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Villains that Would Return if the Series Continued

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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:08 PM

SILVERSURFER


So does anyone on here think that a lot of the villains would return for other episodes had the series continued? Isn't Whedon known for keeping notorious villains around? (I've never seen Buffy). I think that of course these people would return:

1.Saffron
2.Nischka
3.The Bounty Hunter from "Objects in Space"

The first two are shoo ins, but the bounty hunter was an awesome/twisted character....and he didn't actually die.



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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:22 PM

FALSTAFF


Don't forget Badger. He's Kinda.. Evilish.. yes??

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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:38 PM

DAVESHAYNE


On the commentary track to Serenity the episode Nathan mentions that Dobson would have been a recurring antagonist. Almost certainly Jubal Early would have been a returning bad guy. Atherton might have shown up looking to make Inara's life unpleasant. Maybe Rance's wife would have shown up looking for some revenge. That about covers it I think.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:38 PM

THESOAPBOXER


I would've liked to see Dobson (the Fed) come back live and in person with his new "metal face."

(For those who don't know, he does come back in the Serenity comic mini-series. Joss had said that he had intended for Dobson to come back had the series continued.)

And, of course, the Blue Hand Group.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:51 PM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


Niska? Patience?

They would have plenty of reason to get at Mal & crew.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 2:03 PM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by Falstaff:
Don't forget Badger. He's Kinda.. Evilish.. yes??

"I'll be in my Bunk.."



Badger strikes me as crazy evil. He's the sort of guy that might try to kill you with a soup ladle.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 2:08 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
Niska? Patience?



Well niska did already recur. Not that he couldn't have come back later. I dunno though, at some point he really has to realize that continually getting beaten by Mal and the crew can't be good for business. If nothing else it should already be hard to find security people to replace the last group that got blown to the hot place.

Patience though I don't get. All Mal did to her was insist on getting paid the agreed upon pittance for a cargo. Mal could have killed her and lit out with both the goods and the platinum but he didn't. She might maybe hire them for some job but I don't see her being adversarial particularly.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 2:44 PM

FALSTAFF


Magistrate from Jaynestown episode might be a pain.. that's twice Jayne got away, I'd be pissed if I were an evil mud baron.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 2:49 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Falstaff:
Magistrate from Jaynestown episode might be a pain.. that's twice Jayne got away, I'd be pissed if I were an evil mud baron.

"I'll be in my bunk.."



Good catch. Though I suspect his son would tend to get in the way of any revenge.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:06 PM

TAYEATRA


2 by 2,
Hands of blue.


...Also there's no way that was the last we would've seen of Atherton Wing.

Dark Angel, Firefly, Buffy, Angel, Enterprise, Farscape... anything else you'd like to cancel?

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:10 PM

CYBERSNARK


Niska would likely have a personal grudge against the Serenity crew (as opposed to against Mal personally).

IIRC Whedon confirmed that Early survived, and he's far too cool a character to waste on a one-shot.

I feel that the BlueHands were intended to be an ongoing thing, so they would almost certainly have reappeared.

And Badger's not evil. He's a businessman (not unlike Fanty & Mingo).

In fact, if we'd had time, I can well imagine our loveable crew getting caught in a turf war between Badger and the twins. As an interesting little non-cliché, we have no great love for either side.

Quote:

Originally posted by daveshayne:
Patience though I don't get. All Mal did to her was insist on getting paid the agreed upon pittance for a cargo. Mal could have killed her and lit out with both the goods and the platinum but he didn't. She might maybe hire them for some job but I don't see her being adversarial particularly.

She also shot at him. Again.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:21 PM

BUCKINGHAMNICKS


Definitly, Saffron!!!

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:29 PM

ANASAZI


I could have seen some more of Saffron. Oh yes indeed.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:38 PM

MCALLEN


I swear I read somewhere a quote from Joss saying that Jubal Early was definitely still around somewhere, making me think he'd show up again in future incarnations of the 'verse.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:50 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
She also shot at him. Again.



Well yea, she did a bit. :) But that was before Mal explained how he expected to be treated in the future and then chose not to kill her. I think she has to figure not messing with Mal is in her best interest.

David

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Friday, February 10, 2006 4:35 PM

DINKY


I loved badger, he would have to be a requirement in (I wish) the new series.

"... Business man, see..." *tugs on his silly suit*

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Friday, February 10, 2006 4:56 PM

PDCHARLES

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Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:

IIRC Whedon confirmed that Early survived, and he's far too cool a character to waste on a one-shot.



I often imagined Early getting somehow, miraculously, picked up by the S.S. Walden (OOG). Then bringing havoc back to the crew and shedding a little more light on Book.

After the movie… not so much now

Hell… bring ‘em all back! Have a brotherhood of ruttin’ badguys. That’s BDVs!





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Friday, February 10, 2006 5:01 PM

AMITON


Quote:

Originally posted by Tayeatra:
2 by 2,
Hands of blue.



Well...I don't *think* the Blue Hands are coming back, now, as per the comics...

Select to view spoiler:



"Our independent contractors have...disappeared"..."Their work falls to you."

Intro the Operative. The original intention likely was to run the Blue Hands for at least season two, but I think that's done now from what I get out of that exchange.



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Friday, February 10, 2006 5:07 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Quote:

Originally posted by thesoapboxer:
I would've liked to see Dobson (the Fed) come back live and in person with his new "metal face."

(For those who don't know, he does come back in the Serenity comic mini-series. Joss had said that he had intended for Dobson to come back had the series continued.)

And, of course, the Blue Hand Group.

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Mind putting that in spoiler mode, some of us haven't read the comics. Thanks for that.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 5:27 PM

KIZYR


It actually wasn't until I watched War Stories the third time that I realized Niska had clearly gotten away (I dunno why this escaped me the first two times). And, you never saw Early die; and in show terms, that means he's coming back.

The more interesting characters, I think, will be the 'incidental' villains--the ones who weren't really bad guys, but the crew just got in their way. That'd be Atherton and Boss Higgins, of course; seeing them come back all humiliated and looking for retribution would make for some interesting times.

But define interesting... KF



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