Star Wars Is The Absolute Worst by Jongsstraw

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Star Wars Is The Absolute Worst

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:14 AM

The movies are un-watchable for anyone with an IQ over 40.

So many absurdities and contradictions...just a couple to consider:

1) How could Annakin become a Jedi after he exhibited his murderous rage against the Sandpeople...women & children too? Did Obi Wan just let that slide?

2) How could all the mystical & powerful Jedi geniuses not have a frikkin clue for 10+ years about Palpatine being the evil dark lord?...oh right..the dark side clouds everything...well how frikkin convenient for Lucas!

Firely and Serenity are for grown-ups....Star Wars was originally too, but the Lucas gang ( especially the last 4 episodes) only cared about special effects...they forgot little things like writing, plot, characters, logic & common sense, ...and the whole mess deteriorated into something not even worthy of Saturday morning cartoons.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:19 AM

CAUSAL

I understand where you're coming from; lots of people were upset about the prequels. But there are an awful lot of Star Wars fans out there who feel every bit as strongly about their world as we do about ours. Obviously, you're entitled to your opinion, but I wonder how you would react if someone said these sorts of things about Firefly?

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:46 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Casual ...I'm more than willing and able to engage in any rational and intelligent debate about what I posted....and if anyone wants to post negative about Firefly in comparison to Star Wars I welcome that debate as well.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 7:00 AM

EVILDINOSAUR

1) How could Annakin become a Jedi after he exhibited his murderous rage against the Sandpeople...women & children too? Did Obi Wan just let that slide?

I think he was given alot of forgiveness due to the fact that he was the one that was supposedly to bring balance to the force. Also I don't think obi wan knew about Anakin killing the sand people, I think the only one that he told about that was Padme.

2) How could all the mystical & powerful Jedi geniuses not have a frikkin clue for 10+ years about Palpatine being the evil dark lord?...oh right..the dark side clouds everything...well how frikkin convenient for Lucas!

Yea, exactly like you said, the dark side is cloudy, they knew there was a dark lord somewhere, but palpatine was very skilled at concealing himself. That's one of those things where you need the suspension of disbelief, it's been stated that the dark side clouds things, so you have to take that as truth in this universe.

that being said, I will agree with you that the prequel trilogy was definitely not up to the standards of the original trilogy, they definitely put more effort into creating special effects than they did in creating good story. I've definitely seen worse movies, but yea they weren't great.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 7:38 AM

CAUSAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Casual ...I'm more than willing and able to engage in any rational and intelligent debate about what I posted....and if anyone wants to post negative about Firefly in comparison to Star Wars I welcome that debate as well.

If you wanted a rational debate, why is this thread called "Star Wars is the absolute worst" rather than "Inconsistencies in Star Wars" or some such? And why do you insult the intelligence of Star Wars fans in your post? If you truly want "rational and intelligent debate" I would think that you would strike a much more moderate tone. No, I think you just wanted to bash the prequels because Lucas let you down. And if that's your bag, fine. The point of my post was not to engage you in "intelligent debate"--it was to encourage you to be a little more sensitive to the fact that some people actually like Star Wars--just like you like Firefly. I imagine you'd be pretty offended if someone spoke that way about Firefly; I was trying to exhort you to follow the principle of reciprocity. My post was hortatory in nature; sorry if that wasn't clear.

btw...It's "CaUsal" actually, with the "U" before the "S".

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 7:40 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Evil Dino....I believe Obi Wan knows about the killing of the Sandpeople because he reminds Padme that she told him about it when he is trying to convince her that Annakin is now evil.

Suspension of belief...well that's a concept that all Americans have had to develop in our daily lives these last 6 years....Didn't Yoda tell Luke on Dagobah that the Dark Side was not any stronger than the Good Side, just easier?

Good stuff....you folks here at FFF are awesome!

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 7:52 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Causal ( see, I got it right)...I couldn't title it any other way to voice my utter disappointment with where that franchise went. The beauty of opinions is that everybody has one, and I wasn't really looking for, or for that matter expecting any hostile rebuttal amongst FFFans. Guess I made a bad assumption.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 7:56 AM

KELAI

Here's my thing, I loved the three originals that I first saw about four years ago and then the prequels. I enjoyed them all but couldn't really bear to watch the prequels again...

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 8:10 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I wasn't really looking for, or for that matter expecting any hostile rebuttal amongst FFFans.

No hostility, all just folk here

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And the prequels sucked. With a few scene exceptions they are nigh unwatchable.
The original three, now that was a standard Lucas was unable to live up to.

Luke is da man Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 8:51 AM

PIRATECAT

I agree with Kelai. Just the actors couldn't sell the new ones.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:12 AM

JOSSISAGOD

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The movies are un-watchable for anyone with an IQ over 40.

So many absurdities and contradictions...just a couple to consider:

1) How could Annakin become a Jedi after he exhibited his murderous rage against the Sandpeople...women & children too? Did Obi Wan just let that slide?

Anakin couldn't become a Jedi after his fight with the Sand People, as witnessed by his fall to the Dark Side. As for why Obi-Wan "let it slide," He seemed to have bigger things to worry about than his apprentice killing a bunch of Sand People, like staying hidden at the time.

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2) How could all the mystical & powerful Jedi geniuses not have a frikkin clue for 10+ years about Palpatine being the evil dark lord?...oh right..the dark side clouds everything...well how frikkin convenient for Lucas!

It's the rule of two, there weren't enough Sith to register on the Jedi's Force radar, until Palps already had an army to kick the Jedi's ass for him.

After having said this, I loved the original trilogy, but Lucas lost his way when he started making Episode One. He seemed more concerned with his visuals than with dialogue. I think it was Rick Mccallum who in the commentary for Episode Three says that George tells his stories visually, and he's not good at dialogue, by George's own addmission.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 9:34 AM

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST

I will hunt down and destroy the haters of starwars. it was my pathway to firefly ane serenity. when i was a kid i used to pretend that i was with look and save the universe from the empire. I guess it is a kids movie and i will also admit that the episode one should have been made better but the original starwars trilogy is still the three greatest movies ever made. they were inovative. they were the first movvies to take full advantage of sfx. the movies revolutionized film making. we wouldnt have starwars if it werent for star treck but intern we would also not have firefly wiith out starwars.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 12:02 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by kayleesthegreatest:
I will hunt down and destroy the haters of starwars.

Targeting George Lucas, I assume? I mean, he must hate SW to give us those prequels, right? I love the original three, and I would have been more careful with any sequels or prequels....

But that's just me Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 12:13 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

Yeah the prequels sucked. While I'm not actually a big Star Wars fan, I know that the original ones were way better. I didn't even see the most recent one because the second one was so awful.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 12:35 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
The original three, now that was a standard Lucas was unable to live up to.

I would agree with you if you had said the original two. I never cared for ROTJ much myself.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 12:48 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I never cared for ROTJ much myself.

I forgive the film's flaws (and they are many) because of Mark Hamill, and his scenes with Vader and the Emperor.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:45 PM

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST

ill agree with you on that

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Sunday, January 7, 2007 1:53 PM

BONANACROIN

Yes, Star Wars has it's down points. The Dialoge [Mesa don't know], and [Blast..doors..won't..stop..Jedi]. The characters, Jar-Jar being at the top of my list. and the plot. But there might be a few redeaming qualities to the three prequals. Like if we look ahead the the seventh, eighth, and ninth episode, we open the doors to the facts that even the Jedi can learn to be human and not have a protocal droid write the wedding invitations. Or that the rest of the univers and the Jedi must take a more active role and still not get the work finished. Thats my Take on it.

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Sunday, January 7, 2007 9:33 PM

FASTMOVER

I agree for the most part that the sequels were pretty disappointing in many ways, I'm really wondering if in 500 years those speeder cars will actually sound like regular cars or Nascars. ;) With that said, my favorites were the original and ROTJ, but I didn't much care for The Empire Strikes Back, although it has the coolest title. Too much violence and lack of interesting stuff going on compared to the others, although I understand that it is a neccessary piece of the SW storyline.

As for the new SW films, I could not stand the sappy love story and they seemed like cartoons. The acting was also very poor along with the SFX which looked like a video game. The Anakin character was just plain weak. Besides this there are many inconsistencies. I would have liked to see them make Episodes 7, 8, and 9, but if they are going to be as bad or probably even worse then iI'm glad they aren't.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 2:54 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

I was so disgusted with Episodes I & II that I never had the slightest interest in seeing Episode III.
I'll probably go to my grave never having seen it.

Empire is the best of them all.
I've seen it probably as many times as I've watched my Firefly DVDs, and that's saying a lot!

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 6:24 AM

LETOV

Quote:
Originally posted by cljohnston108:
I was so disgusted with Episodes I & II that I never had the slightest interest in seeing Episode III.
I'll probably go to my grave never having seen it.

Empire is the best of them all.
I've seen it probably as many times as I've watched my Firefly DVDs, and that's saying a lot!

I have to agree completely. I was young enough at the time to only be slightly bothered by Ep VI and didn't realize what a step down it was from Empire. In later years I was dissapointed. Then when Ep I came out I thought it was terrible. Amusingly enough, I had a international trip scheduled and missed seeing Ep.I when it first came out and didn't see it until a few weeks later. I spend those weeks avoiding hearing any spoilers and listening to the soundtrack all excited about it. What a HUGE letdown when I got back and literally ran to a theater. Then I made the mistake of giving him the benefit of the doubt with Ep II. When Ep III came around I didn't bother. I eventually borrowed a friend's DVD and feel I made the right choice.

Still, its really sad, because before Eps I-III I could still go back and really enjoy EpIV and V, now I spend the whole time watching them and thinking about how they are the anomalous creations of a total hack.

I echo the statements of others who feel that Lucas should have stepped back into the role of "visionary" and let someone else create Eps I-III. Let him be in charge of the Special Effects department and let someone else make an actually Movie. My theory is that he really didn't care. The movies were just big theatrical length advertisements for ILM.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:04 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

Quote:
Originally posted by LetoV:
Still, its really sad, because before Eps I-III I could still go back and really enjoy EpIV and V, now I spend the whole time watching them and thinking about how they are the anomalous creations of a total hack.

Don't forget THX 1138!

My Dad took me to see it when it opened (I was 8), and I didn't understand it one bit (but the jet cars at the end were cool!).

I bought the 2-disc George Lucas Director's Cut DVD, and now I have a whole new appreciation!
http://www.thx-1138.org/
http://www.thx1138movie.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THX_1138

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:17 AM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Evil Dino....I believe Obi Wan knows about the killing of the Sandpeople because he reminds Padme that she told him about it when he is trying to convince her that Anakin is now evil.

I think I know what you're talking about here, and when obi-wan talks about "killing younglings" he is referring to the security recording that shows Anakin killing apprentices, not the sandpeople

Why is the rum always gone?

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:34 AM

SHINYED

I will never watch the 3 prequels again. But I do enjoy tremendously the 2 DVD's of the animated series Clone Wars that ran on Cartoon Network.

It's really a shame that Lucas didn't hire those guys to do the writing and handle the character development & storyline......those are real gems!

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 8:32 AM

LETOV

Quote:
Originally posted by cljohnston108:

Don't forget THX 1138!

My Dad took me to see it when it opened (I was 8), and I didn't understand it one bit (but the jet cars at the end were cool!).

I bought the 2-disc George Lucas Director's Cut DVD, and now I have a whole new appreciation!
http://www.thx-1138.org/
http://www.thx1138movie.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THX_1138

Forgive me but I really need a sarcasm filter. I haven't seen THX and never really had any interest since I don't think I'd ever heard it spoken of seriously. Are you saying that its worth watching?

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 9:47 AM

STORYMARK

THX 1138 is an excellent piece of hard-core speculative Science Fiction. I only just saw it last year, and completely loved it!

As for the Star Wars movies: screw the haters!

Yeah, Episode 1 was pretty bad, and II was slow in the middle, but otherwise fairly solid. III just all-together rocked.

But of course, they don't come close to the originals (well, A New Hope and Empire, at least).

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:07 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

Quote:
Originally posted by LetoV:
Forgive me but I really need a sarcasm filter. I haven't seen THX and never really had any interest since I don't think I'd ever heard it spoken of seriously. Are you saying that its worth watching?

Uhhhh, yeah.

Best thing Lucas ever made.

It's a bigger-budget version of his USC student film.

His intention was to create an "Artifact from the Future", rather than a movie about the future.

The experimental sound design is especially impressive, and it's why Lucas named his sound system...
http://web.telia.com/~u48000587/THX%20Logo.JPG

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:38 AM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I will never watch the 3 prequels again. But I do enjoy tremendously the 2 DVD's of the animated series Clone Wars that ran on Cartoon Network.

It's really a shame that Lucas didn't hire those guys to do the writing and handle the character development & storyline......those are real gems!

I totally agree. I actually enjoyed those and it made me actually have a bit of hope for episode III. It's funny because I thought the goofy cartoon style of it would turn me off, but decent writing and some cool action pulled through.

I thought I heard something about them creating a new series like it. I haven't heard anymore about it though.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:46 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:

I thought I heard something about them creating a new series like it. I haven't heard anymore about it though.

There is a new Clone Wars animated series in the works, but it will be done in CG, with a different creative team.

Genndy Tartakofsky(sp?), who ran the CN Clone Wars show, is busy directing The Dark Crystal 2.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 3:53 PM

CYBERSNARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I will never watch the 3 prequels again. But I do enjoy tremendously the 2 DVD's of the animated series Clone Wars that ran on Cartoon Network.

It's really a shame that Lucas didn't hire those guys to do the writing and handle the character development & storyline......those are real gems!

I totally agree. I actually enjoyed those and it made me actually have a bit of hope for episode III. It's funny because I thought the goofy cartoon style of it would turn me off, but decent writing and some cool action pulled through.

Also, two of the best lightsaber duels ever performed anywhere.

(Anakin vs. Asajj on Yavin4, when they pass through the darkened temple, lit only by their sabers, splashing across the flodded, mirror-like floor. . .)

(Grievous vs. 5 Jedi, none of whom could lay a hand on him. . .)

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 8:29 PM

RIVER6213

Star Wars is a complete suspense-of-disbelief marathon for the mind. Star Wars is about adventure, excitement, and high tech what-ifs?

It's fun for everyone watching it.

Star Wars is fantasy, but fun. Kinda like McDonald's unspoken slogan for the past 4 decades: Food and fun. This is Star Wars.

You cannot watch Star Wars with a scientific mind.

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Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:00 PM

SINGATE

First off, no it's not the worst. I have a simple solution for you: if you don't like something stay away from it. Whatever your gripes are with the PT get over them and move on with your life.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:48 AM

SLAYER730

Yes, the prequels were pretty bad. The dialogue killed me, especially Padme's, and the love scenes were excrutiating. But I'm not going to stop being a Star Wars fan. In fact, I'm a member of the 501st, and I troop all the time doing charity work, hospital visits, toy drives, etc. So if you can't stand the movies, don't watch them, but condemning Star Wars as a whole seems a bit much. The Clone Wars cartoon was really decent, and who can forget Bea Arthur in the Christmas special? Ha ha ha

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:27 AM

SHINYED

Just to clarify my post yesterday.....I think George Lucas is a brilliant genius with special effects. He creates landscapes. cityscapes, and outer space scenes that are un-matched anywhere in science fiction filmdom...and I credit him with almost single-handedly resurrecting the sci-fi genre with Star Wars in 1977.

That said, I think most folks on this thread agree that the writing was atrocious, the acting atrocious, and the plot was juvenile & absurd in all the prequels.

I mean...just for starters..Is Padme the all-time stupidest, little retard in their universe? I wouldn't have thought so considering her education and service as Queen & Senator ...BUT...falling in love...frikkin' LOVE with Annakin...no way no how!

What was he.?..as a child, a little smart-assed , but cute kid, as a teenager he was a whiny, cocky, dis-respectful, arrogant big kid who just wanted things he felt he deserved...but not earned...I can't imagine Obi Wan being able to stomach him for just one day...and Padme fell in love with that??? Oh please...what..there weren't plenty of normal smart virtuous young fellas chasing her all her life???...She was sooooo desperate for love that she fell for him???..and her absurd dismissal of his murderous rampage against Sandpeople women & children....oh yeah that's the guy I want to marry and have a life with...for sure!

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:27 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

Quote:
Originally posted by slayer730:
In fact, I'm a member of the 501st, and I troop all the time doing charity work, hospital visits, toy drives, etc.

Cool! Did you march in the Rose Parade?
I heard there was some bad blood with Bob Eubanks over his remark: "These guys need to get jobs!"

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:39 AM

CLJOHNSTON108

Quote:
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I mean...just for starters..Is Padme the all-time stupidest, little retard in their universe? I wouldn't have thought so considering her education and service as Queen & Senator ...BUT...falling in love...frikkin' LOVE with Annakin...no way no how!

What was he.?..as a child, a little smart-assed , but cute kid,

Don't forget 'idiot': He called Qui-Gon Jinn's lightsaber a "laser sword"!

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:24 PM

FASTMOVER

Recommendation to everyone and this has really helped me when watching the PTs. Fast forward through the Anakin and Padme love scenes in II and III. They are excruciating, and you'll get back to the action sequences much faster. It's funny, that after doing this for a while I've actually forgotten that Padme was even a character.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:28 PM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by Fastmover:
Recommendation to everyone and this has really helped me when watching the PTs. Fast forward through the Anakin and Padme love scenes in II and III. They are excruciating, and you'll get back to the action sequences much faster. It's funny, that after doing this for a while I've actually forgotten that Padme was even a character.

Perhaps you mean mute those scenes. Natalie Portman is hott. Episode II had her in a backless dress and tattered clothing. How can you not watch those scenes?

She's a great actress too. I believe 100% that the dialogue is what killed her character.

Besides the action wasn't even that great in Episode II & III. I mean in Episode I they have the ultimate lightsaber duel. Maul vs. Obiwan was awesome. In II you get Anakin and Duko's facial expressions while some lights splash around and then cgi yoda jumping all over. In III you get more of the cgi fight scenes and the ridiculous fight between obiwan and anakin. I mean they could not have done anything more rediculous in that fight. I mean they were fighting while dancing on droid's heads, fighting while falling off cliffs, fighting while standing on their heads and holding their lightsabers between their toes, etc. It was more funny than intense.

*takes a deep breath*

Has anyone read Timothy Zahn's trilogy that took place shortly after the movies? Now that's good Star Wars.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:05 PM

CYBERSNARK

Not to mention the refinery self-destructing around them for no apparent reason.

And if you mean the Thrawn trilogy (Zahn has a wide variety of Star Wars novels, each better than the last), I wouldn't say five years is "shortly" (especially considering all the stuff that happened in the interim), but yeah. If anything deserves to be made into movies (by someone-not-Lucas), it's the Thrawn campaign.

I want my big-screen Mara Jade.

With Bruce Campbell as Karrde.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:39 PM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Not to mention the refinery self-destructing around them for no apparent reason.

They clearly show a defelcted lightsabre swing cut through a control panel, which switched off the force-field around the refinery. The destruction was the result of loosing the heat shield.

Campbell as Carrde is an awesome idea, by the way.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:34 PM

FASTMOVER

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fastmover:
Recommendation to everyone and this has really helped me when watching the PTs. Fast forward through the Anakin and Padme love scenes in II and III. They are excruciating, and you'll get back to the action sequences much faster. It's funny, that after doing this for a while I've actually forgotten that Padme was even a character.

Perhaps you mean mute those scenes. Natalie Portman is hott. Episode II had her in a backless dress and tattered clothing. How can you not watch those scenes?

She's a great actress too. I believe 100% that the dialogue is what killed her character.

Besides the action wasn't even that great in Episode II & III. I mean in Episode I they have the ultimate lightsaber duel. Maul vs. Obiwan was awesome. In II you get Anakin and Duko's facial expressions while some lights splash around and then cgi yoda jumping all over. In III you get more of the cgi fight scenes and the ridiculous fight between obiwan and anakin. I mean they could not have done anything more rediculous in that fight. I mean they were fighting while dancing on droid's heads, fighting while falling off cliffs, fighting while standing on their heads and holding their lightsabers between their toes, etc. It was more funny than intense.

*takes a deep breath*

Has anyone read Timothy Zahn's trilogy that took place shortly after the movies? Now that's good Star Wars.

Hot she is, but I simply cannot bear to watch those overly sappy soap opera loves scenes. I know it's an important part of the story, but they could have done it better, plus have a better Anakin.

I am evil, I am sly, and if you get eaten no one will cry.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:46 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

The first 3 yes. My friend got me a copy of SW3 before it came out in the theater still in it's edited stage (she knows people) and it's the first time I saw it. I only saw the first 2 in the theater, and the fight scene at the end was so badly done and over the top I couldn't believe I was watching the same franchise, then Obi Wan begins to cry about Anakin being the chosen one? He was like a brother? He loved him? First, way to go letting your emotions get to you Jedi Master, and second, the mans mauled, broken, beaten and bloody and you just WALK AWAY AND LET HIM SUFFER? A Jedi, a TRUE Jedi would have put the man out of his misery. But you walk away? I was already losing my sense of belief in the beggining of the movie (ah hell since the first movie. young Annie *whoopee*) but this left a bad taste in my mouth and I just wanted it to be over with. I would have felt more believability with that one scene if Annikin fell off the cliff and slid partially into the lava, unconcious, and out of Obi Wan's site, Ben looking over the edge screaming Annikin's name, getting no responce, thought he was dead and THEN walked away crying. That, THAT would have at least saved some of my respect for the movie, but the way he left Annikin to suffer, that isn't in the Jedi code.

And don't get me started on FrankenDarth. If I were James I would have said "Are you fuckin' crazy man? You want me to say what?"

There are only 3, and they ain't the first ones. Luke all the way and the badass Mother that was Vader.

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Friday, January 12, 2007 7:08 AM

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I would have felt more believability with that one scene if Annikin fell off the cliff and slid partially into the lava, unconcious, and out of Obi Wan's site, Ben looking over the edge screaming Annikin's name, getting no responce, thought he was dead and THEN walked away crying.

Or if Anakin had had any kind of epiphany, realizing that he'd been played --that all the Jedi had been manipulated-- his every action, every thought orchestrated by Palpatine since the day before he left Tatooine. He reveals this to Obi-Wan, hands over his saber, then tries to break the cycle, hurling himself off the ledge to his doom. . .

(And, of course, if we were never explicitly told that Anakin becomes Vader, and were instead allowed to think [for now] that Anakin died in one last attempt to be a hero.)

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Friday, January 12, 2007 2:05 PM

FASTMOVER

The only characters I really liked on the Jedi side were Mace Windu and that really cone-headed Jedi. They played their roles well and you could actually respect them. Obi-Wan was honestly a real wuss compared to the original one, and for a Jedi really got his ass handed to him too many times.

I agree about the ending part and Obi-Wan not having mercy for Anakin. As we saw in the ending of Shindig, "Mercy is the mark of a great man." Not only did Obi-Wan leave Anakin for a painful death, he left him humiliated by refusing to spill his blood. To me this is just as bad as Mal letting Atherton live was good. I mean both arms and legs cut off, what's left of your body completely burned with the little nubs left of your legs on fire, talk about a bad hair day.

I am evil, I am sly, and if you get eaten no one will cry.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 3:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

‘Star Wars’ fans abandon ship as Disney+ brings on the ‘lesbian space witches’

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/18/star-wars-fans-abando
n-ship-disney-brings-lesbian-/

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 3:59 PM

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‘Star Wars’ fans abandon ship as Disney+ brings on the ‘lesbian space witches’

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/18/star-wars-fans-abando
n-ship-disney-brings-lesbian-/

This is worse then 'The Last Jedi', even the access critics are catching Hell. You know it's bad when the access critics go on defense.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 7:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I'm more surprised to find out that we have witches in Star Wars now than to find out we've got lesbians in Star Wars.

I wonder how many of those greasy goblins in charge of Star Wars fantasize about fucking Ewoks. I bet you could dig up fanfic they wrote on some blog somewhere where they were having orgies with C3PO and that dude from Jabba's palace with the tentacles on his head.

Degenerates.

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Saturday, June 22, 2024 7:32 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Star Wars Has Lost Its Sense of Spectacle

The Acolyte is yet another example of how flat the franchise has become.

By Geoffrey Bunting | June 22, 2024 5:50 AM

I can still remember, in vivid detail, watching X-wings tumble into the Death Star’s trench, among other iconic moments that have stayed with me. Mileage will vary on what Star Wars’ most memorable scenes are, but what unifies so many of them is a startling sense of spectacle that imprints itself on the brain.

Trying the same exercise with Disney+’s slate of Star Wars series, I’m unable to call anything to mind. Ask me to recall what happened during The Book of Boba Fett, or anything from Ahsoka, and I’m at a loss. The visual buzz that made Star Wars memorable is gone, replaced by an evocation of Star Wars through a rotating inventory of recognizable elements — lightsabers, X-wings, and knockoff Boba Fetts — and mere reference, in lieu of cinematic magic. There’s simply nothing in these shows that captures the visual intoxication that comes from Star Wars’ unbridled brilliance.

To be fair, there’s a lot to celebrate in Disney+’s new series. The Acolyte pushes back against the binary of “good versus evil” that defines so much of Star Wars, even if it falls short of making that truly narratively compelling. The show’s costume design, production, and hair and makeup are also exemplary, creating a beautiful—if at times unconvincing—facsimile of Star Wars befitting the series’ staggering $180 million budget. Yet, in relegating Star Wars to the small screen, it feels like the ambition has been sucked out of the franchise. The rendering of the Star Wars universe is no longer a fantastical escape but an uncanny valley that fails to iterate upon, or innovate, the visual identity that makes Star Wars so recognizable.

We know Star Wars can thrive on TV—case in point: Andor, a series that not only expanded the narrative potential of the franchise, but was also visually memorable, thanks to filming on location and art direction set down in Rogue One. The real issue is that Star Wars needs to rediscover its energy and show us just how much can be done on the small screen—much as Lucas, for better or worse, persistently pushed the envelope in what could be achieved visually on the big screen. Sometimes you just need to see a honking-big spaceship do something weird, or lasers whiz across the screen until nothing else can be seen. Lucas thrived on making kids exclaim “cooooool” under their breath; those moments stayed with us across decades, even now inviting us to experience them one more time with a well-timed rewatch.

More at https://slate.com/culture/2024/06/star-wars-the-acolyte-sith-jedi-disn
ey-series-visuals.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Star Wars Has Lost Its Sense of Spectacle

The Acolyte is yet another example of how flat the franchise has become.

Racist.

It's got gay witches in it. Star Wars wasn't anything worth watching before the gay witches.

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Sunday, June 30, 2024 6:44 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Everytime I feel like to dismiss Star Wars

maybe even read articles to say its all over and bash it

I realize how much movie magic the originals had

an English actor delivered a very physical role, bodybuilder, strongman and weightlifter portrayed Darth Vader voiced by American actor James Earl Jones, it would have been a weird England Scotland Bristol voice?

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