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Disney Studios first 2024 release: Inside Out 2

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Friday, June 14, 2024 1:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Any predictions on this one?

92%/96% currently on Rotten Tomatoes. Tonight is preview night.

Bruce already shows it cost a stupid $200 Million to make.


The first movie cost $175 Million to make in 2015. It grossed $356 Million in the US and $850.5 Million Worldwide.




I don't even have any guesses right now. I have no idea how the first Disney movie in six months and the first Pixar movie in a year is going to play with audiences. I have no idea the woke quotient of the movie either. I know it will make less than the first one just because so many less people are splurging on movie tickets in this economy, but how much less?

The only things to compare to right now would be Garfield, Kung Fu Panda 4 and IF. Garfield is crossing $200 Million in only 22 days on a budget of only $60 Million and has been a great success. It will likely end up the 9th bestselling movie of 2024 so far. It will also be only the 6th movie from Hollywood in 2024 to make over $200k. Kung Fu Panda 4 is the 3rd best selling movie of 2024 at $545.4 Million on an $85 Million budget. Both of these movies have been great successes in a year without many.

But IF though...

$164 Million on a $110 Million budget and the tank is almost empty. That's going to be between an $80 Million and $100 Million loss for Paramount Pictures, in a year they can't afford to have any losses.



It's going to need $500 Million to break even. If I were pinned down to give a guess right now, I'd say it doesn't make much money after costs, but it does make enough money to recoup them. I'd love to see the world tell Disney that we didn't miss them, but I don't believe that's going to happen here. I haven't heard anybody at all talking about this movie, shit or otherwise. I just don't think it's on anybody's radar since nobody has really been talking about Disney.

Staying out of the theaters for 6 months may have been a very smart strategic move on their part. By the back half of 2023, Disney couldn't release anything under any of its studios without everybody in the world shit talking them.


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Friday, June 14, 2024 11:41 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


A wild guess or not so wild

Not a Flop, Not a hit a moderate success ‘Inside Out 2’

reasons

92%/96% is good feed back...other reasons

1A known-ish brand

2Disney/Pixar can still make money even if Cinema is not the same these past years

3Kids are off, some will play some will go to cinema...Christmas and Summer is when kids movies do well.

4Economy stinks the USA and Worldwide economy so gains are limited

5Contests don't really exist - Furiosa dead, Rebel Moon is dead on arrival, Pollman dead, Fall Guy flopped, Abigail adult horror so no competition, maybe The Garfield Movie eats some of its profits or Despicable Me 4 but that doesn't arrive until July?


However the budget is ridiculously high $200 million wtf is wrong with Hollywood, other indie products and overseas movies like Godzillia from Japan with a Budget $10–12 million prove you can make cheap blockbusters

guesstimate?
it will depend on overseas money with such a budget Germany, Australia, China, SKorea, France going crazy for it.
Aussie Summer holidays are short, its more like 'Winter' vacation period in the Northern Hemisphere 1st day of July to 23rd day of July but enough time to make money, its still no big deal if Aussies go to it or not there are still the German market, Chinese box office markets etc.
I don't know release dates I'm kind of guessing a little here.

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Friday, June 14, 2024 12:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Looks like you and I think just about the same outcome for pretty much the same reasons. That budget is stupid. I'm sure this thing went into production long enough ago where they hadn't yet realized how much of a problem that would be in 2024, like most of the flops so far this year.


That being said, it did just pull in $13 Million on Preview Thursday, which is the highest preview night of 2024 so far, besting Dune: Part 2 by $1 Million and Godzilla x Kong by $3 Million.

I did that breakdown of preview nights in the Ride or Die thread last week. The only movie in the top 10 on that list that didn't follow a correlation between preview Thursday's numbers and final worldwide gross was Kung Fu Panda 4. I mentioned at the time that kids/family movies behave different than other genres and were hard to predict based off of previews. But usually that means the children's movie ends up even higher on the list than the previews would predict.

This even happened in the case of IF. That movie only had $1.7 Million in previews, it's a massive financial flop, and yet it's still 13th place for the Worldwide Box Office and is about to take 12th place from The Fall Guy. Argylle had the same $1.7 Million in previews and landed at 20th place for 2024. IF probably still has enough time to even take 11th place from that Bob Marley flick.

Granted, kids are off from school now. Had this movie been released 2 or 3 weeks ago it wouldn't have had $13 Million in previews.


It will be interesting to see what happens here. It needs an obscene amount of $500 Million to break even, but what little information we have so far makes it look like it's going to easily pass that. If it follows the same trajectory that the rest of the movies so far this year have, including children's movies, it would end up at #1 on the 2024 Worldwide Box Office, which could gross somewhere in the area of $200 Million or more in profit for Disney.



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Friday, June 14, 2024 1:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Bruce put his predictions article out very early today.

His model says it will make $121 Million this weekend. He says it could make between $100 Million and $131 Million. This is in the US alone.

If any of that is right, and if the Domestic/International split is the same as the first movie from 2015, this movie will have made somewhere in the area of $50 Million more than the budget by the end of the weekend.

He notes that this weekend's box office would be the best since Barbie's 3rd weekend in theaters last year.

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Friday, June 14, 2024 9:24 PM

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More gaslighting from the Lefty Media today...

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Disney’s dilemma

It’s a lesson that Disney learned in the wake of the pandemic.

Both Walt Disney Animation and Pixar struggled to regain a foothold at the box office after pandemic restrictions lessened and audiences returned to theaters. Much of this was due to the fact that Disney opted to debut a handful of animated features directly on streaming service Disney+ during theatrical closures and even once cinemas had reopened.

The company sought to pad the company’s fledgling streaming service with content, stretching its creative teams thin and sending theatrical movies straight to digital.

That dynamic trained parents to seek out new Disney titles on streaming, not in theaters, even when Disney opted to return its films to the big screen.

As a result of that and other challenges, no Disney animated feature from Pixar or Walt Disney Animation has generated more than $480 million at the global box office since 2019. For comparison, just before the pandemic, “Coco” generated $796 million globally, while “Incredibles 2? tallied $1.24 billion globally, and “Toy Story 4” snared $1.07 billion globally.

Box office experts are looking to “Inside Out 2” as a barometer for the health of Pixar and its future. If the film can capture attention from audiences and perform well over its opening weekend and beyond, the animation studios will regain goodwill from audiences and the industry.



6 paragraphs and they didn't even scratch the actual surface of why Disney and Pixar failed so epically hard in 2023.





Let's just say that every Executive at Disney and Pixar know full well that Five Nights at Freddy's was available to stream for free to any person who had been paying $5.99 per month for Peacock the very same day that it was released in theaters and it still managed to gross $297 Million worldwide on a $20 Million budget. This movie wound up making nearly $250 Million for Universal despite being available to stream at home on day one for free if you already were paying for a very inexpensive streaming service, or just pulled out your credit card and slapped down $5.99 for a one month membership you may or may not remember to cancel before you got billed for the next month.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Five-Nights-at-Freddys-(2023)#tab=su
mmary


Meanwhile, Disney's Wish enjoyed a full 60 day* theater exclusivity window before it was released on Disney+. It only pulled in $240 Million on a $200 Million budget and lost HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for Disney.

*Wish's release date in theaters was November 24th, 2023. Its Disney+ release date was January 23rd, 2024. See Below links for proof of those dates.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Wish-(2023)#tab=summary

https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/03/18/when-will-wish-b
e-on-disney-plus
/

This is why Second's bullshit about Hollywood's current problems sound exactly like that article and none of it flies here.

This happens to be a place where very deep dives on numbers and behaviors have been studied, calculated and cataloged for nearly a year and a half. You can bullshit the normies who have no idea that this information even exists out there, let alone any idea how to make heads or tails out of it. But you can't bullshit people who have been paying attention...

Especially not the guy who has predicted nearly every success and failure of 2024 and hasn't gotten a single prediction wrong yet.

And Bad Boys: Ride or Die don't count since that "(?)" was put there from the beginning for a reason.


Disney had an ever increasing amount of pushback to their agenda films that had been boiling for years, and peaked in 2023 when it grew compoundingly worse with every release. Let me count the ways...

Peter Pan & Wendy begat Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania begat The Little Mermaid begat Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny begat Elemental begat The Haunted Mansion begat A Haunting in Venice begat The Creator begat The Marvels begat Wish begat Woke Snow White being put on hiatus, possibly forever begat a $1.5 BILLION+ loss at the 2023 Box Office.

Anybody paying attention at the time knows what every one of those has in common with each other.




Now that all the woke content has been removed and people aren't going to the movies for different reasons, you all in the media just keep going right along doing what you're doing. Keep lying to everyone about everything related to the economy that you can't stop lying about all the way up until election day and see where it gets ya.

You're so high off your own bullshit right now that y'all don't even know you're standing in the middle of the freeway and you're about to get hit by a Mack truck.

PICTURED: Two Democrat-voting movie journalists getting high on their own farts in NYC; only moments before they were both tragically hit by Mack trucks.




Very much looking forward to enjoying the evening of the 27th with ya'.
I'll bring the popcorn.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:33 AM

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As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

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Originally posted by whozit:
As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:

I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?

The problem with "The Acolyte" is that it is exasperatingly bad, not that it is "woke". (The Evil Twin Sister is straight out of daytime soap operas. I will say no more so that I won't spoil it.) As for Dr Who, it is still only for small children, not for adults. How about Inside Out 2?

‘Inside Out 2’ Review

Whither Bing Bong?

By Sonny Bunch | Jun 14, 2024

Unfortunately, the emotional beats just didn’t land. Perhaps it’s because I’m not a naturally anxious person and Anxiety is the most prominent emotion on display. But I keep thinking back to Bing Bong from the first film: that character’s joyful exuberance, its understanding of its purpose, and its noble sacrifice to help its child grow were universal and deeply, profoundly moving in a way that got under the skin and into the soul.

If you like puns and you don’t mind therapy-talk, you’ll likely find much to love with Inside Out 2. Despite not loving it, I didn’t hate it; it’s occasionally cute. But it does feel empty in a way the first simply wasn’t.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/inside-out-2-review

THE JOKE ABOUT INSIDE OUT WAS THAT after giving toys feelings in Toy Story and giving cars feelings in Cars, Pixar had decided to give feelings feelings in Inside Out.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by whozit:
As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?



Don't bother trying to talk rationally to a cultist. It doesn't work.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 5:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce put his predictions article out very early today.

His model says it will make $121 Million this weekend. He says it could make between $100 Million and $131 Million. This is in the US alone.

If any of that is right, and if the Domestic/International split is the same as the first movie from 2015, this movie will have made somewhere in the area of $50 Million more than the budget by the end of the weekend.

He notes that this weekend's box office would be the best since Barbie's 3rd weekend in theaters last year.

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Pretty sure at this point a $250 Million worldwide opening weekend is going to be easy here. Without previews included, Friday's take in the US alone was $49 Million according to Disney's projections. I'm going to bet it blows past Bruce's high end of $130 Million for the weekend in the US and does over $155 Million.

This might actually pull in something like $300 Million+ worldwide when the legit numbers are in on Monday.

Not only might will this be the best performing Disney movie since Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3 early last year, but it might be more successful than anything they put out in 2023, period.

It IS the first non-woke movie Disney's made in over a year, so they do have that going for them. Probably not a great idea to put in your face anxiety issues in the heads of 5 year old kids though. I don't think they've got any shortage of that in today's world without Disney/Pixar needing to push the issue further.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 5:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Does this cartoon have Gay Robot Dog in it?
Or Lesbian Purple Dog?
How about Androgenous Trans Superwoman?

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 5:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Does this cartoon have Gay Robot Dog in it?
Or Lesbian Purple Dog?
How about Androgenous Trans Superwoman?



From what I hear, I don't believe so.

I haven't really paid much mind to this, or really anything regarding woke culture for about 6 months, but my old man still watches YT channels just for the schadenfreude of it all. He's seen several people who's opinions he respect say that they've seen the movie and it was actually good. The only complaint one of them had was how much the underlying theme is about mental health issues and anxiety and that even though he wouldn't blame parents for taking their kids to this one, he didn't feel it was things that the targeted audience age group really needed to be thinking about at that time of their life.


I'm pretty sure after the Elemental scare last year, Pixar was on really thin ice and somebody in charge made sure that there wasn't going to be any political polarizing bullshit in this one. (Memory Jogger: Pixar did end up losing money for Disney on Elemental in the end, but it was something smallish under $50 Million. But this was after a huge and unexpected comeback after an abysmal opening weekend when it looked like this was going to lose a few hundred million by the time it was through.)

Whoever made the decision to keep agendas out of Inside Out 2 and followed through on it, along with whoever's idea it was to not put a Disney movie in theaters for over 6 months probably earned every cent of those bonuses they get this year just on the profits I expect to see on this movie alone.

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:10 PM

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Keep lying to everyone about everything related to the economy that you can't stop lying about all the way up until election day and see where it gets ya.
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I doubt Trump influences the Worldwide Box Office since he never was World President.

Movie Comparison:
Inside Out 2 (2024)
vs. Kung Fu Panda 4 (2024)
vs. The Garfield Movie (2024)
vs. Elemental (2023)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Inside-
Out-2-(2024)/Kung-Fu-Panda-4-(2024)/Garfield-Movie-The-(2024)/Elemental-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Keep lying to everyone about everything related to the economy that you can't stop lying about all the way up until election day and see where it gets ya.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

I doubt Trump influences the Worldwide Box Office since he never was World President.

Movie Comparison:
Inside Out 2 (2024)
vs. Kung Fu Panda 4 (2024)
vs. The Garfield Movie (2024)
vs. Elemental (2023)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Inside-
Out-2-(2024)/Kung-Fu-Panda-4-(2024)/Garfield-Movie-The-(2024)/Elemental-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


How insipid can you be?

I'm fair certain that anybody with a brain noticed how every advanced economy in the world was gangbusters in 2018 and 2019.

Just like how they all tanked since Lord Darth Obiden stole the election.

Trump really was a World Leader, and market based economies knew it.

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Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:51 AM

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How insipid can you be?

I'm fair certain that anybody with a brain noticed how every advanced economy in the world was gangbusters in 2018 and 2019.

Just like how they all tanked since Lord Darth Obiden stole the election.

Trump really was a World Leader, and market based economies knew it.

The Trumptards I am familiar with act as if their lives are not under their own control but rather controlled by the President. Therefore it is unsurprising when the Trumptards act irresponsibly about their own health, their finances, their marriages, the raising of their children, and their jobs. It is not their fault when life goes wrong for a Trumptard! Instead, blame the Democrats! Also not surprising when life goes predictably terrible for the irresponsible Trumptards.

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Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:53 PM

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48.8M overseas | 110.8M worldwide

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32000-inside-out-ii-488m-over
seas-1108m-worldwide
/

Standout intl performer for #InsideOut2 is the Philippines where it generated 3rd biggest opening day of all-time. Not all-time for toons, all-time for ALL movies! Only films to open bigger were #Avengers pics Endgame & Infinity War.

https://x.com/GiteshPandya/status/1802006413465571577

the other more adult topic and disaster movie the low budget and how they got it correct with writing

'A Screenwriter's Take: Godzilla Minus One Review'




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Sunday, June 16, 2024 6:47 PM

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The pirates have made a free copy available for Inside Out 2:

Inside.Out.2.2024.1080p.TELESYNC.x264.COLLECTiVE

Add either of these Torrent Links ( software download https://www.qbittorrent.org/ )

F8DF03E71179E121C0B5C624B0F3E438076AFBD8

8FAE371CB820400ECC974A39912E42CAB138C263

Notes from the pirates: German REEL CAM, extremely nice,
synced English and Spanish audios
English audio was hard to sync so we apologize if there is any moments that are desynced.
Added post credit scene with spanish audio only.

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Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:10 PM

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Movie Comparison: Inside Out 2 (2024) vs. Inside Out (2015)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Inside-Out-2-(20
24)/Inside-Out-(2015)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


If you overlook the inflation adjustment, only $555,000,000 separates the two movies.

Worldwide Box Office $295,000,000 $850,566,343

The inflation adjustment is $1.00 in 2015 (when the first cartoon arrived) equals $1.33 in 2024.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

Inside Out 2 (2024) will have to sell $1,100,000,000 worth of tickets to match Inside Out (2015) $850,000,000 worth of tickets.

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Sunday, June 16, 2024 10:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I do believe that Second might be thinking that we're rooting for Disney.

I do believe that Second is confused.



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Sunday, June 16, 2024 11:35 PM

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I do believe that Second might be thinking that we're rooting for Disney.

I do believe that Second is confused.



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You are confused about the cause of Hollywood's decline in ticket sales. Label your false ideas as 1-2-3. 1) Biden is to blame. 2) Wokeness is to blame. (Less wokeness equals higher ticket sales. Inside Out 2 is the least woke of the cartoons) 3) Trump is the solution to the decline because Biden destroyed the American economy, impoverishing movie patrons all over the world. Therefore ticket sales must drop, but Trump will fix it.

I think Hollywood's decline is technological. 1) Hollywood movies have always been crappy, but audiences are only now slowly beginning to sense that because they now have thousands of past examples immediately available on TV to compare with present day Hollywood output. Audiences are waking up to the fact that the movies have always been worthless crap, going back to the days of silent movies. 2) Whatever is best at the theaters will very soon be available for free from a streaming service or a pirate. 3) Audiences sense that it makes no sense (unless you are child or teenager) to pay high prices and travel beyond your own neighborhood to see this crap. Instead, wait for that movie to come to 4K TV at your house. When it arrives, 8K TV will make ticket sales decrease even more.

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Monday, June 17, 2024 12:00 AM

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Pretty sure at this point a $250 Million worldwide opening weekend is going to be easy here. Without previews included, Friday's take in the US alone was $49 Million according to Disney's projections. I'm going to bet it blows past Bruce's high end of $130 Million for the weekend in the US and does over $155 Million.

This might actually pull in something like $300 Million+ worldwide when the legit numbers are in on Monday.


Not only might will this be the best performing Disney movie since Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3 early last year, but it might be more successful than anything they put out in 2023, period.

It IS the first non-woke movie Disney's made in over a year, so they do have that going for them. Probably not a great idea to put in your face anxiety issues in the heads of 5 year old kids though. I don't think they've got any shortage of that in today's world without Disney/Pixar needing to push the issue further.



Don't have the final numbers in yet, but here's the projections...

Domestic: $155 Million
International: $140 Million
Worldwide: $295 Million

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Monday, June 17, 2024 1:51 PM

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Movie Comparison: Inside Out 2 (2024) vs. Inside Out (2015)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Inside-Out-2-(20
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If you overlook the inflation adjustment, only $555,000,000 separates the two movies.

Worldwide Box Office $295,000,000 $850,566,343

The inflation adjustment is $1.00 in 2015 (when the first cartoon arrived) equals $1.33 in 2024.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

Inside Out 2 (2024) will have to sell $1,100,000,000 worth of tickets to match Inside Out (2015) $850,000,000 worth of tickets.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




It might...

Per Bruce at The-Numbers...

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Inside Out 2 is blasting past expectations and headed towards a $155-million opening, according to Disney’s Sunday-morning announcement. That’s comfortably more than the $146.4 million The Super Mario Bros. Movie made on its opening weekend last year, and second only to Incredibles 2 on the list of biggest opening weekends for animated movies. The Incredibles sequel opened with $182.7 million back in 2018. Mario ended its domestic run with almost $575 million, and Incredibles 2 finished its run with $608.6 million. With stellar reviews, Inside Out 2 seems like a lock for $500 million, and $600 million at the domestic box office seems within reach.


If it hits $600 Million in the US, it almost assuredly makes $1.1 Billion worldwide. The only thing it has working against it is that the ratio of Domestic to International so far is 52.5%/47.5%, while the first movie ended with 41.9%/58.1%. Otherwise, $500 Million in the US would have easily got it past that number.

But regarding that...

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Disney are claiming the highest international and global animated opening of all time “assuming the same international release pattern and at current rates.”


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Monday, June 17, 2024 7:28 PM

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No news on actual international numbers, but the US numbers actually dipped when the real numbers came in.

US: $154,201,673
International: $140,000,000
Worldwide Box Office: $294,201,673

I was really hoping that they'd both get bumped up to make my $300 Million+ worldwide prediction come true.

I wonder why they lowballed the US prediction here. I called it last year when they pulled that on purpose to spare additional headline embarrassment with both The Marvels and Wish, but really it's so out of the ordinary to ever see this happen, especially with a successful movie.

It's still possible it climbs over $300 after the internationals come in since there tends to be a lot more variance there.



However, I was right about this part.

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Not only might will this be the best performing Disney movie since Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3 early last year, but it might be more successful than anything they put out in 2023, period.



Worldwide opening for Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3 got $289.3 Million worldwide on opening weekend.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-rockets
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Unless this movie unexpectedly tanks before Despicable Me 4 comes out on July 3rd, I think it will end up more successful than anything Disney put out last year.

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Unless this movie unexpectedly tanks before Despicable Me 4 comes out on July 3rd, I think it will end up more successful than anything Disney put out last year.

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During show-and-tell at school, four minutes into the movie there is this immortally woke line: "Did you know that change in your couch could change the world?" Then the glass jar of quarters, dimes, nickles, pennies is dropped. Everyone laughs at the mess, except the mortified little girl and Riley, the main character. Then they bond while picking up coins. Then an African American girl also helps pick up the coins and they bond. More wokeness. So wholesome. But where are the car crashes? Where are the explosions? Where are the murderous villains forcing children into sex-slavery? (A reference to "Sound of Freedom" [2023]) Where is THE BLOOD?

The super profitable movie Sound of Freedom Production Budget: $14,500,000 (worldwide box office is 17.3 times production budget). Why aren't Disney movies more profitable? Because of wokeness! Because of Joe Biden! Only Trump can fix it and save America from wokeness and the climate change hoax! Don't let Disney and Biden* take away our guns and freedom!
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Unless this movie unexpectedly tanks before Despicable Me 4 comes out on July 3rd, I think it will end up more successful than anything Disney put out last year.

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During show-and-tell at school, four minutes into the movie there is this immortally woke line: "Did you know that change in your couch could change the world?" Then the glass jar of quarters, dimes, nickles, pennies is dropped. Everyone laughs at the mess, except the mortified little girl and Riley, the main character. Then they bond while picking up coins. Then an African American girl also helps pick up the coins and they bond. More wokeness. So wholesome. But where are the car crashes? Where are the explosions? Where are the murderous villains forcing children into sex-slavery? (A reference to "Sound of Freedom" [2023]) Where is THE BLOOD?

The super profitable movie Sound of Freedom Production Budget: $14,500,000 (worldwide box office is 17.3 times production budget). Why aren't Disney movies more profitable? Because of wokeness! Because of Joe Biden! Only Trump can fix it and save America from wokeness and the climate change hoax! Don't let Disney and Biden* take away our guns and freedom!
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Your scenario you mention here from the movie doesn't sound woke to me.

Maybe you think it's woke because you're a racist?

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Tuesday, June 18, 2024 4:25 PM

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1/3rd of a Billion worldwide in 4 days.

It's still $167 Million shy of breaking even, but with another $22 Million in the bank on Monday with probably over $30 Million today, there is no question this is going to break even and make Disney a lot of money.

I think the most unfortunate thing is that it will be a success despite the obscene budget. Hopefully the studios, including Disney, will still realize what a gamble it is going forward to have these $200 Million+ budgets going forward and seriously pare them back.

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Tuesday, June 18, 2024 6:09 PM

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No news on actual international numbers, but the US numbers actually dipped when the real numbers came in.

US: $154,201,673
International: $140,000,000
Worldwide Box Office: $294,201,673

I was really hoping that they'd both get bumped up to make my $300 Million+ worldwide prediction come true.

I wonder why they lowballed the US prediction here. I called it last year when they pulled that on purpose to spare additional headline embarrassment with both The Marvels and Wish, but really it's so out of the ordinary to ever see this happen, especially with a successful movie.

It's still possible it climbs over $300 after the internationals come in since there tends to be a lot more variance there.



Oh... BTW.... I just noticed this.

Disney severely lowballed the international numbers. It was actually $157.4 Million. Not $140 Million.

This means that the Worldwide Total for Opening weekend was $311,601,673.



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Tuesday, June 18, 2024 10:21 PM

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Inside Out 2 is now 8th place in the 2024 Worldwide Top 100, and was after only 3 days.

It will pass Article 20 (China) tomorrow for 7th place, and it will take 6th place from Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes on Wednesday, it's 6th day in theaters.


When Internationals come in on Monday the 24th, it will be 2nd place for 2024. Probably somewhere in the general area of only $80 Million behind Dune: Part Two for 1st place.

It will then take 1st place on Friday the 28th.

(The fact we won't get internationals for Friday as they happen, this might not be reflected until the US numbers come in for Saturday the 29th).

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Inside Out 2 is now 8th place in the 2024 Worldwide Top 100, and was after only 3 days.

It will pass Article 20 (China) tomorrow for 7th place, and it will take 6th place from Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes on Wednesday, it's 6th day in theaters.


When Internationals come in on Monday the 24th, it will be 2nd place for 2024. Probably somewhere in the general area of only $80 Million behind Dune: Part Two for 1st place.

It will then take 1st place on Friday the 28th.

(The fact we won't get internationals for Friday as they happen, this might not be reflected until the US numbers come in for Saturday the 29th).



I realize these are pretty bold predictions, but I do believe they'll come to be the truth.

I had figured this on IO2 making $30 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday compared to the $22.4 Million it made on Monday. It didn't quite make it there, but projections now are showing $29.1 Million for Tuesday. Close enough.

The first two predictions were easy and already came true. IO2 is now 6th place for 2024, displacing Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes by around $4.5 Million. It has made $379,972,881 worldwide in 5 days.

Its next two steps up the ladder are the Chinese movies Pegasus 2 ($469,847,217 / 5th place) and YOLO ($479,597,304 / 4th place).


I'm expecting another $150 Million to $175 Million internationally alone, come Monday, so without the weekend even starting it's already leapfrogged over both of them. It's still going to make at least $40 Million more in the US on Wednesday and Thursday before the weekend begins, putting it right around $420 Million before any weekend numbers get added.

We're looking at anywhere between another $270 Million to $315 Million additional, including Wednesday/Thursday's US Box Office numbers with the worldwide 2nd weekend numbers we'll have on Monday.

Kung Fu Panda 4 is in 3rd place with $543,787,134.
Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire is in 2nd place with $551,776,697.

Even with the low end of my predictions, we're looking at a nice round $650 Million for IO2 on Monday. This would be nearly $100 Million more than Godzilla x Kong pulled in. But it could be sitting at as much as $695 Million or even possibly break $700 Million by then.

All that's left then is Dune: Part 2 with $711,193,558.

Depending on how well it does this weekend, that might be the only thing I got wrong about this prediction and it ends up taking 1st place even before Friday the 28th. I think my numbers are sound and that's what I'm going to stick with, but if IO2 has a great 2nd weekend it could take 1st place for 2024 long before Friday the 28th. We could very well wake up on the morning of Tuesday the 25th and find that Inside Out 2 is already 1st place for 2024, after only 12 days in theaters.

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 8:43 PM

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... little did I know that Inside Out 2 was going to post the 3rd highest non-opening Wednesday of all time yesterday.

Yeah...

... I'd say it's going to make at least $40 Million on Wednesday and Thursday combined. Inexplicably, this movie made more on Wednesday than it did on Cheap Seat Tuesday, and that was coming off of "only" $22 Million on Monday. We're looking at a minimum of $50 Million and possibly even $60 Million+ for those two days in the US alone.

We'll see what happens over the weekend, but damn if it doesn't have a shot taking 1st place for 2024 after Sunday's numbers come in on Monday.

I think that's still a stretch, but that additional $10 Million it made today would push it up above Dune: Part 2 if it met or even overcame the high end of my predictions everywhere else through the weekend. The extra potential $10 Million it might have gotten today is just adding to that possibility.

If we saw something crazy like only a -30%/-35% drop from weekend 1 to weekend 2, it's going to blow Dune: Part 2 out of the water this weekend.

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Oh... BTW...

If IO2 does manage to pull in $60 Million+ for Wednesday/Thursday, it will make more money on those two days alone than every movie's opening 3-day weekend totals in the first half of 2024 except for Dune: Part 2 and Godzilla x Kong, which both made roughly $80 Million on opening weekend.

As impressive as that sounds, I guess it gets quite diminished when you realize that IO2 already pulled the same feat off yesterday when you add Tuesday's and Wednesday's numbers together.




Theater counts did not change from last week. Still at 4,440 theaters this weekend.

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Thursday's US numbers were more down to earth and exactly what I was expecting for both Wednesday and Thursday, originally. Less than $400k shy of $20 Million.



Unfortunatley, it would appear that Disney is going to report internationals whenever it suits them on this one, so making worldwide predictions for the next few weeks could be spotty. Instead of updating the entire International number on Monday like I expected them to, we've already been given an additional $69.3 Million on the internationals this morning. Was that extra countries that hadn't reported their first weekend until this late? Is that money from the week for some or all of the countries?

Who knows?


But we're at $481.9 Million Worldwide now, so unless the Monday International update clocks in at only around $88 Million and this was part of what should have been reported on Monday, we can just throw my predictions out the window.

If this is NEW money, IO2 easily takes first place in 2024 this weekend.


As of now, it's risen above the top 2 Chinese flicks and is settling briefly at 4th place behind Kung Fu Panda 4. This took 7 days.

To be fair, I did say that would be the case...

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Its next two steps up the ladder are the Chinese movies Pegasus 2 ($469,847,217 / 5th place) and YOLO ($479,597,304 / 4th place).


I'm expecting another $150 Million to $175 Million internationally alone, come Monday, so without the weekend even starting it's already leapfrogged over both of them. It's still going to make at least $40 Million more in the US on Wednesday and Thursday before the weekend begins, putting it right around $420 Million before any weekend numbers get added.



It got that additional $10 Million on Wednesday for some odd reason, and we just got that additional $69 Million from somewhere international early.

Time will tell if that's unexpected extra money or just an early reporting of the international first week, leaving us with only the second weekend being reported on Monday.

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Disney Pixar may avoid going bankrupt but what of other big studios that have lots and lots of flops?

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Disney Pixar may avoid going bankrupt but what of other big studios that have lots and lots of flops?



Well Pixar seems to have redeemed itself for now, but it's always a tightrope. Can't forget all the negative talk surrounding Pixar and its problems making a hit up until this came out.

That's good news for Disney, but there isn't really much good news out there at all for Disney right now otherwise. They're still having park attendance problems from woke changes and higher prices. None of their toys from the last 5 years sell even at discounted places like Ollies. And "They Acolyte" may have finally destroyed Star Wars for good.

Who knows... that last one might be considered a Win at Disney. With how they've treated Star Wars from the beginning one would draw the conclusion that it was somebody's intention to destroy star wars.


But they are going to have the highest grossing movie of the first half of 2024, even if it's not the most profitable by budget/gross ratio.


...

Interesting bit of trivia...

Inside Out 2's second Friday was $30 Million last night. Outside of this movie, there have only been 2 other movies this year that saw one single day above $30 Million, and they were both Opening Night. Godzilla x Kong's opening Friday pulled in $36,807,592, and Dune: Part 2 pulled in $32,211,366. And Opening Friday numbers include the Thursday Preview numbers, so technically that isn't even true.

In other words, IO2's 2nd weekend is shaping up to look as good as the 1st weekend of the movies at the top of the 2024 chart. It really is, so far, the only movie that has performed like the blockbusters of 2023 did.

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Sunday, June 23, 2024 5:06 AM

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‘Inside Out 2’ Jumps To $439M Worldwide, Sets Record Openings In Italy, Spain & More – International Box Office

https://deadline.com/2024/06/inside-out-2-global-international-box-off
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‘Inside Out 2’ Jumps To $439M Worldwide, Sets Record Openings In Italy, Spain & More – International Box Office

https://deadline.com/2024/06/inside-out-2-global-international-box-off
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How are you supposed to take anything anybody says seriously in their article when they can't even bother to get the amount it has made so far right?

I posted here on Friday evening that the worldwide gross was already $481.9 Million, but she said on Saturday morning that it was only $439 Million.


With the additional $30.5 Million it made last night, it's now sitting at $512.4 Million worldwide. Only the 4th movie to cross the half Billion mark. It's also only the 4th US movie to push China down out of the Top 10. The more time that passes the less confident I am that this won't be the first year in history that China makes the Top 10.

Do we have 6 more movies that can break a half-billion?

Dispicable Me 4 and Deadpool & Wolverine will for sure...

What else would? The Beetlejuice sequel, maybe? The Joker sequel, maybe? The Quiet Place prequel... not likely. The Twisters sequel... not likely. Another Venom sequel... I don't even know man... The fuckin' Crow remake? Is that another damn Transformers sequel I see in September???


The current listed release schedule for the rest of the year isn't looking very promising when you take how 2024 so far has gone as your reference point.

Last December had a few surprise hits that ran late into 2024 though, and this year's schedule has been so light that I wouldn't be surprised if you saw some things shuffled around that far from now.

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These numbers are very good not the greatest box office but good maybe very good profits, I don't know which prediction thread but I remember saying it could be a mistake writing off the bigger studios and yes some of the bigger studios will fail but not all.

Maybe getting into the whole SJW DEI thing later which was maybe killing movies before Covid.
I have a feeling DC Warner Bros has some hits but could be in bigger trouble, Blue Beetle, Suicide Squad, LeBron Space Jam 2, Black Adam, Transexual Feminist Resurrections of Matrix, The Flash etc although Disney / Marvel had terrible movies like Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, The Marvels I think DC Warner Bros had more loss no exact numbers just a feeling. Warner Bros never had success like 'Avengers' movies but it did have 'Barbie' while Disney Marvel had some post Covid sucess like 'Spider-Man No Way Home'.
The New Top Gun made money for Paramount Pictures, Oppenheimer made money for Universal, the Japanese Sony has also been taking a share of profits from Spider-Man

One issue is politics, there is no point in forcing weird Hollywood politics on the rest of the world that SJW DEI thing Transexual Lesbian Gay weird politics, a lot of the world dislikes it even hates it, it costs studios money by doing this odd explict politics the inappropriate adult stuff, a lot of the world is Conservative against the improper, obscene, indecent, the vulgar forced into others will not help sales.
When other studios across the world make movies or indie US companies make movies they do not force their politics into films, all of the major studios are putting pervert messaging into the films.

A lot of people have moved to South Korean tv, indie films, European studios and Japanese cartoons and games for their entertainment not Hollywood anymore, the Japanese with Godzilla Minus One proved that you could make a movie in a political setting on a small Budget $10–12 million not shove politics down people's throats and the movie could still be very entertaining and successful.

'Inside Out 2' seems to have reverse the trend of political 'wokeness'

small horrors, small independent films show how money is made the 'Sound of Freedom' or Five Nights at Freddy's the Japan anime Demon Slayer, Japanese animation Jujutsu Kaisen or M3GAN show how to make money on a small budget yet the magazines and websites spent a lot of their energy attacking these film makers and trying to demonize them, sometimes calling them AltRight or Racists etc the Studios are getting desperate to get their hands on other cartoon and video game property.

Not everything is a guaranteed win anymore, entertainment giants can fall.
in order to try save the 'Batman' or DC comics brand, Warner Bros decided to have 'Batgirl' dumped and trashed, it is an unreleased picture already filmed but they would rather burn 100 Million Dollars than allow this film to ever see the light of day and damage their studio reputation and brands.

Star Wars however might be too far gone and destroyed


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I wouldn't be celebrating that Disney has actually learned anything here. They did just shit out the Acolyte in tandem with the largest hit of 2024 so far.

I believe all credit here goes to Pixar. They were potentially on the chopping block if this movie failed, so the last thing they wanted to do was inject a bunch of unpopular Lefty talking points like Disney did in nearly every film it released last year.

Hopefully other studios are paying attention.



Don't kid yourself that indie films and foreign films don't have politics in them. Many of them absolutely do. But the difference is that they have talented writers, actors and showrunners that can put their messaging in them without beating you over the head with them.

We talked a while back about Parasyte: The Grey, and I just finished watching the Japanese anime Parasyte: The Maxim and they both had some pretty heavy messaging about "aliens" and who actually has the right to live and who doesn't. But the messaging wasn't off-putting like it would have been with Disney, who would have done it with a diverse cast of 5 multi-ethnic Girl Bosses who never made any mistakes and don't need no men, or they would have had Space-Tranny's or something.



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Movie Comparison: Inside Out 2 (2024) vs. Inside Out (2015)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Inside-Out-2-(20
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If you overlook the inflation adjustment, only $555,000,000 separates the two movies.

Worldwide Box Office $295,000,000 $850,566,343

The inflation adjustment is $1.00 in 2015 (when the first cartoon arrived) equals $1.33 in 2024.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

Inside Out 2 (2024) will have to sell $1,100,000,000 worth of tickets to match Inside Out (2015) $850,000,000 worth of tickets.




It might...

Per Bruce at The-Numbers...

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Inside Out 2 is blasting past expectations and headed towards a $155-million opening, according to Disney’s Sunday-morning announcement. That’s comfortably more than the $146.4 million The Super Mario Bros. Movie made on its opening weekend last year, and second only to Incredibles 2 on the list of biggest opening weekends for animated movies. The Incredibles sequel opened with $182.7 million back in 2018. Mario ended its domestic run with almost $575 million, and Incredibles 2 finished its run with $608.6 million. With stellar reviews, Inside Out 2 seems like a lock for $500 million, and $600 million at the domestic box office seems within reach.


If it hits $600 Million in the US, it almost assuredly makes $1.1 Billion worldwide. The only thing it has working against it is that the ratio of Domestic to International so far is 52.5%/47.5%, while the first movie ended with 41.9%/58.1%. Otherwise, $500 Million in the US would have easily got it past that number.

But regarding that...

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Disney are claiming the highest international and global animated opening of all time “assuming the same international release pattern and at current rates.”






Worldwide Box Office after 2 weekends is $724,383,116.
US Box Office: $355,183,116
International Box Office: $369,200,000

Weekend projections: Inside Out posts $100-million second weekend

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/257100830-Weekend-projections-Inside-
Out-posts-100-million-second-weekend


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Disney is projecting that Inside Out 2 will hit $100 million this weekend, although just barely (their projection is exactly $100 million). If it hits that milestone, it would be only the seventh film to do so, and the first since the pandemic—Barbie currently holds the post-pandemic record with $93 million. Meanwhile, The Bikeriders is doing respectable business on debut, and no less than three other new films will make the top 10.

...

Inside Out 2’s hold is nothing short of spectacular. After its opening weekend, our model predicted a final domestic total of $455 million for the film, based on comparable openings. Its new prediction this morning is $558 million, and something well beyond that remains a possibility. After a slow May, this is exactly the boost the market needed.



Bruce's model now shows $558 Million in the US, with something well beyond that remaining a possibility. And now that we have what looks to be up-to-date worldwide numbers, it would appear that it doesn't even have to make $600 Million in the US to do this since the Domestic/International ratio is now higher on the international side. $558 Million in the US ought to get it there pretty easily.

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These numbers are very good not the greatest box office but good maybe very good profits, I don't know which prediction thread but I remember saying it could be a mistake writing off the bigger studios and yes some of the bigger studios will fail but not all.



It will be very good profits. It's very likely a Billion$+ movie at this point.

With a $200 Million budget, it needed $500 Million to break even. After only 10 days, it's already grossed $224 Million in profits for Disney/Pixar. Every dime it makes going forward is pure profit... after the government taxes their share, of course.

I don't expect this one to make more than Barbie or Super Mario Bros, but if this were 2023 it would have easily ended up 3rd place for the year, right above Oppenheimer. Disney's only two in the Top 10 last year were Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 at 4th place with $845,468,744 and The Little Mermaid at 9th place with $568,345,048. But with the budgets being even worse with those, GotG3 only made $220 Million and The Little Mermaid lost $56 Million.



With its current $724 Million haul, it's made 362% of its budget. This would have put it in 22nd place on my list for Worldwide Gross vs. Production Budget in 2023.

This is already above Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3's 23rd place spot in 2023, and well above The Little Mermaid's 35th place spot.

If it hits the $1.1 Billion that Second told us it needs to make to beat the first movie after considering inflation, which I am very confident that it will, the worldwide gross vs. production budget will be in the area of 550%, which would move it all the way up to #15 on my list for 2023.


That's about as high as it could possibly make it on that list though. Most of the top of the 2023 list was taken by movies with small to mid budgets. The only exceptions were Super Mario Bros at #5 with a $100 Million budget, Barbie at #7 with a $145 Million budget and Miles Morales 2 at #12 with a $100 Million budget.

To make it to #14 on that list, it would have to jump to 645% profit, which would mean that Inside Out 2 would need to gross $1.29 Billion. I don't see that happening yet, but if it managed that it could probably pretty easily jump up a few more spaces with a little bit more money.

It would never hit the Top 10 with that high $200 Million budget though. That would require a 770% return on the production budget, or $1.54 Billion worldwide. That would require it making $100k more than Barbie did, and there's zero chance that IO2 is going to more than double what it's already made as of today.

Long story short, especially in the 2024 box office climate, I don't think Disney could be any happier with the result of this movie, and everybody working at Pixar should be celebrating that they still have jobs.

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Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:01 PM

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It's already at $761,854,032 Worldwide, with $13 Million more on Monday in the US.

Bruce must have found even more international money.

It will easily have hit $800 Million before the weekend.



I did mention a while back that it would be possible to see on Monday that it was 1st place for 2024.

I was so wrapped up yesterday in how this was performing compared to 2023 movies I hadn't realized that this was the case.

It only took 10 days in the theaters for Inside Out 2 to become the highest grossing movie in the world for 2024.

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If it hits the $1.1 Billion that Second told us it needs to make to beat the first movie after considering inflation, which I am very confident that it will, the worldwide gross vs. production budget will be in the area of 550%, which would move it all the way up to #15 on my list for 2023.

Challenging the Delusional Optimism of Recovering Box Office

Movies Are Dead! Wait, They’re Back! The Delusional Phase of Hollywood’s Frantic Summer

By Andrew Wallenstein | June 25, 2024, 05:09pm

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Just when it couldn’t seem to look any worse in May, the U.S. cinema sector sprung back to life in June — a mood swing worthy of the film leading the comeback.

“The essence of what ‘Inside Out 2’ is about is what the industry was going through: anxiety and depression, followed by glee and happiness and all that,” said Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst at Comscore as he led a panel last Friday at the UCLA Entertainment Symposium in Los Angeles.

Dergarabedian began the discussion with slides comparing the pessimistic headlines that greeted the poorly performing films of the previous month, including “The Fall Guy” and “Furiosa,” followed by the ecstatic reception that greeted the box-office strength of “Bad Boys: Ride or Die” and “Inside Out 2.”

Then Dergarabedian and his panelists took turns taking the media to task for perpetuating a distortion that he characterized as “unique to our industry, that the perception of the health of this industry can turn on a dime.”

Citing her many years in the business, Lisa Bunnell, president of distribution at Focus Features, told Dergarabedian she has grown so accustomed to the constant existential ups and down of moviedom that she likened it to manic depression and the classic R.E.M. song, “It’s the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine).” (R.E.M. is a fitting comparison — the night before “Inside Out 2” hit theaters and broke records, the band came out of retirement for a triumphant performance of “Losing My Religion” at the Songwriters Hall of Fame Ceremony.)

Apparently the depressive period is followed by a manic phase in which the patient suffers from the delusion that because the box office is on an upswing after a downswing, that means the upswing will be a permanent state of affairs. It’s not unlike the wishful thinking many indulged in last year after the “Barbenheimer” phenomenon occurred, as if the industry’s ability to crank out a few big hits would suddenly mean more hits would automatically keep coming.

Spoiler alert: They didn’t.

No one believes the studios have lost their touch; the problem is that touch doesn’t come with the regularity it once did. Theatrical distribution is clearly in secular decline, a sobering reality no one on the panel acknowledged.

And the alternative of streaming as a distribution model? Never came up in the discussion once.

To the contrary, time and again the panelists framed the industry’s struggles strictly in terms of needing to regain equilibrium, particularly with regard to the volume of titles in theaters after the setbacks of COVID and the strikes.

It was a striking framing, as the message seemed to be that we just need to get the old system back to what it once was — not that the industry needs to adjust to a new normal as it will never go back to the way it used to be. For me, that crossed the fine line between expressing confidence for an industry in a public forum and whistling past the graveyard.


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Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:31 PM

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Andrew and Lisa are incorrect.

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Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's already at $761,854,032 Worldwide, with $13 Million more on Monday in the US.

Bruce must have found even more international money.

It will easily have hit $800 Million before the weekend.



I did mention a while back that it would be possible to see on Monday that it was 1st place for 2024.

I was so wrapped up yesterday in how this was performing compared to 2023 movies I hadn't realized that this was the case.

It only took 10 days in the theaters for Inside Out 2 to become the highest grossing movie in the world for 2024.



He found more international money. $799,754,032 worldwide now, with $18.4 Million on cheap seat Tuesday.

$800 Million in only 12 days.

Probably crosses a Billion pretty easy by the end of Weekend 3.

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Thursday, June 27, 2024 2:03 PM

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It's strange how often Bruce is getting more international numbers on this one. Happened again today.

US Box Office: $400,673,315
International Box Office: $434,365,115
Worldwide Box Office: $835,038,430


Now it's easily going to hit a Billion by Monday morning. It will end up shattering the $1.1 Billion Second said it needed to beat Inside Out from 2015 with inflation considered.

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Thursday, June 27, 2024 2:23 PM

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It took Barbie 17 days to hit $1 Billion Worldwide. It was at exactly $1,000,381,413 after 17 days.

You can look at my post from August 6th here about it:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=65650&p=3

Note: At the time I was under the mistaken impression that Barbie only cost $100 Million to make. It wasn't until later in August (on the next page of that thread) that I discovered it cost $145 Million to make after the studio admitted to it only after it was such a great success.

In fact, if you go back to August 3rd of last year (in that thread), you'll see that Barbie was at 817% of its $100 Million budget number, meaning that it only had $817 Million after 13 days. That's $18 Million less than Inside Out 2 garnered in the same amount of time.

And I don't see anybody reporting this fact.



I wonder if this has anything to do with why Disney is reporting the International updates every day or two right now?

As of Wednesday, Inside Out 2 is 13 days into its run. It will certainly be over $1 Billion after Sunday when we get the internationals on Monday. But if Disney keeps reporting the International figures everyday, there's a very good chance it could show that $1 Billion number as much as a day earlier than Barbie did.

I think they're looking for those bragging rights.

It's already impressive that IO2 is out grossing Barbie by $18 Million right now, but I'm the only one who noticed that apparently. That Billion Dollar thing would be great headline news.



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Thursday, June 27, 2024 11:40 PM

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Bruce seems to think that IO2 is going to have "fierce" competition this weekend, despite still losing no theaters and remaining the widest release.

I beg to differ.

A Quiet Place: Day One and Kevin Kostner's flick aren't even aimed anywhere near the same demographic. There's a Japanese Anime coming out on Friday too, but it's only going to be shown in less than 900 theaters and I doubt that's really going to take anybody away from IO2 either.

I don't think that A Quiet Place would be much competition anyhow. I believe that the opening weekend predictions by Box Office Pro among others of $50 to $55 Million is pie in the sky thinking. The one thing that this movie has going for it is its slim-in-2024 $67 Million budget. But it's a horror movie. That's a huge budget for a horror movie in any year.

And I don't know why Box Office Pro would predict that A Quiet Place: Day 1 would take first place with only $50 to $55 Million anyhow. It only dropped -35% last weekend from opening weekend, and that's with Preview Thursday included in the opening weekend figures too. Unless it drops -50% or more this weekend, that seems like an asinine prediction to me.

My guess is that IO2 remains in 1st place for 3 weekends in a row and only falls when Despicable Me 4 comes out next weekend.

Also, the competition from Despicable Me 4 could be the only reason why IO2 doesn't reach $1.5 Billion.

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Friday, June 28, 2024 5:59 PM

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Inside Out 2 enters its 3rd weekend with a worldwide gross of $863,206,043.

14 days for $863 Million.

Barbie only had $829 Million worldwide on August 3rd of last year... it's 14th day in theaters.

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Saturday, June 29, 2024 12:03 PM

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Barbie had $846 Million on Day 15.

Inside Out 2 has $880 Million on Day 15.


I doubt in the end that IO2 out-grosses Barbie though. Not only did Barbie had a phenomenally long run with a really great hold throughout, but the direct competition from Universal with Despicable Me 4 next weekend is really going to take a bite out of IO2 going forward.

I do believe it will be the first to a Billion though, or more likely, if they both hit that number on the same day IO2 will have a much higher number than Barbie did the day they crossed that line.



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Sunday, June 30, 2024 2:13 PM

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My guess is that IO2 remains in 1st place for 3 weekends in a row and only falls when Despicable Me 4 comes out next weekend.



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: (From The "A Quiet Place: Day One" exists thread:
Inside Out 2 has very little to worry about in its 3rd weekend, and it doesn't need to make $77 Million with only a -24% drop to take 1st place either.



*Context: The -24% drop is what Bruce predicted for IO2 this weekend.


Inside Out 2 dropped -44% on weekend 3.

Inside Out 2 remains the number one movie in the US for 3 weekends in a row.

Inside Out 2: $57.4 Million

A Quiet Place: Day One: $53 Million.

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