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Why is that a blooper? Couldn't she have curled it in between the two?

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She could have curled it but in the 'Message' commentary they mention that she finally had her hair straightened. Does it look like naturally curly hair in HoG and OiS?

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Originally posted by wydraz:
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Jayne's hat first has hay in it, later it seems he's cleaned it up, but some hay reappears again in one scene while he's in the cargo bay.

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Does Jayne say something about River being a "mind reading genius" in The Message? It was my understanding that Jayne didn't find out about River unti OiS.

I think the line is "Girl's a mind reading genius but she can't figure out how to eat an ice planet."

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Originally posted by FlyinFree:

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Does Jayne say something about River being a "mind reading genius" in The Message? It was my understanding that Jayne didn't find out about River unti OiS.

I think the line is "Girl's a mind reading genius but she can't figure out how to eat an ice planet."

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Objects in Space was supposed to be BEFORE Trash, The Message & Heart of Gold. Joss, for his own reasons, wanted it moved to the end and even refilmed one scene to try to make it fit, but all the references to River in the 4 episodes are completely out of whack if OiS is put last and since the refilmed scene OiS doesn't fit anywhere now. I LOVE Firefly but what Joss did with OiS bugs the shit out of me!

"...we're still flyin'."
"That's not much."
"It's enough." Malcolm Reynolds and Simon Tam - Serenity

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Originally posted by Okkay:
Speaking of bloopers, a couple I noticed:

In Trash, when Wash is doing his "WHAT'S SHE DOING ON THIS SHIP?!" thing, you can see Kaylee/Jewel start cracking up. Probably wasn't done on purpose.

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Originally posted by Okkay:
In Trash, when Wash is doing his "WHAT'S SHE DOING ON THIS SHIP?!" thing, you can see Kaylee/Jewel start cracking up. Probably wasn't done on purpose.

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The other one is in Out of Gas, with the ship-wide "Life Support Failure" warning being repeated in Cantonese, rather than Mandarin. Unless Serenity was built and meant to be used in an area which was predominantly Cantonese, this wouldn't make sense.

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Originally posted by Thalos:
Also, IMHO, Jayne calling River a "genius mind reader" in "The Message" is reasonable since it is common knowledge that she is a genius and even Jayne has figured out by now that she is intuative.

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The the blooper is in "Objects in Space" when Jayne appears so surprised "you mean she really reads minds?!?! I don't like the idea of people knowin' what I'm thinking!"

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
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Originally posted by IamJacksUsername:
Also, I recently saw Lost in translation with several visible booms. If filmmakers don't have a cgi budget, can't they just edit the shot - maybe cut off the top end and slightly stretch it, or shift the whole visible area down?

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several visible booms

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Actually, the problem would not have been with the film, but with your projectionist.

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Originally posted by Chronos:
I noticed in Safe, Should say water. If they drank milk, you could just link some tubes from their udders to the mouth.

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Originally posted by kalimeeri:
Anybody notice the car (I think) driving left to right across the very back of the screen in War Stories, when Jayne and Book and Zoe notice the burn pattern?

Jen dao mei.

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Originally posted by Chronos:
I noticed in Safe, when Mal is trying to sell the cows and the buyer complains they haven't been fed properly, Mal says he'd been feeding them milk and hay three times a day. Well I don't think you feed milk to cows. Should say water. If they drank milk, you could just link some tubes from their udders to the mouth.

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Anybody notice the car (I think) driving left to right across the very back of the screen in War Stories, when Jayne and Book and Zoe notice the burn pattern?

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Originally posted by DeckRoid:
Um... about the hay in Jayne's hat...

The hat is first covered with shipping 'hay' from the box his Ma used as filler. The second time we see Jayne's hat covered with shipping 'hay' is when he is breaking down the crate, also filled with shipping 'hay'. If you notice, he is tearing the wood to tiny pieces and they shipping 'hay' is all about him.

I know this to be true because I have watched this episode many, many times. Of course, I could be wrong.

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Originally posted by Zoriah:
One that noone seems to have spotted:

In The Train Job there is a muslim lady in a burkha on the train. In the scene where everyone has to get off, you can see the veiled woman now carrying a baby in the background while Zoe and Mal are in the foreground.

Watch her, a jeep passes by her quite slowly and she doesn't notice and walks right into it, baby's head first !

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I saw that as well, but I figured it was not the true mule locomotion but instead an extra bit help to steady the mule and stop it at an exact spot, so that it was properly framed for the camera shot.

Interestingly, it only is visible in the bottom right hand corner when playing the DVD on my PowerBook. if I play the DVD on my TV, then that blooper in the corner is not visible (probably my cheap TV screen).

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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In the commentary for the Message, they talk about Inara finally getting straight hair. In Heart of Gold, she has curly hair.

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Actually, the problem would not have been with the film, but with your projectionist. There is a lot more information that is caught on a film than is intended to be seen. When a film is projected it's intended to be "framed" in such a way so you only see as much as the filmmaker intended. Just as if you were watching a film where the projectionist framed the film too tightly and cut of folk's heads.

Roger Ebert harps on this fairly regularly.

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Originally posted by Noocyte:
Actually, that stuff is not stars, but bits of debris which were blown out of the cargo bay when Mal snuffed the fire. Since Serenity had stopped accellerating, it was still moving with the ship. So, this is pretty much the opposite of a blooper; a subtle bit of continuity which shows admirable (though, as we've seen not infallible) attention to detail.


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Originally posted by soundhack:
I thought it was that too at first. But there's another problem. If the debris was 'blown out' of the cargo bay, wouldnt it still be moving outwards with respect to Serenity? It couldnt all of a sudden stop with respect to the ship, since there is no friction or any force stopping it.

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Originally posted by Noocyte:
Actually, that stuff is not stars, but bits of debris which were blown out of the cargo bay when Mal snuffed the fire. Since Serenity had stopped accellerating, it was still moving with the ship. So, this is pretty much the opposite of a blooper; a subtle bit of continuity which shows admirable (though, as we've seen not infallible) attention to detail.


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Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
Not exactly a blooper, but laughable:

Before the DVDs came out, one of my fave, most-remembered scenes was Shindig, Mal just stabbing Atherton for the sheer malice of it. But watching it on DVD a couple times, I eventually noticed that where they show Mal stabbing him ... two or three times ... it's SO obvious the blade isn't even breaking the fabric of Atherton's clothing. I don't need to see a lot of blood in my TV (though I HATE when people get stabbed/slashed and the blade comes out totally clean), but if you're gonna do a closeup of someone getting stabbed, rig the freakin' effect right ...

(or would this be the third time I've posted today and turned out to have remembered wrongly?)



"Bang."

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Originally posted by Thrawn:
And another problem - we see later in the episode that, just before Mal falls down to the floor of the cargo bay, the other ship is still there. The episode opens with a shot of Serenity with nothing anywhere nearby. The two exterior shots should take place at exactly the same moment in time, but they're very different.

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Originally posted by Jahzara:
In Heart of Gold, the shot when the girl who's betrayed Nandi lets Rance in, there is a HUGE TRUCK or TRAILER thing behind him. The first time I saw it I could not believe it. It's really hard to see 'cause it's really fast. I had to slow it down to see a glimpse of what it was.

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Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
Not exactly a blooper, but laughable:

Before the DVDs came out, one of my fave, most-remembered scenes was Shindig, Mal just stabbing Atherton for the sheer malice of it. But watching it on DVD a couple times, I eventually noticed that where they show Mal stabbing him ... two or three times ... it's SO obvious the blade isn't even breaking the fabric of Atherton's clothing. I don't need to see a lot of blood in my TV (though I HATE when people get stabbed/slashed and the blade comes out totally clean), but if you're gonna do a closeup of someone getting stabbed, rig the freakin' effect right ...

(or would this be the third time I've posted today and turned out to have remembered wrongly?)



"Bang."

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