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Noted FFF.net Member Wins Firefly Script Auction

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:22 AM

DONCOAT


Okay, folks, it's time to 'fess up. I was going to keep this on the QT, but it's just way too shiny not to share it with my fellow Browncoats.

I, DonCoat, am the crazy person who won the eBay auction for Adam Baldwin's script for Serenity (the pilot episode). It's here at DonCoat Manor, sitting within reach as I write this, and I must say -- it was worth every penny (especially since all those pennies went to a good cause).

Let me give you a little description. The package contained the following items: a nice personal thank-you note from Adam; an autographed photo of "The Man They Call Jayne" sandwiched between a couple of Serenity-logo publicity posters; and a neatly packaged script.

The script is a bit over 100 looseleaf pages held together with metal bendy tabs (not sure what those are called). The cover page is green, and is signed by all nine principals plus Joss and Tim Minear. There are a couple stains on the front and back covers -- you can imagine the cast munching on donuts as they sat down for their read-throughs. The interior pages are typed or printed on one side only. There are a number of revisions; those pages are green as well, and include a few extra pages (e.g. 18 and 18A). The final revision is dated July 24, 2002.

Now here's where things get really interesting.

Adam has highlighted all of his lines (or Jayne's, if you prefer) in yellow highlighter, except on the revised pages. In a few places he has written some comments in the margins. And some of those comments are fascinating, and even hi-larious.

Page 8: (the script is describing the Dortmunder and its captain. Adam's note: "The Boring People".

Page 30: after Mal's line, "Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that," the script gives Jayne's line as: "I'm ready to stop talking whenev --". Adam has written in, "--er and wherever you call it." Now, I haven't checked whether this line was shot with that extension on it, or if Adam just wanted clarification about what he was supposed to be saying so it would sound more natural when Mal cut him off. Either way it's pretty shiny.

Page 39: Adam got a little careless with the highlighter and left a mark in the margin. Maybe a random accident, but it happens to be just opposite Inara's line to Book and Mal: "It's all right. I mostly keep to myself. When I'm not whoring." So it doesn't seem too much of a stretch that Adam might have gotten wild with the marker because he was laughing along with the rest of the cast at that point.

Page 63: in the scene where the crew are discussing Simon's actions in forcing Mal to run from the Feds, Inara says "He didn't shoot her." Jayne's line is "But somebody on this boat did and I'm scratching my head as to why we ain't dealt with him." Adam's note to himself: Push their Buttons.

Page 82: discussing making the deal with Patience, Jayne says: "Still say there's gonna be gunplay." Adam writes: (happy)

And now we come to the real gem of the whole script. Jayne's last line comes on page 104, in the scene where Mal is asking him why he didn't take Dobson's bribe: "Well, that'll be an interesting day." Now, imagine the scene. Adam has been hired for the role of Jayne, and knows only a little bit about him (he's a mercenary, not too bright, not too dependable, etc.) The cast gets their script for the pilot episode and, for the first time, they read it through and get a real idea of the character they're going to be playing. And what's Adam's reaction?

I'll tell you what it is, because he wrote it down right there in the margin. And here's what he had to say about Jayne:

....... I like him! .......

Underscored twice.

Adam, we are all so very glad you did. You made him unforgettable.


So that's my initial impression of the Serenity script. I hope you enjoyed hearing about it. And if any of you folks were bidding against me, I offer my condolences, though I can't honestly say I'm sorry I outbid you. This stack of paper is now one of my most valued possessions, and it will soon be in a bank deposit box for safekeeping.

Oh, one other observation: did you know the correct spelling is "Gorramn", with an n?


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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:32 AM

TRISTAN


Thank you for sharing that with us! And at the same time, congratulations for winning the bid...and *kick*! Lucky so-and-so! ()
I was not aware that gorramn was spelt that way...now I'm gonna have to go back and edit all my posts...

Again, thanks for sharing the notes!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:37 AM

GURNEY


Wow! Congrats on the new shiny treasure and thanks for sharing it with us!

-Gurney

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:40 AM

FIZZIX


you have earned of the shinyness, and we bask in it's simulated prescence. *basking* Hey... we need to get some more sunscreen over here!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:45 AM

DAYVE


Congratulations DonCoat.... i have to say that i was in the bidding for a while.... you guys left me around the thousand dollar mark... and to say you won... well, that's shiny.... but winning has a price. And i think it was around 22 hundred bucks.... (for a good cause... good on ya DonCoat)

thanks for sharing.....



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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:51 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I looked up something in the Serenity Visual Companion the other day and noticed that spelling of gorramn. If I am not mistaken, all of the captions on the Firefly dvds have it spelled without the n, and the next time I watch the BDM I'll leave the captions on to check for that.

Congratulations on your shiny luck, Doncoat. I'm sure I'm not the only one a little bit envious.




wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:53 AM

FOLLOWMAL




Oh, DonCoat! What a prize! I'm so glad you won.. and that your money went to a worthy cause as well.

Thank you for sharing the insights... I can just see all that in my mind's eye the way you explained it.

Gorramn, huh? I like that.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:55 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Well done DonCoat and thankyou for sharing. You are a shiny example to all us browncoats.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:58 AM

NCBROWNCOAT


Glad you got the script DonCoat. It sounds like each script will have something new and exciting. Just wish I had the coin to bid for one


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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:04 AM

MSG


Don- thanks for sharing. It's a nice glimpse into their process and a moment in time I'd bet we all with we were there for:) You're sweet to share so generously:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2


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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:09 AM

11THHOUR


Thanks for sharing those fascinating insights. I was wondering what Adam's notes were like. It really comes through that he enjoys the hell out of playing Jayne!

Congrats on winning this treasure. Glad it went to a devoted fan who will be taking good care of it.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:12 AM

WTE


I hope every winner posts as kickass a review as you just did. Thank you.

NOTE: I also hope that maybe one of the less popular episodes goes for, like, $10. I could afford a ten dollar script >_>

HONKS

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:44 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by WTE:
I hope every winner posts as kickass a review as you just did. Thank you.

NOTE: I also hope that maybe one of the less popular episodes goes for, like, $10. I could afford a ten dollar script >_>

HONKS

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, WTE...

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:55 AM

AZHEA


Congrats on winning!

I have to say, the way you shared your observations left me feelin' shiny!

We all like Jayne, Adam!! Thank you for making him so memorable!!!

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I love my Captain!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:17 PM

NOTYOLANDA


Thank you so much for sharing the notes in the script!!! I watched as the cost went higher and higher knowing that I couldn't afford it. I appreciate you being a good winner and letting us enjoy it also! Have a shiny day! Elaine

Please! Nobody died last time!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:17 PM

DANREGAL


Congrats again Doncoat!

Since Adam is sending them himself, I didn't get a chance to look at them, so thank you for the description.

Now who else wants their own piece of Firefly history? Bushwhacked is up right now and at $620, it is still within range for some of us.

Tomorrow we're listing Shindig. It's the first script that is not only signed by the 9, Joss and Tim, but the writer as well...Jane Espenson!

And don't forget the Serenity movie Simon costume is up right now to benefit Equality Now.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcaliforniabrowncoatsQQhtZ-1

Thank you everyone for bidding and helping us raise so much for MCLEF.

James


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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:28 PM

MUGZY


Very cool! Thanks for sharing your prize with us!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:49 PM

BIGDAMNTEXAN


Hey Doncoat congats on your new treasure your shinyness!!! and a great cause as well--- BONUS!!!!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:08 PM

VICOMTE


Gorram(n), I got's to find me a bank to rob.

When we get the script, we'll divide it by page, we could be bad guys...together.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:27 PM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


Thanks for sharing and congratulations! I must admit that I am jealous as hell though. Thanks too for informing us of the correct spelling of gorramn.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:00 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Shiny shiny shiny!
...
Is "gorrammit" still right, though?


An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Gautama Siddharta

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:31 PM

ARCADIA


oh! congrats, congrats! and thats for your notes on his script with notes -- love it!

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:29 PM

VERSEEXPLORER


Shiny! I loved reading about Adam's note. I think we love Jayne so much because Adam liked him.

Gorramn? Really? I guess if we had taken time to figure out what the spelling of the root word was, we might have figured it out for ourselves. Gorramn spelling lesson!

Thanks again DonCoat for sharing.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:58 PM

WTE


What time do these things go online?

HONKS

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:17 PM

DANREGAL


Quote:

Originally posted by WTE:
What time do these things go online?

HONKS



We are trying to list them before noon PST. We may list some later, but for the most part they will all be around the same time.

Thanks
James


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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:46 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by DanRegal:
Tomorrow we're listing Shindig. It's the first script that is not only signed by the 9, Joss and Tim, but the writer as well...Jane Espenson!


Well now, technically speaking, my Serenity script was also signed by the writer.

But I take your point...

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:56 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Is "gorrammit" still right, though?

You know, I haven't found an example of that variant.

Before I stash this thing away in a vault I plan to watch through the pilot with the script in front of me, comparing it with the filmed/edited version. When I do that I'll keep my eyes open for "gorrammit" and (if it's there) I'll get back to you.


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I've been thinking... in case anyone is considering bidding on the other scripts, it's probably a good idea to conjure which episodes have relatively more Jayne in them. It's obvious (in hindsight) that those will be more interesting because of Adam's notes. I'm referring to "Jaynestown" here, and maybe one or two other eps. Whereas, say, "Objects In Space" would be less likely to have those little extras.

Take it from me: the script itself is nice, with the autographs and all, but it's the notes that make it a real treasure.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:08 AM

ESTHER


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Is "gorrammit" still right, though?




www.fireflywiki.org
has all the scripts of the series, so if you know, in which episode they used "gorrammit", you could look it up.

The scripts obviously are the originals (like the piloter still has the scene where Zoe talks about Mal loosing everything in the war, which was later taken out). If anyone cared to know:

Quote:



ENCYCLOPEDIA
In the war to unite the planets, The Battle Of Serenity was among the most devastating and decisive. Located on Hera, the valley was considered a key position by both sides, and was bitterly fought over. The Independent Faction, with sixteen brigades and twenty air-tank squads,
held the valley against Alliance forces for almost two months, until superior numbers and a brilliant deep- flank strategy by General Richard
Wil --

ZOE
What does it say under 'bloodbath'?

Simon turns off the book, seeing Zoe in his doorway.

SIMON
I'm was just trying to --

ZOE
We're not in there. The book, I mean. We're not generals or diplomats, we didn't turn the tide of glorious history or whatever that thing is supposed to spew.

SIMON
You know what they say: History is programmed by the winners.

ZOE
Nearly half a million people lay dead on that field at day's end, about a third of them 'winners'. Can you imagine the smell? Can you imagine piling up the bodies of soldiers -- of friends -- to build a wall 'cause you got no cover? Blood just kept pouring out of them, you'd slip in it half the time, find out bloodbath is not just a figure of speech.

SIMON
Mal was there with you.

She enters, sits across from him.

ZOE
He was my sergeant. In command of thirty-odd grunts -- five days in, there were so many officers dead he commanded two thousand. Kept us
together, kept us fighting, kept us sane. By the time the fighting was over he had maybe four hundred still intact.

SIMON
That's a hell of a --

ZOE
I said the fighting was over. But you see they left us there. Wounded, and sick, and near to mad as can still walk and talk. Both sides left
us there while they 'negotiated the peace'. For a week. And we just kept dying. When they finally sent in Medships, he had about a hundred and
fifty left, and of our original platoon, just me.

She stands.

ZOE (cont'd)
Mercy, forgiveness, trust... Those are things he left back there. What he has now is the ship, the ship and us on it. You get Kaylee through this and I think he'll do right by you. He won't kill unless he's got no other option.

SIMON
What if he tells you to kill me?

ZOE
I kill you.






So there are some deviations to the finished "product", but they are minimal (reading them, I was amazed at how exactly the actors stayed with their lines!) The Book-Inara scene obviously was planned all different though.

Anyways, this is nothing compared with the script that DonCoat got - with REAL staines and the comments of Adam. Thanks for sharing and congratulations! I can see, that it came to worthy hands!

Esther

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:08 AM

ZOID


DonCoat:

I think it's an excellent plan to place the script in a bank vault. If this whole thing winds up playing itself out like I foresee it happening, that script is going to wind up being worth 10 times the amount you paid. ...And even then, you probably won't want to sell it: Too much sentimental value. Your children or grandchildren might decide to sell it, however, in order to better secure their future. Wouldn't it be nice if our ancestors all left us something worth a couple x $10K?

But before you vault it:

1) Scan a digital copy of it and burn it to writeable media, preferably that with "dye formulations... such as phthalocyanine and azo" which "are more stable and last longer, 100 years or more, compared to 20 or 30 years for less stable dyes", and then only under ideal conditions (from http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html). When you store the media in your safe deposit box, be sure it stands on an edge, rather than on its face or back; this will add years to its readability.

2) Having a digital scan also means you can peruse the document at your discretion from any computer -- or any other JPEG-reading device, like current-gen MP3 players, compatible DVD players, cell phones, et cetera -- without having to put acids from your fingertips onto the actual paper document itself. This will save you trips to your bank to look at (and place your destructive fingertips on) your religious icon. ;)

3) Store the paper document itself in a ziploc bag (pressed as flat as possible before sealing to remove excess air) along with 2 or 3 of those adsorbent sachets of the sort one often finds in medicines and moisture-sensitive electronics packaging (Bayer aspirin products always have one in them, for example)(ETA: If I remember correctly, athletic shoes frequently have one or two in the box. SO, just do some shoe shopping before you go to the bank, cuz you really should replace the sachets every time you open the ziploc bag.) If you have a vacuum-sealing food storage device, this would be a good solution as well, though less user-friendly for opening, closing and later reopening and closing in a bank vault. Remember, the Dead Sea Scrolls survived as long as they did because they were stored in one of the driest environments on Earth...

If you want to get really correct in storing paper docs and digital media, go to the experts at the Library of Congress for their recommendations. Here's a good place to start:
http://www.loc.gov/preserv/careothr.html

Enjoy your treasure, and preserve it for future generations as well...



Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
...And if you ever get to the point where 'sharing' becomes more attractive than 'owning' this important piece of our history... Well, we'll all be here waiting for you to post some (meaning, 'all', heh-heh) copies of your scans in the BlueSun Room.

But I'm not rushing you. You paid for the right to some exclusivity. 'Someday' is a good enough answer for us...

P.P.S.
Don't have a scanner? Go to your neighborhood Kinko's, or use a digital camera on highest resolution (no 'digital zoom', though), just like "Bond... James Bond" would do. Ideally, you want a full-color scan, rather than a monochrome one from a fax-printer combo, because the pages are different colors, use of hilighters, etc.

P.P.P.S
If you ever do post scans of the doc on the Internet, be sure to use Photoshop, or a freebie like The GIMP to 'black out' the autographs with a digital editor. We know you've got 'em, and is there anyone who wants their 'payroll signature' posted on the InterSnare?
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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:48 AM

ARBAS


I'm by no means a collector but I'd love to own one of these scripts, in the meantime thanks for the description :)

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:03 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Shiny as a greased pig at the county fair! Be careful, there's usually a passel of kids chasin' the hog.

Thanks for sharing the details of your wonderful prize.



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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:23 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Well, I'm jealous as hell but also really pleased for you. I'm delighted this went to a browncoat and not just some random collector hedging his bets. Thanks a million for sharing your observations on the script - they make great reading! Any chance you could scan the pages mentioned and post the images in the blue sun room?




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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:54 AM

TVCHICK


Thanks so much for sharing that info! Interesting to see a little taste of behind the scenes stuff. :)

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And when you can't do that...
You find someone to carry you.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:20 AM

JTCOPPER


I am SO THRILLED to know that a browncoat won the Serenity script.

Thanks for sharing the juicy details!!

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:26 AM

TALLGRRL


Quote:

Originally posted by DonCoat:

Oh, one other observation: did you know the correct spelling is "Gorramn", with an n?
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I figured it would be, seeing as how the word is meant to be a new version of "God damned" or "Goddamn"--neither of which, last time I checked, are allowed on network TV. ("Damned"--yes. "Goddamned"--no.)
Sure would have been nice if FX had picked up Firefly and aired it at 10pm. Then we would have had all manner of grown-up stuff (like in "Rescue Me" and "Nip/Tuck") in the 'verse!
Ah, but one can only dream...

"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

By the way, getting that script? Sweeeeet!!!

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:08 AM

KAELE


I know you'll treasure it. But I'm sure you know how jealous all of us are that you have such a wonderful thing.

Lucky gorramn bastard.

;)

(No, really, thank you! What a special treat it was having you share those little secrets! Congrats on your wonderful purchase, DonCoat.)

~Kaele

Join the fight.
Become a part of the Browncoat Army.
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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:12 AM

REDHAIRGIRL


Thank you so much for sharing that. I almost feel like I got a chance to see it myself.

That was truly shiny.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:53 AM

FOLLOWMAL




DonCoat, are you aware you've been Whedonesqued?

Well, you have with attendant comments!

Here's the link:


http://whedonesque.com/

Third headline down.

Twofold congrats are in order.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:55 AM

PAINISSCARY


Congrats on the winning bid, and thanks for the report on the script notes. Great stuff!

BTW, those "metal bendy things" are called brads. Haven't a clue as to why.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:55 AM

PAINISSCARY


Congrats on the winning bid, and thanks for the report on the script notes. Great stuff!

BTW, those "metal bendy things" are called brads. Haven't a clue as to why.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:27 AM

METTASUTRA


You're very generous to share these notes--thank you!

What do you think of this alternate theory about Adam's last note: is it possible it refers to Jayne's thoughts about Mal? Might Adam have been reminding himself not to give the line too much hostility?

This is something I've wondered about Jayne and Mal--as portrayed by Adam, how well does Jayne regard the captain?

Just speculatin'. Cuz it's fun. Thanks again for the fodder!


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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:53 AM

DONCOAT


To all and sundry,

Thank you so much for all the kind remarks.

In earnest, I debated a long time before deciding to post anything about winning the auction. I thought it might stir up jealousy and ill feelings, especially if anyone else here at FFF was in the bidding.

But instead you have made me feel all Kayleed. Browncoats really are the best!

Here's a shout out to MakesUsMighty, my colleague and bestest Browncoat buddy, and the other two 'coats who had the fun of being present at the "grand opening" of the package from Adam. MuM was supportive about my going public, so you all owe him a nod.

Whew, now I feel like somebody should hand me an Oscar or something.

Zoid, thanks for the suggestions and advice. I'll have to see about getting some dessicant packs. I know that it's possible to "bake out" a used pack so it can do its job again. One question: would storing the script on its back be all right if there's nothing printed on the back? My safe deposit box won't hold it on edge, but I could get a different one if it's critical. Oh, and as to the value, I'm a bit skeptical. Take a look at the other TV show scripts on eBay; even rare ones sell for hugely less than I bid. Ultimately, the dollar value isn't what matters anyway.

FollowMal, thanks for the link to Whedonesque. That item was posted by James from California Browncoats, the folks who are running the auctions. Since I've "outed myself" I'm more than happy to see this thread linked from anywhere that's appropriate!


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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:03 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by MettaSutra:
What do you think of this alternate theory about Adam's last note: is it possible it refers to Jayne's thoughts about Mal? Might Adam have been reminding himself not to give the line too much hostility?

I thought about that. It's possible, of course, but I don't think so. It doesn't read like a direction (e.g. "remember to say this friendly-like") -- I don't see why that kind of comment would be so highly emphasized (exclamation, two underlines).

It looks to me like what I described it as -- Adam deciding that he really likes this Jayne guy.

Of course, only Adam knows (if he even remembers). If he should care to drop by and discuss it, I wouldn't try to stop him...


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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:06 AM

MSG


the next script is up an apparently current price is $710 ...sigh there is just no way my husband will let me get that

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2


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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:34 PM

REDHAIRGIRL


I feel your pain. There is no way my husband would go for it either. He's a fan. Just not the drooling wreck that I am. :-)

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:14 PM

MAKESUSMIGHTY


Aw! Shucks. Twern't nuttin.

Quote:

Here's a shout out to MakesUsMighty, my colleague and bestest Browncoat buddy, and the other two 'coats who had the fun of being present at the "grand opening" of the package from Adam. MuM was supportive about my going public, so you all owe him a nod.



Nothing but your generous "doin good works" self.

Thanks Again, for sharing the "grand opening" and for sharing with all the Browncoats in the verse.

Way, Way, Way beyond SHINY! ! ! ! !



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for:

We too have done the impossible and that makes us mighty too.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:18 PM

FFYING2


Thanks for sharing the notes with us; that was very thoughtful of you.

Quote:

Originally posted by DonCoat:
The script is a bit over 100 looseleaf pages held together with metal bendy tabs (not sure what those are called).



Just today, Jane Espenson in her blog said that for a spec script one sends in: "Use strong brass brads."
http://www.janeespenson.com/archives/00000171.php

Quote:

Originally posted by DonCoat:
Oh, one other observation: did you know the correct spelling is "Gorramn", with an n?



Unless the people who initially put the scripts online got it wrong ("Flyspy" said they were trying to be very careful about not introducing errors and not correcting existing errors), there is more than one correct spelling. As the question "Is 'gorram' Chinese?" has come up a bit, I added it to my Chinese Pinyinary FAQ ( http://fireflychinese.home.att.net/resources.html#faq) with all the uses in the scripts, here simplified:

- "gorramn" ["Serenity, Part 1"; "Serenity, Part 2"; "The Train Job"; "The Message"; Serenity movie]
- "gorram" ["Bushwhacked," "Ariel," "Heart of Gold," "Objects in Space"]

- "gorramn it" ["Jaynestown"]
- "gorram it" ["War Stories," "Trash"]
- "gorramit" ["Trash"]
- "gorramnit" [Serenity movie]
- "gorrammit" [Serenity movie]

- "I'll be gorramned" ["Jaynestown"]

- "I don't give a good gorram" ["War Stories," "Heart of Gold"]

Note that Joss himself seems to have written "gorramn" in the pilot and the movie but "gorram" in "Objects in Space."

Thanks again for sharing your bounty.

Ying

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:27 PM

LISSA37


Congratulations, DonCoat!!! I'm happy for you! That's pretty gorramn shiny!

Re: "gorramn" -- I never knew, for sure, how it was spelled, but I always assumed it had an "n". (Or does it? Based on the last post, I'm still not entirely sure... although it's hard to disagree with the real script of the pilot. I'd say that's pretty trustworthy.)



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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:20 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.


That is very gorramn shiny! You are one lucky browncoat.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:47 PM

RESE


Much happiness for you, DonCoat!

I can only imagine the shaking of the hands that opened that package when it arrived, and the silly grin on the face of our DonCoat!

Thanks for sharing it with us.


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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:47 PM

ZOID


DonCoat replied:
Quote:

Zoid, thanks for the suggestions and advice. I'll have to see about getting some dessicant packs. I know that it's possible to "bake out" a used pack so it can do its job again. One question: would storing the script on its back be all right if there's nothing printed on the back? My safe deposit box won't hold it on edge, but I could get a different one if it's critical. Oh, and as to the value, I'm a bit skeptical. Take a look at the other TV show scripts on eBay; even rare ones sell for hugely less than I bid. Ultimately, the dollar value isn't what matters anyway.

I would think storing the document flat would be preferable to on end. Dessicant packs should be small enough to fit in the ziploc (pressed flat to remove excess air) without touching the document itself; avoid lying them on top of the paper materials. I was only saying to store the archival DVD/CD +/- R/RW on its edge. Laying an optical media disk on its side shortens its life considerably, according to the experts.

As to the document's eventual worth:
Yeah, if all we ever get is 1/2 a season and one movie, you're probably right.

But, I've still got a very strong feeling that the old girl will fly again, and when she does -- barring hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. -- she is gonna soar like a leaf on the wind...

Just imagine if you'd been lucky enough to obtain an original shooting script complete with page changes of the original Star Wars, signed by the principal cast, writer and director.

That's where I think the Firefly franchise is heading, good Lord willing and incompetent studio execs don't totally muck it up...

One way or t'other, I'm sure it'll be a prized possession, and one that you'll want to properly preserve. If this discussion has made you seriously consider taking steps to do so, then I'd also advise you to search the Internet for expert advice -- or even *ulp!* pay one to preserve the document for you.

Just don't forget to scan the entire document into a digital format first!

That way you can enjoy it without having to touch (contaminate) it.

And once you've scanned it, burn it to an optical disk and vault at least one of those as well, like I said before. If I were doing it, I'd probably keep the document images on at least two hard drives (in PGP'd folders), at least two thumb drives stored in a fireproof lockbox, and at least two optical disks (likewise in the fireproof lockbox) around my house. That's what I do with my tax records, birth certs, marriage license/cert, USAF discharge papers, mortgage docs, etc.



Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
A fireproof lockbox of the sort I'm talking about -- large enough to hold Pendaflex hanging file folders and other assorted valuables -- runs c. $45 at Walmart. For example, search on: Sentry Fire-SafeĀ® Security File, or Honeywell .62 Cubic Ft Fire and Waterproof Safe at walmart.com. I've a couple of the Honeywell makes -- cuz their watertight -- stored in the basement, where I reckon the least exposure to heat would result in case of fire, least exposure to generalized Wrath Of God in case of tornado.

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