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2025 Wide Release Prediction Game Thread

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Sunday, February 23, 2025 10:08 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Sony Pictures Classics' Becoming Led Zeppelin grossed $2.75M this week (from 1,039 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $6.42M

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1893046796340928524



How Captain America: Brave New World’s Box Office Compares To MCU Flops

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/02/17/how-captain-america-
brave-new-worlds-box-office-compares-to-mcu-flops
/


however if it makes 10 bucks profit Marvel / Disney will class it was a 'win'?

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Sunday, February 23, 2025 1:29 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
How Captain America: Brave New World’s Box Office Compares To MCU Flops

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/02/17/how-captain-america-
brave-new-worlds-box-office-compares-to-mcu-flops
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however if it makes 10 bucks profit Marvel / Disney will class it was a 'win'?



Even at Forbes, they're so fucking disingenuous...

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So, it’s right in that range, and nearly twice as good as the lowest-performing MCU movie ever, The Marvels, which went on to only earn $206 million worldwide. But how does it compare to say, other Captain America movies?

Captain America: The First Avenger - $65 million opening weekend, earned $370 million total
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - $95 million opening, earned $714 million total
Captain America: Civil War - $179 million opening weekend, earned $1.1 billion total

So, it’s number three out of four there for openings.



Nah bitch. You work for Forbes for fuck's sake and you don't know what inflation is?

I already broke those numbers down here, unpaid. It must be nice to be able to write whatever you want and never be fact checked while collecting that bi-weekly severe over-payment for your "services". Dust up that resume. AI will be doing your job soon, and a much better job at that.

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If its trajectory continues compared to these other Captain America movies, it could end up earning perhaps $600+ million,


It didn't. It won't gross $450 Million.

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though that assumes word-of-mouth is good enough to carry it further from here


Don't assume, or you make an ass out of Ume.

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which may not be the case judging by its Cinemascore.


So you did notice the lowest MCU Cinemascore of all time too, although you fail to actually mention that in your article, didn't you?

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That level of performance, however, would proably be considered at least some level of a success compared to recent Marvel underperformers (then we have Deadpool and Wolverine’s $1.3 billion, of course).


Yeah. $600+ Million would have been considered a success when you needed $450 Million to break even.

Congratulations. That's how math works.


Fortunately for the world, we don't even get to argue about whether or not this was a massive failure now. It clearly is after the 2nd weekend drop and nobody is going to be able to defend it.

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Wednesday, March 5, 2025 12:21 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


perhaps they soon can have profits?

Box Office: Bong Joon Ho and Robert Pattinson’s ‘Mickey 17’ Targets $20 Million Domestic Debut; Internationally, $20 million to $25 million from 66 Territories for A Global Start of $40 to $45 million

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/mickey-17-box-office-bong-joo
n-ho-robert-pattinson-opening-weekend-projection-1236327328
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Wednesday, March 5, 2025 5:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The 2025 Box Office is so pathetic that even Bruce got bored.

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2025


He hasn't updated the top 100 movies for 2025 page in weeks.



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Thursday, March 6, 2025 3:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Wow the numbers for 2025 are truly shocking and so many foreign films



box office numbers discussed


https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32982-captain-america-brave-n
ew-world/page/3/#comments



Estimated totals through Sunday for Captain America: Brave New World by international market include:

U.K. - $19.8M
China - $14.2M
Mexico - $13.1M
France - $11.5M
S. Korea - $10.7M
Brazil - $7.5M
Germany - $7.1M
Australia - $7.0M
Japan - $6.7M
Italy - $5.8M
Spain - $5.5M
https://twitter.com/BORReport/status/1896233588548592046?ref_src=twsrc
%5Etfw

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 2:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. Gotta love articles calling "Brave New World" a "Three-Peat" for winning 3 weekends in a row.

Nobody mentions that the game they were playing was Solitaire.

Nor do they mention that the price to get in the game was $450 Million and the maximum payout for winning is only $400 Million.



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Monday, March 10, 2025 7:44 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


its not completely over for Hollyweird they seem to be still scouting and getting foriegn directors who might make money for them

Mickey 17 is expected to win in Australia

but there is a danger SKorea itself could push Hollyweirdos out of the international market if they have continued success at home and have no desire to be part of the weird tinseltown Commiefornia culture

Hollywood doesnt lure and seduce overseas talent like it used to, maybe people are seeing past the illusion

‘Train To Busan’ Director Yeon Sang-ho Unveils Cast For New Zombie Film ‘Gunche’
https://deadline.com/2025/03/train-to-busan-director-yeon-sang-ho-unve
ils-cast-zombie-film-gunche-1236313724
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Monday, March 10, 2025 1:48 PM

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but there is a danger SKorea itself could push Hollyweirdos out of the international market if they have continued success at home and have no desire to be part of the weird tinseltown Commiefornia culture



I dunno. Today I'm hearing from a couple of people that Mickey 17 is a anti-Trump rant. I can't watch the videos to see why they say this, because I don't want spoilers to the movie.

I don't know if I believe them though because I feel like at this point some people are going to see everything that comes out as either pro-Trump or anti-Trump no matter what their politics are.

I was just telling my old man that we probably wanted to watch that one. We'd just watched Snowpiercer a while back (under the assumption that it was a sequel to Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory), and we enjoyed it. Then I get an email titled "Too bad" this morning from him with a scathing review.

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Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:10 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Mickey 17 could have staying power but not sure if it can make money

but the Hollyweirdo 'message' and general political divide will kill movie experiences

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Wednesday, March 12, 2025 2:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Mickey 17 could have staying power but not sure if it can make money

but the Hollyweirdo 'message' and general political divide will kill movie experiences



I could have gotten past media messaging and at least given this one a shot, but then I found out Mark Ruffolo is in it. That's a deal breaker.

There's some actors out there I can still suspend disbelief and see whoever they're playing, but not Mark. He's a shitty actor.

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Thursday, March 13, 2025 5:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


inide maybe

and the sequels will be the Birds, Cats and Goldfish

'Good Boy' Review: Horror Movie Told from the Dog's Point of View and One of the Best of the Year So Far
https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/movies/good-boy-movie-horror-movie
-review-dog-pov-1235102488
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Thursday, March 13, 2025 5:34 PM

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Good post.

I don't think I ever would have even known about this one if you didn't post it.

One of my least favorite genre's, but I'm always up for watching something new.

I didn't do more than skim the article because I don't want to ruin the movie, but it appears that they didn't do a "Look Who's Talking Now" thing here and have John Travolta narrating the dog. I would not be interested in this movie if you hear the dog's thoughts in English.

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 3:14 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Wow the Hollyweirdos they just gave it all the kiss of death

2025 will be even worse than expected?

‘Mickey 17’ Digital Release
https://www.whentostream.com/news/mickey-17-digital-streaming-release-
date-revealed

18 Days After Theatrical Debut

another flop Novocaine...maybe not it has a reported Budget of $18 million...so does that qualify in the 'indie' thread where the first post was to cap it at $15-16 Million?

‘Novocaine’ With $8M+ Leads Lowest-Grossing Weekend Of 2025 To Date
https://deadline.com/2025/03/box-office-novocaine-1236326472/

if you can't turn profit anymore on a 18 Million Dollar movie that some people watch...it means Hollywood is over


now if only ‘Novocaine’ got a fraction of Captain America Brave New World 2025 numbers, it could have been a huge hit...

...maybe people have movie fatigue again

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Iron-Ma
n-3/Novocaine-(2025)/Captain-America-Brave-New-World-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

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Sunday, March 16, 2025 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
another flop Novocaine...maybe not it has a reported Budget of $18 million...so does that qualify in the 'indie' thread where the first post was to cap it at $15-16 Million?



We've been through 4 years of Bidenflation. I'll allow it.



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Wednesday, March 19, 2025 7:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Paramount's Novocaine grossed $1.19M on Tuesday (from 3,365 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $10.74M

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1902428692774842712

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Thursday, March 20, 2025 9:46 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


a dual citizen Mayor pushes his religious sandbox politics
the USA isn't an Israeli Police State yet and its not the jihad Middle East so...

Streisand effect idiots

ban something and create hype making it all more popular

Miami Beach Mayor Drops Plan to Evict O Cinema After ‘No Other Land’ Controversy

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/miami-beach-mayor-drops-plan-evict-
o-cinema-no-other-land-1236342491
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Thursday, March 20, 2025 1:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
a dual citizen Mayor pushes his religious sandbox politics
the USA isn't an Israeli Police State yet and its not the jihad Middle East so...

Streisand effect idiots

ban something and create hype making it all more popular

Miami Beach Mayor Drops Plan to Evict O Cinema After ‘No Other Land’ Controversy

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/miami-beach-mayor-drops-plan-evict-
o-cinema-no-other-land-1236342491/



They don't get to do whatever they want when the taxpayers are paying for it to exist.

This theater will be shut down if it doesn't cease showing nothing but Anti-American propaganda.

It could never exist on its own merits. It would go out of business by the end of the month if it wasn't taxpayer funded.

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Wednesday, March 26, 2025 6:57 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


the political culture of the sandbox infecting USA life and Art and Freedoms?

Palestinian director of Oscar-winner No Other Land attacked by Israeli settlers and detained
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/hamdan-bal
lal-no-other-land-israel-palestine-yuval-abraham-b2720917.html



this time 'Greatest Ally' and a dumbass Mayor might have pulled the wrong move with that censorship crap



meanwhile the entertaining world moves on


The internets and entertaining became a balkanized 'folk' thing

its over, young people choose their own path of entertainment after being spoon fed garbage for years from a small bunch of trashy entertainment companies

In Warning Sign for Hollywood, Younger Consumers Are Choosing Creator Content Over Premium TV and Movies
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/deloitte-gen-
z-creator-content-streaming-price-1236171227
/



anyways it looks like I was 'wrong' its even worse than I predict

I thought maybe just maybe by the end of March Hollyweird should have one hit where it takes in the Millions
but it has NOTHING

meanwhile on the international markets Spanish, Japanese, SKorean and even Russian remakes after knocking it back

..its over they can give their crap awards to dumb transexual political DEI movies nobody watches at the Oscars
Hollyweird is finally finished

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Thursday, March 27, 2025 5:41 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Will it drop below 50% ...this year they are really getting their ass kicked
Hollyweird done? LA is ash

maybe its time to back the indie guys again, even something silly FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S let independent films make you money
and stop trashing them as Alt-Right or 'Deplorables'

The global market share of American films has declined from 85% to 69% over the past 10 years.
https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOGN1403Z0U5A310C2000000/

if you chop that 69% in half we get

34.5% ...which seems about right for this disastrous year for Hollyweird...maybe it can get even worse

its getting beat by Japan Anime, China movies, Spanish movies, Russian remakes and South Korea film on the international stage
Bollywood films will probably knock a few Hollyweirdo films down



there might be two other stories here, HongKong film actually holding steady with a slight rise and France crashing – 4.5% down to France – 1.5% the French film industry seems over.


DEI transsexual Hollywood diversity stuff is not selling, the world rejects it, most of the world is somewhat religious or political 'Conservative' and Japan and (mainly) China rejecting new 'agenda' US films to such a large degree


Hollyweird budgets are out of control, the Japanese show you can make a blockbsuter on the cheap
Godzilla minus one made 11.5 times it's production budget


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Thursday, April 3, 2025 9:39 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


so its April, worse than I predicted and no big hits

International Disruptors: Toei President & CEO Fumio Yoshimura Unpacks Japanese Studio’s $2BN Global Expansion Strategy
https://deadline.com/2025/04/toei-co-fumio-yoshimura-global-expansion-
strategy-1236355792
/


a shit Hollyweird film nobody watched

David Fincher to Direct 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' Netflix Sequel
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/david-fincher-direct-once-upon-a-ti
me-in-hollywood-sequel-1236354356
/


blame Trump?

Global film and TV industry braces for expansion of Trump trade war
https://www.screendaily.com/news/global-film-and-tv-industry-braces-fo
r-expansion-of-trump-trade-war/5203589.article

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Thursday, April 3, 2025 3:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm really interested to see this Minecraft movie play out.

I have absolutely zero expectations or predictions for it. I don't really know if the media does either since I've seen projections from $600 Million to over $1 Billion worldwide.


I'm really not so sure of that though...

What is the underlying "story" of Minecraft? I never played it, but it's been big enough for long enough for me to have heard about it over the years.

I think it's really nothing more than a few highly-addictive yet simple gameplay loops, and if there is any real story associated with it, it's just a bare-bones deal. People weren't playing this game for a decade because of the story. It was those addictive loops that brought a steady stream of low-dose dopamine hits that kept people coming back for more. I could tell that was the case just from watching a little bit of gameplay here or there and I stayed FAR away from it because even though it appealed mostly to kids I could easily see myself getting trapped in those gameplay loops like I've done before in games like Torchlight II, where I played several hundred hours beyond finishing the "story" and just literally KILLING time by upgrading things that didn't need to be upgraded anymore and trying to 100% a game that would have taken me another 400 hours to complete if I didn't somehow break free of the loop and the Sunk Cost Fallacy that I had to overcome to leave after wasting all that time.

But kind of like the Borderlands movie, I think this one is just coming out way too late. I'm pretty sure a lot of the kids that grew up playing Minecraft have moved on to bigger and better games by now. More mature content with better graphics and an edgy backdrop, but full of new-and-improved addictive gameplay loops.

I'd say that most of the people who played Minecraft enough to want to see this movie are also not old enough yet to really have any kids old enough to want to see this in the theater yet, so it's also coming out too early at the same time. They won't be getting any Nostalgia bump from adults out of it.


I'd guess that anybody saying this movie is going to make a Billion or more is just nuts.

Forbes: ‘Minecraft’ Movie Reviews Are In, And A Billion Dollar Haul Is Nigh

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/04/03/minecraft-movie-revi
ews-are-in-and-a-billion-dollar-haul-is-nigh
/



And I'm wondering if it can actually make the low-end predictions of $600 Million that I'm seeing too.

Everybody in the world knows who the Mario Bros. are, and that movie made $1.36 Billion a few years back. Who would you even know besides maybe a teenage or 20-something nephew who could name a single character in Minecraft. (Assuming that named characters are even a thing in this game).


There's no way that it's going to do Borderlands levels of bad. Not even close to that.

But can it justify the $150 Million budget?

$375 Million to break even.

It's far less than the lowest worldwide predictions I've seen out there, so unless everybody has just lost the ability to predict which way the wind is blowing on everything in 2025 entirely, I think it should at least make $375 Million without any problems.


Variety is predicting $65 Million opener here and $135-$150 worldwide opening.

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/a-minecraft-movie-box-office-openin
g-weekend-projection-1236354645
/

That is nowhere NEAR the territory you need to get $1 Billion.

Dune 2 made $182.5 million on opening weekend. That ended up making $714 Million worldwide.

Super Mario Bros. made $375 million on opening weekend. That ended up making $1.359 Billion.

Ya see... There's patterns here you can figure out pretty easily when looking at something long enough...

Dune 2 made roughly half of what SMB made on opening weekend, and it finished off roughly with half of the worldwide box office that SMB got.

Now that isn't always going to be the case with external factors and the chaos of life always at play, but if Variety's call of $150 Million on their high-end comes true, you're looking ultimately at a worldwide box office under $600 Million, though well above $500 Million.




My final guess after mulling it over here is $500 Million worldwide.

In normal times I'd say that WB should be quite happy with that profit, but these aren't normal times and they're going to need a lot more money on their hits than this would give.

Maybe I'm reading the room entirely wrong and this thing ends up doing way better than I'd ever predict it would.

I guess we'll know more in a few days.

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Friday, April 4, 2025 6:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


So its April and your typical Hollyweird action 'block buster' big studio film can barely move past 50 Million ...Hollywood is dead?

Budgets can be as high as 250 Million, sometimes they even spend billion on combined production projects, big overseas companies like Sony might also suffer

One of Them Days $50 million, Paddington in Peru $45 million,
Death of a Unicorn $5 million!
Mickey 17 Warner Bros $44 million, The Monkey $39 million, Den of Thieves 2 Pantera Lionsgate $36 million, Heart Eyes $30 million,
The Last Showgirl $4 million, Wolf Man Universal $20 million, Novocaine Paramount $19 million
compared to the other crap is the Disney/Marvel hit on Captain America that bad

however there is worse, last years comicbook flops...Snow White seems terrible


Overseas

Japan Box Office
Wknd 28-30 ( Spring Break )
https://x.com/Franspeech/status/1906349369227452572#m
1 #Doraemon44 $2.7M/$19.35M (+16%)
2 #Wicked $1.6M/$14.8M ( -10%)
3 #Mickey17 $800K
4 #SnowWhite $720K /$3.8M (42%)
5 #Yamada999_movie $600K

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Friday, April 4, 2025 8:15 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
So its April and your typical Hollyweird action 'block buster' big studio film can barely move past 50 Million ...Hollywood is dead?

Theater ticket sales are shrinking because of streaming.

Zoe Saldaña Shows Off ‘Avatar: Fire And Ash’ At Disney’s CinemaCon

By Anthony D'Alessandro, Nancy Tartaglione | April 3, 2025 4:11pm

https://deadline.com/2025/04/avatar-fire-and-ash-first-look-1236358731/

The box office year has been sluggish, but if one movie is going to bring the industry back alive it’s James Cameron‘s Avatar: Fire and Ash on December 19.

In a taped message before Zoe Saldaña took the stage at the Las Vegas confab, Cameron said “I’m in New Zealand finishing up Avatar: Fire and Ash. I think we can agree that’s a good use of my time since this sucker’s coming at us like a freight train.”

“I hope this film can provide a shot in the arm of theater owners because we are still struggling with the one-two punch of the pandemic and streaming.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, April 4, 2025 6:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm really interested to see this Minecraft movie play out.

I have absolutely zero expectations or predictions for it. I don't really know if the media does either since I've seen projections from $600 Million to over $1 Billion worldwide.


I'm really not so sure of that though...

What is the underlying "story" of Minecraft? I never played it, but it's been big enough for long enough for me to have heard about it over the years.

I think it's really nothing more than a few highly-addictive yet simple gameplay loops, and if there is any real story associated with it, it's just a bare-bones deal. People weren't playing this game for a decade because of the story. It was those addictive loops that brought a steady stream of low-dose dopamine hits that kept people coming back for more. I could tell that was the case just from watching a little bit of gameplay here or there and I stayed FAR away from it because even though it appealed mostly to kids I could easily see myself getting trapped in those gameplay loops like I've done before in games like Torchlight II, where I played several hundred hours beyond finishing the "story" and just literally KILLING time by upgrading things that didn't need to be upgraded anymore and trying to 100% a game that would have taken me another 400 hours to complete if I didn't somehow break free of the loop and the Sunk Cost Fallacy that I had to overcome to leave after wasting all that time.

But kind of like the Borderlands movie, I think this one is just coming out way too late. I'm pretty sure a lot of the kids that grew up playing Minecraft have moved on to bigger and better games by now. More mature content with better graphics and an edgy backdrop, but full of new-and-improved addictive gameplay loops.

I'd say that most of the people who played Minecraft enough to want to see this movie are also not old enough yet to really have any kids old enough to want to see this in the theater yet, so it's also coming out too early at the same time. They won't be getting any Nostalgia bump from adults out of it.


I'd guess that anybody saying this movie is going to make a Billion or more is just nuts.

Forbes: ‘Minecraft’ Movie Reviews Are In, And A Billion Dollar Haul Is Nigh

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/04/03/minecraft-movie-revi
ews-are-in-and-a-billion-dollar-haul-is-nigh
/



And I'm wondering if it can actually make the low-end predictions of $600 Million that I'm seeing too.

Everybody in the world knows who the Mario Bros. are, and that movie made $1.36 Billion a few years back. Who would you even know besides maybe a teenage or 20-something nephew who could name a single character in Minecraft. (Assuming that named characters are even a thing in this game).


There's no way that it's going to do Borderlands levels of bad. Not even close to that.

But can it justify the $150 Million budget?

$375 Million to break even.

It's far less than the lowest worldwide predictions I've seen out there, so unless everybody has just lost the ability to predict which way the wind is blowing on everything in 2025 entirely, I think it should at least make $375 Million without any problems.


Variety is predicting $65 Million opener here and $135-$150 worldwide opening.

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/a-minecraft-movie-box-office-openin
g-weekend-projection-1236354645
/

That is nowhere NEAR the territory you need to get $1 Billion.

Dune 2 made $182.5 million on opening weekend. That ended up making $714 Million worldwide.

Super Mario Bros. made $375 million on opening weekend. That ended up making $1.359 Billion.

Ya see... There's patterns here you can figure out pretty easily when looking at something long enough...

Dune 2 made roughly half of what SMB made on opening weekend, and it finished off roughly with half of the worldwide box office that SMB got.

Now that isn't always going to be the case with external factors and the chaos of life always at play, but if Variety's call of $150 Million on their high-end comes true, you're looking ultimately at a worldwide box office under $600 Million, though well above $500 Million.




My final guess after mulling it over here is $500 Million worldwide.

In normal times I'd say that WB should be quite happy with that profit, but these aren't normal times and they're going to need a lot more money on their hits than this would give.

Maybe I'm reading the room entirely wrong and this thing ends up doing way better than I'd ever predict it would.

I guess we'll know more in a few days.

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Well... It had a pretty sweet preview Thursday. At least in 2025 terms.

$10.55 Million. Compare that to the few other "notable" releases this year. Working Man made $1.1 Million. Micky 17 made $2.5 Million. Snow White had $3.5 Million.


But keep in mind...Blacktain Anti-America got $12 Million on Preview Thursday and it's currently sitting at $409 Million and losing at least $30-$35 Million for Disney by the time it's out of theaters.

We'll see what happens this weekend, but right now if it were only the Preview Thursday numbers to go by as well as everything I put in my post last night, I'd say that my $500 Million semi-prediction was pretty sound.



I don't know though...

I hear it's a Musical. Or at least a semi-musical.

Unless there's an entire generation of 20 somethings out there that want to dance and sing along with Aquaman and the formerly funny half of Tenacious D, I don't know what the hell they're thinking there.

Like I said in my previous post, I don't believe the game had much of a story and was just a latticework of highly addictive gameplay loops. Likely with some sort of Borderlands II/Torchlight II never-ending progression system tied to crafting the materials you collect from doing hours and hours of pointless button pressing.

How would you make a movie out of this? I'm sure there were a lot of ways to do it that didn't involve singing and dancing.

Maybe little kids still play it and they really made a large budget family movie meant for pre-teens.



At the end of the day I still really don't know how this one will go at all. $10 Million plus on Preview Thursday is actually REALLY good if this is just a movie made for little kids. But who knows? That could have been a bunch of teens and twenty somethings that really still had a nostalgic place in their heart for this game and went to see it anyway. That's good for opening weekend, but if this thing gets a bad cinemascore because it comes off as too childish for what the target demographic would have been looking for, they'd better hope a lot of younger kids are still playing it and want to see it this weekend.


Part of me wants to lower the prediction to only $450 Million.

But another part of me wants to up it to $650.


I think that is PROBABLY our window. I'd give it a 90% chance it falls between them.

But this could end up being another Barbieheimer situation for me. I never said that either of them would flop or that they wouldn't even be successful, but I did say that Barbie wouldn't break $1 Billion and that Oppenheimer wouldn't come anywhere close. That combo-prediction was the worst one that I've ever made.


Until the weekend numbers come out, I've got to cast a pretty wide net and make my guess for final worldwide gross between $450 and $650 Million on this one.


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Friday, April 4, 2025 6:39 PM

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Rotten Tomatoes isn't any help in making a prediction here...

The societal shift that's taken place still has me wondering how perceptions and narratives morph into other things and I think we're all in transitory limbo on that front right now. Uncertainty everywhere means large scale changes in behavioral patterns, from the individual right on up to the world's largest corporation and governments.

And that includes movies and movie reviews, somewhere in between.

So there currently is no "Top Critics" differentiation on Minecraft, but out of 103 "All Critics" reviews, it comes in at only 48%. And this number means next to nothing to me right now because I don't think the usual assumptions about where the critics are coming from should necessarily be applied in these current reviews.

The interesting thing to me is the difference between the "All Audience" and "Verified Audience" scores.

There is none.

83% from 500+ verified audience, and 80% from 2,500+ all audience.

I don't see that very often.

What this suggests to me is that there is an extremely high likelihood that virtually all of these audience reviews are genuine and there hasn't been any review bombing or artificial propping up going on here.

My new Rotten Tomatoes review assumptions are that the more politically charged and polarizing the movie, the larger the gap in the two audience scores would be. I haven't studied it, but without investigating I would assume that the more left-leaning the movie is the higher the Verified Audience score is, and the more sane the movie is, the lower the Verified audience score is. And vice versa.

Not an amazing score in the low 80s, but you could do a lot worse than that.

I'm interested to see what it makes this weekend.

I haven't heard nothing bad about this. And Jack Black has taken quite a few lumps in real life and in the box office and seems to be keeping his political opinions to himself these days, so I'm not going to root for it to fail on his account. I've been a fan of his since before he was on Mr. Show with Bob and Dave. One of the rare one-off X-Files episodes I can still recall was starring Black, and if memory serves he was in a cool Bruce Willis movie called The Jackal too. If it's the movie I'm thinking of, he gets one of his arms blown off while holding a target. A darkly funny scene, whatever summer blockbuster movie I saw more than half a lifetime ago I'm drawing out that memory from.

....

Wait. No. CIGARETTES!

Yeah. Jack Black holding up a pack of cigarettes like somebody putting an apple on their head for an archer. Only this gun was the BFG from DOOM and I think Jack lost his arm up to the elbow.


I hope for a turnaround for you Jack. I ain't mad at'cha.

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Saturday, April 5, 2025 6:52 AM

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they say Minecraft does good but who knows, you have the whole staying power thing and overseas and it will get more competitive as the longer Summer days approach...but maybe this one makes them money. I thought Hollyweird would have at least one big money movie, a box office hit by March but I was wrong.

the economy also starts to suck, so there's that. Idiotic politics entertaining on the tv and World economic uncertainty also.

the new SnowWhite is dead, so it doesnt have many challengers

Mincraft seems to have a run unchallenged, next to take it on in the USA and Overseas The King of Kings 2025, The Legend of Ochi, The Wedding Banquet 2025 film, The Accountant 2, Havoc 2025 film...a bunch of other action or horror that probably should be out in Halloween or the darker winter months if they want to make cash... Thunderbolts will be out the very end of April or start of May

The Legend of Ochi makes money that was an easy prediction, it had a Super-Low budget of only $10 million bucks

compared with ridiculous Hollyweirdo money laundering budgets of 250+ Million

Thunderbolts*
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/30435-thunderbolts-may-2-2025
-mcu/page/57/#comments

the hype continues

Superman Overseas?
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32897-superman-july-2025/

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Disney’s Snow White flopped terribly: And here’s exactly why
https://thetab.com/2025/03/27/umm-disneys-snow-white-flopped-terribly-
and-heres-exactly-why


8 Reasons Why Rachel Zegler’s ‘Snow White’ Bombed at the Box Office
https://fandomwire.com/8-reasons-why-rachel-zeglers-snow-white-bombed-
at-the-box-office
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Quote:

From remake fatigue and controversies to massive budget issues and poor marketing


Joe Rogan reveals REAL reason Snow White flopped at the box office as he calls for shock DOGE investigation
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14565877/joe-rogan-snow-white
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Joe Rogan reveals REAL reason Snow White flopped at the box office as he calls for shock DOGE investigation
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14565877/joe-rogan-snow-white
-flop-rachel-zegler.html



Quote:

Joe Rogan suggested DOGE should investigate the makers of box office flop Snow White for managing to blow a $250million budget on a movie that looked terrible instead of blaming star Rachel Zegler.


I agree with the first half of that. I've even said a couple times already that Hollywood needs to be DOGEd.


It's time to cap actor pay. It's also time to cap athlete pay. No more million+ $ contracts for anyone.

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$58 Million on Friday. That's by far the highest number we've seen all year, and more money than most movies so far this year have made their entire run. Even if you subtract Preview Thursday it's still over $47 Million.

B+ Cinemascore. That leads me to believe it's not a musical like Joker 2 was even if it does have a few songs in it.

This one will make money.

We might not really know how much until we see the 2nd weekend drop.



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Sunday, April 6, 2025 5:26 AM

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film - 'A Minecraft Movie 2025' its running out of the gates stronger than new Captain America Brave New World...which might have flopped

Does Minecraft need a strong overseas and staying power for good profit?


I'll assume you are talking about Minecraft for anyone dropping in on this thread later

Mexico ($1.9M), Germany ($1.7M), Australia $1.1M maybe in Aussie cinema A$1.729M (90K admits)

157K admissions in France

'MinecraftLeFilm largement en tête des démarrages et du box-office du 02/04 avec un total 1er Jour France de 157.152 entrées sur 670 copies. C’est le meilleur démarrage de 2025'

https://x.com/boxofficefr/status/1907748530640269600

Warner Bros. & Legendary's A Minecraft Movie has grossed an estimated $52.7M internationally through Friday. Estimated global total through Friday stands at $110.7M.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1908538614910509074


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Yeah. I'm still on minecraft.

I've been giving the regular YouTubers shit about their low reviews and flop predictions on this one. This will be another time I was right and all the people who have made a living the last 5+ years with anti-woke channels have been wrong. If Hollywood starts doing right again, as I've said before, half of those channels won't exist within a year.

What I suspect happened here is that after almost a year with nothing to really talk about and view counters dropping, they got a huge influx of cash and a burst of adrenaline when Blacktain Anti-America and Snow Brown flopped back-to-back and they all got high off their own product. But their take on Minecraft is completely wrong, and that's probably scary to some of them. The two movies they were looking forward to come out to boost their channels are out and the noise has died down. What do they have to look forward to rally everyone against after those? I don't know of anything?

And now they're all backpedaling and just calling the audience idiots for going out to see "slop". Well, whether or not Minecraft is "slop", the audience always went out to see "slop". Most movies are pretty mid. But we've had a decade worth of mid movies and mid TV shows written, directed and produced by DEI cretins who filled in the lack of interesting characters and plot with race swaps and political agendas.

Take that shit out of the movies, and people will go see them again. A copy of Minecraft had leaked before release, and yet this will be by far the highest grossing movie so far this year worldwide. So just like they came out for Five Nights At Freddy's despite it being released the same day for viewing at home on Peacock, they came out for this even though the movie was already pirated in HD.

Warner made a movie for their target demographic and they should be very happy with the results. And with the very young kids absolutley loving this thing, they've got the ability now not only to turn this IP into a franchise of 2 or 3 more movies if they play their cards right, but they likely boosted the amount of young people interested in playing again and they could keep that game going for another 5 or 10 years if they make movies right in between.

Stop trying to make movies for Everyone. Nobody wants to see a movie that was made for Everyone.

You have built in audiences. Cater to them and you'll do great.

This guy gets it...





Oh... $157 Million now predicted for the US opening. Probably EASILY breaks $300 Million worldwide, which makes this a certified hit by making more than double the production budget on opening weekend. I already heard word that's it's doing crazy business in China.

Even without seeing the international numbers, I'd say my top-end prediction of $650 is looking pretty good right now. Could make even more than this if the interest stays high and it gets a proper run in theaters before getting yanked. And this could be the first time in a long while that the Chinese box office plays a factor in the end result.

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Sunday, April 6, 2025 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Stop trying to make movies for Everyone. Nobody wants to see a movie that was made for Everyone.

You have built in audiences. Cater to them and you'll do great.



Bruce concurs...

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/259050830-Weekend-projections-Minecra
ft-blasts-into-theaters-with-157-million-weekend


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Minecraft’s opening almost literally broke our model. On Friday, I confidently stated that “The $146 million earned by The Super Mario Bros. Movie back in 2023 is surely out of reach”. That was because it would need a massive 13.9 times multiplier from its previews to its final weekend box office, something not achieved by any comparable film. In the event, Warner Bros. is predicting a multiplier of 14.9. That’s driven by $60 million in ticket sales on Saturday, which is the 15th-best Saturday ever, and the best Saturday in history for the studio. With that kind of momentum, the film could still top the weekend projection of $157 million, which relies on $39 million in sales on Sunday. Other industry predictions I’ve seen this morning are settled around $155 million or so, but there’s still an upside possibility of $160 million.

Internationally, the film is also doing well, with $144 million projected for the weekend by Warner Bros.. That’s led by $19.9 million in the United Kingdom, $14.5 million in China, $11.2 million from Mexico, and $10.6 million in Germany.

In spite of the uncertainty around the broader economy going into the weekend, movie fans have packed theaters, and once again shown that success in this business is driven by one thing only: giving customers what they want.



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Monday, April 7, 2025 8:51 AM

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very like the Incredibles part 2 Run in box office

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Incredi
bles-2/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Mutant-Mayhem-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


other franvhise like Teenage Mutant Turtles didnt do so good in the past

the video game hype thing is here now

it will probably be the next 'thing' to make into movie material, will they ever give tha t gaming to movie stuff awards for Best Adapted Screenplay?

I think the bubble started to burst with Avengers, by the time Avengers Endgame came along the bubble had burst but many did not know it yet, Covid was a disaster a lot of gamer, comic book or 'graphic novel' stuff was gone maybe over-saturation of the superhero thing but then some comicbook and video game bounced back, the horror thing can do ok

New Mutants seemed to mark the death of the Xmen comic brand for a while but there have been some 'hits'

Incredibles 2 (2018) vs. A Minecraft Movie (2025) vs. The New Mutants (2020)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Incredi
bles-2/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)/New-Mutants-The-(2020)#tab=day_by_day_comparison



whatever they did they seem to have done it correct

Minecraft, storming the box office despite lukewarm reviews


Warner Bros Pictures is happy again, Disney/Marvel struggles


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Oh... $157 Million now predicted for the US opening. Probably EASILY breaks $300 Million worldwide, which makes this a certified hit by making more than double the production budget on opening weekend. I already heard word that's it's doing crazy business in China.

Even without seeing the international numbers, I'd say my top-end prediction of $650 is looking pretty good right now. Could make even more than this if the interest stays high and it gets a proper run in theaters before getting yanked. And this could be the first time in a long while that the Chinese box office plays a factor in the end result.



On the front page of the-numbers, the studio projections in the US have been raised to 163 Million, but that's not yet reflected in the box office page where it shows 157 Million still.

Looks as though their international projection is $150 Million because they've got $307 Million for opening weekend now. That will be $313 Million if the $6 Million projection was correct, and it could be even higher if international audiences came out for more than a flat $150 Million.

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Monday, April 7, 2025 1:43 PM

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Bruce is now showing $313.7 Million, but it's all still projections.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2025 3:54 AM

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$100 Million Budget for a horror

Sinners the budget way too high?

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$100 Million Budget for a horror

Sinners the budget way too high?



I don't think it looks good, just based on the number and the genre. Unless it's a major breakout success, this movie really can't make much money of that even if it doesn't lose money.

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I don't remember which thread I posted the reply because you're talking about Minecraft in 4 different threads and you necropost everything so we can't find anything.

In one of them I said it was going to do very well, but if it beat Super Mario Bros that would be insanity. (After it did beat SMB on opening weekend when you take SMB's 5-day weekend and only calculate for 3-day).

Super Mario's first Monday: $20,110,945

Minecraft's first Monday: $10,000,000

April 7th is recognized as both "National Beer Day" and "National No Housework Day", I guess. I'm hopeful that National Beer Day didn't play a role in this, but maybe with all those people not doing housework for the holiday they went to see Minecraft instead.

Like I said. It will do well, but I hope nobody at Warner Bros'. was expecting a $1.5 Billion surprise out of this one.

At least until weekend 2 numbers coming out, I'm still going with $650 worldwide max. If the numbers drop 50% or more everywhere, I'll already be right. If they drop less than that, this might be interesting.

Either way, it's still making at least a few hundred million for WB.



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Tuesday, April 8, 2025 2:45 PM

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‘Ignorant’: China slams US Vice-President J.D. Vance for ‘peasants’ slur
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3305715/ignorant-dis
respectful-china-slams-vance-peasants-slur-tariff-war-intensifies?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage



this was unexpected, from one retarded shitshow to another

they now sound like British Imperialists trying to shout down at little Yellow-Man

one positive thing I can say about the Zionist Don is he has not crashed everything like Joe and Kamala Harris done...yet

and give Vance the idiot award for Diplamcy

we are back in the Bill O'Reilly mega RINO retard smug political commentator years



China's box office is the key market for making a Hollywood film successful. And now China is considering a ban on American films to spare their citizens from terrible DEI tranny movies

https://www.thegamer.com/china-threatens-ban-hollywood-films-trump-tar
iffs-market
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Canada is already on a boycott of US brands



Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I said it was going to do very well, but if it beat Super Mario Bros that would be insanity. (After it did beat SMB on opening weekend when you take SMB's 5-day weekend and only calculate for 3-day).

Super Mario's first Monday: $20,110,945

Minecraft's first Monday: $10,000,000



Interesting numbers


Other previous discussion? There is a general Hollywood is fake thread which talks about failures and why Hollywood strange odd weird political 'culture' is now insulting its own US audience...these are more focused on rants against the industry with less talk about box office success

In the tv show section of threads, away from 'cinema' there is a general movies from 'Video Game' property which Minecraft discussion is probably a part of

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‘Ignorant’: China slams US Vice-President J.D. Vance for ‘peasants’ slur
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3305715/ignorant-dis
respectful-china-slams-vance-peasants-slur-tariff-war-intensifies?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage



this was unexpected, from one retarded shitshow to another

they now sound like British Imperialists trying to shout down at little Yellow-Man

one positive thing I can say about the Zionist Don is he has not crashed everything like Joe and Kamala Harris done...yet

and give Vance the idiot award for Diplamcy

we are back in the Bill O'Reilly mega RINO retard smug political commentator years



China's box office is the key market for making a Hollywood film successful. And now China is considering a ban on American films to spare their citizens from terrible DEI tranny movies

https://www.thegamer.com/china-threatens-ban-hollywood-films-trump-tar
iffs-market
/

Canada is already on a boycott of US brands



Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I said it was going to do very well, but if it beat Super Mario Bros that would be insanity. (After it did beat SMB on opening weekend when you take SMB's 5-day weekend and only calculate for 3-day).

Super Mario's first Monday: $20,110,945

Minecraft's first Monday: $10,000,000



Interesting numbers


Other previous discussion? There is a general Hollywood is fake thread which talks about failures and why Hollywood strange odd weird political 'culture' is now insulting its own US audience...these are more focused on rants against the industry with less talk about box office success

In the tv show section of threads, away from 'cinema' there is a general movies from 'Video Game' property which Minecraft discussion is probably a part of




Yeah... I don't even remember which thread it was man. I searched about 6 pages in here and in the RWED before writing that and I couldn't find it.


For 2025, $10,000 is a great Monday number, but as you can see it's already half of what SMB got on the same day. And they were released on the same weekend 2 years apart, so it's not as if there's any difference with kids being out of school, or one getting a holiday weekend when the other didn't.

Plus, nobody is taking into account the fact that SMB was released on a Wednesday on a non-holiday weekend and put up crazy Wednesday and Thursday numbers of $31,702,735 and $26,566,130 before Friday even rolled around. I'm not saying that SMB would have made that $58 Million extra over the weekend if it was released like normal, but that did mean that Friday was not the Opening Night event that your typical movie like Minecraft had. I think had they both saw 3-day weekends, Minecraft would have lost to SMB pretty easily.


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Tuesday, April 8, 2025 5:13 PM

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Wait a minute...

Jack Black's A Minecraft Movie Beats His Super Mario Bros. Movie to Set New Box Office Record

https://people.com/jack-black-minecraft-movie-beats-super-mario-bros-b
ox-office-opening-11710286



This article and any article saying anything similar is an outright lie. This never happened. This is simply more media gaslighting and numbers manipulation.


These articles all claim that Minecraft made $157 Million and the Super Mario Bros Movie only made $146 Million on opening weekend.

But here's the lie...

Super Mario Bros. Movie's 3-Day haul: $146,361,865. This is the numbers for Friday, Saturday and Sunday (April 7-9th, 2023). This number does NOT include what it got on Thursday, because SMB was officially released on Wednesday night and did not have what would generally be considered a Thursday Preview night, which is always added into Friday's total.

Why is this a problem?

Because while SMB doesn't have the $26,566,130 that it grossed on April 6th, 2020, what would have been a typical Thursday Night Preview, Minecraft gets to add its own $10,550,000 Preview Thursday night as we usually do for a 4-day total and SMB gets screwed here.

The real results can be looked at one of two ways here...

1. Remove the $10,550,000 preview thursday number for Minecraft and give a straight 3-day total for each movie.

That leaves us with $152,203,003 opening for Minecraft vs. $146,361,865 for SMB. (The article is outdated and Minecraft made actually made $162 Million+, and not $157 Million).

In that instance, Minecraft still wins by almost $6 Million, but not by $16 Million.


2. Add back the Thursday for Super Mario Bros., which I think is the correct solution, since nearly all movies in the last few years not released on a holiday weekend other than Super Mario Bros and Top Gun II with their early Wednesday releases have had preview Thursday numbers added.

If you add the $26,566,130 SMB made on Thursday, now you've got $162,753,003 for Minecraft with the Thursday night added back in, but you have $172,927,995 for Super Mario Bros.

The Super Mario Bros. movie generated $10 Million more in the same time frame that the Minecraft movie counts get.



But wait... There's more...

We haven't talked about inflation yet...

Although it was only 2 years of inflation, the $172,927,995 that Super Mario Bros made Thursday-Sunday on opening weekend is worth $181,089,098.53 in 2025, which means it actually beat Minecraft by nearly $20 Million when both movies have Thursday included and inflation is calculated in.

Even if you remove Preview Thursday from both movies, Minecraft still loses by just over $1 Million once inflation is calculated in since the $146,361,865 that SMB made in 3 days is actually worth $153,269,215.85 in 2025.

Any way you look at it unless your intent is to be disingenuous, Super Mario Bros. did NOT lose to Minecraft last weekend.

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And because of those truths above finally ironed out, my prediction for $650 Million max becomes even more sound than it already was. Once we found out that Minecraft did not in fact beat Super Mario Bros on opening weekend and then we just discovered today that Minecraft's first Monday was just less than half of what SMB did on their first Monday. (A comparison with no inflation calculated in. Just the straight numbers from each day).

I've said that I won't have a real solid prediction on this one until after we know what the 2nd weekend drop is, but knowing all that I know right now I will make a firm statement that Minecraft will not breach $1 Billion worldwide, like many analysts are now predicting, no matter how well it does.

The one benefit it does have over SMB is that the numbers that it makes today have no inflation adjustment, it's got just short of a 5% edge on every dollar it makes compared to what SMB had to make to reach nearly $1.4 Billion. In other words, the US dollar buys just under 5% less than it did 2 years ago.

That's not going to be enough to change anything outside of any close races it has in its future, but it is enough that it shouldn't be discounted. For every $1 Million that Super Mario made, Minecraft would need to make $1,047,194 to stay even if we were including inflation every step of the way. But that's not how Hollywood or the media report anything, so Minecraft does have that near 5% edge here, 2 years later.

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Thursday, April 10, 2025 3:43 PM

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Early indicators that despite the "unexpected" success of Minecraft, it's not going to be doing anything close to Super Mario Bros by the end.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Minecraft-Movie-
A-(2025)/Super-Mario-Bros-Movie-The-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


First Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday numbers for both movies...

Super Mario: $20,110,945 / $15,459,585 / $10,757,435

Minecraft: $9,927,119 / $12,763,670 / $7,758,325


Minecraft's number isn't done rising by a long shot, but it will lose momentem and drop off to a flat line quite a bit before SMB did.

At least for now, $650 Million worldwide still sounds correct to me.





EDITED TO ADD: It should also be noted that Super Mario had a 156 day run in the theaters. Though I don't expect WB to do something stupid like put this on streaming after only 30 or 45 days while it was still making a good buck for them in the theaters, I don't expect Minecraft to be in the theaters more than 90 days max.

That's really just a side-note though, since in the last 60 or so days Mario only grossed around $2 Million domestically. It was probably done more as a courtesy to fans who wanted to see it for the 8th time than anything else, and just speaks to how bad the box office was in 2023 that there wasn't anything else showing that would have been a more lucrative movie to show.

I'm sure if mega-plex cinemas didn't exist, SMB wouldn't have been playing on the 16th screen tucked all the way in the back and wouldn't have gotten more than 90 days anywhere.

I won't pretend to know the deep ins and outs about the business or exactly how movie profits are handled, or the contracts for when a theater gets a higher or lower percentage of the tickets and when that triggers. We'll probably never know any of that. But looking at the SMB domestic run, I think even despite that movie's success one could argue that it didn't need to be in theaters more than 45 days. By Day 45 it had already grossed $541.8 Million. On day 156, it had $575 Million.

Everything post 45 days there is better than a lot of small movies would make in that time, so I can see the argument for it. It's just when I look at the last few weeks it was hanging on in the end I don't see any financial reason for the decision not to remove it much earlier. Hardly seems worth keeping the lights on and the theater heated at those grosses, let alone paying staff and all the other overhead. But I guess when you're AMC and you have 32 screens with half of them being empty 90% of the time, you just show anything you already got the deal made for even when nobody's there to watch it.

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Thursday, April 10, 2025 5:55 PM

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Before squandering money on taking your children to the movies, watch A Minecraft Movie (2025) on your TV:

A.Minecraft.Movie.2025.1080p.TeleSync.Brighter.Version.X264.COLLECTiVE

Bittorrent Link: 0C11720BC7D348B531517C7B96B0D66325592B5F

https://x1337x.cc/torrent/6377783/A-Minecraft-Movie-2025-1080p-TeleSyn
c-Brighter-Version-X264-COLLECTiVE
/ <-- the final / is necessary to avoid a 404 error.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, April 10, 2025 8:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Before squandering money on taking your children to the movies, watch A Minecraft Movie (2025) on your TV:



HD copy of this movie was leaked before opening night and people still came out to see this one, and didn't see your Snow White.

Shut up, retard.

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Friday, April 11, 2025 8:31 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


James Cameron adjusting to a world where half of his theater audience stays home to watch his movies for free on TV:

James Cameron Says Blockbuster Movies Can Only Survive if We ‘Cut the Cost in Half’

Apr 9, 2025 2:22pm PT

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-cameron-blockbuster-movies-ai
-cut-costs-1236365081
/

“And it’s not just hypothetical,” he continued. “If we want to continue to see the kinds of movies that I’ve always loved and that I like to make and that I will go to see — ‘Dune,’ ‘Dune: Part Two,’ or one of my films or big effects-heavy, CG-heavy films — we’ve got to figure out how to cut the cost of that in half. Now that’s not about laying off half the staff and at the effects company. That’s about doubling their speed to completion on a given shot, so your cadence is faster and your throughput cycle is faster, and artists get to move on and do other cool things and then other cool things, right? That’s my sort of vision for that.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, April 11, 2025 11:35 AM

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Nothing I haven't said a thousand times before.

Looking forward to finally closing the book on Cameron after his upcoming huge failure.

... Because he will not heed his own advice and The Smurfs in 3D III will end up being the most expensive movie ever made.

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Friday, April 11, 2025 3:31 PM

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Minecraft hit $200 Million today.

Maybe we should start a list of how many Disney movies put out in the last 5 years that it ends up beating?

Obviously, it beat Snow White. The Marvels didn't crack $200 Million so if we're not including inflation (as the media never does), it's already beat The Marvels too.

Likely next up is Blacktain Anti-America.

Oh, wait... I forgot that Blacktain already outgrossed Indy 5 by quite a bit.

We've probably got another half dozen to count before Minecraft spanks Blactain too.



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Friday, April 11, 2025 5:04 PM

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Here's a good list of recent Disney failures and their final worldwide gross to start with...

Turning Red (2022): $12,271,142

The New Mutants (2020): $47,535,251

Mulan (2020): $69,973,540

Strange World (2022): $74,741,679

Haunted Mansion (2023): $117,449,790

A Wrinkle In Time (2018): $133,214,549

Onward (2020): $133,357,601

The Marvels (2023): $199,706,250

Jungle Cruise (2021): $210,469,803

Lightyear: (2022): $218,878,024

Wish (2023): $237,954,897

MINECRAFT (2025): $351,061,733

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023): $383,963,057

Solo (2018): $393,151,347

Blacktain Anti-America (2025): $413,120,592

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023): $476,073,180

...

Yup. Looks like we're coming for you next, Indy 5.

I'll have to update this with larger Disney flops shortly.



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Saturday, April 12, 2025 12:18 PM

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April 8th:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Like I said. It will do well, but I hope nobody at Warner Bros'. was expecting a $1.5 Billion surprise out of this one.

At least until weekend 2 numbers coming out, I'm still going with $650 worldwide max. If the numbers drop 50% or more everywhere, I'll already be right. If they drop less than that, this might be interesting.

Either way, it's still making at least a few hundred million for WB.



Bruce predicts 63% drop on weekend 2, or $60 Million. Variety has $60 million on the low end, to $82 Million, or 52.23%.

To which they add...

Quote:

Even if A Minecraft Movie makes $60 million to $70 million in its second weekend in North American theaters, the film is surely on its way to profitability.


Yes. There is zero question about whether or not this film will be profitable. That was already determined on opening weekend. The only thing that would have stopped that from happening is if it saw an -80% drop on weekend two like some of Disney's larger flops have seen in the last 5 years, and that would have had to have been matched the last week for the international numbers too. And though only half as large as Super Mario Bros first Monday was, you could tell from the business that Minecraft did during the week that there was never going to be anything close to an -80% dip on weekend two. So people who actually know what's going on here (unlike chronic TDS suffering Variety "journalists") already knew this film would be profitable by the time we saw Friday's numbers from opening night.

Minecraft needs $425 Million to break even. The numbers don't show it yet, but it's already got that with the international box office from Monday through Friday that is still unreported on top of the $371 Million worldwide it sits at currently. The US box office alone should get it to around $415 Million this weekend, possibly hitting that magical break even number if it does the high end of what Variety is predicting.

Once the International numbers for Monday through Sunday come in, Minecraft should have made no less than $50 Million profit for WB by EOD Sunday, however, it's much more likely to be closer to $150 Million profit by then.

And if it actually manages to hit $575 Million worldwide by the end of weekend two, than they're going to do better than my original high-end prediction of $650 Million. Though it will fall significantly and fast after the third week if it holds up like most movies that aren't hated do, it's still got at least one more week and good weekend to make some real profit here before those numbers start getting too small to really matter anymore. 4th weekend, while small by comparison should still be a significant addition, especially after the 4th weekend international numbers come in too. If they can manage $575 Million and all they'd need is $75 more million to beat my high-end prediction after weekend 2, they shouldn't have any problems with that. No way this thing makes a Billion though. It will fall well short of those predicitons.

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