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Fake news: CNN; NYT; VICE; WaPo; WSJ: "They're all f*cking lying about Trump" (Seymour Hersh)

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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


That's what you get for peddling fake news.
ttps:// www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/06/26/three-cnn-emplo
yees-resign-over-retracted-story-on-russia-ties/?utm_term=.6e2aff20b015


Also,

Quote:

CNN Issues Strict Rules on Russia-Related Stories (Report)
Following the deletion and retraction of an article Friday on CNN’s website of a story involving a Russian investment fund and the Trump transition team, the network is placing tough restrictions on stories published that involve Russia, according to BuzzFeed.

http://www.thewrap.com/cnn-russia-stories-rules/


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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:48 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's what you get for peddling fake news.
ttps:// www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/06/26/three-cnn-emplo
yees-resign-over-retracted-story-on-russia-ties/?utm_term=.6e2aff20b015


Also,

Quote:

CNN Issues Strict Rules on Russia-Related Stories (Report)
Following the deletion and retraction of an article Friday on CNN’s website of a story involving a Russian investment fund and the Trump transition team, the network is placing tough restrictions on stories published that involve Russia, according to BuzzFeed.

http://www.thewrap.com/cnn-russia-stories-rules/




Excellent. That's the best thing about Trump's reign: journalists have to be at their best. Would every MSM outlet follow the same strict guidelines. As the aggrieved Anthony Scaramucci stated:

.@CNN did the right thing. Classy move. Apology accepted. Everyone makes mistakes. Moving on.

Fox? RT? Sputnik? We're waiting.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:25 AM

KPO


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's what you get for peddling fake news.


Oh yeah? Can you give me any examples of RT or Sputnik employees getting sacked? What about any of your pro-Russia bloggers - do they ever sack themselves and shut down their blogs?

I think what you meant to say was, "That's what you get when free, professional media issues false stories: retractions, corrections and staff dismissals."

In other words - accountability. Without realising it, and while trying to do the opposite, you just made a compelling argument for the superiority of the MSM over all the media sources you rely on.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


If the MSM had actually gotten to a pale representation of the facts through some internal process, you might have a point. But this "news item", like so many others in CNN, WaPo, and NYT, was an unverified leak from yet another anonymous source, which CNN happily published without (apparently) even the simplest of verifications.

A process, I might add, that you support through your uncritical swill-swallowing, echoing, and your constant attacks on alternate sources and alternate PsOV.

BTW- Sputnik News and InfoWars - both of which you have constantly impugned as "biased" - were the ones who brought this inaccuracy to light. So suck it, you stupid deep-state trolls. CNN just got its ass handed to it; this isn't a "victory" for the MSM no matter how you try to spin it.

As an aside: The "journalism" behind the original story was so gorram shoddy that it probably put CNN at risk of a major libel suit, or worse. This the only time I've even seen such a thorough climb-down by a major "news" organization. Usually, the journalist resigns but the editor just blithely sails on. The subject of the libelous reporting - Scaramucci- can afford to be forgiving; after all, just look at CNN whittling all over itself trying to get out of trouble.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Oh, worse and worse for CNN ... apparently, according to recorded conversations with a Health producer at CNN (who talks to the editor-in-chief) this whole "Russia" thing was simply for ratings, and a lot of the stories were published without regard for the truth.

This is from another "biased" source (Project Veritas) who recorded a CNN producer saying this ...

Quote:

John Bonifield: Even if Russia was trying to swing an election, we try to swing their elections, our CIA is doing shit all the time, we're out there trying to manipulate governments. I haven't seen any good enough evidence to show that the President committed a crime.
I know a lot of people don't like him and they'd like to see him get kicked out of office.... but that's a lot different than he actually did something that can get him kicked out of office.
Russia is for ratings!

PV Journalist: Why is CNN constantly like "Russia this, Russia that?"
Bonifield: Because it's ratings. Our ratings are incredible right now.
My boss, I shouldn't say this, my boss yesterday we were having a discussion about this dental shoot and he was like I just want you to know what we're up against here. Just to give you some context, President Trump pulled out of the climate accords. For a day and a half we covered the climate accords. And the CEO of CNN [Jeff Zucker] said in our internal meeting, he said good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we're done with it. Let's get back to Russia.
But all the nice cutesy little ethics that used to get talked about in journalism school, you're just like, that's adorable. That's adorable. This is a business.



MORE AT (another source that you consider "biased") ZEROHEDGE: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-27/cnn-exposed-undercover-sting-
producer-admits-russia-story-fake-news-pushed-ratings-0



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:16 AM

6STRINGJOKER


lol... you know what G and KPO sound like now?

They sound exactly like RAPE APOLOGISTS do. That or any of the "_______ Apologists" the left has regularly been claiming that all the "Alt-Righters" are.

"No, you see. It's a good thing that the media has been lying because now that they've gotten caught on more than one occasion there is going to be some accountability."

Don't pull a brain muscle with all of those mental gymnastics you guys are doing.



And Sigs... I appreciate you posting multiple sources for that. I had to admit that I cringed when I saw the words "according to buzzfeed" in your quote.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Not the best week ever for CNN, is it ?

Project Veritas Undercover Investigation: CNN Producer Admits Network Hyping ‘Mostly Bullsh*t’ Trump-Russia Scandal for ‘Ratings’


James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas has struck again: This time, a senior CNN producer was caught on camera by one of O’Keefe’s investigators admitting that the network’s relentless bashing of President Donald Trump with the Russia scandal lacks proof.

“Could be bullshit. I mean, it’s mostly bullshit right now,” the CNN producer, John Bonifield, said in a video O’Keefe’s Project Veritas released on Tuesday, when asked about his thoughts on the Russia investigation. “Like, we don’t have any giant proof. Then they say, well there’s still an investigation going on. And you’re like, yeah, I don’t know. If they were finding something we would know about it. The way these leaks happen, they would leak it. They’d leak. If it was something really good, it would leak…. The leaks keep leaking and there’s so many great leaks, and it’s amazing. I just refuse to believe that if they had something really good like that that wouldn’t leak because we’ve been getting all these other leaks. So, I just feel like they don’t really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun. You have no real proof.”


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/26/project-veritas-und
ercover-investigation-cnn-producer-admits-network-hyping-mostly-bullsht-trump-russia-scandal-for-ratings
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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Well, here's one more!

CNN producer, caught on camera: Russia-Trump ‘mostly bulls—’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/27/cnn-producer-caught-ca
mera-russia-trump-mostly-bul
/

But don't expect this to be covered by CNN.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:04 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, here's one more!

CNN producer, caught on camera: Russia-Trump ‘mostly bulls—’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/27/cnn-producer-caught-ca
mera-russia-trump-mostly-bul
/

But don't expect this to be covered by CNN.




Most of what CNN does is "bullshit" right now! How the f*ck do you not know that yet????? 90% of what they do is repeat what they said the last hour with different talking heads. That's why it's pretty worthless - welcome to the 20th century. Kind of like listening to SIGNYM et al. different day, same sh*t.
What really matters is what Mueller and the other investigations actually find - you honestly don't get that do you? Or are you lying?

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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Most of what CNN does is "bullshit" right now! How the f*ck do you not know that yet?????
Well, then why do you so readily pass it along if you know it's BS? Yanno, like Trump is "under investigation" for collusion, obstruction, and money-laundering?? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&p=11

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

GSTRING, everybody here knows that you're a constant purveyor of MSM baloney. Well, you just got your ass handed to you, like CNN got its ass handed to it.

Nice to see you disavowing your sources, though, if only under pressure. I hope you remember your own advice the NEXT time you think about passing along "evidens".

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:23 PM

G

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Most of what CNN does is "bullshit" right now! How the f*ck do you not know that yet?????
Well, then why do you so readily pass it along if you know it's BS? Yanno, like Trump is "under investigation" for collusion, obstruction, and money-laundering?? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&p=11

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

GSTRING, everybody here knows that you're a constant purveyor of MSM baloney. Well, you just got your ass handed to you, like CNN got its ass handed to it.

Nice to see you disavowing your sources, though, if only under pressure. I hope you remember your own advice the NEXT time you think about passing along "evidens".




I think I just got your ass handed to me (need a f*cking crane btw - cut back on the sweets will ya?).
Do you see me citing CNN? No? As I have told you before - you lying sack - CNN is good for finding out if something is happening, like "London Apt up in Blaze"

Are you saying you don't think Mueller is investigating Trump for collusion, obstruction, and money-laundering? Oh, right, thanks for reminding me! He's also being investigated for Emolument violations and Tax Evasion. And where did I get that from? CNN? Nope. Keep guessing, hon.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


CNN isn't the only media outlet publishing fake news, it just happens to be the only one (so far) caught on tape admitting that's what they do. But CNN coverage isn't that far different from NYT, WaPo, or the MSNBC: It's all based on "anonymous" sources who could be lying, or simply amplifying on each other's stories. With no attribution and apparently very little verification, the stories could be completely bogus. According to one person who works for CNN, they are.

So, about those "investigations" of Trump.

Go back into your reportage - whatever source you got your "information" from, it doesn't really matter - and what you will find is that it goes back to "anonymous sources".

Obstruction of justice??
Quote:

Five people briefed on the interview requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said that Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, Mike Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, and Rogers’s recently departed deputy, Richard Ledgett, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller’s investigators as early as this week.
So, five anonymous people said that some top security officials are being interviewed.

Money laundering??
Quote:

A former [anonymous] senior official said Mr. Mueller’s investigation was looking at money laundering by Trump associates.


Collusion?? Hmmm... there is nothing in the MSM recently... anonymous or not ... about Trump "colluding" with Russia during the campaign. I guess that one died when Comey testified that Trump was not under investigation.



*****

Meanwhile, what did the DOJ say about anonymous sources?
Quote:

"Americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous 'officials,' particularly when they do not identify the country — let alone the branch or agency of government — with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. Americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations. The Department of Justice has a long-established policy to neither confirm nor deny such allegations.


The reality is that Special Counsel Mueller has broad authority into looking into whatever he wants. Just like Ken Starr started investigating Clinton's Whitewater dealings but wound up poking his nose into Bill's sex life, Mueller could be looking for evidence of "collusion", but he could just as easily be looking into where all of the LEAKS are coming from, or he could be checking into Trump's hemorrhoid status.

All we really know, at this point, is that there is an ongoing investigation into something.




If you find a named official anywhere in your "sources" I would be vastly surprised.





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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


So, no named sources from the MSM, GSTRING?
Yeah, I thought not.

Now, that doesn't prevent us from trying to deduce what's going on, but that's all that it is- speculation.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


CNN: RUSSIA IS A BIG "NOTHING BURGER"

Quote:

Project Veritas Exposes CNN's Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger"

PV Reporter: "What do you think is going to happen this week with the whole Russia thing?"
Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger"
PV Reporter: "Really?"
Van Jones: "Yeah."




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-28/van-jones


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:33 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CNN isn't the only media outlet publishing fake news, it just happens to be the only one (so far) caught on tape admitting that's what they do. But CNN coverage isn't that far different from NYT, WaPo, or the MSNBC: It's all based on "anonymous" sources who could be lying, or simply amplifying on each other's stories. With no attribution and apparently very little verification, the stories could be completely bogus. According to one person who works for CNN, they are.



Like Zerohedge ya mean?

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, about those "investigations" of Trump.

Go back into your reportage - whatever source you got your "information" from, it doesn't really matter - and what you will find is that it goes back to "anonymous sources".



My source's name is Common Sense.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, what did the DOJ say about anonymous sources?
"Americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous 'officials,' particularly when they do not identify the country — let alone the branch or agency of government — with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. Americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations. The Department of Justice has a long-established policy to neither confirm nor deny such allegations."



Like Zerohedge.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All we really know, at this point, is that there is an ongoing investigation into something.



Hey! You got one right!

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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:35 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CNN: RUSSIA IS A BIG "NOTHING BURGER"
vid



Really??? That's your proof that Trump didn't collude with Russia??? Hi-larious, dude. How desperate are you?

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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

CNN: RUSSIA IS A BIG "NOTHING BURGER"- SIGNY


Really??? That's your proof that Trump didn't collude with Russia??? Hi-larious, dude. How desperate are you? - GSTRING

How desperate are YOU?
I merely offer this as evidence that CNN internally thinks the whole Trump-Russia story is bullcrap, and they're running it just to keep people tuned in.

Oh, by the way ... You may have forgotten the Constitution again, yanno, something about "innocent until proven guilty". So nobody has to "prove" Trump is innocent. The people who constructed our system of government realized that it's impossible to prove a negative, and they avoided that logical fallace quite nicely. You OTOH seem to keep falling into it. Dang, but you see to have a hard time with that one!!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I think the 2 biggest obstacles keeping these snowflakes from admitting that Russia / Trump is a nothing burger are ...

1. They've invested so damn much time and effort in this fairy tale, to bail out now would add more salt into the 2016 election loss wound. The hope of him being impeached is now up in smoke.

and...

2. Having to admit that Trump did not in fact collude w/ the Russians means that he's not a traitor, not trying to undercut our democracy, and quite frankly, mutes their biggest rallying cry for everyone to RESIST. He's still kitty grabbing Trump, and all that, but I think the debunking of the Russia connection on some level means the snowflakes will have to admit they're wrong, and that Trump is right. And it means that Trump " wins ", yet again.

It's just too much for some to accept, and so that's why we'll never see it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, June 29, 2017 7:52 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Lies of omission. How the media fools the public into buying into false narratives.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:25 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I think the 2 biggest obstacles keeping these snowflakes from admitting that Russia / Trump is a nothing burger are ...

1. They've invested so damn much time and effort in this fairy tale, to bail out now would add more salt into the 2016 election loss wound. The hope of him being impeached is now up in smoke.

and...

2. Having to admit that Trump did not in fact collude w/ the Russians means that he's not a traitor, not trying to undercut our democracy, and quite frankly, mutes their biggest rallying cry for everyone to RESIST. He's still kitty grabbing Trump, and all that, but I think the debunking of the Russia connection on some level means the snowflakes will have to admit they're wrong, and that Trump is right. And it means that Trump " wins ", yet again.

It's just too much for some to accept, and so that's why we'll never see it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



I'm sure there are some anti-Trump people who probably feel that way. Hate is a powerful drug. I will spare us the analogies to previous admins.

Personally, I have never trusted Trump. I don't know how anyone can. In my mind it just makes sense that he would take ANY advantage he could to win the election. On top of that, he already had a lot of connections and interactions with Russia. On the flip side, to think that Russia - Putin - didn't see the opportunity to have "their man" in the WH instead of Hillary, is to be extremely naive. It is fairly well known (at least now) that Russia has a playbook for turning people into their allies. The fact that Trump goes out of his way to not even talk about Russia's election tampering is suspicious.
There are many other things, like hiring Manafort, the number of people who "forgot to mention" Russian meetings, the vast amounts of money that Russians have given Trump already, the buddy pictures with Lavrov and Kislyak, and worst of all: Trump's ultra vanity. He can be played like a cheap banjo. I'd bet Putin/Russia saw his weaknesses miles away. His whines to Comey, "tell everyone you're not investigating me!" It's the whine of a guilty man as he sees the walls closing in. And then he fires him because of "the Russher thing," and is now laying the ground work to fire Mueller. So, hells yeah I want to know more. Imho he's either too incompetent* or too guilty or both to be our president.

*ETA: I mean, look at this infantile pos:



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Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:08 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Lies of omission. How the media fools the public into buying into false narratives.



Who is lying?

http://wapo.st/2t4SOqu

"A Time magazine with Trump on the cover hangs in his golf clubs. It’s fake."

"The framed copy of Time magazine was hung up in at least five of President Trump’s clubs, from South Florida to Scotland. Filling the entire cover was a photo of Donald Trump.

“Donald Trump: The ‘Apprentice’ is a television smash!” the big headline said. Above the Time nameplate, there was another headline in all caps: “TRUMP IS HITTING ON ALL FRONTS .?.?. EVEN TV!”"





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Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:43 PM

6STRINGJOKER


It's not like he hasn't been on the cover of Time several times before...

I had a picture of myself put on a magazine some time when I was a kid when I went to Great America. And that was years before Photoshop was a thing. What's your point?


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Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


G - did you NOT watch the John Stossel video I posted ? Really, I can't help but notice the irony.

Video shows how the media portrays Trump in a certain light, promotes a narrative, which if anyone bothers to look into it objectively, is completely false !

YOU then come back with... a fake TIME magazine cover? Who made it? Trump? Is he " the media " ? Is he broadcasting this image all across the country, on prime time news ? No ! He only had it up for a relatively few folks to see. And who hasn't seen those corny mock TIME ' Man of the Year ' gag covers, where anyone put their OWN face on it , for a few bucks ?

Please, stick to the issues !

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, June 30, 2017 3:11 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I really like that name - American Pravda!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CNN: RUSSIA IS A BIG "NOTHING BURGER"

Quote:

Project Veritas Exposes CNN's Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger"

PV Reporter: "What do you think is going to happen this week with the whole Russia thing?"
Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger"
PV Reporter: "Really?"
Van Jones: "Yeah."




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-28/van-jones


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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one



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Friday, June 30, 2017 4:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, here's one more!

CNN producer, caught on camera: Russia-Trump ‘mostly bulls—’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/27/cnn-producer-caught-ca
mera-russia-trump-mostly-bul
/

But don't expect this to be covered by CNN.



A CNN employee who sympathises with Trump and thinks the network's coverage is overblown, wow... Guys, do you not think that out of hundreds of CNN employees some of them will be Trump voters and by and large, still support him? Dig deeper and I'm sure you'll find more than one CNN employee who disagrees with the network's coverage.

"CNN producer" - Yeah, he's a health producer. Doesn't cover politics at all - certainly nothing do with the Russia scandal.

-------------------------------------------------------

"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Friday, June 30, 2017 6:10 AM

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I'd imagine being a Republican at CNN would be like being the gay kid at school during the 20th century.

Not very fun being in the closet, but just about the end of the world if you're outed.

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Friday, June 30, 2017 8:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'd imagine being a Republican at CNN would be like being the gay kid at school during the 20th century.

Not very fun being in the closet, but just about the end of the world if you're outed.

Rather than all reporters needing to fake their Democratic affiliation, there is another way to handle fake news from Anonymous sources: the news could stop using Anonymous unless the editor knows the Anonymous’ real name. If Anonymous lied to gullible reporters, Anonymous’ real name is published by the editor, along with a retraction. That would certainly encourage Anonymous to tell the truth or stop talking. Either would be an improvement to the present situation where reporters have to pretend to be Infallible Seekers of Truth or else resign.

Somebody deserves to be hurt when a lie is publicized and I think that somebody should be the Anonymous Source. Or the politician who is playing a game of Let's pretend I'm Anonymous Source. Or politicians who spew lies using their real names.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 30, 2017 8:52 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
G - did you NOT watch the John Stossel video I posted ? Really, I can't help but notice the irony. Video shows how the media portrays Trump in a certain light, promotes a narrative, which if anyone bothers to look into it objectively, is completely false !



I used to like Stossel way back.

1. The hand waving Trump does is different for when he mocks the handicapped reporter - it's larger. Stossel tries to minimize it by saying he mocks other people the same way. What? Stossel justifies his mocking of others? That's 5 year old sh*t.

2. His defense of Trump saying he lied about going into Iraq? Who even remembers or cared abut what no-candidate Trump said about Iraq. Even if you do, "Yeah... I guess so." That's a defense? Weak tea bro. And then wondering why the Elite Media isn't going back to correct what they supposedly said (no cites were given by Stossel, just "I read."). Why would they spend time going backwards to clarify something that wasn't proven? Talk about a nothing burger.

3. And why does Fox keep bringing up Hollywood? Pandering maybe? Because Fox knows their viewers hate those "rich pampered elitist fuckers!" "Like college graduates! Hate those arrogant snobs! How dare they get a college degree!" Fox plays their audience for fools, counts on them to be idiots. They actually mock their own audience.

4. I love how he tries to portray how much attention gets in the press and how unfair that is. He coveted that same attention which got him elected rep candidate. Now it's unfair? They won't cover him if he's not bringing viewers, so if it bothers him how about he work on being boring and STF once and while?

And how about the irony??? Stossel and his buddy saying how unfair the coverage of Trump is in a 12 minute piece about...? TRUMP! Yeah, even Fux knows they get more eyeballs talking about Trump. Especially "Trump being treated unfairly!"

I got as far as their outrage over the NYT publishing the 2 page spread of all of Trumps lies and insults, where and who and when. Seems they didn't get the substance of it. And now it's prophetic.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
YOU then come back with... a fake TIME magazine cover? Who made it? Trump? Is he " the media " ? Is he broadcasting this image all across the country, on prime time news ? No ! He only had it up for a relatively few folks to see. And who hasn't seen those corny mock TIME ' Man of the Year ' gag covers, where anyone put their OWN face on it , for a few bucks ?



Did you read the article? It was prominently displayed at a number of Trump's golf courses. The claims were false. Big deal? Naw, more of a soft move on his part. I guess I'll never get used to his kind of cheap deceit.

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Friday, June 30, 2017 9:09 AM

RIVERLOVE


New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate
-canard
/


So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks.

They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did.

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Friday, June 30, 2017 9:39 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate
-canard
/


So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks.

They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did.



Really, you mean the assessment made by these four intelligence agencies about the Russian hackings is not enough for you. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency.

The premise of the story is of the Russian hacking. Instead, for you its about a mistake made by the Times about how many agencies signed off on the assertion of Russia interference.

For me these four saying its so is good enough. If you're American and not just a sockpuppet, it should be enough for you as well.






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Friday, June 30, 2017 9:45 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate
-canard
/


So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks.

They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did.



I never believed there even were 17 Intelligent people in DC.

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Friday, June 30, 2017 9:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Another link, this one from Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/6kclzu/new_york_times_
forced_to_retract_longstanding_lie
/

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 9:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate
-canard
/


So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks.

They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did.



I never believed there even were 17 Intelligent people in DC.

==============================


LOL! Amen to that! Clapper, Rice, Comey? All big liars and Obama political flunkies. They couldn't sell me a new car even with a 10-year warranty and free maintenance.

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Friday, June 30, 2017 10:01 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn

Republican who said he was working with Michael Flynn tried to get Hillary Clinton emails from hackers

A Republican operative who said he was working with former Trump campaign adviser Michael Flynn tried to obtain Hillary Clinton’s emails from hackers, according to a report.

Emails from before the 2016 presidential election show that Peter Smith and his associates treated the future National Security adviser and his company as “allies” in their search, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

Smith, a private equity financier, died at 81 on May 14, according to a Chicago-area obituary.

The Journal reported that it spoke to him 10 days before his death, when he said he knew Flynn but never stated that Flynn was involved in his email plan that began around Labor Day 2016.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/republican-claimed-flynn-tie-cli
nton-emails-article-1.3289348






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Friday, June 30, 2017 10:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Really, you mean the assessment made by these four intelligence agencies about the Russian hackings is not enough for you. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency.

No, it isn't. There was a time when the President, the Vice President, the Scy State, the Scy Defense, and the CIA stood should-to-shoulder and told us all the Saddam had WMD. Judith Miller of the NYT carried Cheney's water by publishing exclusive "leaks". But it was all bullshit.

Attribution of intrusions is very difficult, especially since the NSA developed tools which allow anyone to look like anyone else.

So do you really think that the NSA (which BTW engaged in illegal surveillance of possibly millions of people, and lied about it to the press, and which to this day maintains a database of illegally/ questionably obtained surveillance data) and its sister agencies (which freely access the NSA database) would have done anything to reveal its masquerading software?

Nope! They'd all line up, shoulder-to-shoulder, and claim "the Russians did it". And BTW, the FBI never even examined the server containing Podesta's email. They just let some third-party tell them what happened. Consdiering how the FBI bungled the Hillary email investigation, I wouldn't trust them to investigate my shoelaces.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 10:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Republican who said he was working with Michael Flynn tried to get Hillary Clinton emails from hackers
So, if this Republican researcher is looking for the emails in hacker chatrooms, it kind of implies that he had no previous connections to hackers, and didn't have the emails, otherwise he wouldn't be blindly poking around on the internet.

If anything, this story exonerates this one particular individual. And if he really DID have a connection to Flynn, it exonerates Flynn as well.

Correct?



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 10:57 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Republican who said he was working with Michael Flynn tried to get Hillary Clinton emails from hackers
So, if this Republican researcher is looking for the emails in hacker chatrooms, it kind of implies that he had no previous connections to hackers, and didn't have the emails, otherwise he wouldn't be blindly poking around on the internet.

If anything, this story exonerates this one particular individual. And if he really DID have a connection to Flynn, it exonerates Flynn as well.

Correct?





To that I will respond with an article from the Times, and I would remind you, time is on my side.


Free Advice to Trump Aides: Quit While You Can


” No one knows the next national joke that will have Mr. Spicer as a punch line, but one thing is clear. As long as he works for this president, he is unlikely to recover his dignity.

“General McMaster spent decades defending this nation, earning his integrity and honor. Trump squandered it in less than 12 hours,” responded the Republican strategist John Weaver in a tweet. The journalist and former speechwriter for George W. Bush, David Frum, asked: “How does McMaster not resign today? That thing he said ‘did not happen’ the president has just defended doing.”

The same is true of most people in Mr. Trump’s orbit. To serve this president is to be diminished.

It took Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein a mere two weeks in the administration to trash his sterling reputation through his involvement in Mr. Comey’s firing. Trump associates have tried to pin the blame for the president’s manifold displays of incompetence on the White House chief of staff, Reince Priebus — whose internal nickname, according to The Week, is Rancid — but the truth is that Mr. Trump is ruining Mr. Priebus’s reputation, not vice versa. Lesser-known figures will also probably find that their time in the administration has hindered, rather than helped, their career prospects.

As Mr. Stephanopoulos noted in 1998, “A single trip to the grand jury can cost you $10,000.”

Congressional and legal investigations into Mr. Trump’s presidency — including his ties to Russia, his firing of Mr. Comey and the overlap of his business interests and his governing responsibilities — are likely to be even more extensive than those Mr. Clinton faced, particularly if Democrats take back either house of Congress next year.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/opinion/free-advice-to-trump-aides-
quit-while-you-can.html







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Friday, June 30, 2017 11:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Congressional and legal investigations into Mr. Trump’s presidency — including his
alleged
Quote:

ties to Russia, his
perfectly within his purview
Quote:

firing of Mr. Comey and the
alleged
Quote:

overlap of his business interests and his governing responsibilities — are likely to be even more extensive than those Mr. Clinton faced.


Meanwhile the Democrats are squandering yet ANOTHER golden opportunity, just like Obama squandered a golden opportunity when he came into office.

The more the Democrats engage in this pettiness, the more THEY will be tainted with Trump. Instead of harassing the President over nonexistent illegalities, they should be coming up with credible plans to solve America's problems. If they spent as much press time talking abut their plans as they did griping about everything "Trump", they would stand a much better chance of winning the next election,

What nonsense on their part. That's not leadership. Come up with something better.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 11:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


CNN "New Day" Producer: Trump is crazy, American voters are "stupid as shit", and Kellyanne Conway "looks like she got hit with a shovel"



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 11:30 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


I'll say it again SIG (comrade). Time and the truth are on my side. Just like with Syria and the Ukraine. You have stripped yourself of any semblance of decency or truthfulness in your defense of Russia and now Trump.






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Friday, June 30, 2017 11:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

I'll say it again SIG (comrade). Time and the truth are on my side. Just like with Syria and the Ukraine. You have stripped yourself of any semblance of decency or truthfulness in your defense of Russia and now Trump.



What will you do if your POV blows up in your face?



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 11:37 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I'll say it again SIG (comrade). Time and the truth are on my side. Just like with Syria and the Ukraine. You have stripped yourself of any semblance of decency or truthfulness in your defense of Russia and now Trump.



What will you do if your POV implodes in real life?





Truth and the facts are your biggest detractor in these threads. Not me or anyone here comrade.






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Friday, June 30, 2017 11:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Quote:

Truth and the facts are your biggest detractor in these threads. Not me or anyone here comrade.= THUGR
You have brought not a single fact to this thread; or to most threads. Jeez.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 12:19 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Truth and the facts are your biggest detractor in these threads. Not me or anyone here comrade.= THUGR
You have brought not a single fact to this thread; or to most threads. Jeez.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one




Here's a fact for ya. Your signature is that of a trolls. Funny how you're so ignorant you don't realize you are exposing yourself that way.

It also shows I own you. I'm in your head. Every time you make a post it shows I'm in your head. The fact that you post my signature back to me at times shows it's in your head as well; good.





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Friday, June 30, 2017 12:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


It occurs to me that this ongoing and pointless investigation of nothing may create the same backlash as Ken Starr's relentless expedition up Bill Clinton's anus and into his colon, looking for something ... ANYthing ... with which to hang Bill. And impeaching a President because he lied about his sex life- which, really, should remain private - was a travesty of justice. That's the reason that MoveOn.org was founded, and rightly so!

Now, I didn't vote for Bill the second time. but that wasn't because of Monica or Whitewater, that was because of his bad policies. And, just to restate, so that I don't get accused of AGAIN "changing my story" those policies were:

Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)
Commodities Futures Modernization Act
Repeal of Glass-Steagall
NAFTA/CAFTA; WTO; and a "landmark trade deal" with China
Ending "welfare as we know it"
Don't ask, don't tell

Anyway, I'm wondering if a kind of emotional backlash is beginning already. I think people are starting not to care. And if the stock market implodes like I think it will, or other financial meltdowns occur, then people REALLY won't care about "Russia" ... or even "Syria" for that matter. They'll have far more important things to worry about.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, June 30, 2017 7:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:


Originally posted by G:

I used to like Stossel way back.

1. The hand waving Trump does is different for when he mocks the handicapped reporter - it's larger. Stossel tries to minimize it by saying he mocks other people the same way. What? Stossel justifies his mocking of others? That's 5 year old sh*t.



He's explaining, not " justifying ". And yes, he does similar gestures w/ Cruz and the General. Could be he's more agitated at he reporter for his comments, plus I doubt he views him on par w/ Cruz or said general. Thus, he feels he can mock him a degree or two more ? And Stossel is right... the reporter CAN'T move his arms, and so Trump mocks him by exaggerated movements ? It's a weak defense for those who claim Trump was ONLY making fun of the handicapped reporter.

Quote:



2. His defense of Trump saying he lied about going into Iraq? Who even remembers or cared abut what no-candidate Trump said about Iraq. Even if you do, "Yeah... I guess so." That's a defense? Weak tea bro. And then wondering why the Elite Media isn't going back to correct what they supposedly said (no cites were given by Stossel, just "I read."). Why would they spend time going backwards to clarify something that wasn't proven? Talk about a nothing burger.



Stossel's right again. Trump wasn't overly pro going in or not.

Quote:



3. And why does Fox keep bringing up Hollywood? Pandering maybe? Because Fox knows their viewers hate those "rich pampered elitist fuckers!" "Like college graduates! Hate those arrogant snobs! How dare they get a college degree!" Fox plays their audience for fools, counts on them to be idiots. They actually mock their own audience.



Who are you talking about ? Rare is it that the " Hollywood elites " have college degrees. But usually it's the Ivy league, N.E. Liberal types , or the Berkeley socialists who get the brunt of the attention from FOX. Oh, and have you seen how BLM loving Missouri is doing these days ?


Quote:



4. I love how he tries to portray how much attention gets in the press and how unfair that is. He coveted that same attention which got him elected rep candidate. Now it's unfair? They won't cover him if he's not bringing viewers, so if it bothers him how about he work on being boring and STF once and while?

And how about the irony??? Stossel and his buddy saying how unfair the coverage of Trump is in a 12 minute piece about...? TRUMP! Yeah, even Fux knows they get more eyeballs talking about Trump. Especially "Trump being treated unfairly!"



You can't deny the content of what is being discussed.

Quote:



I got as far as their outrage over the NYT publishing the 2 page spread of all of Trumps lies and insults, where and who and when. Seems they didn't get the substance of it. And now it's prophetic.



Most of those things probably aren't even lies. Just matters where Trump misspoke, got something wrong, or simply disagrees w/ the NYT.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Saturday, July 1, 2017 6:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate
-canard
/


So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks.

They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did.

Quote:

Correction: June 29, 2017

A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.

I'm just gonna say I knew about this a long time ago. WAaaaayyy back when, I posted a link to the original assessment, which did NOT have the signatures of all 17 agencies, and of the 4 agencies that DID sign on, the FBI I believe, demurred on the conclusion specifically.

But, not too many people are interested in original documents and facts.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:33 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Another link, this one from Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/6kclzu/new_york_times_
forced_to_retract_longstanding_lie
/




SIG, 1kiki, you being Bolsheviks, or members of the Russian Social Democratic Party, you don't understand how our intelligence agencies work; or coordinate. Besides, what you do here is lie to protect Russia. So, even if you did understand you would still lie.

Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, the DNI, works closely with a President-appointed, Senate-confirmed Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence to effectively integrate all national and homeland security intelligence in defense of the homeland and in support of U.S. national security interests.

He spoke for all of our intelligence agencies regarding the Russian interference. That's a part of his job comrades. He stated that after reviewing it, all 17 signed off on the evidence collected by the four agencies your article speaks too. What you're suggesting is a lie, is instead semantics. All 17 agencies did not collect the intelligence. But they all signed off on it. All that is needed is for Coats to confer with them and state what their beliefs are. And he did.

Your guys would never pass our citizenship or nationalization test.





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Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:30 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I've heard that if given a nationality test out of the blue with no preparation, a majority of Americans would fail it.

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Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


And from our very own forum ...

The very best way for CNN to enhance its reputation for fair journalism and free speech is to threaten someone who makes fun of them!


Quote:

CNN harassed Blackmailed a 15 yr old kid, the kids posted a funny Gif online that triggers CNN Staff

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61771

Quote:

CNN in odd role as censor: Network threatens free speech over Trump wrestling video
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/05/cnn-should-not-threa
ten-free-speech-reddit-user-jonathan-turley-column/451917001
/



Quote:

THUG JOURNALISM: CNN Threatens To Reveal Identity Of Reddit Man Who Made Trump-CNN Bodyslam Meme If He Disobeys Them
http://www.dailywire.com/news/18259/thug-journalism-cnn-threatens-reve
al-identity-ben-shapiro




Quote:

CNN criticized for seemingly threatening to dox Reddit user behind Trump's wrestling video
http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/cnn-criticized-threaten
ing-dox-reddit-users-identity-2017-7-1002149535



All together, it looks to me like CNN was revealed to be a very crappy infotainment organization, masquerading as a news provider.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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