My map of the 'verse - Galaxy style by chronicthehedgehog

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My map of the 'verse - Galaxy style

POSTED BY: CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG
UPDATED: Friday, July 2, 2004 08:13
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Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:39 PM

Being a member of the 'galaxy not solar system' camp, I've come up with a 70+ world system that (as far as I can tell) seems to fit with the series. It's located at www.estador.co.uk/firefly/galaxy if anyone wants to take a look and comment. It was designed primarily for my firefly roleplay, but I figured other people might be interested too. I'll be adding more stuff soon, assuming nobody can find major fault with it...

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Friday, July 2, 2004 1:17 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Did you mean to have two different planets named Newhall, or was that just a mistake? You have one in the Dakota system and one the Cairo system.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Friday, July 2, 2004 1:20 AM

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

Oops! Here was me thinking I was being all clever! :P

:Disappears off to fix it:

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Friday, July 2, 2004 1:57 AM

HELL'S KITTEN

Don't forget the Colorado System.

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Friday, July 2, 2004 2:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

As Cassini reaches orbit around Saturn, I just had a thought of moons and planets and such. Saturn its self is uninhabitable...being a giant gas ball, but has 31 ( known ) moons. Now, most are likely just rocks or ice chunks, and Titan ( the target for the Huygens probe) is likely to have some interesting stuff under it's ice..but really, none are candidates for terra forming like Mars might be in this system. So, I guess my point is... with so many planets and moons in OUR solar system - over 100 combined - and even with advanced terra forming - seems to me that 10 % of planets/ moons around any viable star is about the limit to where humans can live.

Not wanting to get into the Drake Equation, since we ARE dealing w/ artifical made eco systems...not natural formed ones, 10% is just a # on a dartboard I came up with.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, July 2, 2004 5:28 AM

BARNSTORMER

I'm also a proponent of the multi star theory.

The main reason for this is that in the beginning of the episode "Safe", when Serenity is landing, and the next scene when the "nice bunch of kidnappers" are skinning the rabbits, the scenes are shot so the ambient light appears a very Blue/White color.

This indicated to me that they were landing on a planet that orbits a Blue/white Dwarf type star rather than the more typical yellow star like our own. Perhaps this is even THE Blue Sun from which the infamous corporation gets its name?????

Anyone else notice this? Or am I way off base....

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

BarnStormer

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Friday, July 2, 2004 5:37 AM

FORRESTWOLF

Blue sun issue - I like that idea - I've wondered for a while - I think it's possible we really are dealing with a blue sun for the Firefly system.

Dragging this all back into the solar-system debate (sorry - and I like the map you made!)...

I personally find the concept of a lot of gas giants with a lot of moons that are terraformable with some sort of advanced technology (keep in mind, they have gravity modification in Firefly) not that impossible. Just an opinion, really. So I'm a solar system person.

BUT, I do see two issues with the solar system theory that are real flaws - 1) while dozens, maybe even 50 or so, planets are doable, getting into the hundreds is just very hard to manage.

2) Communications: Someone mentioned this - why can they be out of range?! It's only light-minutes or light-hours between locations, so their comm system ought to work fine. Here's my counterpoint: Anyone know how hard it would be to aim a directional, high-gain antenna if you weren't in constant comms? That is, right now, we use the Deep Space Network to stay in contact with probes that have omnidirection and high gain directional antennae. We keep a lock on them, know their orbits, and track them. If a hypothetical Firefly-class ship were out there, trying to signal us, would we hear them? How much power would they need, given a particular antenna gain and aperture size (getting technical here, sorry)?

Anyway, those are my 2 issues with my favorite one-solar-system theory. I'm guessing Joss just hasn't decided yet.

COME TO THINK OF IT - all we need for evidence of one-solar-system would be to have quotes in the show about travel times being different based on orbital configurations - that is, if they're all in one system, travel times should change a lot. Hmmm...

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Friday, July 2, 2004 6:16 AM

EARLYWASLATE

Didn't someone post a map that came with the media pack they were thinking of selling? What does that map show?

I've always been a multi-system guy myself. Even with gravity control, several systems makes more sense, even if only a few systems.

Anyways, we know they have navigation sats from OoG. They may also have communication relays as well.

EARLYWASLATE
"Does that seem right to you?"

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Friday, July 2, 2004 6:36 AM

FORRESTWOLF

Good point - we should assume they've solved this issue with a solid network of comm sats (unless those aren't maintained away from the Core).

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Friday, July 2, 2004 7:36 AM

CYBERSNARK

Assuming I'm reading it right:

The big dots with little dots around them are gas giant planets with habitable moons, right?

Well, Mal said he's from Shadow (which you have in Taipei System http://www.estador.co.uk/firefly/galaxy/taipei.html ). All well and good, but any terrestrial with three moons probably isn't gonna be a very nice place to live --especially if those moons are large enough to be terraformed themselves.

For one thing, Shadow would either have incredible gravity (making Mal the equivalent of Hercules in "normal" gravity), and/or be constantly wracked with planetquakes as the moons circle.

Maybe just switch names around, so the planet is Xin Shanghai or Boxer (or even Honeymoon, if you wanna be ironic

) and Shadow is a moon.

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Friday, July 2, 2004 8:13 AM

GUNRUNNER

Shouln't Greenleaf be closer to Jiangjin?

And those Alliance Patroled and Unpatroled things are kind of strange since they cross. If an unpatroled area crosses a patroled area it becomes a patroled area.

Maybe you should make some systems farther away from others becuse, unless they moved stars they shouldn't be all neatly arranged.

Oh and maybe Londinium and Sihnon should be in the same system, but make that systems a Bynary or Trinary system- I think that would just look cool.

But nice work. I hope you keep working on it.

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