New Star Trek... or LOST in space. by Jadehand

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New Star Trek... or LOST in space.

POSTED BY: JADEHAND
UPDATED: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:28
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Thursday, November 9, 2006 2:21 PM

So I'm reading an interview with Bryan Fuller about Wonderfalls etc. He apparently started as a writer with Trek. And this caught my eye... like one of those hooks on a screen door....

Quote:
RT: What do you think about the decline of the franchise and what about its place right now?

BF: I think the status right now is very encouraging, and I'm referring to the J.J. Abrams-helmed reinvention of the franchise, which it's desperate for.

Posted: October 26, 2006
read the whole bit here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8738

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 4:46 AM

JADEHAND

no Trek fans here? oh well.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 4:49 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

J.J Abrams is taking on Trek? Ooh! That could be worth watching!

They should really try and grab a couple of BSG writers. The guys behind that show used to write for DS9, didn't they?

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Friday, November 10, 2006 4:58 AM

ARCLIGHT

Oh, I'm a Trek fan. Old school. Do not like what Rick Berman did to the franchise. Not at all at all. Roddenberry's corpse spins at warp speed.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 6:29 AM

CYBERSNARK

I though this was old news, so I hadn't posted anything.

Right now, Abrams' project is rumoured to be a retelling of the original, which has gained widespread flack for requiring a recasting of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.

It's also rumoured to be a Starfleet Academy story, featuring the classics as teenagers (ignoring the fact that Spock doesn't age like a human), and probably falling into the "Smallville" trap (hey, look, it's Scotty, Sulu, Uhura, Chekhov, Nurse Chapel, Janice Rand, and a ship that needs a name --how 'bout we call it Enterprise!!! Wow, what a random and totally-not-contrived coincidence!!!11!one1!!)

Don't get me wrong, I like Abrams' style. I just want my Trek to go forward. What about the Cardassian reconstruction, the Romulan civil war, the new Klingon Chancellor, Bajor's first year in the Federation. . .

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Friday, November 10, 2006 8:12 AM

JADEHAND

ah, see this was the first I'd heard of it. and both of those ideas sound really bad. Didn't they learn about going backwards with Enterprise?

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 8:50 AM

STORYMARK

I think the model for this new movie is more of a "Batman Begins/Casino Royale" reboot then an "Enterprise" type prequel.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, November 10, 2006 9:10 AM

JADEHAND

oh, the article gave no indication it was a movie, I thought it wasa new series? oh well.

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 2:37 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
.....Right now, Abrams' project is rumoured to be a retelling of the original, which has gained widespread flack for requiring a recasting of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.

It's also rumoured to be a Starfleet Academy story, featuring the classics as teenagers.....

Haven't heard any of this before. Sounds awful.

What eps did this guy write? 'cause if he's part of Berman's crowd he needs to go away.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 5:03 PM

JADEHAND

Bryan Fuller apparently wrote some for DS9, but is better known perhaps for Dead Like Me and Wonderfalls and the current hit Heroes. But that isn't the point. Bryan isn't involved in the writing of the new Trek, which appears to me as mentioned above, a movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/, he was only asked his opinion on it's direction. JJ Abrhams is apparently at the helm here. Known for Alias, Lost, and MI:III?
but to answer the question he wrote 2 eps of DS9:
Empok Nor(97) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708532/
The Darkness and the Light(97) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708620/
and was executive story editor and co-producer for 26 eps of Voyager.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0298188/

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Friday, November 10, 2006 5:31 PM

DERANGEDMILK

Yea, this is kinda old news. Startrek.com has been running articles about it for months. It is a movie, it isn't written yet, and it is spock and kirk as cadets.

I love what Rick Berman did with the franchise (as well as Ron D. Moore's work with TNG and DS9). I do not think that this is a good idea, but maybe it'll turn out alright.

I agree that Trek has always been about moving forward and I think whenever its gone backwards its run into problems(coughenterprisecough). I want to see Star Trek 11: The Search for Data. We all know it was set up to happen, it just didn't 'cause Nemesis didn't live up to Khan's standards. Big frickin' deal. Give me Data or give me Death.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:27 AM

CYBERSNARK

Or just a new post-Nemesis series. It might be best to leave the established characters to the novels at this point (I know they're not "canon," but the novel continuity is five kinds of awesome, and I'm not interested in a movie now unless it can be fitted into that continuity). A new Enterprise-based movie might work, since that ship's post-Nemesis career has only been explored in one published book so far, though three more will appear in 2007:

A Death in Winter by Michael Jan Friedman
Resistance by J.M. Dillard (Sept 2007)
Q & A by Keith R.A. DeCandido (Oct 2007) (hi KRAD *waves*)
Excessum Rector (working title) by Peter David (Nov 2007)

(Random trivia: "excessum rector" loosely translates to "the king/queen is dead," and this is supposed to be a Borg novel.

)

After the Dominion War, Starfleet ends up overrun by fresh-out-of-the-Academy kids, so the surviving experienced crews end up split up, fast-tracked to command of their own ships (serving as the "skeletons" to build new crews around) --this is why Riker was given the Titan.

There's your interesting character dynamic, and a perfect excuse to fill the cast with young Beautiful People (which networks are always looking for), with one or two seasoned Big Names to draw viewers. Hmm, I wonder if Ron Glass is doing anything that would proclude being a Starfleet Captain?

Or you could go to Cardassia to watch the reconstruction, and the continuing development of the O'Brien family: Keiko is running the agricultural reclamation process, Miles is technically retired, serving as the technical specialist. Garak is around as the government's right hand, as well as being a friend-of-a-friend of the O'Briens. Three recognized stars (plus Molly and Yoshi), and plenty of room for a cast of humans (brought in to aid the reconstruction), Cardassians (rebuilding their lives in a war zone), and aliens (raiders and mercenaries trying to feast on Cardassia's corpse). Make some social commentary on the current state in the Middle East (not all Cardassians are welcoming of help from their "inferiors," and trying to build a government from the ground up is inherently complicated [democracy might not be the best way to go with Cardassians --despite what the Federation-types say]), and this could be the Trek to match Battlestar Galactica.

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Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:38 AM

DERANGEDMILK

I agree, a new series headed by some known's and backed by new characters would be a good idea. "Star Trek: Titan" has a nice ring to it (plus you could pull in Harry Kim or Tuvok from Voyager to be on Riker's crew and get fans from two different trek series, assuming they're not all one and the same).
I'm not a big fan of the Cardassean reconstruction idea but something with a focus on Romulan civil war and possible reunification with Vulcan might be cool!
I'm confused though, I though O'Brien went back to Earth to teach at the academy, not retire.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:32 AM

SAFEAT2ND

Say, that would be a good idea. An amalgamation of crew members from the various franchises.

Maybe a Kirk hologram or have T'pol show up. Trip as an engineering hologram. The possibilities are endless and it's not back sliding.

I liked the premise of the video game Invasion. Still have Riker commanding the Typhon, but now you can add the young fresh faces as fighter pilots with Tom Paris as the vetran flight commander.

But I agree with everyone else that the Starfleet idea stikes me as Star Trek Babies.

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"Got a headful of lightning
And a heart full of rain
And I know that I said
I'd never do it again
Oh and I love you sweet baby but I always take the long way home."

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Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:45 AM

CYBERSNARK

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I agree, a new series headed by some known's and backed by new characters would be a good idea. "Star Trek: Titan" has a nice ring to it (plus you could pull in Harry Kim or Tuvok from Voyager to be on Riker's crew and get fans from two different trek series, assuming they're not all one and the same).

Actually, Tuvok is on his crew, as per the Titan novels. It'd be difficult to pull off on a TV budget though, since Titan's "gimmick" is that humans are the minority on the crew. You know all those non-humanoid aliens that Star Trek can't show us because of FX budget? Most of them are represented on the Titan.

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I'm confused though, I though O'Brien went back to Earth to teach at the academy, not retire.

They did, originally, but Keiko (being a civillian, and one of the best xenobotanists in the Federation) was invited to help Cardassia redevelop its agricultural capability before they had to start eating each other. She and Miles got into a bit of an argument about it, 'cause Miles (A) liked teaching at the Academy, and (B) hates Cardassians (*). Keiko won by pointing out that ever since they got married, she's been following him wherever his career takes him (staying on the Enterprise when more lucrative/prestigious posts were available, coming to DS9 and basically spending six years not working in her chosen career [plus having to raise their babies in a war zone], returning to Earth. . .). Now it's O'Brien's turn.

Technically, it's more of an "extended leave of absence," but he's not formally with Starfleet at the moment, just serving as a "consultant" with Keiko's group.

(* Which is another topic that could be brought up in Star Trek: Reconstruction --racism and bigotry. Made all the more cutting because it's not just some one-episode guest star, but a series regular having to overcome his biases. We saw bits of this on Enterprise, with Archer coming to terms with T'Pol, and everyone dealing with Phlox's cheerful wierdness, but that crew was fairly professional, and was trying to get along.)

Random thought: Another prominent post-war Cardassian is Gul Macet, last televised in TNG (he was the first Cardassian we met). The cousin of Gul Dukat, and played by the same actor, so we know he can chew scenery with the best of them. Completely different personality though, so it'd be fun to see Alairmo playing "sincere."

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Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:10 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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New Star Trek... or LOST in space.

As long as it's not FELICITY in space.

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Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:59 AM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Thanks. I remember both those episodes of DS9. They were pretty good. But I was asking if JJ Abrams had written any Star Trek Episodes.

I still don't like the idea of taking the Crew of NCC-1701 all the way back to Academy. Especially when it's unlikely they would have all attended the Acadmey at the same time.

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Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:04 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:
New Star Trek... or LOST in space.

As long as it's not FELICITY in space.

The mystery of what happened to Picard's hair is finally revealed!

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Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:28 AM

JADEHAND

my apologies. I misread that. It seems Abrams has not written any trek in the past http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009190/
But he's listed here as the director.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/
Writers are listed as Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci , who seem to have worked as a team with Abrams on many things in the past, and as a team with others. They had their hands in MI:III, Transformers and the Island.

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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