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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Recently Charlize has been giving interviews about how she has always been stoned out of her gourd, and then oblivious about why she kept getting replaced in roles she was already cast in.
I did enjoy her in 2 Days in The Valley, and can understand she might need to be stoned to strut around in all those skimpy outfits, but now that I understand that she's been addicted all these years makes more sense about why she hasn't been more successful.

I'm kinda hoping that this film will help me forget all of her woeful whining enough to enjoy it.
SGG, did any of this distract you during your viewing?

IIRC The Berlin Wall was opened in Nov 1989, and disassembled from June 1990 to 1992.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Weed isn't really a drug.

Take it from somebody who knows a thing or two about addiction.

I've easily stopped using it twice now for years at a time.

Booze is much harder, and cigarettes are damn near impossible.

Hell... even coffee is a hell of a lot harder to quit.


If she was actually losing track of her roles, it wasn't because of weed. She either had a drinking problem or was doing some other drugs that she hasn't confessed to.

I maintained two very good jobs for years while smoking weed regularly, and I know quite a few successful people personally who partake.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You obviously never did it.

It's okay. Everybody talks about something they don't know anything about. This happens to be your thing.

They're finally legalizing it now, so get used to it.


EDIT: BTW... I never denied my addictive personality. Not only have I had quite a lot of experience with illicit and legal substance abuse, but I've known quite a few other people who have. A lot of them are either dead now or in prison. I consider myself somewhat of a "street smart" expert on the subject, if for no other reason that I'm still alive and "free" to tell the tales.

Spend some time around people who use things like heroin or meth, and then tell me that weed is any more of a drug than coffee or cigarettes.

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Spend some time around people who use things like heroin or meth, and then tell me that weed is any more of a drug than coffee or cigarettes.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You obviously never did it.

It's okay. Everybody talks about something they don't know anything about. This happens to be your thing.

They're finally legalizing it now, so get used to it.


EDIT: BTW... I never denied my addictive personality. Not only have I had quite a lot of experience with illicit and legal substance abuse, but I've known quite a few other people who have. A lot of them are either dead now or in prison. I consider myself somewhat of a "street smart" expert on the subject, if for no other reason that I'm still alive and "free" to tell the tales.

Spend some time around people who use things like heroin or meth, and then tell me that weed is any more of a drug than coffee or cigarettes.

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I'm not sure if facts will penetrate your belief system, but here are a few items to consider:
I grew up near Madison, WI - which has had weed legal to possess since April 1977. The annual weed celebrations include Weedstock, Mifflin Street Block Party (known for the brownies), and Harvest Fest (with the parade on the pedestrian mall of State Street, passing out free baggies).

The study which detailed the effects and dosages of pot was conducted by the University of Wisconsin - Madison. IIRC the year was something like 1973.

I suspect one of us knows more about pot than the other one.

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Spend some time around people who use things like heroin or meth, and then tell me that weed is any more of a drug than coffee or cigarettes.

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There are still people in this world that believe:

-Pot is a dangerous drug
-That pot leads to other drugs such as heroin or meth
-And that it should be put on equal footing with the illicit drugs

It is legal in a lot of states; it is not a dangerous drug; there are people with addictive personalities that abuse "hard" drugs without having touched pot.

Quiet as it's kept, it is not habit forming. I smoked it on and off for many years and here I am NOT addicted to anything other than coffee, if you could call it an addiction. So, if there's anyone still thinking 'that' way, well set them straight.

By the way, the AG Sessions is cracking down mightily on marijuana and all peoples either buying, selling, using or what have you regardless if it is legal or not. This is the guy who said that he felt the KKK was fine until he learned that they smoked pot. Trump sure knows how to pick 'em.

Ah, this country...full of "surprises."


SGG

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
There are still people in this world that believe:

-Pot is a dangerous drug

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It is legal in a lot of states

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there are people with addictive personalities that abuse "hard" drugs without having touched pot.

Ah, this country...full of "surprises."

SGG

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Gotta love it when somebody who is against weed thinks that everybody that is for it is a big Obama idiot.

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Originally posted by Moose:
Umm...errr...looks good! I'll probably catch it when it hits Redbox.

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There are still people in this world that believe:

-Pot is a dangerous drug

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While pot addicts continue to deny the facts that it is.

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While pot addicts continue to deny the fact that it is.

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put down the joint and step away from the pot, check your dictionary and try to fit your thinking cap back on. Illicit means forbidden by Law, and pot is forbidden by Federal Law - despite what your surreal version of your surroundings indicates. It IS an illicit drug, not a separate category.

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Except States in The United States of America - where pot remains against Federal Law unless on Sovereign Nation (such as Native Americans) or medical use with a prescription by a Doctor of Medicine. Whichever of the 58 States of America you and your fellow Obamapotheads are exempted from Federal Law, you could specify - State of Baja? State of Islam? State of Denial? State of Somnambulance? State of Delusion?

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it is not a dangerous drug;

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Are you in denial that pot is an immuno-suppressant?
Are you in denial that pot is an immuno-depressant?
Are you in denial that anything more than "casual use" can cause permanent damage to the immune system, producing "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome"?
Are you proclaiming that you have not the slightest clue about what the difference is between "casual use" and "abuse"?
Are you in denial regarding the relationship between pot and birth defects?
Are you in denial that BIRTH DEFECTS can produce an ENTIRE LIFETIME of pain, suffering, health problems and danger?

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there are people with addictive personalities that abuse "hard" drugs without having touched pot.

Ah, this country...full of "surprises."

SGG

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Only surprising to those in denial.

I did mention the Harvest Fest. Never in my whole life have I seen a larger parade of Down's Syndrome kids than the annual Harvest Fest Parades, where the pot moms can't get others to watch over their Down's Syndrome kids, so they are dragged the length of State Street during the parade. Other than this parade, I have found that Down's Syndrome kids are largely a rarity. It remains likely that the pot moms were still so clouded in their attempts at thought that they did not realize the demonstration they were providing, due to their denials to themselves.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I have to say that you bring up the strangest topics in the strangest ways.
I don't give a sh.......I don't care about pot; whether it's legal or not, whether it's habit forming or not, nada, zip, zilch!

But, like I said, don't give a rat's ass about it no how, no way. And that's all I have to say about that. Let's go back to talking about the movie, shall we hmmmmm.

SGG

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I like in the trailer she doesn't just mow through those guys like they're nothing. She takes her share of hits as well.

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Originally posted by Moose:
Fight scenes look to be great. I like in the trailer she doesn't just mow through those guys like they're nothing. She takes her share of hits as well.

So, with her around, can they stop saying that James Bond needs to be a woman?

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Originally posted by Moose:
Ya think?

Just found out it'll be playing at my local drive in this weekend, just might give it a shot.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Didn't mean to be too harsh, I just thought we got away from the topic.

SGG

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Gotta love it when somebody who is against weed thinks that everybody that is for it is a big Obama idiot.

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Are you saying that there are some potheads who don't support the first self-admitted pot and cocaine dealer to become President?

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Gotta love it when somebody who is against weed thinks that everybody that is for it is a big Obama idiot.

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Are you saying that there are some potheads who don't support the first self-admitted pot and cocaine dealer to become President?

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I'm not saying that at all. I'm sure there were many that did.

If you think that there aren't plenty of successful people out there that smoke pot though, you're wrong. And if you think that only Democrats smoke pot, you're wrong.


It's hard to explain the appeal of pot to somebody who has never smoked it before. I've never seen a movie that even came close to accurately representing it. Also, although you can't OD on pot, you can definately overuse it just like many legal products out there that aren't even drugs. (ie: food)

Save the first two or three times you try it, there isn't even any altered state of consciousness. It's just a nice feeling. I used everyday for 12 years until I had to quit in case a real job came along that I didn't want to risk because of what is essentially unconstitutional pre-job drug testing.

Personally, I wasn't any good at a job while smoking because I could occasionally get a bit paranoid, so I never smoked before or at work. For me it was just a nice way to unwind at the end of the day. I didn't come home and roll a huge blunt and get stoned out of my mind like Snoop Dogg. I had a hitter bat or a small pipe and occasionally took a hit. An ounce typically lasted me about 2 months. In those 12 years I only drank socially. It wasn't until I quit smoking pot that I became a dumb drunk.

Financially speaking alone, that 2-month ounce ran me about 60 bucks. When I was drinking my heaviest, I was spending over $300/month on beer. That's not even mentioning the insane damage I caused my body while over-indulging in a completely legal substance.

All I'm saying is that it's not this evil thing you're making it out to be.

As to my original point, unless she was smoking an ounce or two a day, Charleze was lying about the reason she was forgetting she was in a movie. Even at that level of consumption since the tolerance would be built up so much more at that point I doubt that she wasn't also drinking or doing some other drugs at the same time.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Are you saying overuse of food can permanently damage your immune system? What food?

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I did find it curious that there was no male nudity (IIRC), but both Theron and Boutella plus some random playmates have numerous scenes. For a film with a female lead character.

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Are you saying overuse of food can permanently damage your immune system? What food?

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Are you just trolling me now? I wrote an entire page and that's what you got from it?

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You're going to have to show multiple cites on that one. I've heard many alleged negatives about it by people against it over the years but I've never heard this one before.

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Are you saying overuse of food can permanently damage your immune system? What food?

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Are you just trolling me now? I wrote an entire page and that's what you got from it?

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you built up your house of cards argument upon a flimsy foundation of fiction. I was questioning if that was the foundation you intended, and how you got it wrong. All the rest that follows, logically, from a faulty premise, is logically irrelevant until a sturdy foundation is obtained.

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No. That's not what I'm saying.

Overeating can have many serious health issues, and you already know that. Especially overeating the wrong foods which are unfortunately usually the cheapest. I have a hard time even believing that we can classify half of the stuff they sell in grocery stores and fast food joints as "food" anymore. I don't think "consumables" is even an appropriate word for it.

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You said food, and I asked about your assertion of food. Nobody said that the poisons, pesticides, carcinogens, phenyls, High Fructose Corn Syrup, or other fake sweeteners are considered food.

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Weed doesn't permanently damage your immune system.

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OK. Now we have identified the problem - you are in denial. You have not the most basic comprehension of the fundamental properties of pot, nor likely any form of medication.

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You're going to have to show multiple cites on that one. I've heard many alleged negatives about it by people against it over the years but I've never heard this one before.

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How about you provide cites of the research into pot use and abuse which indicate it cannot produce permanent damage to the immune system. UW-Madison already determined the dosages in the early 70's, and I have not heard of any contradictory research since then.

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