You know what we need? An Urban Legend. by PhoenixRose

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You know what we need? An Urban Legend.

POSTED BY: PHOENIXROSE
UPDATED: Saturday, July 29, 2006 18:09
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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:33 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I am totally serious. I've just been on a site that researches them, www.snopes.com, and it talks about how prevalient they are.
We need a good Urban Legend for Firefly and/or Serenity. A truth, a half-truth, an embroidered truth, and all-out falsehood; something that will catch the attention of the public and can be e-mailed from person to person.
Ideas?

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:39 AM

ARBAS

You could use the fake series 2 website !!!!!

If there's a special hell the people that create c*** like that are going there ...

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:45 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I mean things that people outside the fandom will be morbidly fascinated with. Something that will give them the overwhelming urge to go out and buy the DVD's just to see if it's really true

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:57 AM

DAVESHAYNE

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I mean things that people outside the fandom will be morbidly fascinated with. Something that will give them the overwhelming urge to go out and buy the DVD's just to see if it's really true

You mean like the subliminal image inserted into one of the later episodes that consists of 1 frame with the entire crew standing directly facing the camera stark raving naked. I don't remember which scene it is so people will have to watch them all in frame advance mode to spot it.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:00 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Exactly like that!

*isn't sure whether to cheer or laugh*

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:03 AM

ARBAS

Ahhhh you mean the SECOND easter egg in the special features section ....

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:04 AM

MSG

or how about that fox executive who was forced to resign from the network for tampering with Nielsen results right after Firefly was cancelled...and coincidentally he had previously worked at the WB network and had been fired by Joss

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:10 AM

ARBAS

Oh I like that one ...

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:13 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

And why did it "not work out" with Rebecca Gayheart?
Hmmmmmm...
Hey, this one is true: the scene she filmed was deliberately filmed so she could be easily replaced with a minimum of re-shooting.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:16 AM

MSG

ooh we combine them the fired fox exec who got his revenge by tampering with ratings to get the show cancelled at the request of his lover who was so replaceable scenes were shot with her replacement in mind...
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I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:27 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Or how about the dead guy who was haunting the set? I'm sure you can see him in the background in a couple of scenes but I don't remember which eps they were so they'd have to watch the whole series to find out.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:28 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:

I just have to say how much I love this...

Yes, that would be an interesting little legend...

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:31 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Quote:
Originally posted by Kayna:
Or how about the dead guy who was haunting the set? I'm sure you can see him in the background in a couple of scenes but I don't remember which eps they were so they'd have to watch the whole series to find out.

Oh no, we can try to find something that actually looks all weird and give a specific episode; they'd still have to buy the series. Even on netflicks there would be at least four hours on a disk they got; that would be sufficient...

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:33 AM

DAVESHAYNE

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Exactly like that!

*isn't sure whether to cheer or laugh*

Ooh. Got a better one. If you take the first seven words spoken by Mal after timestamp 1:07 in each episode and re-arange the letters it reveals a crucial plot point from the seventh - and presumably final - Harry Potter book.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:36 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Oh hey, here's another one! In Jaynestown, I could have sworn that Jayne actually said "F*ck the law" when he was talking to the mudders. (I know it's probably supposed to be "fought the law" but that is not how it sounded to me the first few times...)

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:37 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

You're good at this Dave.
I like that one a lot. And your first one actually.

Where are your ideas coming from? Your first one made me thing of Fight Club were they actually did insert a single frame of a cock. The film makers admit it and they even refer to it in the movie. Not as brave as yours however becaue you don't know who it belongs to. In your idea, you get lots of genitals and a face to go with each and every one.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:45 AM

MSG

Hey actually we don't need to make it up. Firefly is the only show that aired 13 episodes on national t.v. all of which violated ( technically) the Federal Decency code due to audible, understandable swearing. Think about it. It may have been in chinese, but according to the code that doesn't matter swearing in any language ( well F word, S word, and derrivations of those two) are prohibeted and any one whoe violates it pays a huge fine...well Soth Park just paid the fine for their s word show, but Firefly stands as the only show to violate that code in every single episode and never be fined!!!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:53 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Well, they only use "F" and "S" in the first one, technically.
Wait, I think War Stories too, although it's translated as "mother-humping" but that would work...
We don't want to have the Feds going after them, though, telling them now they have to pay a fine.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:11 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Keep it up! I have to go to bed!

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:14 AM

MSG

Night Phoenix...big cosmic HUGS and snuggles

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:18 AM

DAVESHAYNE

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Originally posted by Kayna:
You're good at this Dave.

Thanks. Pity it doesn't pay though I could use a job.

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Where are your ideas coming from?

Strait from the Left frontal lobe just behind the occular nexus.

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Your first one made me thing of Fight Club were they actually did insert a single frame of a cock.

Lots of filmakers insert the occasional one or two frame shots of odd little images - particularly in animation. It's not always nudity either. Any strange or unrelated image can get used in this way.

The original idea was that the image would be seen and processed subconsiously while not being noticed by the conscious mind. There were experiments using the technique for advertising on the theory that people would see the advert and act on it without realizing they had been manipulated. Later studies have shown that the whole subliminal advertising thing doesn't work so now it just happens because filmakers think it's a giggle.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:33 AM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

How 'bout like the Wizard of Oz and Pink Floyd...
http://www.everwonder.com/david/wizardofoz/

If you Start Pink Floyd the Dark Side of the Moon at the same time as the pilot episode. The PF music follows along exactly.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:37 AM

MYCROFTXXX

Here's a strange and creepifying one that sometimes appears with the release of other movies...

In River's Reaver fight scene, one of the stuntment actually got caught in the throat with her axe. Although the axe is mostly harmless silicone, she swung it with such force the core of it inflicted a debilitating wound to the larnyx and the stuntman can't speak to this day. And here's the creepifying part...because the shot was soooo good they kept it and if you look closely you can see it in the movie.

To make it even more plausible, make up a realistic sounding but totally fictitious name (one that doesn't appear in the credits) of the stuntman. If someone asks why he doesn't appear in the credits say it is because of ongoing litigation.

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Given a choice between the earth-that-is and the 'verse-that-will-be I'll take the latter.

宁静

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:54 AM

SCHOONER

Supposedly...I'm just passing this on, you understand, but supposedly Joss got the CGI team to create images that can be seen in Serenity's exhaust. The pilot episode shows them best, an image of Buffy if I'm not mistaken. Also, when Jayne says "let's moon 'em", part of the exhaust definately looks someone's (Nathan's?) backside.

I understand he did the same thing in the movie, but I'm not sure what the images are.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:59 AM

JTSKIER1200R

I heard that whenever you watch Firefly, an angel gets its wings...oh wait...

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:10 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

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I heard that whenever you watch Firefly, an angel gets its wings...oh wait...

*sniff* Fly true, Wash. *sniff*

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:33 AM

DOROTHEA

I could see a really successful urban legend get launched from the kiss between Inara and that female ambassador... We could start a fake "boycott Fox" campaign in which we all complain about all the lesbian sex in the show and how we're so offended. That would sell so many box sets. Seriously, wouldn't that work?

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:37 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Well I'm surprised no one's mentioned using the fruity oaty bars scene. Where a vewier watched it, got mesmerized and was compelled to do something. What I dunno. Maybe a battered wife who saw the film at a friends and after seeing that one clip went home straight away and kicked the ass of her beating husband.

Or it just made people hungry for fruity oaty bars.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:37 PM

GRIZWALD

Quote:
Originally posted by Dorothea:
I could see a really successful urban legend get launched from the kiss between Inara and that female ambassador... We could start a fake "boycott Fox" campaign in which we all complain about all the lesbian sex in the show and how we're so offended. That would sell so many box sets. Seriously, wouldn't that work?

LOL! That's a great one. We need to all claim to be "concerned parents" who are worried about the corruption of our teenaged sons.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:15 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

We got a good one staring us right in the face so to speak-and it's true-Nathan's backside. Swirled over by dust by SciFi and obscured by the computery special effect later as he walks up the ramp. What conspiracy is this?-depriving the heterosexual women of the world a nice rump roast.

Combined with the s and f word in Chinese, Zoe and Wash in their bunk, Jayne,Kaylee and Simon, Inara's lesbian scene for the guys and lesbians (what part of "I'll be in my bunk" don't you understand?)and River naked in a box, and VIOLENCE AND TORTURE it covers just about everything.

AND THIS GREAT ALL INCLUSIVE SHOW WAS CANCELLED BY FOX!

The sales should skyrocket.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:15 PM

THEMANTHEYCALLMATT

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ncbrowncoat wrote:
We got a good one staring us right in the face so to speak-and it's true-Nathan's backside. Swirled over by dust by SciFi and obscured by the computery special effect later as he walks up the ramp. What conspiracy is this?-depriving the heterosexual women of the world a nice rump roast.

Combined with the s and f word in Chinese, Zoe and Wash in their bunk, Jayne,Kaylee and Simon, Inara's lesbian scene for the guys and lesbians (what part of "I'll be in my bunk" don't you understand?)and River naked in a box, and VIOLENCE AND TORTURE it covers just about everything.

You know, I would have thought the naked River scene, the naked Mal scene, and the various naked Inara scenes would be enough to keep any hot-blooded human interested. Not to mention shirtless Simon and Jayne. Of course, I think anyone who actually sees the series can't help but love it, the problem is the staggering number of people who haven't seen it.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:28 PM

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Love it folks, keep up the good work!!!!
Some of those urban legends are good stuff.
I can't think of anything to add, but keep it up.
I like the ones everyone has tossed in so far.
mata, Ookami yori

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:37 PM

ONTHEDRIFT

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
ooh we combine them the fired fox exec who got his revenge by tampering with ratings to get the show cancelled at the request of his lover who was so replaceable scenes were shot with her replacement in mind...

Oh I love a good urban legend. Msg yours totally made me giggle, however it seems more soap operay the urban legendy. We should come up with a really good viral type urban legend.

We just need to figure out how to best disseminate it into the general population. By the way I'm loving anything that sticks it to F#x.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:08 PM

PINBALLWIZARD

Firefly already IS it's own urban legend, namely "The Myth of that One TV Show that Everyone Seems to Have Heard Of but No One Has Time to Watch." Sorry if that's a bit pessimistic, but another potential convert seems to think he has no time to slip in the DVD I wanted to give him. And he's a political science major, you'd think he'd appreciate the future the show displayed.

I'm not letting him get away.

No, I am not insane, I am crazy. Thank you for asking.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:08 PM

PINBALLWIZARD

Arrr, it be the Curse of the Double Post! I be havin' a southern accent!

No, I am not insane, I am crazy. Thank you for asking.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:25 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Oh - I got one!!

The executive at F**X (

) who had the series axed before it screened was under pressure to justify this, so he consulted several occultist practisioners - including Tarot readers and at least one medium - and mathematicians from Cal Tech to decide in which order the episodes had to be shown to gain the poor ratings he so desperately wanted! Add to this the rumour of a love/relationship interest with someone (anyone) who either was replaced on Firefly or was facing the end of their contract on Buffy and you get something quite plaussible - after all I have never heard of a realistic reason why the series was shown out of sequence in the US first time around...

NB(I have no idea what Cal Tech is but it's usually referred to in American films when justifying some theorem (

)

Oh - my back hurts - goin' to lie down some more before I get into this again...

Magda x x

"I love my Captain!"

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:03 PM

KANEMAN

....or if you watch it while standing on your head. You can see the movie Grease

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:27 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

man, I need to come up with one of these

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:43 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
....or if you watch it while standing on your head. You can see the movie Grease

He he he ... not that I'll be doin' any standin on my head at the moment... but I'd like to see that!

Maybe just some subliminal cut in's... or faint but just audible...

Objects in Space: Kaylee and Simon in the coridoor just after Simon's said he'll take River off the boat (we hear "Simon you're the one that I want...OhOhOh") then Shepherd Book interrupts.. ("Stranded in the Firefly...feelin' like a fool..." - there could even be subliminal 'good dogs' dancin' in the background for that) OK - I've seen Grease way too often!!

"I love my Captain!"

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:55 PM

KANEMAN

"Look at me i'm zoe"

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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:01 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Well then, lots of ideas I see. So, who has a lot of random e-mail addresses they can send these to? Or random websites that will post them? (Not snopes; the research them; we don't want them to be the first to get ahold of it because it might not spread from there. Unless it's true, then it might.)

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:13 AM

ZOETYPE

How about, if you pause the end of "Trash" just right you can see Nathan Fillion's penis?

teehee

"You with the bathing, me with the watching you bathe."

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:29 AM

BSCPANTHERFAN

Here's one: The tattoo on Nathan's hip is the missing frame of the Zapruder film showing the 2nd gunman shooting from the grassy knoll in Dallas.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 8:33 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Heres mine:
If you play the rendidtion of "Hero of Canton" from Jaynestown backwards, it spells out the meaninmg of life.

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:29 PM

DOROTHEA

Maybe one way to start the urban legend is to put bogus feedback on sites like amazon. However, you'll have to periodically delete your feedback and then put it back in, to keep it at the top for people to see.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:34 PM

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Magdalena,
Caltech is actaully the short form name for a University in Southern Cali (I'm pretty sure its South Cali) Hope that helps you out. Yeah a lot of U.S. colleges and higher learning institutes have abriveated or short form names.
mata, Ookami yori

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:54 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Yep, Magdelena. What he said.
California Technical...there's probably something on the end of this but It's not really that important.

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Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:40 PM

FLORALBUNNY

California Institute of Technology.
An appropriate reference in the context
used here.
One of the top institutions in the world
for study areas such as Physics, etc.

I have your "haunted set" image for you.
In OiS, just a smidge before a wipe-pan
down from the galley, if you look at the
countertop you can see what looks to me
like a stage-hand leaning forward onto
the cutting board. But they wouldn't make
a mistake like that -- no, no. So he must
be (tremolo into a stinger) a ghost!
We need to make up a story for him,
something romantic and tragic -- he fell
from Serenity's catwalk while chasing
Summer and Nathan wouldn't clean it up
-- dunno here -- think I need more food --
*wanders off to question buffet in galley*

bun
munch, munch, munch...

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:50 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Quote:
Originally posted by Dorothea:
Maybe one way to start the urban legend is to put bogus feedback on sites like amazon. However, you'll have to periodically delete your feedback and then put it back in, to keep it at the top for people to see.

Is that how they get started? See, I've always wondered...

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:29 PM

THESOAPBOXER

Did you guys hear about how Joss Whedon died in a car crash before the DVD set came out? Apparently, the remaining producers didn't want this to bring down sales so they hired a (much more attractive) look-a-like to impersonate Mr. Whedon. But Tim Minear, disgusted with this plan, put hidden messages at the last minute into the three unaired episodes proving that Joss is dead and, oddly enough, Wash is still alive.

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Could you please just make it stranger? Just stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?
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