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Originally posted by Zeek:
If it comes to it they can just back track and start following the fan favorite content they already own from the old expanded universe.

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Originally posted by whozit:
It's not just Galaxy's Edge, I've seen vids on YOUTUBE where a line for a ride is a five minute wait.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sci-fi story posted on a sci-fi forum. And yes, people who grew up on Star Wars would still fork over plenty of money, so the crack about millennials not having enough is laughable.

Last I checked, my name is not Tim Pool. Nor is it Gary Beigler. Nor is it Anna, That Star Wars Girl… Those people who have a vested interest in this topic? And millions of other fans ? Yeah, it’s kind of a big deal.

That sounds like science-fiction.

You’re posting on a science-fiction webpage. Dear.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Zeek:
If it comes to it they can just back track and start following the fan favorite content they already own from the old expanded universe.

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By all means, let's cater to the incels and racists and pretend women and people of color don't exist and never did because of raging inferiority complexes in white dudes.

Maybe this time around it'll be easier to just have the guys take out their trouser sabers and joust with them...

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Originally posted by Zeek:

Just like no one ever complaining about Leia in the original trilogy. She's a good character so who cares about male or female?

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Guess that stuck a cork in her hole.

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Originally posted by GWEK:
I didn’t watch the videos, but any declines in park attendance have nothing to do with Star Wars having female or minority protagonists - just like it’s ALWAYS had, by the way. :/

Disney has recently jumped up ticket prices considerably. In Anaheim, many hotels have also upped their prices, and Disney Land has had blackout dates for many pass holders (ironically, for fear of crowds). There is also strong anecdotal evidence that many park goers wait a while for perceived crowds to thin and for technical kinks to work themselves out (the new Pandora rides in Animal Kingdom were still breaking down fairly regularly six months after open). Also important to note that only one of two projected rides is currently open, so many people may be holding off until Galaxys Edge is actually complete.

Not sure if Disney World attendance is down this year but if it is, that’s likely people holding off until GE opens there.

There are many viable reasons for park attendance to be down, a the vast majority relate to dollar bills in some way.

Disney, though, for all their success, does not have a perfect track record and there may be some precedent here with Animal Kingdom. When they opened their fourth park in Orlando, Disney anticipated that attendance would rise but it remained static (again, primarily financial reasons). Rather than staying longer, as they had when Epcot and Hollywood Studios were added, most visitors just divided their time between four parks. This rare but major misstep led to financial issues and the firing of multiple Imagineers - who went on to work on Universal Islands of Adventure.

With respect to the franchise as a whole, I think the real issues have little to do with Rey (although she’s a weak character) and more to do with two things: the fanbase and the treatment in general.

I think Disney was trying out to turn Star Wars into another MCU, but without a grand plan, it’s more like the DCCU. Perhaps more importantly, it seems there’s more taste for Star Wars being a “premium event” series rather than something like the MCU, pumping out movie after movie.

Then there’s the fanbase.

Already fractured along multiple lines (those who embrace everything, those who ignore the comics, those who acknowledge only the movies, and those who hate everything but the Original Trilogy), they weren’t going to be happy with any change - and, for better or worse, Disney brought major change.

As a Lifelong Star Wars fan (indeed, fanatic), it saddens me that so many of my peers are so whiny and melodramatic and unaccepting. I’ve never heard a Star Trek can say that Picard or Data or Worf “raped their childhood memories.” Seriously? Get over it.

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As a Lifelong Star Wars fan (indeed, fanatic), it saddens me that so many of my peers are so whiny and melodramatic and unaccepting. I’ve never heard a Star Trek can say that Picard or Data or Worf “raped their childhood memories.” Seriously? Get over it.

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Originally posted by Moose:

You miss the uproar about Discovery? Admittedly not as prominent as the SW folks but it's there. And I'm sure they'll find something to bitch about when Picard comes out.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wish. you're flat out wrong, and just too fucking stubborn to admit it. That's why you're such an insufferable clown on this forum. You have no facts, no substance in your positions, just tired , low rent misandry gutter chatter.

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But the new non-Dionysiac spirit is most clearly apparent in the endings of the new dramas. At the end of the old tragedies there was a sense of metaphysical conciliation without which it is impossible to imagine our taking delight in tragedy; perhaps the conciliatory tones from another world echo most purely in Oedipus at Colonus. Now, once tragedy had lost the genius of music, tragedy in the strictest sense was dead: for where was that metaphysical consolation now to be found? Hence an earthly resolution for tragic dissonance was sought; the hero, having been adequately tormented by fate, won his well-earned reward in a stately marriage and tokens of divine honour. The hero had become a gladiator, granted freedom once he had been satisfactorily flayed and scarred. Metaphysical consolation had been ousted by the deus ex machina.

~Friedrich Nietzsche

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just for the record, nobody had a problem with Rey because she was a strong female character.

She's a 1 dimensional static character and a Mary Sue.

She has no personality. She had no challenges. She was immediately the best at anything she tried. She was perfect. She was completely un-relateable to everybody, male or female.


Nobody likes a Deus Ex Machina. Especially when your main character is either the God or the Machine, him or herself.

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...but show me how it furthers the story, not just shoving agendas down my throat.

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Originally posted by OLDGUY:

but I agree that "edgy" might be a good term...where Disney seems to look for every oppty to impose their thinking on the market so that I can no longer watch a version of Beauty and the Beast without having my gaydar alarm go off, or the more subtle..ie let's look at the latest Spidey...where mystery-cheerio all but comes out of the closet once he reveals what a bad guy he is...really? the former prince of persia just had to portray a Marvel bad guy in full flamage? why?

stay on topic..stay on theme...worry about making a great epic, not pushing social snowflake agendas...

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


We the fans are being forced to pay for the sins of Hollywood. Problem is, it doesn't work like that. WE aren't going to pay for the SJW /#MeToo bullshit with the likes of Captain Mary Sue, Rey or Bat Woman, who stole literally everything from Batman, except his talent, backstory, motivation to fight for justice... It's an out of control Wahman fest which no one asked for and sure as hell no one wants.

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There's no such thing as an ' incel buzzword ' , because there's no such thing as an incel. Those are just imaginary terms idiots on the Left made up and use to attack NORMAL people.

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* And btw, #RealLife wouldn't have so many queer characters on all these shows in such prominent or lead roles. Maybe 3% ? Yeah, that's fine, but not freaking 30 or 40 %.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see Nilbog is making new friends.

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There's no such thing as an ' incel buzzword ' , because there's no such thing as an incel. Those are just imaginary terms idiots on the Left made up and use to attack NORMAL people.

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NORMAL PERSON? BAHHH AHHAAAHHHAAHAAAAHAAA!


You are broken and threatened by EVERYTHING, even descriptive WORDS! Everything you speak is derogatory to the things you can't BEGIN to understand and simply because you are SCARED YOU ARE IRRELEVANT and in doing so make yourself MORE IRRELEVANT EVERY DAY.

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead and a horrible footnote in history.

DOWN WITH FASCISTS! DOWN WITH SEXUAL TYRANNY!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
SW counted against Hayden Christensen in my book.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Zeek: Tell good stories and the cash will print itself.

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