Summer Glau's new show: Sarah Connor Chronicles by Gapsule

This week's episode was the best so far IMO! Not so many glaring errors and finally some INTRIGUE.

My only nitpick this week, as someone over at Whedonesque also noted: a mother with Type O blood can't have a kid with Type AB. So, either Sarah is not Jon's mother, or they didn't fact-check. Given the history, I'm betting lack of fact-check. They could have gotten away with just saying, "Sarah, you're the wrong bloodtype. Hey, let's test Jon!"

The homages to the real Terminator films were nice and not generally overdone. The rubber-skinned Terminator was a GREAT touch. "There's a storm coming" was pushing it.

Still, by far their best effort. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:05 AM

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TSCC is the same way... I am enjoying it. Summer being one of the few things that isn't a problem with the show. But I am mostly disappointed... because it COULD be great, and I am hoping it still can be). But they started out with so many plot holes and bad writing and messing up cannon.. only to finally show a glimmer of promise here or there.. but then to only drop the ball again.

Oh well.. it IS only the 5th episode... I still have hope it can get better, if it doesn't get cancelled before then.

Pretty much agree with this, I like the show more than T3 but not as much as T2, I think there's a lot of potential that isn't being taken advantage of. Again it's early though, there's been plenty of shows where the first season falls considerably short of the later developments, I just hope that it gets the chance to develop and actually succeeds in developing itself.

While I'm on the topic, my prediction for the season or at least the next few eps, Cameron will begin acting erratically and disobeying orders, paranoia will grow (fueled by uncle Reese), until there is either a complete break (Cameron gets kicked out) or a near complete break (no one trusts her anymore). In the season finale (or possibly at the end of this particular sub-arc if it isn't the main season arc) Cameron will demonstrate that what she was doing is part of her mission from Future John and beneficial to the cause and she will be accepted back into the fold.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:21 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by Muggi:
This week's episode was the best so far IMO! Not so many glaring errors and finally some INTRIGUE.

100% agree. This one was by far the best. It had a lot of action and some intrigue to it. I was horrible at following who was who in the future. I thought they could have done better at choosing some actors who looked different from each other enough that the audience could tell who was who.

I'm guessing everyone else is assuming the music in the basement of that place had something to do with cameron. My guess is she has some mind reading abilities or something. The Reese guy probably feels responsible for their base being stormed because Cameron got the info out of him.

Does it seem like Cameron is gathering up parts for potential repairs or upgrades? I just don't get why she would torch the other terminator if that was the case. At least her mission has me somewhat interested.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:10 AM

I'm a LITTLE scared by the preview of next's week show..it says Cameron starts taking ballet lessons to track down someone they're looking for...

If they do it well, it will be a nice use of their actor's skills, but it could get crowbarred for just the same reason.

lil scared. Just have to wait and see.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Muggi:

This week's episode was the best so far IMO! Not so many glaring errors and finally some INTRIGUE.

Agreed. This was the first episode that, from time to time, I was actually caught up in.

The twerp, other than looking whiney a lot, contributed nothing. And Sarah was her usual unpleasant self again. But the rubber-skinned Terminator was, indeed, a great touch. And I liked the underground tunnel stuff somehow, as well as the glimpe we got into the development of the time-machine thingy. And Summer acted great again. Also, though I freely admit to not fully 'getting' the music, it was intriguing nonetheless.

Who knows, with the strike being over, perhaps they can now gather enough writers to turn this thing around. It really doesn't have to be doomed. After all, there's no fate but what we make for ourselves. :)

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:50 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
At least her mission has me somewhat interested.

To be honest Cameron is really the main reason why I'm watching still and I do mean Cameron not Summer (though I imagine most other actresses wouldn't play the part as well). To me the writing for Sarah and John has probably been the worst, both of them seem too far off of their T2 personas for me to really accept them and the differences aren't improvements. Cameron on the other hand has lots of interesting unanswered questions and behaves like she should. I too am very interested in finding out her mission parameters and seeing the development of her character.

As a side note, am I the only one who decided to buy the Ultimate Edition DVD of T2 because of TSCC? I can't wait to see the 18(?) extra minutes of footage from T2.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:53 PM

NOX

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I find it highly illogical for those who didn't discover the 'verse until the movie to be criticizing those of us who did watch the series when it was originally on the air. Where were you then? We may be able to lay the blame on the FOX execs who didn't give it a good timeslot, refused to air the pilot first, altered the order of the other episodes, and generally under-promoted the show. However, it is people like you who were not watching it that caused its cancellation, not those of us who were watching and trying desperately to get the attention of others.

Just like to say, Im 19, and English. I have sci-fi channel now, but I didn't at the time. I am not allowed to criticise you on anything because I couldn't find out about firefly until after serenity? Im sorry but that sounds so elitist that my brain might fall out. Yes I realise this is my first post here, I have been lurking waiting for a situation where I could actually provide a relevant response.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:28 PM

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Originally posted by Nox:

I am not allowed to criticise you on anything because I couldn't find out about firefly until after serenity?

They say never to criticize someone 'fore you walked a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them... you're a mile away! :)

Seriously, though, didn't say 'not allowed'; said 'illogical'. Telling veteran Browncoats they haven't done enough would be like me faulting Einstein for not having licked quantum mechanics yet: it's not that I'm not allowed to say it, but I would certainly look silly doing so, as the man already left his marks in the field, whereas I have not at all.

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I'm sorry but that sounds so elitist that my brain might fall out.

Like the Capissen 38 engine, these things happen. :) But here's a flat fact: the Impossible was Done by the Fandom-That-Was, not by the Fandom-That-Wasn't. Can't say as I feel a need to blame the latter for their absence; but sure as I know anything, I know this: I won't blame the former for their presence!

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I have been lurking waiting for a situation where I could actually provide a relevant response.

The 'Verse offers second chances. :)

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:34 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I was directing my comments to TheMarked, who was criticizing Browncoats for not having done enough to keep the show on the air or get it picked up by another network. Obviously, if you were not aware of the show at the time it originally aired there was nothing you could have done about it. Just don't trash those of us who did try what we thought were the right things only to fall short. That would be as silly as blaming Joss Whedon for not doing enough simply because he couldn't get another network interested in the series.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 8:13 AM

FIDSAH

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I find it highly illogical for those who didn't discover the 'verse until the movie to be criticizing those of us who did watch the series when it was originally on the air. Where were you then? We may be able to lay the blame on the FOX execs who didn't give it a good timeslot, refused to air the pilot first, altered the order of the other episodes, and generally under-promoted the show. However, it is people like you who were not watching it that caused its cancellation, not those of us who were watching and trying desperately to get the attention of others.

You know, I don't want to be a jerk or anything, but for the brief period of time this show was on the air, I was busy serving in the United States Marine Corps. I got out in 2004, and the next year, Serenity came out.

Serenity was the first time I was really able to get into the Firefly universe, and when I first saw it, I had no clue there was anything else to the story. But throughout watching it, I kept getting a nagging feeling that there was a lot more going on behind the scenes; references to things they don't explain, the way the characters and actors all worked great together. I later found out that there was a show, that had already been on the air, and got canceled.

So where was I then? I was defending your right to sit on your couch and watch TV.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 8:36 AM

MIRAMEL

Fid, i don't think anyone's criticizing the folks that weren't 'there' for whatever reason (i myself did not own a television in 2002... not as good a reason as yours!), we're simply pointing out that it's a little- i believe the word used was illogical?- for them to criticize the ones that were.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 2:03 PM

Yeah, guys, you're taking that statement the wrong way. It was directed at the guy above, who was basically saying people that DID watch the show on network should have done more to keep it going.

He wasn't implying that people that did NOT know of the show are somehow to blame.

And, thank you for your service.

And, hi to the U.K.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 2:30 PM

@all:

I do wish you'd listen! It's perfectly simple. If you didn't watch Firefly at the time, you don't have to be blamed. You simply watch it before lunch, after you've read the shooting script, when you've written your letter home, before rest, move your DVD into the player, greet the Big Damn Heroes, and report to Joss that you signed up as volunteer. :)

I hope it's clear now!

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:08 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Thanks to those who tried to explain what I was saying, and I still find it hard to believe others misinterpreted it or didn't realize I was specifically addressing a previous poster who was criticizing original Browncoats for not doing enough to save the show.

Fidsah, you are most definitely not a jerk, and your service to your country, and to all of us, is most appreciated. I hope you don't get any other kind of feedback about that from anyone.

Now, let's put this particular argument behind us and get back to the discussion of the show this thread is dedicated to, The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:21 PM

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Now, let's put this particular argument behind us and get back to the discussion of the show this thread is dedicated to, The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Perhaps a new thread to definitively leave behind the ugliness?

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Monday, February 25, 2008 12:12 AM

AGATSU

Now that that's settled, let's all get nekkid and have make-up sex.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 8:35 PM

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Now that that's settled, let's all get nekkid and have make-up sex.

Have to ask for a pic first but I might be game...

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:21 AM

Another winner last night. Good plot, the dancing was worked in well (a concern of mine), and not TOO many cheezy lines.

The "I'll always come for you" exchange was a bit of heavy-handed foreshadowing IMO.

Cameron leaving the Russians to die was a good twist. Fit the character perfectly.

I disliked their choice for Sarah's old doctor..such a radical change from the film guy, I had no clue who he was supposed to be until he started telling the story. Someone bald, thin and tall would have been better..also kinda getting tired of seeing Bruce Davison play Disturbed Doctor X in every freaking tv show.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:07 PM

ooooppss!!! double post.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:08 PM

I loved the 7th episode and the expression of Derek on the last scene.

It's really nice to see Summer dance. I think the writers are doing really well on the last stretch of the show. Less of the bad terminators and more on Cameron and flashbacks works well for me.

I just wait for the 2 hours finale of this show... They say it's a cliffhanger.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:42 PM

At day's end, we have a fair amount of episodes now, 'bout a third of them winners. :)

Nr. 7 weren't all that bad, either. Sarah and her ever sour demeanour still annoys me, but Summer was great again! And I loved the "hand delivery" pun on the envelope. :)

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:10 PM

CABOT

Here is a link to an interview via conference call with series creator Josh Friedman and actor Brian Austin Green, who portrays Derek Reese on the show.

If you have been following the news regarding this show most of the conversation will not be informative, but it is current having been posted 02/28/08 the same day the conversation took place.

http://www.movieweb.com/tv/news/56/26956.php

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Friday, February 29, 2008 3:32 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by Muggi:
[I disliked their choice for Sarah's old doctor..such a radical change from the film guy, I had no clue who he was supposed to be until he started telling the story. Someone bald, thin and tall would have been better..also kinda getting tired of seeing Bruce Davison play Disturbed Doctor X in every freaking tv show.

Earl Boen played Dr. Silberman in all 3 Terminator movies. His IMDB resume shows that he has not worked since 2006, and has nothing in the works. So either the producers didn't want him, or he didn't want to do it. A veteran of over 200 TV shows, I remembered Earl from a 1979 episode of Buck Rogers where he played a telepath who sold info obtained from reading people's minds to the highest bidder. I though his brief part in T3 was quite terrific.

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Saturday, March 1, 2008 2:01 PM

BLACKCATLADY

This isn't good news at all. According to this article, if the ratings aren't good after Monday night's 2 hour finale.......the show will be gone.

http://www.tv.yahoo.com/slideshow/229/photos/1

FOX is very unforgiving to new show's. Notice how NBC gave Chuck a chance? I sincerely hope Joss has better luck with 'Dollhouse'.

I enjoyed T:SCC and thought it was an excellent show. I am so damn sick of the reality shows and I will be sad to see this show go.....

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Saturday, March 1, 2008 3:14 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Originally posted by Muggi:
This week's episode was the best so far IMO! Not so many glaring errors and finally some INTRIGUE.

I agree, that was a great episode

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Monday, March 3, 2008 3:54 PM

Alright.. Since it would be a little bit longer before we get to see that finale.

I'd like to post a link to wondercon 2008. Hope you guys listen well.

here's the link:

enjoy...

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Monday, March 3, 2008 5:08 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

They damn well better give them some more episodes. It can't end like that!

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Monday, March 3, 2008 6:18 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I sent an email to FOX tonight shortly after the show ended, asking them to please renew it for another season. Usually all you can expect is a form letter reply, thanking you for your interest. This time it only took 11 minutes for someone there to reply that TSCC is still under consideration for renewal. I think as many people as possible should be emailing them or writing them snail mail letters letting them know we want more.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 8:24 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

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I sent an email to FOX tonight shortly after the show ended, asking them to please renew it for another season. Usually all you can expect is a form letter reply, thanking you for your interest. This time it only took 11 minutes for someone there to reply that TSCC is still under consideration for renewal. I think as many people as possible should be emailing them or writing them snail mail letters letting them know we want more.

It would be a kindness if you'd paste in the contact info about how to email the network , E-C !

Meanwhile , am rushing a thread to ALL BROWNCOATS !

Summer needs our help !

< http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=32875>

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 2:42 AM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Their email is askfox@fox.com

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 3:25 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Summer was really great last night. I thought the season finale was quite satisfying, and I definitely want to see more.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 11:43 AM

FARFLY

My favorite line so far...

Who's car is this?

It belongs to the guy I killed and stuffed in the trunk....

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 4:05 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Their email is askfox@fox.com

Much obliged...Thanks , E-C !

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 9:51 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

I especially liked the...

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massacre of the police state death squad. Good photography too. Very artsy for a massacre.

And don't waste time on silly birthdays or bad things can happen. Not bad advice.

New season? Or terminator dead. Game over man. Game over.

Had a touch of Joss, but without all that pesky humor.

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-Joss the Boss, Firefly DVD, censored Episode 1 "Serenity"

Firefly Music Video: Tangerine dream - Confrontation, Thief soundtrack
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The Summer Glau Chronicles: Free download of all episodes
http://www.fox.com/fod/player.htm?show=tscc

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:57 AM

ZEEK

eh it was OK. Derick needs to be a bit more careful about the space time continuum.

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So, did they pretty much cut Summer's job by blowing all the skin off of Cameron?

Fox Exec: "thanks for all your hard work but we're just gonna CGI cameron from now on" *hands over pink slip*

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Wednesday, March 5, 2008 6:57 AM

TANKOBITE

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Originally posted by Zeek:
eh it was OK. Derick needs to be a bit more careful about the space time continuum.

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So, did they pretty much cut Summer's job by blowing all the skin off of Cameron?

Fox Exec: "thanks for all your hard work but we're just gonna CGI cameron from now on" *hands over pink slip*

Yeah, I was wondering that too;

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Though I figure because she kept all that skin from the other robot they'll be able to rebuild her, but maybe as another actress... I mean, we know she isn't dead, just a simple car bomb; but the skin has to be gone unless somehow she magically got out her face far enough out of the car before it exploded.

I also thought the FBI raid with Johnny Cash was a great touch, but why did it spare Ellison? I can't think of a good reason, can you?

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Thursday, March 6, 2008 12:21 PM

ZEEK

Just spoilers from the last episode. I don't know anything about the future of the show.

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I don't have any idea either. The only thing I could think of is that it's not his mission and he didn't see Ellison as a direct threat.

Not a great explanation though since to him none of those FBI agents were a real threat. They weren't going to hurt him really just mess up his skin a bit.

Though I still don't give the writers much credit, it could be that Ellison plays a role in the creation of skynet and Cromartie scanned his face and got a message not to mess with him. That would be the best solution and it would make a cool reveal a lot later in the show.

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Thursday, March 6, 2008 12:32 PM

MIRAMEL

dude, they

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blew her up! they just.. blew her friggin up!

not cool, man

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Thursday, March 6, 2008 12:56 PM

TANKOBITE

Heh, your spoiler reminds me of a line in "Battle of Britain"

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He blew up! He just blew up!

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Thursday, March 6, 2008 2:55 PM