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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Should they keep making it?


YES! YES! YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!

*cough* As I've mentioned several times before, I was a fan of Buffy and Angel before I saw Firefly. The best thing, the very best thing, about those shows was watching the characters' personalities unfold over time. Joss is in love with his characters, and he tells the most incredible stories. The cruellest loss for me when Firefly was cancelled was all those stories as yet untold, all those little things that would happen gradually to each of the BDHs. I love that we got the BD Movie, but for me television is where Joss really comes into his own. I wanted to get to know these characters, the same way I'd gotten to know the cast of Buffy and Angel. And while I'd be thrilled as heck at Serenity II, I still long for the TV show.

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Should they keep making it?


YES! YES! YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!

*cough* As I've mentioned several times before, I was a fan of Buffy and Angel before I saw Firefly. The best thing, the very best thing, about those shows was watching the characters' personalities unfold over time. Joss is in love with his characters, and he tells the most incredible stories. The cruellest loss for me when Firefly was cancelled was all those stories as yet untold, all those little things that would happen gradually to each of the BDHs. I love that we got the BD Movie, but for me television is where Joss really comes into his own. I wanted to get to know these characters, the same way I'd gotten to know the cast of Buffy and Angel. And while I'd be thrilled as heck at Serenity II, I still long for the TV show.

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Should they keep making it?


YES! YES! YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!

*cough* As I've mentioned several times before, I was a fan of Buffy and Angel before I saw Firefly. The best thing, the very best thing, about those shows was watching the characters' personalities unfold over time. Joss is in love with his characters, and he tells the most incredible stories. The cruellest loss for me when Firefly was cancelled was all those stories as yet untold, all those little things that would happen gradually to each of the BDHs. I love that we got the BD Movie, but for me television is where Joss really comes into his own. I wanted to get to know these characters, the same way I'd gotten to know the cast of Buffy and Angel. And while I'd be thrilled as heck at Serenity II, I still long for the TV show.

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Originally posted by JaynesBowie:

I don't know. That may be true when using different writer, but Joss always kept Buffy new and intresting, even after killing off Buffy.

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Originally posted by Fizzix:
You know, before seeing this thread, I'd always thought yes. Book was the concience of Serenity, but no one particularly cared about him unless he was the reason they were watching the show.

Wash, on the other hand, tends to cause a problem when he's all... missing. E.g. not with the living, breathing, crew. There was a reason Joss was able to bring Buffy back -- there was magic. Wash was kinda ... oh, let's use one of my prettyful faux Klingon words here. Thoguh.("THO-guh" verb. To impale beloved characters, typically from a movie. Examples, Wash, Qui-Gon Jinn.) If I were to be impaled by a spike that was the size of a telephone pole, I wouldn't live. I wouldn't get ressurected. There's no way. What possible reason is there for Wash to come back? That's the only way the series ought to come back, with full complement. I don't want a series without Wash. If this makes me unBrowncoat ish, slap a redshirt on me and send me on an away mission on the TOS era, but really.

If I just launched into an argument you don't want to read, follow the unBrowncoat ish instructions above, but consider this: Wash is what got me hooked on Firefly, the "This Land" is my favorite 'verse moment, closely followed by "Define Interesting". Both are Wash. I love Mal, but the series just shouldn't go on without Wash.


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Originally posted by Muddersmilk:

Core characters died.

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Originally posted by Muddersmilk:

What I'm saying is that change is good.

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Originally posted by Muddersmilk:

Core characters died.

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Actually, that's singular, only Buffy died. And even then, she was brought back.

When we consider the core characters of Buffy (Buffy, Xander, Willow, Giles - the original four) they all were throughout. It was only the characters that got added later that were killed and even then a lot of those survived (eg Oz, Wesley, Cordelia, etc).

Angel got sent to Hell, came back and then left. But, he still survived throught his show (go figure). Doyle only lasted a few eps, so I'm of the opinion that he's not a core character in that series.

Though I'm only 3/4 through the 1st season of Angel, I'd be surprised if anyone significant died (ie core characters - Angle, Cordelia and Wesley).

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Originally posted by Muddersmilk:

What I'm saying is that change is good.

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Change is good. I certainly agree. But, it has to be organic. The kind of thunking that is involved in the changes that we'd get would be quite harsh.

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Originally posted by Darkfly:
There has to be at least another movie or series because if there isn't either then we we'll not be talking about Firefly/Serenity in a few years,it will always be remembered as the flop TV series and the flop movie and we don't want that to happen do we.We want their to be another movie or series so that this time it will be popular and continue the story.We NEED another series or movie.

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Originally posted by 22Claws:

I don't want to spoil anything but the bodycount does get pretty high before it's over.

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Originally posted by 22Claws:

I vote big YES to more firefly. Reconciling the events of the movie, while challenging, is not an insurmountable feat for a great writer. These are exactly the type of challenges that make Joss a genius.

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Originally posted by 22Claws:
I was actually talking about Angel. Not Buffy.

Check the core character carnage.
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On a deviously related side note: Why do those of you who think Firefly should be permanently discontinued still hang around these boards? Just to stir up resentment?

I'd like to think not. I'm inclined to believe that you don't really know why you linger here. You may say, 'For the camaraderie' or '...community'; but I think it goes back to the unique power of science fiction to leave you transfixed with Wonderment, and the contemplation of what it means to be human.

Firefly is science fiction, and we need more of it in the entertainment world.

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P.S.
On a deviously related side note: Why do those of you who think Firefly should be permanently discontinued still hang around these boards? Just to stir up resentment?

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As a last note, there are those of us that are working to forward it in a different medium ie games.

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should they continue making firefly?
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I'm one of those who does not support a return of Firefly as a tv series. I tend to agree that it's been too long since Firefly was on the air, and it would never be quite the same as the original episodes. I don't think we can get more of what was, but that doesn't mean I don't think there can't be something else.

I support the return of Firefly as a mini series, as another movie, as a video game, etc. I would even support a new series set in the same 'Verse, with maybe one or two of the characters we know, but with primarily a new cast. The universe is interesting enough (and open enough!), and Joss's writing is so wonderful that I think most of us would quickly fall in love with a new cast.


As much as I hate to compare Firefly to Star Trek (I think some people sometimes take what did happen to Star Trek to mean that the same exact thing will happen to Firefly, but that's a different topic), I think the similarities are worth pointing out here. The original Star Trek series was canceled prematurely, and by the time The Motion(less) Picture came out, I don't think a return to the tv format, with the same crew, would have worked. Too much time had passed. But the movie worked, and despite not being the most exciting thing ever made, they were able to make more (and better!) movies, still with the same crew. And then there was The Next Generation series -- new cast, later time period, same universe and same basic set up. It couldn't ever be the same show, but the license was put to good use.

That's my take on Firefly: I don't think we'll ever be able to have the same show, or be able to continue what we should have gotten to begin with. But the license is fantastic, and I think it can still be put to good use. Movies, mini series, video games, whatever. I'll take what I can get. But a return of the crew of Serenity to the weekly small-screen format... Well, I would approach it with much trepidation.

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