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'Firefly' Comic-Con panel live blog: Joss Whedon reveals how series should have ended

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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 02:20
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Friday, July 13, 2012 12:29 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


EW.COM - Here’s EW.com’s live blog of the Firefly panel, which includes how the cult favorite would have ended if creator Joss Whedon knew Fox was set to cancel the show, and a very emotional final moment. Also, see our Firefly reunion photos here.

Let’s take off:

12:44: This is the loudest Ballroom 20 crowd I’ve ever joined and the Firefly team hasn’t even taken the stage yet! About 10,000 people reportedly lined up to get in, with many camping overnight. Whedon himself stopped by in the middle of the night.

12:48: Late start. Cast is introduced. Screaming galore. Smiles, hugs. The whole panel could just be them standing there getting applause....

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/13/firefly-comic-con-panel/


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Friday, July 13, 2012 1:49 PM

KAREL

Flying on duct tape and a damaged registry.


Here comes that feeling again. *sniff*

"Whatever is wrong with you is so right for me." -- Marillion.

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Friday, July 13, 2012 6:14 PM

WISHIMAY


Kinda knew he wouldn't kill people off if he hadn't done a movie, where exactly is the big reveal anyway??

Got all revved up waiting for something awesome, and all we get is more damn comic books??? I can't tell you the plot of ANY of the ones I already own.

On review, getting the feeling we've all been had.

Also, really tired of these vague answers being passed off as funny, but they are just avoiding saying ANYTHING of value. They got the man to cry, great. NOW DO SOMETHING FER SHIT'S SAKE!@!!

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Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:11 AM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.





I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:52 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Part 1 of 5







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Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:08 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Part 2



Part 3



Part 4



Part 5






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Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:56 AM

SISTER


miss. my. verse. so. much.

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Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:51 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Firefly: The Radio Series?

That would be extremely shiny!

David

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Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:32 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Kinda knew he wouldn't kill people off if he hadn't done a movie, where exactly is the big reveal anyway??

Got all revved up waiting for something awesome, and all we get is more damn comic books??? I can't tell you the plot of ANY of the ones I already own.

On review, getting the feeling we've all been had.

Also, really tired of these vague answers being passed off as funny, but they are just avoiding saying ANYTHING of value. They got the man to cry, great. NOW DO SOMETHING FER SHIT'S SAKE!@!!



Their getting together was the event. If you were expecting something big, you were just setting yourself up for dissappointment.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:21 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


Quote:

Originally posted by daveshayne:
Firefly: The Radio Series?

That would be extremely shiny!




Right as the person asked the question I turned to my wife and said "radio show."

Anyone know what guest actor they were referring to when they mentioned Nathan standing up to a misogynist?

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Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:59 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Haken, you are the best. Thanks, may you hit the BIG one in Powerball and buy the rights to Firefly, with enough change left over to make Serenity 2.

This was beyond awesome, even if Gina, Morena and Ron were missing in action.


SGG

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Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:16 AM

WHOZIT


So if the show had last 7 seasons he wouldn't have killed anyone off? That's a shock, the last episode of "Buffy" was a bloody mess.

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Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:36 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


He started killing off Buffy characters in the second season. I am sure all nine main Firefly characters would not have been around for seven years if it had lasted that long. Whether they would have been killed or removed from the show in other ways is not important. We do know that the original draft of Serenity (the BDM) had both Wash and Book surviving at the end. The way he changed it made it a more gripping and dramatic film, and much the same (even if different characters) would have happened if the series went several seasons. It is Joss after all. He has a way of kicking us in the nuts when we least expect it.




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Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:51 AM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


I think the person's question wasn't how the series would have ended but who the first season would have ended.

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Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:56 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:
I think the person's question wasn't how the series would have ended but who the first season would have ended.


That's correct. The question was if Joss had known Firefly would only get one season how would the finale have differed from the BDM.




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Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:58 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


We have a new mantra now. My signature line is Mandarin for "We're still flying."

Now I need to get the translation for "The story is alive!"




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Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Kinda knew he wouldn't kill people off if he hadn't done a movie, where exactly is the big reveal anyway??



You knew this... how ? With all the killin' that took place on the show, and in previous series, I find it hard to buy that NO ONE would have died. I love hearing him say that, but to be honest, I think he's pandering a wee bit to the audience. Or perhaps he's had a change of heart, over the years, and come to love the characters enough to have kept them.

Quote:


Got all revved up waiting for something awesome, and all we get is more damn comic books??? I can't tell you the plot of ANY of the ones I already own.

On review, getting the feeling we've all been had.

Also, really tired of these vague answers being passed off as funny, but they are just avoiding saying ANYTHING of value. They got the man to cry, great. NOW DO SOMETHING FER SHIT'S SAKE!@!!



The fact there's such a following for a 1 season series that aired 10 year ago... I think that says it all right there. Do something ? We got the BDM. May not be much, or enough, but (sadly) it's all we're gettin'.




" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:48 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


zhège gùshi shì huó de.

Now if I only knew how to pronounce that.



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Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:18 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Their getting together was the event. If you were expecting something big, you were just setting yourself up for dissappointment.



Yeah, I guess we've officially gone from "Done the Impossible" to "Expect as Little as Possible."

I would actually prefer a radio show over comic books. I still don't understand why we can't have BOTH audio and visual and STOP cutting our expectations, but I guess that's just me. All or Nothin'. Anything else is a cut-rate existence.

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Sunday, July 15, 2012 1:31 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

You knew this... how ? With all the killin' that took place on the show, and in previous series, I find it hard to buy that NO ONE would have died. I love hearing him say that, but to be honest, I think he's pandering a wee bit to the audience. Or perhaps he's had a change of heart, over the years, and come to love the characters enough to have kept them.




'Cause it's very rare to kill off a main character in a first season unless there is a set in place story arc and ya foreshadow it to death. You kill off characters in season 5 when you don't care anymore or to get people talking or the character has grown static. You don't kill 'em off in season one 'cause people won't come back for season 2... Death makes certain people squirmy, as we've shown here numerous times. They start seeing actors as friends, because they relate to them. I've never had a problem killing offa character, because IT'S JUST A DAMN CHARACTER....made up. I accept it's just a good story, and move on. Some people don't, but then some people juggle geese



EDIT: yes, I think the question referred to just to the first season, as well.

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Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

EDIT: yes, I think the question referred to just to the first season, as well


Well, then that's a bit confusing, as we DID get the 1st season in with none of the main characters dying off. The BDM came 3 years later, so I guess I don't see what all the fuss is about.

So, Joss ISN'T saying he wouldn't have killed off any of the original crew, had the series gone one for another season? What ever, I fail to see, 10 years later, how this is suppose to be all that significant. Oh well.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

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Monday, July 16, 2012 1:03 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


For an American series on a major network, we only got two-thirds of a season. We never got the "back 9."

To repeat, the question was how the first season would have ended if Joss had known it would be the last Firefly we ever got. How would it had differed from the BDM? There is nothing in his statement that implies someone would not have died in any subsequent season.




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Monday, July 16, 2012 3:12 AM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
There is nothing in his statement that implies someone would not have died in any subsequent season.



Exactly.

Sorry to repeat the question, but does anyone know what guest actor was mean to the women on the show and Nathan had to stand up to him?

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Monday, July 16, 2012 10:21 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:
who the first season would have ended.


There's a slip of the tongue. ;)

I think Joss might've just been being a bit wistful. As much as he loves characters and actors, sometimes death is necessary for the story (or hell, for the character).

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Monday, July 16, 2012 11:27 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:
Sorry to repeat the question, but does anyone know what guest actor was mean to the women on the show and Nathan had to stand up to him?


No name was mentioned, and I wouldn't even want to guess.




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Monday, July 16, 2012 5:23 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by DMI:
Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
There is nothing in his statement that implies someone would not have died in any subsequent season.



Exactly.

Sorry to repeat the question, but does anyone know what guest actor was mean to the women on the show and Nathan had to stand up to him?



In the past when this story has been told they have been very careful to keep the reference vague so outside of the cast and crew and the offending party I suspect nobody will never know.

David

'Begone, sugar-free candy antichrist!' - Nathan Rabin.

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:20 AM

FARFLY


Here's a link to some Comicon Firefly panel photos taken by @trekkiebeth. Forget it, how do I delete a post?

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