except when your superior is breathing down your neck. I won't do for you.

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"If the exit polls are roughly accurate, about 19 million people who had voted for [Joe] Biden in 2020 just stayed home," Podhorzer writes. "And, again, if the exits are roughly accurate, nearly all of those who stayed home had said they were voting against Trump when they cast ballots in 2020."

Q: You are digging into the Biden 2020 “surge” voters, the infrequent voters who turned out for him in 2020 and did not turn out this year for Harris or flipped to Trump. Is there anything today that you can tell me about those voters?

A: In both the 2020 and 2024 exits, voters were asked whether their vote was mostly for the candidate they cast their ballot for or against the opponent. It’s really clear with the calculations that I have in there, that Harris pretty much kept those who had said they were voting “for” Biden four years ago, but really tanked with people who had said they were casting their ballot against Trump four years ago. Those people just stayed home. That’s about 20 million people.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/harris-trump-b
iden-why-democratic-turnout-cratered-1235164354
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Elect a clown, expect a circus: Hegseth, Gaetz, and Gabbard

Hegseth is a surprising pick to lead the most massive military bureaucracy in human history for a few reasons, including his assertion that women should not serve in combat roles; his successful lobbying during the first Trump administration for pardons for convicted and alleged war criminals; his description of “a war on two fronts” -- one against “radical Islamist ideology” and the other against “domestic enemies,” namely, “the Left”; his opposition to the supposed “infection” of left-wing policies in the military; and his assertion a few years ago that “the Iraq War is an example of what America got right when we got it right.”

Asked by one reporter if he thought Gaetz had the character and experience to be attorney general, Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) stared at them incredulously, waited six seconds to answer and then said, again, with a laugh: “Are you shittin’ me, that you asked that question? No. But hell, you’ll print that and now I’ll be investigated.”

After her failed presidential run in 2020, Gabbard left the Democratic Party (she seems to announce doing this at least once a week) and became something of a conservative celebrity, elevating transphobia, spreading Russian propaganda, and unsuccessfully endorsing Republicans.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/13/elect-a-clown-expect-a-cir
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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