BSG for Dec 1: 'Unfinished Business' by derangedmilk

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BSG for Dec 1: 'Unfinished Business'

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UPDATED: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 17:06
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Friday, December 1, 2006 8:18 PM

So what'd the Browncoats think of this one?

I absolutely loved it. If BSG doesn't sweep the emmy's I'll cease caring about all award shows.
The character development, flash backs, story, ending, Roslin/Adama relationship. In my opinion this show is at its peak and gets better every single episode. Amazing.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:42 AM

LEEH

It was a stunner, wasn't it? But then, so many BSG episodes are. It's because Ron Moore values character first, second, and last, so he writes (or produces) stories that advance character. This one did that in spades, didn't it? The stuff with Lee and Kara. . . . And even Adama and Laura, although I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. . .

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle. . . ."

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 11:21 AM

DERANGEDMILK

I'm not sure what else there is to make of it other than that they care about each other. I've heard that Ronnie explained in the podcast that they didn't do it even though they left that up to the audience, although I haven't personally gotten to listen to it yet.

I was just really glad to see them revisit New Caprica and tie up some loose ends while still moving the story forward. Thats the difference between BSG and Heroes. I like Heroes as well but the entire last episode was a flash back and ended where the last one had. No forward progress.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 11:28 AM

ARASTA

I am so glad SOMEONE brought it up, because I was VERY impressed with last night's episode!

Great character developement; cannot wait to see how this effects all those around Starbuck & Apollo, but it definately will be interesting...was equally impressed with the Adama & Roslin storyline, which had always been more a subtle thing than an out in the open story. All around one of the best episodes so far...

Mikey...

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 11:31 AM

DERANGEDMILK

"One of the best episodes so far"

THANKYOU!!! See, I hit up the BSG boards after the show and was surprised at the number of idiots crying, "we want more action" "we want more cylons" "whine whine whine."
Glad to see some intelligence from the Browncoats. I mean seriously, that ep was beyond amazing.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 8:57 PM

JPSTARGAZER

Yeah, I agree, it was really good. Of course I will have to watch it again because I was kinda drunk but if I thought it was good despite missing certain nuances, it has to be great. I heard that BSG might be moved from Friday nights, has anyone heard anything to that? I think I'd support such a decision because I try not to drink Friday night until after the show, but it just doesn't always pan out like that.

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 9:10 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:
See, I hit up the BSG boards after the show and was surprised at the number of idiots crying, "we want more action" "we want more cylons" "whine whine whine."

You would probably have to count me as one of those idiots even though I don't post on any other boards. I'm all for good character developement but enough is enough. For a show with the word "battle" in the title way too much time is spent with the characters getting in touch with their emotions. I'm not saying there should a massive free for all in each episode but there ought to be a better ratio of action vs. drama. Right now it is probably on the order of 80/20 in favor of drama. Other than the big rescue episode(one of the best single episodes of any show I have ever seen) there haven't been any stand out action sequences this season.

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:44 PM

CALHOUN

In the words of the comic store guy on the Simpsons "Worst episode EVER!"

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 3:43 AM

GRIZWALD

I didn't like it. Important storyline stuff took place, yes, so it was unmissable, but I am so infuriated with Lee and Kara right now I want to take them BOTH down with a left hook. If they manage to break up two marriages I will do it, I will jump into the screen and do it, I swear! I've seen this sort of thing happen too often in real life and it's so horribly painful, so life-destroying, that I really don't see anything exciting or fun or interesting about it. Just sickening.

I enjoyed watching Col. Tigh throughout in his role as referee. He didn't say much, but watch the ep again and you'll see Michael Hogan did a great job. As per usual.

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 4:07 AM

AINTWEJUST

I think it's pretty clear that Apollo and Starbuck aren't going to run away together. When they were in their final clinch of the night, they didn't say "I love you" to each other. They said, "I miss you" and "I miss you, too."

I think it was more of a renewal of friendship and a healing between them, than a desire to drop their respective spouses and be a couple.

Could be wrong, a'course. Happens more often than not lately. *grins*

AINTWEJUST

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:29 AM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Quote:
Originally posted by jpstargazer:
Yeah, I agree, it was really good. Of course I will have to watch it again because I was kinda drunk but if I thought it was good despite missing certain nuances, it has to be great. I heard that BSG might be moved from Friday nights, has anyone heard anything to that? I think I'd support such a decision because I try not to drink Friday night until after the show, but it just doesn't always pan out like that.

Yeah after Xmas it's gonna be on Sunday's at 10pm.

http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700012471&rssDate=12
345678

I loved the episode, great backstory, although no major surprises. I suspected as much, glad it wasn't something out of character. Poor Lee!! He deserves better. Hope those too will now have some more interaction, even if it's awkward, I missed that this season.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 7:10 AM

CYBERSNARK

Yeah, I'm kinda pissed at Lee and Kara too. I feel bad for Dee, 'cause, while Kara might pull herself out and do the right thing (stay with the person you married, 'cause this is the "for worse" part of it, and you don't just rent a marriage), Lee can be kinda an asshole.

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Originally posted by AINTWEJUST:
They said, "I miss you" and "I miss you, too."

Technically, they said "I miss you" and "Eh mhfft oo tuh."

It made me giggle.

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Sunday, December 3, 2006 11:36 PM

ASARIAN

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:

So what'd the Browncoats think of this one?

Not to be contrary, but I thought this episode really sucked. Basically, it was all what I would call "seconday story-line footage". The kinda stuff you show in flashacks, while having a main story carry the show. But this was, what? Nothing but boxing. And building up to Adama eventually making some vague, incoherent speech about having given his crew too much breaks or some such. Didn't do it for me.

Yes, I missed the tension arc between the Cylons coming and them evading. BSG is generally gripping. And the characters, under pressure, are real and interesting. But without a main story line... Which brings me full circle: tension between characters IS secondary; not in importance, per se, but secondary in the sense of being the resultant of a primary development line. If you skip the main story, and just go straight to putting people in a ring, opposed to each other, where is the subtlety in that?

Next time better, I hope.

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Monday, December 4, 2006 2:18 AM

RIVERGIRL

would love to see the back story as to WHY Starbuck ran

and where does a fight night like this fit in when soldiers, pilots etc not to mention medical supplies must be in such SHORT supply

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Monday, December 4, 2006 5:28 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Not as strong as other episodes. I sort of felt little cheated after it was over. The only part that I found remotely moving or directly relevant to the story was Adama’s speech. This should have been the whole point of the show, yet it took second place beyond Kara and Lee’s soap. It was filler material. This would have been good material to pad a larger story, not to make as the climax and resolution of a whole episode. I don’t really care enough about the characters (Lee and Kara) anymore to make there dysfunctional sex life a major point. I suppose the point of this episode was to finally put this New Caprica stuff behind us, because if its not, then it doesn’t really have a point.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:15 AM

JOLLY

Finn mac Cumhal wrote:

Quote:
I don’t really care enough about the characters (Lee and Kara) anymore to make there dysfunctional sex life a major point.

Anymore being the operative word. I can't help but think that BSG is being undone by becoming too complex for a weekly. I can't keep track of all the developments, especially when they relate to events taking place more than half a year ago (in viewing time). When certain storylines are left unattended for an extended period (the Starbuck/Apollo relationship hasn't been explored since season two) I either lose interest or assume that it has been resolved.
Moore seems to be rather inept in terms of building, maintaining and resolving tension in a way that I find satisfying. Now possibly if I was watching season three on DVD over several weeks I would feel differently. I've felt generally unsatisfied with season three, enough so that I feel I was justified in fearing that the colonel settlment and cylon occupation of New Caprica at the end of season two heralded the demise of the show.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:05 AM

STORYMARK

Great episode. After so many weeks of occupation and post-occupation "dealing with the big issues" stuff, it was nice to get some straightforward character development.

The scene where Adama tells Lee about Kara's marriage was a standout for me. I thouhgt Bamber did an excellent job of conveying the struggle Lee was having to hide his emotions from his father.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:06 PM

PIRATECAT

I do not like it, I do not like it, I do not like it. It's all crab.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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