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Imponderables: God Loves Ugly

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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:42 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Can explain title of thread later. For now, welcome everyone.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:43 AM

SISTER


firsties!

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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:44 AM

ZEEK


secondsies!!!

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Monday, March 3, 2008 7:58 AM

NOBLEBROWNCOAT


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Can explain title of thread later. For now, welcome everyone.



Is it in reference to the Atmosphere album? Good CD for those of you who are interested in Rap that isn't womanizing and materialistic.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 8:19 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


*pouncehuggles Neko and wishes he was a lot closer to where she is now*



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Monday, March 3, 2008 8:49 AM

MSB


HUGS poor Neko. I am so sorry sweety. Life just never runs smooth does it??? Hey what's that...no putting down my friend. You do not chase the good ones off... if they are too stupid to recognize how wonderful and great you are, that's their stupid fault!!!

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:03 AM

ZEEK


Neko, I may not be remembering correctly but I think you're the one with the long distance relationship. Don't go blaming yourself if the long distance thing went to hell in a handbasket. Those things are just doomed from the get go IMO.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:06 AM

MSB


Wow...such a cheery little ray of sunshine this morning Zeek... need a hug?

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:14 AM

ZEEK


Nope just being honest. I've seen way too many long distance relationships fail. I mean unless there's a pretty quick end in sight (6 months or less I'd say) I just don't see them working. I'm sure there are exceptions, but in general that seems to be the rule.

The silver lining is that it's nothing Neko did or didn't do. It's just the circumstances.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:22 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Yup NBC, It is a referance to the Atmosphere album (Hands NBC a cookie) No, it's not the condecending cookie of "good job moron", it's the enlightened cookie for folks who know good music.

Just had a wierd dream that made me feel kinda ugly this morning. But I happened to catch Atmosphere in the random choosings of my media player this morning and felt a little better.

How is it we can feel guilty for the crappy things we do in our dreams? Stuff we would never do IRL not even if the circumstances were different. Just wondering.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:32 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
How is it we can feel guilty for the crappy things we do in our dreams? Stuff we would never do IRL not even if the circumstances were different. Just wondering.


I think part of that might come from not wanting people to know you are even dreaming about that kind of thing. Maybe it's a bit of learned tact (for lack of a better word) that gets ingrained in us before we start really thinking for ourselves. *shrug* Or I could be full of sh*t and talking out of my *ss.



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And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I kinda figured it that way. Just strange how I completely felt like an asshole waking this morning. Dirty bad. Like I deserved to feel bad.

Meh. Anyways my 'puter is being funny. All I can access is FFF and nothing else. Wierdness? You be the judge.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 9:48 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


It could be worse, your computer could be only able to access www.bigbrotherseason8isthebestshowever.com



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And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 10:02 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Tempted to click but resisted. Feel a bit soggy in the gut as it will still be a bit bfore tv quality goes up. If it gets better I might watch again. For now I'll continue with Red Dwarf and wait for further fixes of Torchwood and Doctor Who.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 10:06 AM

MSB


HUGS NV... probably because too many people tell you that dreams are subconscious manifestations of desires ( which is crap) it's just your brain presenting you with images it wants to think over... no motives.... besides we all know what a wonderful guy you are:)

OK must scream quietly now...

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Monday, March 3, 2008 11:28 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
probably because too many people tell you that dreams are subconscious manifestations of desires ( which is crap)


You're telling me I don't want to watch a superbowl of the Bears vs. the Eagles (impossible NFC vs NFC matchup) where a no name Bears wide receiver scores an incredible go ahead touchdown and then ends up looking like my brother's doppleganger when they're interviewing him later? Is that what you're trying to say?

This dream brought to you by Zeek's crazy mind last night.

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:27 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well, back at work, kept getting calls from folks while on lunch and that was enough to negate the five minute nap, kid ran away, tech's are incompetant and made me look like a dumbass in front of the police chief, realized that I forgot to wash my hair this morning, and my tech's are dumbasses.

Other than that the e-mail is gone to doing dick again.

Did I mention my tech's are dumbasses?


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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:47 PM

MSB


HUGS NV...oh that sucks ( sadly you already knew your techs are dumbasses... but it always irritates you when it's confirmed by others)

Yes Zeek that's just what I meant... there's no subconscious anything...just weird:)

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Monday, March 3, 2008 12:49 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
Yes Zeek that's just what I meant... there's no subconscious anything...just weird:)


So crazy dreams don't happen for a reason? There's your answer I guess. Deep down you don't believe that everything happens for a reason

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:04 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


I don't know. I get anxiety dreams when things bother me.

My personal favourite was just before my first year University exams. I had a dream I was in my old secondary school hall (where we did all our exams) and the desk I was sitting at went on fire! I had no fear of being burned, I was just frustrated I couldn't get my paper done!

Speaking of things bothering me, Immigration called into our school to do a "spot check" that was in noooo way a spot check. They full on interrogated a workmate, and asked a lot of questions that bothered me. The director passed it off as just a routine check, but I'm not happy. I've been through every kind of inspection and audit under the sun. This was like no inspection I've ever seen.




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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:09 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


They're looking for aliens. No. Real aliens that slipped through the rift.

Needs some music and drinks. Think I'll just work on markers after work.

ADD> Made me feel better. Not Safe For Work but f*ck it, I don't give two sh*ts!!!




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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:21 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
They're looking for aliens. No. Real aliens that slipped through the rift.



Ha! Yes they are, and I know why!

Because every day someone with poor attendance comes to me and wants me to "do something about it." and will sit there waiting for me to come up with some sort of magic solution for them.

And every day, my reaction is the same: "What frikin' planet are you on???"




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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:26 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


See. It might be unofficial proof but what is your usual answer?

Really though, why do people try playing off the emotions or sensibilities of others? I might seem accomodating to the needs of our pregnant staff, but what keeps me from putting the boots to them? Nothing! It just pisses me off that they seem to expect me to be a little sensitive when the F up. What the hell for? It'll be a matter of time before I have to take disciplinar action and will have to research and consult on what working to use so's not to chance a discrimination suit. Oh fricken boy.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:28 PM

MSB


They are all spawned on the planet " No Way in Hell" and for some reason many of it's inhabitants choose to move here....


HUGS to all and I am headed out:)

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:29 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Loves hon. We have a good contingent of the same populus here too.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:49 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
See. It might be unofficial proof but what is your usual answer?



If they come to me with attendance issues? Honestly? 99% of the time my reaction starts with "tough" and ends with "-it." I'm sick to the eye teeth of students taking the p*ss when it comes to going to class. They just don't take it seriously. They'll use absolutely any excuse not to bother going - and then they get mad at us for not giving them credit for being sick or at work or whatever. WTF???

...which is why I was surprised at the tone of the investigation. I know there are a core of poor students, but the college itself always seemed straight up - dreadfully naive in their first yea, sure, but still honest and compliant with immigration law. But after this? Not so sure.

The biggest issue I had is that they wanted information on several students I didn't think *were* students. I thought they were full time employees. Now I'm there about three months, and these guys are in a different building, so I don't know for certain if they were working more than twenty hours. BUT... I got the impression they were.

I haven't confronted the director yet (and I heard that immigration told him to fire the people involved) but... I gave out yards to students who worked more than the 20 hours allowed under the terms of their visa. Full blown lectures. If I found out the college was breaking the very same law? Not only would I leave, I'd shop them to immigration myself. How do they expect any student to obey the rules if they don't? I'd rather be unemployed than a hypocrite.

That's worse case scenario though. I'll see if there's any truth to the rumours I've heard first.




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Monday, March 3, 2008 2:03 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


At least you are making a conscious effort to show your own sensibilities. Imagine how many other people in the faculty are cowering at the thought of such consequence. Screw 'em. It's good to know that someone is willing to state the case rather than hide from it.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 2:09 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


True. But then I was hired to pretty much sort all this crap out. Recently that's mostly involved going to the director and saying "the students are not the biggest problem. Here is what ~you~ need to change!"

Already I'm torn between sticking it out and helping them change for the better or just giving up on the place. Knowing they broke the law would definitely push me out the door. It would be proof positive my job there is just impossible.




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Monday, March 3, 2008 2:21 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Heh. Kinda funny how we are all in the same boat. It is our matter fully to make sure our facilities are in compliance and are servicing our clientele to the fullest extent. Of course support from administration sure would be fricken nice now wouldn't it.

I know Browncoat Island might be a better choice but there is a place called Indepenence Valley between here and Salt Lake. Sure it isn't tropical but it is sixty miles from the nearest Wal Mart and is damn pretty. Might make due 'til the finalities are made for the island move.


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Monday, March 3, 2008 2:35 PM

MSB


HUGS DTH always nice when somehow we're expected to perform miracles....sigh well hang in there and check it out first. I've just been a victim of the jump to conclusions based on rumors....


NV hey I'll follow you anywhere:)

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Monday, March 3, 2008 2:38 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Yay!!!

(Runs around in small circles due to having a small office)


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Monday, March 3, 2008 4:00 PM

MSB


But you knew that already

I need not to be here....I really need to be home.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 1:48 AM

SPACEANJL


Hey, DTH, I got a college story for you.

Imagine a college that takes on a number of foreign students from various countries. The ones that can pay a whole wedge of cash up front get a certificate that claims to be a proper qualification (but has no real standing, being run off a printer in an upstairs office.) The ones that can't pay are given 'part-time' jobs as cleaning staff - six and a half day weeks, that prevent them from ever attending any lectures that might benefit them.

Now imagine being the administrator told to make up a course title and register these folks so that the college can claim some money for them.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 2:59 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Imponderables.

:)



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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:19 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good morning people. Might be out for a bit this morning. Doing a favor for my buddy John. Taking his brother in law to sign divorce papers. Yay. Could be worse though. Could be running to pay on the books so John can get a candy bar from commissary.
See. Things do work out for a certain way (occasionally).




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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:29 AM

MSB


HUGS Jimi... so nice to see you happy:)

Anjl...seriously?? Wow that sounds so ...academic...
Diploma mills irritate me. I busted my butt to get my degrees... everyone else should have to as well:)

HUSG NV.. you're such a good friend.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:10 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well, the dumbass went to work at seven and forgot to tell everyone. Its all good though. Seems further arrangements were amde and he has a ride to sign and be done with it all. He does not want to pay child support but still wants visitation even though he pretty much has ignored her since she was born. Oh well. Hopefully he returns to Oklahoma and doesn't attempt to return.

Either way i got a nice greasy breakfast and some gas money out of it. Although I think the breakfast may be able to sustain me longer than expected.


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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:16 AM

MSB


Ah the I don't care enough to make sure you have food and a roof over your head, but I'd still like to see you sometime parenting plan... yeah like that'll happen

oooh sustaining breakfast...sounds nummy:)

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:46 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Breakfast. I haven't had that in a good while, not anything decent anyhow. I kinda miss it.

Here's hoping it's less rainy and thingsnotworkingout-y than it is here for everyone.

*snuggles MsB*



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About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I f*ck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 9:03 AM

MSB


breakfast...used to like it. Then I lived with my parents and my mom made me breakfast every day ( which sounds so nice) but it was exactly the same breakfast every day... now I attempt to avoid it.



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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 9:51 AM

SPACEANJL


Oooh, breakfast...

Home-made sour-cream pancakes with maple syrup and bacon

Full English with strong tea

Fresh mango slices with nutmeg syrup

Crisp hot toast with home-made marmalade

Perfectly soft-boiled egg and soldiers

Hot porridge with cold cream and honey

Idli with coconut chutney

Croissants dipped in hot chocolate


What's not to like?


ps the college story? That's why I resigned. That, and the little psycho with a gun who had all the dead animals in his shower...

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 10:00 AM

MSB


were the animals dead before he showered with them???


HUGS Anjl.. yeah education the best job in the world...

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 10:32 AM

ZEEK


Mmmm breakfast honey nut cheerios

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 11:01 AM

MSB


LOl you're all breakfast freaks:)

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:00 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Nope, just a freak.

Yeah, I like breakfast more late at night or the morning after a good drinking session. A good potato scramble with egg, meat, and cheese. Maybe pancakes and sausage links. Or buffet with a little of everything (especially corned beef hash with crispy edges included, Yummmmm). Still love corn chex and toast or old fashioned oatmeal with toast the best.

Okay, breakfast freak over here.


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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 4:19 PM

MSB


yeah , but you're my freak..



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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:07 PM

AVENGINGWATCHER


Yay, apparently I am the only student in this chat, but I know where you guys are coming from. I am as they would say "gifted" so I tend to be far ahead of my classes and tend to know slightly more than some of my teachers and far more than most of the students, so I get along well with my teachers and help a lot of the other students. Teachers confide in me the struggles of students and sometimes I really just don't think they are hard enough. If someone misses most of their assignments for no valid reason why should the teacher have to make up that slack. I mean if I can work full time at night while maintaining above a 3.0 in a double major they should be able to handle 4 classes a semester while living at home. Okay done complaining about other dumb students!

You guys have way more interesting dreams than I do. I just solve problems and dream about my wife...isn't that sad I can't even dream about another woman, my wife is actually my dream girl..har har har aren't I punny?

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:09 PM

MSB


Oh I think we have a few college students around...

You're way past my grade level..I teach junior high 7-9th grade:)

Good to see someone taking studying seriously though:)

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:03 PM

DANCINGNEKO


Breakfast? Did someone say breakfast?

've found that I can't function without breaking fast...otherwise I'm tired, dragging, and easily cranky.

I don't mind too much about the lack of variety of my breakfasts when I make 'em, since it's something I like eating and it's easy to make when I'm still a walking zombie...

(Sorry for being a bit slow on responding...)

Zeek: It wasn't a real LDR...but more of a friendship that could become more if one of moved to where the other was (in a year or five)...and with everything going on, I was considering reducing the timeline to sometime this year...

MsB: :P' I gotta introduce you to some of my ex's...then you'd see why I'm so critical... :P' (Edited: Apparently I'm right again...my taste in men SUCKS... 'scuse me while I go and bury myself.)

Ugh...accrediation meeting today and "lucky me," I got to be one of those being asked about the school... Wish I had been mean, bitter, and nasty enough to list some my big issues with where I work, but since I don't want to burn the bridge I'm standing on, I think my answers were "nice" enough.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:07 PM

AVENGINGWATCHER


Well it's about time I did :p My wife would kill me if I didn't do well. My mother in law is a teacher in Texas, my uncle is a teacher, my best friends wife is a teacher, some of my teachers are friends. I didn't say I took studies seriously though, I like school, but I just got lucky and wound up with an ability to learn extraordinarily fast because I break everything into patterns and logical systems, that and I have some bipolar moments, sometimes it takes a lot for me just to get to school because I get so sad and it is painful to be around people and other times I can't sleep for days. Blessing and a curse,it isn't so bad if I can keep myself busy, but like I said I'm "gifted" so I can bored easily and have to take on extra projects or tutor other students to keep myself sane. I'd love to teach but I get so sick of administration and politicians telling teachers what to teach....it really perturbs me to say the least.

Neko, you sound an awful lot like my ex and I know what she goes through so I feel for you( Just remembered shes a teacher too...damn how many teachers do I know?)Hey if it makes you feel any better you could bludgeon me. My wife already toughened me up so I can take it ;)Oh yeah and the problem with men is that we tend to think like men and women think like women... it's kinda like how sometimes you gotta rip off that ground prong to make it fit in the two prong, so I guess what I am saying is ermmm...rip his prong off;)

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

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