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Originally posted by est120:
i was just talking to a friend of mine and i realized that there are a LOT of remake style movies being made lately. just a short list of released, rumored or confirmed "remakes":

starsky and hutch
superman
bewitched
amityville horror
akira
assault on precinct 13
charlie and the chocolate factory
miami vice
the manchurian candidate

also, what is the deal with all the comic book/cartoons being made into feature films? of course, the big ones:

spiderman
hulk
batman (the new one)
scooby-doo

and then the others:
catwoman
elektra
fantastic four
gi joe
garfield
speed racer
spy hunter

granted, not all of these movies will actually be made, but still, is this normal? of course, the success of spiderman must be having a huge impact on this trend.

what do people think? do you all like these kinds of movies or does it seem to be a lack or "original" ideas (even though most concepts are often "borrowed" from other works)?

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Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
... old boy cash.
I am looking forward to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, with Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka

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Anyway, nice sig. I love that song. Can't hardly get through it without welling up.

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Anyway, nice sig. I love that song. Can't hardly get through it without welling up.

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one of the best lyrics that i have ever heard. the song as a whole is just fantastic. neko case is someone that more people should listen to!

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Originally posted by VearsTwin:


Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is directed by the same person who directed Edward Scissorshands. Which is one of the best movies 90's!!!

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Originally posted by PopeBob:
Actualy the whole Comic Book side of movies really came thru with Batman. it just took it a while to pick up some Steam. And dont for get Daredevil and the Punisher. I actualy want to go see the new Punisher Movie. It's got crazy Shark Hunter guy from Deep Blue Sea.

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Originally posted by Argonautika:
You seem surprised that they can make movies or should make movies out of already established properties.

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i am not really surprised at the number of movies like this that are out there. i think it is more that i am a little surprised at how well they do at the box office and how sudden it seems that many of these comic-book or remake turned movies do very well. of course, you are right, with pre-existing fan bases, a studio can almost guarantee that at least SOMEONE will go to see it. in more recent years, i agree, batman probably killed the genre for a few years and x-men brought it back in a big way.

i just thought of another one to add to your list:

teenage mutant ninja turtles (comic)

man that movie was great.


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Originally posted by bikisdad:
Actually, for "Apollo 13" I'd call the original source material "real life".

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Actualy the whole Comic Book side of movies really came thru with Batman. QUOTE]

I don't even think we can say that. I think that Batman started a new trend in contemporary potential comic book films but comics have been a part of film for a long time. In the 30's and 40's there were movie serials for Flash Gordon, Batman, Captain Marvel, Superman, Dick Tracy, Tarzan and quite a few others. Some of these characters that were only visible in the newspaper strips. There have been tv series for Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman ( a couple actually), Spider-man, as well as Flash. There have been early movies starring Prince Valiant, Tarzan, Lil Abner and even Popeye (a classic Robin Williams performance). Of course then there are the failed attempts like Punisher (Dolph Lundgren), Fantastic Four, Captain America, Howard the Duck (which I actually enjoyed), and many others. The point is, this is nothing new. It is however new to our generation as successful films. Previous films based on comic books just didn't cut it but lately there have been some very successful movies. Do not worry... Catwoman will break that trend.;)


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Actually, for "Apollo 13" I'd call the original source material "real life".

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It was based on a Book called "Lost Moon" latter retitled "Apollo 13" written by Jim Lovel (commander of the Apollo 13 mission) and a Reporter. The source material for the book was Real Life.

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Originally posted by PopeBob:
Actualy the whole Comic Book side of movies really came thru with Batman. it just took it a while to pick up some Steam. And dont for get Daredevil and the Punisher. I actualy want to go see the new Punisher Movie. It's got crazy Shark Hunter guy from Deep Blue Sea.

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I actually think Batman is what killed comic book based movies for a while. The last Batman(s) were pretty sad movies. X-Men definately was the kicker to bring them back.

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Originally posted by bikisdad:

Wasn't the first comic book movie "Superman" - the Christopher Reeve one? Or were there any before that?

EDIT: Never mind! I just read the post above that answered my question - very good info.

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Actualy the whole Comic Book side of movies really came thru with Batman. QUOTE]

I don't even think we can say that. I think that Batman started a new trend in contemporary potential comic book films but comics have been a part of film for a long time. In the 30's and 40's there were movie serials for Flash Gordon, Batman, Captain Marvel, Superman, Dick Tracy, Tarzan and quite a few others. Some of these characters that were only visible in the newspaper strips. There have been tv series for Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman ( a couple actually), Spider-man, as well as Flash. There have been early movies starring Prince Valiant, Tarzan, Lil Abner and even Popeye (a classic Robin Williams performance). Of course then there are the failed attempts like Punisher (Dolph Lundgren), Fantastic Four, Captain America, Howard the Duck (which I actually enjoyed), and many others. The point is, this is nothing new. It is however new to our generation as successful films. Previous films based on comic books just didn't cut it but lately there have been some very successful movies. Do not worry... Catwoman will break that trend.;)


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Thank you!! I was reading this thread snickering to myself and then feeling old and sorry because of the history of bringing super heros to the big and small screen.

Oh, and thanks for reminding me that Howard the Duck is another guilty pleasure -- although it was the comic that I loved better.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
not the mining of old stories for ideas, but lame attempts to cash in

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Originally posted by est120:
just a short list of released, rumored or confirmed "remakes":

starsky and hutch
superman
bewitched
amityville horror
akira
assault on precinct 13
charlie and the chocolate factory
miami vice
the manchurian candidate

also, what is the deal with all the comic book/cartoons being made into feature films? of course, the big ones:
spiderman
hulk
batman (the new one)
scooby-doo
and then the others:
catwoman
elektra
fantastic four
gi joe
garfield
speed racer
spy hunter

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Honestly,I don't know a single baby boomer who knows what Assault on Precinct 13 or Akira is (and WHY does Akira need to be remade?),

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Second - with movies, I suspect there are Gen-Xers pitching the ideas, and they're the ones gettin' a bit nostalgic. Frankly, I'm expecting an A-Team or Dukes of Hazzard movie any day now.

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Originally posted by PopeBob:
Actualy the whole Comic Book side of movies really came thru with Batman. it just took it a while to pick up some Steam. And dont for get Daredevil and the Punisher. I actualy want to go see the new Punisher Movie. It's got crazy Shark Hunter guy from Deep Blue Sea.

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as i understand it, there is a dukes of hazzard movie in the works with a 2006 release date.

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Batman and Superman have been around forever, so they're exempt from my theory. Bewitched is as well.
Alot of the stuff listed isn't baby boomer stuff. It's Gen X, mid-70s -80s stuff. Everyone I know watched GI Joe, Spiderman, Speed Racer cartoons when we were younger,and let's not forget Justice League (Wonder Twin powers, activate!), and Scooby-Do, of course. If you sit through all the credits on both Spiderman movies, you get to hear a whole version of the cartoon theme song, actually, besides the fact that it's actually sung by people in the movies.
There's also the Hulk tv show and Starsky & Hutch,which everyone I know watched. Honestly,I don't know a single baby boomer who knows what Assault on Precinct 13 or Akira is (and WHY does Akira need to be remade?), though I'm sure there are some.
Willy Wonka as well is more a Gen X thing,the fact that it was a book first notwithstanding.
Plus, if you check out toys lately, you'll see that He-man, Transformers, and Strawberry Shortcake have all made a comeback.
I think there's two reasons for this - the marketing people have realized that a large chunk of Gen X now has kids, and is indirectly marketing to the parents through the kids (He-Man? I played with He-Man! My kids'll love it!), while directly marketing with stuff like Speed Racer movies.
Second - with movies, I suspect there are Gen-Xers pitching the ideas, and they're the ones gettin' a bit nostalgic. Frankly, I'm expecting an A-Team or Dukes of Hazzard movie any day now.

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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:

I think there's two reasons for this - the marketing people have realized that a large chunk of Gen X now has kids, and is indirectly marketing to the parents through the kids (He-Man? I played with He-Man! My kids'll love it!), while directly marketing with stuff like Speed Racer movies.
Second - with movies, I suspect there are Gen-Xers pitching the ideas, and they're the ones gettin' a bit nostalgic. Frankly, I'm expecting an A-Team or Dukes of Hazzard movie any day now.

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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is directed by the same person who directed Edward Scissorshands. Which is one of the best movies 90's!!!

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Tim Burton is bloody brilliant. Tim Burton and Johnny Depp together (yet again) even better!

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Bwuh? Hadn't heard of this.

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Though, you did miss the 80s remake I'm getting excited about: Transformers.

Yes, Hollywood movers & shakers are currently in talks about a live-action/CGI Transformers G1 movie. I'm hoping for John Goodman as Sparkplug.

Tough really, with the Beast Era, RiD, and Armada, Transformers never really stopped being cool. . .

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as i understand it, there is a dukes of hazzard movie in the works with a 2006 release date.

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Yes, and this chills me to my very core, as it has been foretold in the Holy Apocalypse as the final sign of the undoing of the Dark One's prison. Weep for the future.

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I beg to differ. The Baby Boom started post WWII...the largest cohort in the Baby Boom consists of those of us born in 1957. You guessed it -- that's my year. People always leave us out of the equation because there is a romantic fascination with the leading edge of the baby boom, as ther should be, because they are quintessential boomers born out of the prosperity of our returned heros-- yada, yada.
So what you state as Gen X is actually a blend with tail-o-the-boom. I already claimed several in my post above, and you mention several others above I would consider squarely part of the boomer past -- these are shows I tracked with my 1954-born brother. Not that this matters much (except to late boomers like myself).

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Oh, I'm not gonna argue that "late boomers" get left out, because my friends and I have had discussions about that very thing, but we have also come to the conclusion that "late boomers" is not a good name for them. No,we don't have a better one, but they are a sandwich generation and therefore have big parts of two others, which makes them totally neither one. I will accept you saying the stuff I listed are part of the late boomer demographic, but I still think there needs to be a better designation for that group.
And don't even get me STARTED on the whole "18-35" demographic. I'm 35. What makes marketing people think that I'm going to be interested in the same things as most 18 year olds are? Are they insane? My favourite example is something I read calling "The OC" the most popular show in the 18-35 year old demographic. I don't know a single soul over the age of 22 who watches The OC (and yes, I do know 22 year old people. ) They need to divide that up a bit; say 16 or 17-22, then 23 to like 35.
Yes, I'm a micro managing freak, and this was not really meant to be a rant.
It just turned into one.
Sorry.

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That's not the worst part... Daisy Duke is going to be played by none other than Jessica Simpson.

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i did hear about this. i hope they do it with some good CGI. that would be pretty neat to see. there is a transformers playstation game that is supposed to be pretty cool, so that may be sparking more interest. i hope they use the characters from the original series. they were the best, although many of them perished in the movie.

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I beg to differ. The Baby Boom started post WWII...the largest cohort in the Baby Boom consists of those of us born in 1957. You guessed it -- that's my year. People always leave us out of the equation because there is a romantic fascination with the leading edge of the baby boom, as ther should be, because they are quintessential boomers born out of the prosperity of our returned heros-- yada, yada.
So what you state as Gen X is actually a blend with tail-o-the-boom. I already claimed several in my post above, and you mention several others above I would consider squarely part of the boomer past -- these are shows I tracked with my 1954-born brother. Not that this matters much (except to late boomers like myself).

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Oh, I'm not gonna argue that "late boomers" get left out, because my friends and I have had discussions about that very thing, but we have also come to the conclusion that "late boomers" is not a good name for them. No,we don't have a better one, but they are a sandwich generation and therefore have big parts of two others, which makes them totally neither one. I will accept you saying the stuff I listed are part of the late boomer demographic, but I still think there needs to be a better designation for that group.
And don't even get me STARTED on the whole "18-35" demographic. I'm 35. What makes marketing people think that I'm going to be interested in the same things as most 18 year olds are? Are they insane? My favourite example is something I read calling "The OC" the most popular show in the 18-35 year old demographic. I don't know a single soul over the age of 22 who watches The OC (and yes, I do know 22 year old people. ) They need to divide that up a bit; say 16 or 17-22, then 23 to like 35.
Yes, I'm a micro managing freak, and this was not really meant to be a rant.
It just turned into one.
Sorry.

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Made you rant! Ha-ha!

Seriously, it is worth ranting about that marketing folks think they can wrap us all up in such neat little packages. Nonetheless, the definitions are quite clear.

Plus, you are so cute saying that

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. Since I am one of them, I suppose I can call myself what I like...even if you are right that the label sucks.

Oh...& can I rant with you for a minute? Saw another boomer ref. today -- focused on retirement or some such. Seriously people, I am a boomer and I don't yet rate a senior meal at any eating establishment. Stop rushing me into geeserdom with the leading edge of my cohort. There. I said it. My cohort.

Thanks for the grin, Ankhagogo!!


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