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Saturday, July 3, 2004 11:24 PM

ZARINA


... of networks to mail?

I mean think about this... while I am as excited as anyone can be over the release of the movie in April, I would dearly love to see Firefly brought back. Now someone correct me if I am crazy, but two hours is great, but a 22 hour season is better.

Fox has obviously got it's head stuckup their own, well, you know... so could the series be moved or picked up by another network? They did it with Buffy, so why not with Firefly?

I have heard sci/fi channel mentioned in my various travels throughout the internet boards about this subject. Is it really a possibility? And if so, instead of everyone emailing FOX, (which BTW I have my own definition of what FOX stands for now), and yelling, (plus I already did that, twice), why not start a mailing campaign to other networks? Ask them if they would like a huge, crazily devoted fan base? If they would like one, I bet you we could give them a good place to start...

Or am I completely off my nut?


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Sunday, July 4, 2004 12:20 AM

CARDIE


Apparently some sort of contractual deal was made that would prohibit Firefly from returning to television as long as Universal held the option to produce Firefly movies, so any emailing now would be premature. From what I've heard, five years is the minimum that will pass before there can be a series if the movies are successful, and if the movies aren't successful, it's doubtful a network would want to pick up a Firefly show.

If there is to be any return to television, it would probably involve Universal buying the tv rights from 20th-Century-Fox (the producer of the original series, NOT the network on which it aired.) Universal is part of a conglomerate that includes the Sci-Fi Channel, where it would likely end up.

Getting lots of folks to attend Serenity will be a far more effective proof that Firefly should eventually return to tv than writing emails, which studios don't take vey seriously. It was the hard cash from the DVDs, not the rest of the fan campaign, that convinced Universal to make the movie.

Cardie

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 3:54 AM

WREN


Jewel has said that the time period is ten years.

Plus, Joss approached all the other companies after Firefly was taken off air and they were not interested. Universal are unlikely to return it to tv until after the trilogy has completed.

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 4:39 AM

FEMALEJAYNE


I don't mind waiting ten years (If I can have the movies to tide me over) to get Firefly back on the air. We have to figure out how to make the movies a huge sucess so FOX bangs their heads on a wall(maybe they could form a single line and take pictures or make it their new reality TV) and Universal is jumping for joy and patting themselves on the back.

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 5:42 AM

ECGORDON

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The time frame to a new series is not clear. Nathan said several years but was not specific on the number, Jewel said ten. The fact of the matter is we just don't know the details of the contract agreed on between Universal and 20th Century Fox. But I would be willing to bet it was specified by Universal that Fox could not pursue a revival of the series until they are done with the films rather than the other way around. However, money talks and contracts can be renegotiated. We just need to insure that the BDM is successful, and the best way to do that is to keep spreading the word about the DVDs. The more people who see the series means more who will be anxiously awaiting the BDM.

And as for networks who might run a new series, don't forget that Universal is part of a conglomerate that includes NBC, SciFi, USA, and Bravo, and probably a couple more I'm not aware of.




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Sunday, July 4, 2004 10:09 AM

CYBERSNARK


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Originally posted by FemaleJayne:
FOX bangs their heads on a wall(maybe they could form a single line and take pictures or make it their new reality TV)



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Sunday, July 4, 2004 11:30 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
The time frame to a new series is not clear. We just need to insure that the BDM is successful, and the best way to do that is to keep spreading the word about the DVDs. The more people who see the series means more who will be anxiously awaiting the BDM.



Have to say that now that Serenity has taken flight, it looks more and more likely that Firefly is dead. If Serenity does well, the stars will become too big for TV, simple fact. Sure, there could be a spin off with a new cast, perhaps filling in the story between movies, if Joss wanted to go down that route - I get the impression however he would like to stick to the silver screen for a little while.

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 5:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
The time frame to a new series is not clear. We just need to insure that the BDM is successful, and the best way to do that is to keep spreading the word about the DVDs. The more people who see the series means more who will be anxiously awaiting the BDM.



Have to say that now that Serenity has taken flight, it looks more and more likely that Firefly is dead. If Serenity does well, the stars will become too big for TV, simple fact. Sure, there could be a spin off with a new cast, perhaps filling in the story between movies, if Joss wanted to go down that route - I get the impression however he would like to stick to the silver screen for a little while.

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there is no way that Joss would ever do a spin off with a different cast. he wouldn't have even done Serenity if one person was missing. if he ever did a spinoff in that matter, my respect for him would go directly down the toilet

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 9:00 PM

JELLO


10 years is a pretty long time. I'll wait, no question there. But once the movies are done and time has passed, I'm sure the cast will by then have other things going for them which I hope they do. They are all extremely talented. If they don't, then shiny. The show being resurrected would not go amiss, but some things would be different. First off, Ron Glass would be 70. No offense to the elderly, but i know a few, and passed 60 they can't do a lot of what they used to. The only thing we can hope for is that the movies do phenomenally and either FOX stops doing the stupid crap it's used to doing and resurrect it themselves or do the right thing and sell the rights over to a studio actually interested in it (that also understands the shows premise).

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 10:02 PM

MAKEROFPATHS


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
The time frame to a new series is not clear. Nathan said several years but was not specific on the number, Jewel said ten. The fact of the matter is we just don't know the details of the contract agreed on between Universal and 20th Century Fox. But I would be willing to bet it was specified by Universal that Fox could not pursue a revival of the series until they are done with the films rather than the other way around. However, money talks and contracts can be renegotiated. We just need to insure that the BDM is successful, and the best way to do that is to keep spreading the word about the DVDs. The more people who see the series means more who will be anxiously awaiting the BDM.

And as for networks who might run a new series, don't forget that Universal is part of a conglomerate that includes NBC, SciFi, USA, and Bravo, and probably a couple more I'm not aware of.




That's the best summary and speculation on the rights situation I've read. I pretty much agree, and I have to compliment you on the twist that Universal sought the TV ban, rather than Fox imposing it. Makes perfect sense.

I'm going to boilerplate that answer -- if you don't mind -- and drop it into any similar question posted by a newbie, as above. With credit, of course.





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Monday, July 5, 2004 5:30 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


No problem, makerofpaths. It just seems to be the most logical assumption to make. But I am also very sure that although Joss would love to become the next big thing as a film director, he would still like to bring Firefly back to the small screen. It is the only venue appropriate for the heavy story arc he obviously had in mind from the start.




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Monday, July 5, 2004 8:22 PM

NORUTTINWAY


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
No problem, makerofpaths. It just seems to be the most logical assumption to make. But I am also very sure that although Joss would love to become the next big thing as a film director, he would still like to bring Firefly back to the small screen. It is the only venue appropriate for the heavy story arc he obviously had in mind from the start.




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I agree EC. With the ratings woes FOX is having now...a show like "Firefly" would be just what they would need as long as Joss had the final say...but have they learned their lesson? I tend to think not.

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 6:48 AM

HARPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by FemaleJayne:
I don't mind waiting ten years (If I can have the movies to tide me over) to get Firefly back on the air. We have to figure out how to make the movies a huge sucess so FOX bangs their heads on a wall(maybe they could form a single line and take pictures or make it their new reality TV) and Universal is jumping for joy and patting themselves on the back.



I would love to have Firefly back on the air. I didn't discover the show until the DVDs came out. After 10 years, what are the chances the actors and producers would want to resurrect Firefly for television? More than likely, they will want to work on other projects, rather than return to a show that was on tv ten years earlier.

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
there is no way that Joss would ever do a spin off with a different cast. he wouldn't have even done Serenity if one person was missing. if he ever did a spinoff in that matter, my respect for him would go directly down the toilet



Not sure I follow your logic. Serenity is a go, he is telling the story of that ship in another format. The movies can tell one story over two hours or so, but there may be other stories set in that universe that could be told in a TV format. Realistically, the series can't (for apparently contractual reasons) transfer back to the small screen with the same cast - if they are still making Serenity movies when the TV option comes available, what price the entire cast going back to 8-9 months making TV at whatever their salaries would be?

I just don't understand how a spin off series somehow offends you so much in the present circumstances, or at all.

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 2:16 PM

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Ten YEARS! I wasn't planning on living that long.

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 4:29 PM

JK


Well, to my mind, a spin-off would mean no original cast because they're still doing the movies. So there's that. And since Firefly's success hinges on its characters, there's a huge problem right there. Plus, as I mentioned somewhere else, once you start relentlessly mining a deep and rich 'verse with spin-offs it becomes less deep and rich and more shallow and poor.

As things stand, looks like we should just accept that the story has gone to films and be thankful.

JK

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 11:47 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by JK:
Well, to my mind, a spin-off would mean no original cast because they're still doing the movies. So there's that. And since Firefly's success hinges on its characters, there's a huge problem right there.



Because Joss has never managed to create a spin off in the same universe with different characters which worked before....

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