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Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:51 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Mornoin' everyone.

So yesterday was horrible. I'm stressed out, it was V Day and I was alone AGAIN, and I found out that I might not be going to D*Con. I'm so upset that I don't even know why I'm at work.

To avert from the last (and biggest problem right now) I wish to divulge why I hate Valentines Day.

I've gone out of my way since the fifth grade for someone and never have received anything in return. Even during my engagement it seemed like there was always some BS in the way.

I feel real bad because I was a total grinch yesterday and should strap on my ass kissin' boots for those closest to me. I just feel so shitty on the 14th every year that I mostly disappear or work myself to exhaution. One year I actually slept the whole day (aside from eating a sandwich and using the bathroom). There is seriously something wrong with me and it really presents itself on that day. I just felt so ugly yesterday and the effects linger for at least three days.

Here it is. I've told no one of this yet, but I more than likely will this evening.
I've come to terms with the fact that I'll never marry, have kids, or even fall in love again. It might sound asinine for me to say this, but I believe it. Just because I've accepted it doesn't make the fact any easier. There is something missing, some key component that I can't seem to find to quell that feeling. I feel like an addict in long term recovery that can't find the pieces they'd lost long ago.

I don't honestly know what else to say or feel right now. I'm getting back to work.



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Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:57 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Yup in the Middle Ages it was seen as normal for a woman to enjoy sex...then King James and a variety of popes came along and "poof" sex was for procreation, women weren't meant to enjoy it, etc.


"Christianity gave Eros poison to drink. He did not die, but decended to vice."

I might not be remembering it exactly right, but that's the gist.


*edit* WHOAH, NVG that's... that's... That's not an okay way to feel! Which sounds like a totally weak thing to say, but it's all I got.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:01 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Yup in the Middle Ages it was seen as normal for a woman to enjoy sex...then King James and a variety of popes came along and "poof" sex was for procreation, women weren't meant to enjoy it, etc..

Also King James is the one who "edited" the bible to include the phrase thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. It wasn't there before...kinda makes you wonder what kind of mom he had, doesn't it??




poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.

Gods are great. But the heart is greater, for it is from the heart they come, and to the heart they shall return.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:17 AM

RUGBUG


Big Hugs to NVG!

Valentine's can be a great holiday if you're with the right person. It can also be pretty crappy if you're with the wrong person or you have high expectations. It sounds like you place a lot of value in the day and those around you don't recognize it. Do they know how much it means to you? Even friends can tell you how much they love and appreciate having you in their lives....

As for never getting married, etc. We all go through stages like that. I'm further along in life and am currently feeling the same way. I think I will be alone forever. Most of the time I'm fine with that. Ocassionally I get sad thinking that I am going to be wrinkled, alone and too old to do what makes me happy...which is ride. I'm fine being alone now when my life is so full, but what happens when I'm 70 and life is about sitting around all day?

And then I get realistic with myself. What exactly am I doing to get me to where I want to be? Sitting around waiting for Nathan to knock on my door just isn't going to get me what I want. () Yeah, I tried the internet (not to get Nathan, mind you. I'm a silent myspace Nathan stalker ), but in a half-assed way. There were plenty of date options, but I was pretty unenthusiastic about all but one. I think you guys heard how that turned out. I get all down and out about not being attractive and no one would want me and I'm going to die alone, but really it's just me. I'm living the life that was modelled by my mother and inadvertently brought up to live (single, independent woman). If I don't make some changes to MY mindset, I will live that life to the end. It's about ME not them.

So I say, broaden your horizons, make some drastic changes, actively seek out what you want and it will come to you. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but you will get there.

Edited to say: Eek, my post is all 'you can do it' obnoxiousness. Please don't think I'm dismissing your feelings: They're completely valid. I think I got a little "me, too!" and got carried away with the 'whys' of where I'm at....Bad Rugbug.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:24 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:30 AM

MSG


NV- This may sounds odd, but you need to move. Not permanently, just for a year or so. Get out of that place and find something free and joyous. You have been tied to so much responsibility and stress for so long you have given all you had. It's the equivalent to sharing a scuba tank and you keep giving up your share of the oxygen to anyone else who seems to need it. You never keep any for yourself and now you're dying... Get away and go somewhere with nothing to hold you or drag you down. Find some people that don't want anything from you and make friends. Spend a year doing for yourself, NOT for anyone else. Be selfish. Eat what you want, go where you want, date women who treat you well and kindly. Feel appreciated by co-workers and others. Then , after that year, decide if you want to move back. WE LOVE YOU!

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs



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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:32 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:35 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it



King James the first of England and sixth of Scotland was about as straight as a shoelace.

Gods are great. But the heart is greater, for it is from the heart they come, and to the heart they shall return.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:36 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it




"poof" is british slang for a gay man (is it just men or does it apply to women as well?)

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:36 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
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Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it



King James the first of England and sixth of Scotland was about as straight as a shoelace.

but his court full of pouting young men might have been popular with some members of this site xD

Gods are great. But the heart is greater, for it is from the heart they come, and to the heart they shall return.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:38 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
So I say, broaden your horizons, make some drastic changes, actively seek out what you want and it will come to you. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but you will get there.



NV, when I read your post, I couldn't help but think of what Rugbug has just said out loud. Broaden your horizons, make some drastic changes. I have come to think of you living in a small community - have you thought of moving to Reno? Meeting people not normally in your current sphere?

EDIT: msg posted while I was typing this - with nearly the same thought.

Sometimes, a leap of faith is necessary to move forward. Had I not taken the leap of faith I did a while ago, I would be divorced right now.
Take it on faith that someday, somehow, it will happen for you.




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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:39 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it




"poof" is british slang for a gay man (is it just men or does it apply to women as well?)




just men.

it's odd though, in scotland it doesn't always have alot to do with sexuality, the tea i drink at work, for example (depends, but generally lady grey) is generally described as 'Sam's poofy tea' by everyone but me, and i'm fairly sure the tea hasn't been having it off with the teabags behind the back of the closet coffee...

Gods are great. But the heart is greater, for it is from the heart they come, and to the heart they shall return.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:47 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it



Lesson 1) Puff: Noun. 1. A male homosexual.

Lesson 2) It was said of him in the streets, "Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen"


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:48 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
poof is an interesting choice of word to use in context of king james.


God I luv British humor!


I don't get it


"poof" is british slang for a gay man


it's odd though, in scotland it doesn't always have alot to do with sexuality, the tea i drink at work, for example (depends, but generally lady grey) is generally described as 'Sam's poofy tea' by everyone but me, and i'm fairly sure the tea hasn't been having it off with the teabags behind the back of the closet coffee...


Ooooooh, I learned something new today!
Sounds like it's used much the same way as 'fag' is here. If some low-brow thinks something is 'girly' (like lady grey tea) they might call it 'faggy' and it's also a rather degrading term for a gay man. It's one of those words that is really really insulting if you use it and aren't one yourself.
(I do know that fag means cigarette in europe, though! Ain't language grand?)


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:48 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:

just men.

it's odd though, in scotland it doesn't always have alot to do with sexuality, the tea i drink at work, for example (depends, but generally lady grey) is generally described as 'Sam's poofy tea' by everyone but me, and i'm fairly sure the tea hasn't been having it off with the teabags behind the back of the closet coffee...




'Tis that way here as well. Things that are perceived as feminine, but being used by men are 'queer' or whatever the term of the day is (some are pretty harsh and I have a hard time even typing them). The metrosexual guys are often labelled "gay" because they do/use things that are perceived as female behaviours/traits.

But, there are no corresponding terms for masculine articles in use by women. Guess women have a LOT broader definitions for what is acceptably "heterosexual" behaviour. It's not until we start wearing comfortable shoes WITH boxy t-shirts and a flannel and cut our hair into a mullet that people start thinking of you as a lesbian (whether you are or not). Lipstick lesbians keep everybody guessing.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:52 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
there are no corresponding terms for masculine articles in use by women. It's not until we start wearing comfortable shoes WITH boxy t-shirts and a flannel and cut our hair into a mullet that people start thinking of you as a lesbian


That's not true. It can be a lot less extreme than what you're talking about and still be considered 'dykey' by many. Short hair (especially with a T-shirt) or being mechanical or a hard drinker or a sports fan etc etc etc... And of course the love of comfy shoes. My dad once told me I had dyke shoes. There's a reason he was the last person I came out to.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:54 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


well, poof isn't generally all that offensive, most of the gay blokes i know happily use it to describe themselves, and don't take umbrage at it being used around them.

but yep, i think we've gotten over the pan-atlantic confusion and we're all working off about the same hymn sheet ^^

hadn't heard that one JQ, it's rather fitting though xD

Gods are great. But the heart is greater, for it is from the heart they come, and to the heart they shall return.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:00 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
well, poof isn't generally all that offensive, most of the gay blokes i know happily use it to describe themselves, and don't take umbrage at it being used around them.


Big difference is that they would take umbrage here. There's a lot of reasons for it (the violence directed at gay men might be a big part of it, just maybe) but they definitely use it themselves. I remember laughing soooo hard once when this gay guy I knew was teaching my gay (then) step-brother how to walk in heels and he was going "Swing your hips a little. Hold your head up. Now hold your arms like this. No, like this. Just be a fag!" and they were both grinning like idiots. But if someone else had said it, I think they would have gotten glared at.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:04 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
hadn't heard that one JQ, it's rather fitting though xD


Wikipedia is the source of course. And say, I'm sorry about the "Brit" reference. I tend to file things (and people) under the general heading of "UK" and then forget to attach the appropriate subheadings as needed. I even did it to DTH once. (By "did it" of course I don't mean did "it". Which is not to say I'm a poof either but...goodness this gets complicated.)

Oh, and PR, you didn't mention lumberjack shirts. And I've seen (at least some of) your shoes and I'd have to say they're not "dikey". "Clubby" maybe, but not dikey. Unless Clubbing and Cruising are interchangeable these days. It's hard to keep up. (really, no pun there, unless you're pervy)


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:07 AM

MSG


Yeah I think most slurs ( be they racial or otherwise) are all about the delivery, the intent, and the person who says them.

PR- speaking of coming out you should read Neil Patrick Harris's press release... basic gist is " I don't know where these ugly rumors that I am straight are coming from. Let me assure my public that I am definitely gay. I hope this puts and end to the rumors." Made me laugh:)

British slang...took me about 20 minutes the other day to explain the whole fries/chips/crisps thing to someone. Still not sure they get it:)
It really doesn't seem that hard
American fries=British chips
American chips=British crisps
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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:11 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
British slang...took me about 20 minutes the other day to explain the whole fries/chips/crisps thing to someone. Still not sure they get it:)


Maybe because I'm from the Automotive Capital of the Earth that was, but my personal favorite has always been the bonnet/hood confusion. But it's darn neat they have parallel etymologies.


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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:15 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
there are no corresponding terms for masculine articles in use by women. It's not until we start wearing comfortable shoes WITH boxy t-shirts and a flannel and cut our hair into a mullet that people start thinking of you as a lesbian


That's not true. It can be a lot less extreme than what you're talking about and still be considered 'dykey' by many. Short hair (especially with a T-shirt) or being mechanical or a hard drinker or a sports fan etc etc etc... And of course the love of comfy shoes. My dad once told me I had dyke shoes. There's a reason he was the last person I came out to.




Okay, so maybe not "no corresponding terms", but certainly very few. Or maybe I'm just not that educated in that area. How often do you hear "dykey?" You even had to put it into quotes. Even the number of different terms for gay men is astounding. For women there's, what, dyke and lesbo?

For example: A nicely dressed (defined as sort of stylish, but could just be nice fitting jeans and a little t-shirt) woman at the sports bar pounding beer and cheering on her favorite team...does she get called a dyke? Nope. She gets plenty of male attention and probably more than a few of them want to take her home.

Nicely/stylishly dressed guy in a tea house, sipping his favorite blend (do they blend teas, I really don't know ) is 'faggy, queer, homo, limp wristed', etc.

The labels are much more present and readily applied to men.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:20 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
And I've seen (at least some of) your shoes and I'd have to say they're not "dikey". "Clubby" maybe, but not dikey.


You've only seen my star shoes and my dominatrix boots. Those are not, by any stretch of the imagination, my every day shoes.

My current 'every day' shoes:



And these are considerably nicer than the shoes I had when I was 16. I've always gone for the more square shoe because I have square feet. They're also fairly wide for their size. And I like comfy shoes.
Even the 'clubbing' shoes are big and round in the toe.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:41 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
For example: A nicely dressed (defined as sort of stylish, but could just be nice fitting jeans and a little t-shirt) woman at the sports bar pounding beer and cheering on her favorite team...does she get called a dyke? Nope. She gets plenty of male attention and probably more than a few of them want to take her home.

Nicely/stylishly dressed guy in a tea house, sipping his favorite blend (do they blend teas, I really don't know ) is 'faggy, queer, homo, limp wristed', etc.

The labels are much more present and readily applied to men.


Maybe because the fear of retribution is greatly reduced on the one side than the other?

I mean who would you rather be hit by?


Or in the imponderable vein, who would you rather be hit on by?


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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:48 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
You've only seen my star shoes and my dominatrix boots. Those are not, by any stretch of the imagination, my every day shoes.


These say "Dyke"? Maybe because of living and working in Ann Arbor for the last 30 years, they say comfortable to me. Comfortable says "dyke"? I must be completely out of touch with those what slur. Of course, being dykey doesn't make anyone my enemy anyway. *shrugs* Never liked labels.
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
You've only seen my star shoes and my dominatrix boots.


Boy, my Mistress, if that were taken out of context...!


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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:48 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Yeah I think most slurs ( be they racial or otherwise) are all about the delivery, the intent, and the person who says them.

PR- speaking of coming out you should read Neil Patrick Harris's press release... basic gist is " I don't know where these ugly rumors that I am straight are coming from. Let me assure my public that I am definitely gay. I hope this puts and end to the rumors." Made me laugh:)


I hadn't even heard that. Sorta funny given most of the recent roles I've seen him in. Like How I Met Your Mother and Harold and Kumar.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:59 AM

MSG


I know he's finally broken the gay men can't play straight horney guys thing...which is nice:)

PR- those look comfy:) Luckily ( well ok I think this is lucky, misterG just thinks it's kind of scary/sad) I destroyed/damaged all the nerves in my feet so I can wear lots of major heels with now problems...which is why my shoes look like this


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Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:00 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Oh man, I feel better. As for who'd I rather be hit by, I'd say Rosie. Just for the sheer fact I could take it like a man and not laugh. That is simply ego destroying for a fella who wishes to lash out and inflict pain.

Possibly alot of the feelings I've had in the past few days are me trying not to return to the codependant self I'm so used to. I do and do and really don't wish for acknowledgement, but I really coulda used some yesterday.
And rugbug, you are right to say what you said. I actually have been doing that, but I was in fear of the fact I might be stepping back into the door mat role. That actually scared me. I like meeting new people and its been happening alot in the last few months. There is really no reason to run. I just need to stay on track and finish what I started.

I feel so much better. Thanks everyone. I'm out to lunch.



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Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:17 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Glad you are feeling better, NV.

msg, I have those same shoes in black but by Stuart Weitzman and a round toe. They are my very favorite Mary Jane heels.


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Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:20 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
msg, I have those same shoes in black but by Stuart Weitzman and a round toe. They are my very favorite Mary Jane heels.


Okay for those of us without the shoe fetishes, what's a Mary Jane heel?


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Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:23 AM

RUGBUG


I keep trying to delete my double-posty goodness, but the board goes bye-bye. If it doesn't work this time, I'm done.

(P.S. My grandma used to tell me I wore 'man shoes.' )

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:25 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Luckily ( well ok I think this is lucky, misterG just thinks it's kind of scary/sad) I destroyed/damaged all the nerves in my feet so I can wear lots of major heels with now problems...which is why my shoes look like this


But do your feet look like this? "no problems" might be a really relative concept...



"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:32 PM

MSG


Ok mine aren't that bad Jonny:) In fact mine are cute enough to wear sandals:) I'd guess those feet belong to a dancer who danced until about age 30-32 Sadly I only danced until age 19. So mine aren't so hashed( yes I said sadly as I'd gladly trade prettier feet for the dance career I was supposed to have)

A Mary Jane shoe is one with a strap running across the upper bridge of the foot
examples




and wikipedia says
Mary Jane is an American term for a kind of strap shoe that typically have low heels, rounded closed toes, and a buckled strap across the instep. They are often made of black patent leather, although some current incarnations can be in a wide array of colors and are also made of canvas or suede.

Traditionally Mary Janes are a variety of shoe worn mainly by girls, but historically have been worn by boys as well. In modern times they are worn by women of all ages, however, while Mary Janes may be considered formal for girls, they are considered informal when worn by women

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:40 PM

RHYIANAN


I'm a bit late here, but in the vein of lying back and thinking of England, you might want to read this:

http://www.sex-doc.org/index.html?BodyURL=ZXQ/instructions-and-advice.
html


It's a little scary that people actually believed that stuff.


I'm a leaf on the wind

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:41 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


If that's what heels and nail polish does to a fella then I'm definately not tryin'
them.
Besides, what company makes a mens size 16 stilletto?




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Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:44 PM

MSG


That is truly the scariest thing I have ever read...and that includes any horror novels or other material.

NV- that's not from shoes silly that's from toeshoes:) 'Sides I think you'd look cute in some nice red slingbacks:)

OK folks I'm out for the day. It's extra long tutoring tonight:)

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:52 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Can't stay, have to fly, but I had to say two things.

First - I can't believe no one has mentioned The Operative in 'Kinky Boots' yet!!!



Second - NVG, a soul like yours is not meant to walk through this life unloved. She's out there. Don't worry. You'll find her. Stay happy, okay? And I echo everyone else on the explore and enjoy and have fun and stuff. Going somewhere else might be a good idea for a while. You have a lot of history where you are. Every now and then you need to break free and just be someone else for a bit. I know, I know, says the girl who's barely set foot outside Dublin, but it's still true!

I'd invite you over to find me, but I think my tendancy to spread happiness and joy among the male posters is making Jonny strangely grouchy...




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Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:07 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I'm out too folks. Thanks for the support of my usual monthly whine. I'll be sure to return tomorrow with some kinda good news and possibly even snacks.
Okay, I'll be eating the snacks but you get the picture.
(And yes DTH, I'm gonna hafta play as someone else soon if I hope to keep sane)
G'night.



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Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:47 PM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
I'm a bit late here, but in the vein of lying back and thinking of England, you might want to read this:

http://www.sex-doc.org/index.html?BodyURL=ZXQ/instructions-and-advice.
html


It's a little scary that people actually believed that stuff.


Am I missing something here? I didn't see anything amiss...any more than this gem:

http://j-walk.com/other/goodwife/index.htm

Snopes doesn't discount either one.


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:01 PM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
I'd invite you over to find me, but I think my tendancy to spread happiness and joy among the male posters is making Jonny strangely grouchy...


Welllll, if it'll help NVG, I'll try to set that aside. Far be from me to stand in the way of true lust...er, whatever we're talking about.

And NVG? Size 16? Say no more:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000M930O2/ref=dp_image_text_0
_0/103-3752569-2525462?ie=UTF8&m=A3M41JOXRPBFB3&s=apparel&img=0&color%5Fname=default





"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:30 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Okay, so maybe not "no corresponding terms", but certainly very few. Or maybe I'm just not that educated in that area. How often do you hear "dykey?" You even had to put it into quotes.


Yeeeah, I also put 'faggy' in quotes.
How often do I hear it? Well, not so much anymore, but I used to hear it a lot. High school and a father who didn't realize how insulting he was being.
As for the comparison of a well dressed woman slamming down beers and the men wanting to take her home... Yeah, but I'd probably want to take a well-dressed tea-drinking man home. And if the beer swilling sportsfan woman didn't go home with anyone, what do you think they would say about her? I imagine the term 'rugmuncher' would come up.
It's probably not a prejudice you've come up against much. I have.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Friday, February 16, 2007 12:00 AM

HOBBLEIT


hi there,
My brother found this game. We find it really addictive

http://www.addictinggames.com/kittencannon.html

If you like cats and are offended, sorry.

******************************

http://www.myspace.com/muddy_waters

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Friday, February 16, 2007 1:11 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
I'd invite you over to find me, but I think my tendancy to spread happiness and joy among the male posters is making Jonny strangely grouchy...


Welllll, if it'll help NVG, I'll try to set that aside. Far be from me to stand in the way of true lust...er, whatever we're talking about.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000M930O2/ref=dp_image_text_0
_0/103-3752569-2525462?ie=UTF8&m=A3M41JOXRPBFB3&s=apparel&img=0&color%5Fname=default





*running after NVG*

Come back!!! Come back!!! Jonny said it's okay!!!




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Friday, February 16, 2007 2:04 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Hobbleit, that kitten cannon is great! Somehow I bounced him 870 feet - but it wouldn't let me submit my high score.

EDIT: Somehow Tidbit managed to launch that cat 1,130 feet. He inherited his video game gene from his Dad!

Thanks for the link!

And Good Morning, everyone! Coffee time. Going in to work a little late this AM.


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Friday, February 16, 2007 2:48 AM

PENGUIN


Good morning!

T.G.I.F.!!!!




King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Friday, February 16, 2007 4:50 AM

MSG


Oh yes yes yes Penguin TGIF! Oh hey and the Ghostrider movie comes out today, which I will be seeing with Mr.G and smiling as I think of our own ghostrider.

Jonny- as I have seen some actual 50's magazine good housewife guides, I'd say that seems accurate in content from the 40-50's creepy huh?

Morning all:)

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Friday, February 16, 2007 4:55 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Did someone mention addictive games?

Intending offense to none (that's gonna be a hard sell), may I present:

http://www.2playfreeonlinegames.com/game/1223/Yeti--Sports-Penguin-Sma
sh.html


http://www.2playfreeonlinegames.com/game/1224/Extreme-Bloody-Yeti--Spo
rts.html


http://www.2playfreeonlinegames.com/game/1216/Yeti-Sports-2-Penguin-Da
rtboard.html


http://www.2playfreeonlinegames.com/game/1225/Yeti-Sports-Penguin-Boun
ce.html


And the especially offensive (at least to some):

http://www.2playfreeonlinegames.com/game/1207/Boneless-Girl-Free-Fall.
html


Penguin, if you thought your head was spinning in the other thread....


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Friday, February 16, 2007 5:05 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' water bretheren, may you never thirst.

Happy Friday all !!!

Silly gov't, not letting me play the fun little games you all get to play. :\

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
I get all down and out about not being attractive and no one would want me and I'm going to die alone,

-snip-

If I don't make some changes to MY mindset,



Start with that one. Even if you don't think you are attractive (which in your case I think you are horribly wrong and must be on something), the way you think about yourself does make a difference.
(jimi's cliche phrase of the day coming up)
If you don't like yourself, how can you expect others to like you?

~jimi
SFC Alexander, Chief Medic for the 76th Indepentent Army Battalion


In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry and is widely considered as a bad move.

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Friday, February 16, 2007 5:54 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


*snicker* extreme bloody Yeti *snicker*

Good cliche

Hi there water drinkers !

RugBug- what he said !

NV - *hugs* You were NOT meant to be alone. There is just too much good in your heart to be shared ,for that to ever happen.
I agree that you need to go someplace else and get away.You give of yourself so much that I think you're getting burnt out.
A vacation is definately in order !

Bryce
***********


Throw your dreams into space like a kite, and you do not know what it will bring back; a new life, a new friend, a new love, a new country. -Anais Nin

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Friday, February 16, 2007 5:56 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
http://www.2playfreeonlinegames.com/game/1207/Boneless-Girl-Free-Fall.
html


I prefer 'Falling Bush' myself. Same concept, except done with Dubya in a cheap suit. It's fun to shake him around like a rag doll!
http://www.addictinggames.com/fallingbush.html
It's also incredibly wonderful to just watch whilst listening to 'Crownless' by Nightwish. Fits perfectly.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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