Finding Serenity - due out on Friday by WhoIsRiver

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Originally posted by Zol:
That time already - Damn, and I thought it was the middle of next month, oh well, thanks for the update.

might still be, depending on where that date came from. if i remember krads explanation correctly books dont have an exact date and for example amazon just makes up a date (because their software requires one).

well, we will see in about 5 days ,-)

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:52 AM

ZOL

well, I`ve ordered one from amazon, so I guess we will see - I have found that Amazon are usually pretty good and will update the dispatch date if they find out it`s ready at a later date.

Darin (Zol.)

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:31 AM

NIKNAK

I don't know how good it will be but curiousity got the better of me and I've ordered mine too.

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Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:21 PM

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same

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Originally posted by Jared:
if i remember krads explanation correctly books dont have an exact date

Depends on the marketing money behind 'em. Mid-list books (Keith's, & maybe this one) just have a release month. On the other hand, HP & the 1/2 Blood Prince will be released on July 16. From Amazon: "Availability: Pre-order this item now and we will make sure it arrives on or just after the release date of July 16, 2005". And if they handle it like the last HP book, Barnes & Noble Burbank will close for an hour Friday evening, then reopen @midnight to sell copies to the folks lined up outside.

Also, mid-list books will not be shipped in advance of scheduled release, nor will efforts be made to get them to all bookstores @the same time. So, if you find "Finding Serenity" on April Fools' Day, it's a good day.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Clapton, "Further On Up the Road", from "Crossroads"

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Monday, March 28, 2005 12:09 AM

I pre-ordered this book a while ago from Amazon so I'll post as soon as it comes in the mail.

Here's what they're saying now: "Delivery estimate: April 6, 2005 - April 8, 2005"

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Monday, March 28, 2005 12:34 AM

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Here's what they're saying now: "Delivery estimate: April 6, 2005 - April 8, 2005"

Better than I got for "Rock Masters: Billy Joel". That was January 8, 2010 - January 10, 2010. I deleted it from the order.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) not Billy Joel

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Monday, March 28, 2005 1:53 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
Jane's book on Firefly is due out this coming Friday

thanks for the head's up...
and thank you Haken for the link (in left column)
I went to Amazon and ordered!

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Monday, March 28, 2005 2:48 AM

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Here's what they're saying now: "Delivery estimate: April 6, 2005 - April 8, 2005"

so i guess our amazon is more optimistic. still says 1st-4th. would be kind of ironic to get this book earlier in germany. but then, i had orders where p&p from the states was not even half of what i would pay inside of germany (could this be a sign we are being ripped off? *fg*)

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Monday, March 28, 2005 3:15 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

I bought my copy from Barnesandnoble.com, and they too are listing the release date as April 1, 2005. So...that's two websites with the same release date. Eveything I've ordered from both of these sites has always gotten to me in a timely and prompt manner, and I expect that Finding Serenity will as well.

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Monday, March 28, 2005 3:34 AM

SNIPER

I'll definently pick it up. Thanks for the reminder!

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Monday, March 28, 2005 6:22 AM

KRAD

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: books generally don't have "street dates." Harry Potter books are very much the exception -- the thousands and thousands of other books that have July publication dates won't have their release date so maniacally managed as the next Potter book.

I'm not sure when Finding Serenity will be available. I just hope there are copies in time for I-Con in two weeks. :)

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
www.DeCandido.net | www.AlbeShiloh.com
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Monday, March 28, 2005 6:40 AM

CYBERSNARK

And since I'm in Canada, I'll hope to find a copy in a brick'n'mortar store by September.

But I'll expect to be disappointed.

Ruttin' Canadian bookstores don't even make the attempt anymore.

-----
We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Monday, March 28, 2005 3:18 PM

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Originally posted by Jared:
so i guess our amazon is more optimistic. still says 1st-4th. would be kind of ironic to get this book earlier in germany. but then, i had orders where p&p from the states was not even half of what i would pay inside of germany (could this be a sign we are being ripped off? *fg*)

I'd just chalk it down to German efficiency (to engage in a little positive stereotyping

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Monday, March 28, 2005 3:43 PM

DIETCOKE

Hi Keith,

What can you tell us about the book? I'm going to be one of the people manning (womanning really) the table at the I-Con. By the way, I've never in my life gone to a convention (other than corporate business type conventions.) Should I be frightened?

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Monday, March 28, 2005 6:18 PM

BOBTAYLOR

Well, heck, my essay is actually in the dang book, and I wasn't aware of this! I knew there was a reason I spend so much of my should-be-writing time surfing the Net.

Anyway, the book is great. (And I'm talking about all of it, not just my little bitty part. Although I am quite happy with the way it turned out.)

Can't wait to hear what you all think.

www.robert-b-taylor.com

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Monday, March 28, 2005 8:22 PM

WALTERPIPP

I'm a mild-mannered production tech at a major, metropolitan newspaper, so I have access to advance reading copies (ARCs) sent to our book reviewers before publication. I happened across Finding Serenity by accident tonight and haven't been able to put it down since.

I'm about halfway through and haven't gotten to your essay yet, Bob. Everything so far is very well written. Even if you're not a fan of non-fiction, there's a lot here for established fans, beginners, and not-yet fans to like. Kudos to you, Bob, for having your essay included and to everyone else associated with this project.

Best personal regards, Wallee_Pipps

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Monday, March 28, 2005 9:33 PM

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
I'd just chalk it down to German efficiency (to engage in a little positive stereotyping ).

*lol* that darn efficiency didnt even help to get us firefly over here (other than importing the uk dvd for 55€ *ouch*). seems the station sitting on the show decided to wait for the movie as free advertising (well, why would THEY care about the movie doing well).

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Originally posted by dietcoke:
By the way, I've never in my life gone to a convention (other than corporate business type conventions.) Should I be frightened?

just read all the reports or look at the videos. when it comes to firefly there doesnt seem to be any reason for browncoats to turn into brownpants (sorry, too tempting).

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Originally posted by WalterPipp:
I happened across Finding Serenity by accident tonight and haven't been able to put it down since.

so this is one of those good news-bad news things, right? i wont regret buying it, but it wont last for long, either ,-)

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Monday, March 28, 2005 11:00 PM

Hi Bob.

Welcome to fireflyfans!!

It's always good to see browncoats we haven't met yet dropping by. Especially literate published types

.

I'm really looking forward to reading your essay. And all the other works in the collection. And Keith's adaptation. And. Well, I think you get the picture.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:09 AM

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
I'm really looking forward to reading your essay. And all the other works in the collection. And Keith's adaptation. And. Well, I think you get the picture.

it's about reading, isn't it?

but to not make this another of my completely pointless posts, on the ob you will find a threat with quite a few people already getting their confirmation mail about the book being on its way. seems we might all win, krad is right and we might just get the book even before friday (unless of course amazon has a rigid system that insists on sticking to the date).

now, if they could "accidentally" send out the serenity novel, too... how much time machinery would have to be involved in that? *gets hammer and saw*.. what do you mean, "that wont do"? oh, right, i forgot *gets book*. here, "phsyics for dummies", all set now. i mean, how hard can it be to establish a sufficient and preferably 4-dimensional connection between two points in space time? this isn't rocket science, guys.

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:45 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by bobtaylor:
Well, heck, my essay is actually in the dang book, and I wasn't aware of this! I knew there was a reason I spend so much of my should-be-writing time surfing the Net.

Anyway, the book is great. (And I'm talking about all of it, not just my little bitty part. Although I am quite happy with the way it turned out.)

Can't wait to hear what you all think.

Welcome to the site Bob! Glad to have you drop in on us.

I am really looking forward to the book and will gladly post up my comments on it once I have the opportunity to read it.

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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:49 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by WalterPipp:
I'm a mild-mannered production tech at a major, metropolitan newspaper, so I have access to advance reading copies (ARCs) sent to our book reviewers before publication. I happened across Finding Serenity by accident tonight and haven't been able to put it down since.

I'm about halfway through and haven't gotten to your essay yet, Bob. Everything so far is very well written. Even if you're not a fan of non-fiction, there's a lot here for established fans, beginners, and not-yet fans to like. Kudos to you, Bob, for having your essay included and to everyone else associated with this project.

Best personal regards, Wallee_Pipps

Sounds like quite a book indeed WalterPipp. I am really looking forward to getting my hands on a copy.

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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:35 AM

FORRESTWOLF

I ordered a copy from Amazon in December for my brother; there's been silence from Amazon till TODAY, when I got an email complaining that my credit card number's changed since I ordered it.

I think that means they're shipping it! Given that the OB has some people announcing this, too, I guess I'm adding one more voice to that.

Now I'm going to have to order a copy for ME. WHY didn't I do that before? Oh, yeah - I thought I'd been watching the movie in a few weeks by now :)

Really looks like a great book, folks - and it's the best we've got till the movie comes out - so do your Browncoat duty and order one (or at least borrow one).

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Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:44 AM

KRAD

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What can you tell us about the book?

http://www.livejournal.com/users/kradical/144494.html

If you click on that link, you'll get the full table of contents[/url], which is about all I'm willing to say about the book without you, y'know, reading it.

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I'm going to be one of the people manning (womanning really) the table at the I-Con. By the way, I've never in my life gone to a convention (other than corporate business type conventions.) Should I be frightened?

Probably.

Keith R.A. DeCandido
keith@decandido.net
www.DeCandido.net | www.AlbeShiloh.com
www.livejournal.com/~kradical

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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:24 PM

EMBERS

Yay! Amazon just sent a message that my copy of
Finding Serenity has been mailed!
Maybe I'll actually get it on Friday!
Yay!

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Friday, April 1, 2005 9:23 AM

Hey, y'all:

I live in a mid-size Midwestern city (c. 300,000 souls) and my B&N has the book on the shelf, $17.95 + tax. Just thought you might like to know.

Gotta run now and purchase it (holding my copy at front cash registers)...

Respectfully,

zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Friday, April 1, 2005 11:44 AM

KAYLEE4SIMON

Went to two book stores this morning, Waldens books didn't have it in yet. I found it in the sci-fi section of B&N. I had my brother and a friend with me and was like "ok I found Serenity, we can leave now!"

Keep shiny!

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Friday, April 1, 2005 1:04 PM

CAITE

I live in Southern California and I just called my local Barnes and Noble and they have it as well. Looks like that's the bookstore to get it at right now

They're hold for me my very own shiny copy

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Friday, April 1, 2005 10:55 PM

Forrestwolf wrote:

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...do your Browncoat duty and order one (or at least borrow one).

Okay... Do not 'at least borrow one'. Buy one, now! If you have to go to Amazon or some other online bookseller, that's better than nothing. But, the best thing is to telephone every bookstore in your immediate vicinity. If one doesn't have it, tell 'em you'll call 'em back and then call the other ones 'til you find a copy on a real shelf, right this minute. Go there immediately and purchase it. Forsake McDonald's, or Pizza Hut for a month if you have to, but buy a copy, get your friends to buy a copy and make as big a noise about it as you can while doing it (which is why online purchase is second-best).

Everybody just answer these questions in your own heads, then make a rational decision:

1. How long has it been since we had anything new on Fireflyverse? 18 months since the DVD release, right? One or two movie promo photos leaked thru Germany; or con interviews, wherein people are so afraid to give anything away that they're scarcely even talking about the movie.

2. How long have we got left to wait before we get the movie? My calculation says nigh on 6 more months. That's 6 more months of tight-lipped, still-getting-nuthin' on the Fireflyverse.
(NB: And I ain't counting the screenings, because I'd never attend one, and I don't want to hear from those who have. When the finished movie comes out, I'll go see it.)

3. Have you got your DVD set? Got your BlueSun t-shirt? Got your orange tuque? And yet you're still considering plunking down a twenty for a book of essays from noted authors and sex therapists and TV critics speculating on the meaning of Firefly, and talking about how much they love it and why... Just like we do here.

Why are we still talking about this?

As a final sales point, having a BDH sign your friend's book is gonna make you look all manner of foolish...

Reasonably,

zoid

P.S.
And when Keith's book comes out, create as big a stampede to your local bookstore (preferably right next door to the theatre in which the movie is playing) as you possibly can. Buy your own copy of his Serenity novelization (and Dragon Precinct, too). If you're old enough to mow lawns or wash cars, you can scrape together the dosh to buy copies of these important books; if you're under 12, then it's okay to 'borrow' Mommy or Daddy's copy, if they'll let you. And as is surely true for a lot of us, if you're struggling to make ends meet like grandma trying to get into her old wedding dress, remember: That's why God gave you two kidneys. So splurge a little, already.

P.P.S.
Is this thing on?
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by zoid:
1. How long has it been since we had anything new on Fireflyverse? 18 months since the DVD release, right? One or two movie promo photos leaked thru Germany; or con interviews, wherein people are so afraid to give anything away that they're scarcely even talking about the movie.

Amen.

Got home today to find a box from Amazon sitting on the table. I set a new record for package opening. My first thought was to immediately notify fireflyfans that the April 1st delivery date was accurate. The second thought was to do a quick browse of the book. Guess which won out?

Well, I'm almost done (*with the first pass gestalt read through) and loving every minute of it. Crack. Pure, unadulterated crack cocaine.

Now I just have to come up for air and compose a review for Amazon.

Oh, and if Zoe is your favorite character (like me), then I highly recommend starting with the essays by Michelle Sagara West and Tanya Huff. Loved 'em.

* added for clarification. Definitely tens of hours of reading pleasure ahead. This is not a one and done type book.

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Next up: Early "Nutcrusher" Jubal and the Firebuggers

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 6:19 AM

Yo' Soup:

You might want to explain that you're obviously some kind of speed-reader to have finished the book in a single night; otherwise, folk'll think they're not getting their money's worth.

It's not that small a book, and it's really not that quick a read. Of course, I slow down a little when I'm trying to savor a book, as opposed to rushing through it. I chewed on it (carefully) for a couple of hours in the dull moments at work last night and only got through Jane Espenson's introduction and the first four essays.

It's not 'bubble gum' literature, either. There are intricate ideas expressed in detail, using +10th grade English. (NB: In case you didn't know, most people don't write at a 9th grade level.) It's not a frilly memento of a book...

Respectfully,

zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 9:12 AM

SLAYER730

I pre-ordered my coping of Finding Serenity from Amazon and received it on Wednesday. Needless to say, I'm almost finished with it. I have mixed feelings on the content of some of the essays, (especially the one about Jubal Early and OiS), but all in all I felt it was well-written and insightful. I thought the "top 5" from Jewel was a wonderful piece to end with, and made me a bit teary-eyed.

Most profound observation in the book? If Firefly had never been cancelled, Serenity would debut at the start of the show's FOURTH season on the air. Doesn't that just make ya weep?

Definitely pick up this book if you crave all-things-Firefly, but as already mentioned, it's not a fluff read. Take the time to enjoy the essays and even think about them a little bit afterwards (I know, it's hard!). Besides, it's worth it just so you can yell "Spoooooooooooon!" during the reading of a critical non-fiction book.

slayer730

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 10:15 AM

SHINY

Mercedes Lackey's essay on the illusion of freedom in Firefly just about blew my mind.

...and I'm only 1/3 of the way through the book. Er...'savoring it' as Zoid said...yeah, that's it...savoring...don't have to sound out them letters one at a time or nothin'...just taking time to enjoy the slow seepage of mind-blowing insights into my brain...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 11:23 AM

KAYLEE4SIMON

I'm about 2/3 the way through. Read part of it this morning riding in the car with my mom. I think my favorite part so far is "The Rise and Fall(and Rise) of Firefly (the behind-the-scenes story)" by Glenn Yeffeth. I couldn't stop laughing when I read the Dear Joss, letters.

Firefly vs. the Tick is very interesting as well, you'll love that part if you like space monkeys or Santa.

Keep shiny!

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Saturday, April 2, 2005 12:42 PM

CAITE

Yay! I just picked up my copy at Barnes and Noble and am savoring it along with the other people who have their copies. It's a must have; trust me.

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Sunday, April 3, 2005 4:02 PM

Shiny, et al:

While I haven't read the whole book yet, I'd have to agree that Ms. Lackey's treatise is the most spot-on with how I felt about the show. She and I reached many of the same conclusions (with the exception of Book).

And while I'd debate KRAD over some of the exceptions he took with TTJ, I agree with him that it was not a proper introduction to Firefly. F*x screwed the pooch when they didn't air the 2-hour pilot first, as intended.

KRAD: And I wouldn't have cut a thing from the pilot. Kaylee's stealthy stroll into the kitchen before eating her strawberry, heightened the sense of 'What's in the box? Drugs? Blood diamonds?', for me. Since we already knew Kaylee by the time the F*xheads got around to showing us Serenity Pt. 1 & 2, I was kinda suspecting vintage Pokemon cards... In retrospect, we know it was only a strawberry, that made Kaylee purr throatily, "Grampa!"; but when we first viewed the episode that box could have contained anything.

I'd have plunked down good money to see the pilot in a theater. You know, spruce up the production values a little; but otherwise, movie-quality story, characters, pacing and acting talent.

So, I guess that's what I'll be doing after all, this September 30th...

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
Consolidating several threads that I hope most readers are familiar with: Jewel Staite is an incredible actress. The intricacies of her character, Kaylee, are the proof in that pudding. As a young actress in her first network series -- having graduated from Nickelodeon -- it cannot have been easy to do rear (dorsal?) nudity and a rather explicit sex scene, then come out of it smiling like your favorite aunt, then skip a beat and go into technical mode to explain to the dumb boys about the intricacies of an engine. All in one scene! I was gobsmacked with that OoG scene. And all of her other work on the show did nothing to dispel that impression. She flawlessly pulled off a wide range of facial and bodily expressions of emotion (think of the rape-threat scene in OiS, or her 'flirt with me' flip to a 'you're a jackass' dismount with Simon in "The Message"). If Orson Scott Card didn't 'get it', he's a moron. Then she shows up unannounced at a casual Firefly fan get-together in Vancouver, like a regular Flan, to enjoy some Firefly with friends (and perhaps, just a little, to bask in some well-deserved glow).

It's official: I think the world of her.
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Monday, April 4, 2005 7:06 AM

NAKEDANDARTICULATE

i have read the first 46 pages and i am "loving every minute"* reading this book----go now to your bookstore and buy this----it is the prequel to serenity merchandise!!!!!!

*-"loving every minute"-80's song by loverboy

"Hamsters is nice."

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Monday, April 4, 2005 8:21 AM

LETOV

I ended up going this weekend to a B&N and found they didn't have it in stock. I checked with an employee there who looked it up in their system finding a number of stores here, in the Atlanta area, for which basically the system said "call for availability". NONE of the stores had it. I'm still looking for my copy which I guess I'll probably end up ordering online, but I'm please to see that it looks like it was ordered by these stores and hopefully sold out. Good sign, I hope.

- Leto_V

"Well, my days of not taking you
seriously are certainly coming to
a middle." - Mal

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Monday, April 4, 2005 8:30 AM

SUPERANT

Looked in BN in Glendale on Friday night, thinking I could get a copy before the Meetup on Saturday. No joy. The clerk had not heard of it. He found it in the computer after we played 21 questions. But we couldn't find it on the shelves.

Anyway the postman delivered it Saturday before I left for Meetup, Shiny.

Have only read a few essays, out of order. I'm loving it. The last article at the end, by Jewel, is great. The article on possible Reaver predecessors is creapy, I liked it.

Superant

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Monday, April 4, 2005 2:25 PM

EICHINGER

Finding Serenity is great. The Chinese translation "essay" is worth the price alone. Seems there are some seriously messed up people over there at Mutant Enemy to come up with this stuff. :) :)

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Monday, April 4, 2005 6:53 PM

SHINY

Quote:
Originally posted by Eichinger:
Finding Serenity is great. The Chinese translation "essay" is worth the price alone. Seems there are some seriously messed up people over there at Mutant Enemy to come up with this stuff. :) :)

And in case you weren't aware, that essay and the glossary in the back were both written by our own Ying ("FFYING"), a regular both here at FFF.net and over on the OB.

Great work, Ying!!!

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Monday, April 4, 2005 7:58 PM

now i really have to wonder what's wrong with our amazon. there are planes, there is no excuse for still not shipping it or at least updating the page still claiming i should have got it 1-4 days ago *grrr*. and why is it still called shipping anyway? will it be called starshipping in 500 years? *g*

http://festini.device-zero.de

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Monday, April 4, 2005 10:08 PM

FRAY101

Just to add an English point of view - I'd preordered from Amazon.co.uk which gave me an estimated dispatch date of 31st March. Checked back on 1st April to see whether it had shipped and they'd suddenly announced it was "limited availability" (just checked again as I'm writing this and it now says dispatched in 1-2 weeks).

Anyhow, as I'm off for a quick trip to New York on Sunday I decided to cancel the order and hope to pick one up there.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2005 12:22 AM