New Star Trek Teaser by CrevanReaver

Okay, the theme made me take notice, and seeing the word 'Enterprise' across a hull always thrills me- but I still don't like the revisionism. I plan to hate it, yet I will see it- that seem right to you?

Hopeless Trekfan Chrisisall

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Monday, January 21, 2008 12:31 PM

CREVANREAVER

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I still don't like the revisionism.

Actually, producer Damon Lindelof has called the film a "re-invigoration" and "re-vitalization. However, it is not a reboot and is within canon.

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Monday, January 21, 2008 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
it is not a reboot and is within canon.

If memory serves, the Enterprise was assembled in drydock...in space, not in Area 51 or whatever...

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Monday, January 21, 2008 12:53 PM

CREVANREAVER

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
...the Enterprise was assembled in drydock...in space, not in Area 51 or whatever...

You're memory is wrong. It has never been said that the Enterprise was constructed in space. In fact, according to the Enterprise's dedication plaque, the ship was built at the "San Francisco Yards."

That the ship was built in space, is simply something that a lot of fans have assumed...without any evidence.

Abrams and the producers have confirmed that the film's within the continuity of the rest of the franchise. From what I gather, the movie, however will have a different tone/mood from any previous Star Trek film...at least that's what I think.

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Monday, January 21, 2008 1:34 PM

As usual, I mostly agree with chrisisall. I will of course be seeing it, but I plan to hate it, though perhaps for entirely different reasons.

Did they not learn anything from the Star Wars prequels??? I WANT MY VOYAGER MOVIE!
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Monday, January 21, 2008 1:44 PM

PIRATECAT

I am not liking this, I am not liking this. I was at yes a book store without porn in it and behold scifi mag with pictures of no sweet baby jane the new Star Trek. It reminded me of the first time I saw my mother necked it just didn't seem right.

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Monday, January 21, 2008 6:53 PM

EVILDINOSAUR

amen to that, I have been waiting for a voyager movie since the series ended. at this point im afraid i have to give up hope

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Monday, January 21, 2008 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
It has never been said that the Enterprise was constructed in space. In fact, according to the Enterprise's dedication plaque, the ship was built at the "San Francisco Yards."

Point taken...however...did it 'launch' from planetside?

This better be good.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:12 AM

LWAVES

It's a good teaser done in the right way for getting people interested. If you see this in a cinema it has the slow reveal of what they are building. Hardcore fans getting it first, general fans later, and then with the music and the words Enterprise, everyone else falls in line.

At the moment I kind of feel about this how I did about early Indy 4 stuff. Wishing they'd leave it alone, hoping they don't screw it up, but still with a tingling of anticaption that it might actually be good.
Now I'm looking forward to Indy 4 but still cautious and I can see my feelings changing towards ST in a similar way. And I was always more of a fan of the movies than the TV shows (TOS excluded), and I own all the movies, but only one season (DS9 7) on DVD.

I too will be there on opening night. It's just one of those movies you have to see on the big screen.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:42 AM

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
amen to that, I have been waiting for a voyager movie since the series ended. at this point im afraid i have to give up hope

....at least you get to see Janeway for a moment in Nemesis....

Starfleetisall

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
it is not a reboot and is within canon.
If memory serves, the Enterprise was assembled in drydock...in space, not in Area 51 or whatever...

:pissad:Chrisisall

That "Area 51" story was false. Expect to hear a lot of BS and speculation about this movie, but take it all with a grain of salt.

I'm more excited about Paramount going back to TOS for this movie, than a Voyager movie. Voyager was never good Star Trek, and wasn't worthy of a feature length film. DS-9, yeah, but Voyager?

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:25 AM

I love the original series even though I feel it doesn't hold up as well after all these years. Sorta like the folks who watched it the first time around huh? I think it's a good idea to reinvigorate the franchise. Prequels can be done well. The Star Wars prequels didn't fail for what they were more so than for who directed and wrote them. If done properly they could have worked. I think they got a (mostly) well picked cast and a good crew so I'm optimistically hopeful. I like Quinto as Spock though I agree he's a bit short and I'm wondering about his voice. If he tries too hard to sound like Leonard Nimoy he might ruin the entire film, yet the opposite could happen as well.

Anyway I think it's going to be a good movie. I also KNOW Trek fans will be bitch'n and screaming for years and years.... Sorry folks it got too mainstream and they are going to try to make it watchable to the other carbon units inhabiting this little rock. I'm not really a Trekkie.. honest.

Oh well I'm off to watch the 1:00 showing of Cloverfield. I'm looking forward to the trailers.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:16 AM

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Originally posted by Strangebird:

Sorry folks it got too mainstream and they are going to try to make it watchable to the other carbon units inhabiting this little rock. I'm not really a Trekkie.. honest.

Funny, you sound like a Trekkie...Ensign Perez...

Hehhehisall

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:14 AM

I've been a fan for decades and look eagerly ahead to the new film...

... I also expect the skeptics to slam it unendingly like they did when TNG was being created. In the end, TNG was popular touting a fanbase of 40 million + at the peak of its ratings.

JJ is gonna do a fine job, imo, despite what everyone says. So, the one thing I know I can count on is Trek fans complaining until its release.

I'm going in with an open mind and will either love or hate it AFTER it hits the theaters.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Mudkicker:

I'm going in with an open mind and will either love or hate it AFTER it hits the theaters.

I would view that as a logical approach.

Col-lin-eerisall

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Strangebird:

Sorry folks it got too mainstream and they are going to try to make it watchable to the other carbon units inhabiting this little rock. I'm not really a Trekkie.. honest.

Funny, you sound like a Trekkie...Ensign Perez...

Hehhehisall
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I'm a somewhat unconcerned fan. I guess my love of a handful of episodes make me a Novice Trekkie. Overall though I've never been obsessed or enamored with the franchise much. Either way I don't identify myself as a Trekkie and never really wanted to be.

I'm a Browncoat all the way. Nothing else will ever overshadow that.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Strangebird:

I'm a Browncoat all the way. Nothing else will ever overshadow that.

Browncoat first here, but a little Trekie and Transgenic around the edges....

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
amen to that, I have been waiting for a voyager movie since the series ended. at this point im afraid i have to give up hope

....at least you get to see Janeway for a moment in Nemesis....

Nowhere near enough my friend. Nowhere close.
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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:47 PM

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Nowhere near enough my friend. Nowhere close.

We loved her too....

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:50 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I was like 'ho-hum, what's the big deal ' .....unitl I heard Nimoy's voice.

I'll give it a chance.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:29 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Mudkicker:

I'm going in with an open mind and will either love or hate it AFTER it hits the theaters.

I would view that as a logical approach.

Logical? You green-blooded, inhuman... *continues racist rant for rest of episode*

I'm looking forward to this, mostly because JJ seems to be able to make a good fun movie which is what Star Trek should be.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:36 PM

TRAVELER

Having been there to see the original I am going to have a hard time seeing others cast in these so familiar roles. I will see it. I should give it a chance.

As for where the ship was built. I suspect the various sections were built on the ground and then final assembly was done in space. Like our space lab. If the entire ship were assembled on the ground than that would mean it was always capable of landing and it never did. The only ship I ever saw with that capacity to land was Voyager.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:46 PM

I would concur. You are a most wise and learned person, Chrisisall.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:27 PM

CYBERSNARK

According to the DS9 technical manuals, the Defiant-class also had planetfall capabilities (well, it had landing gear).

And it's likely that the teaser imagery won't be in the movie (not 'cause of the on-planet construction, but because it's bad luck to paint a ship's name on her before she's finished).

Personally, I was always more of a 24th Century Man (I grew up with TNG), but I'm eager to see this, if only to see how modern visual styles will portray the pre-TOS Enterprise.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Mudkicker:

I'm going in with an open mind and will either love or hate it AFTER it hits the theaters.

I would view that as a logical approach.

Logical? You green-blooded, inhuman... *continues racist rant for rest of episode*

episode? MOVIE my friend! Thats from Wrath of Khan when Spock is talking about the logic of the genesis device...

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:06 PM

Ok at the risk of revealing how much I watch reruns of TNG... doesn't the Enterprise land in least once of the episodes? I may be thinking of the episode of Voyager though. And I don't mean in Generations when it's crashes... Also, didn't the Enterprise enter the atmosphere in one of the TOS movies? I may have just either proved to myself I am a Trekkie or proved to you all how I am totally not.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:31 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain

I'm not a Trekkie...but I am a fan. I'm most familiar with TNG (used to watch it with my dad as a kid) but I also enjoy TOS and Voyager. DS9 is hit and miss for me. That being said, I'm looking forward to this movie. I understand the folks who have issues with the whole thing but it looks well cast and well directed, so I will withhold judgement untill I have actually seen it.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:38 AM

JONGSSTRAW

To those here that are wanting to see a VOYAGER movie....wasn't the series finale, End Game good enough? I really love that episode; probably have seen it 20 times. It has everything in it & wrapped up the series in a terrific and surprising manner. I can't think of anything else they could come up with for this crew, except some follow-up on their lives in the new time-line that Janeway created. What would you want to potentially see in a movie?

Aslo.....Those Next Generation cast movies were all pretty good, but wouldn't it have been awesome if they could have built a movie around one of the finest episodes in Trek history...The Inner Light? They could have had Picard go back in time a thousand years & actually meet and live with all the friends and family that he "lived" with during his 25-minute lifetime experience. He could have time travelled in a variety of ways....the warp-breakaway method, the Guardian of Forever method, or the Bajoran orb method.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:19 AM

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Originally posted by Strangebird:
Ok at the risk of revealing how much I watch reruns of TNG... doesn't the Enterprise land in least once of the episodes? I may be thinking of the episode of Voyager though. And I don't mean in Generations when it's crashes... Also, didn't the Enterprise enter the atmosphere in one of the TOS movies?

The landing you speak of was on Voyager- Enterprise entered atmo in Naked Time, Tomorrow Is Yesterday, and more fatal-y in ST3.

Who's yer geekisall

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
To those here that are wanting to see a VOYAGER movie....wasn't the series finale, End Game good enough?

I thought it was the perfect ending.

Paradoxes notwithstandingisall

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:40 PM

TRAVELER

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Aslo.....Those Next Generation cast movies were all pretty good, but wouldn't it have been awesome if they could have built a movie around one of the finest episodes in Trek history...The Inner Light? They could have had Picard go back in time a thousand years & actually meet and live with all the friends and family that he "lived" with during his 25-minute lifetime experience. He could have time travelled in a variety of ways....the warp-breakaway method, the Guardian of Forever method, or the Bajoran orb method.

Hey Jungsstraw:

That was my favorite episode. With Picard living a whole other life. That was well written.
I suspect they will never bring back any of the original casts for a Trek movie after this movie.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:08 PM

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Hi Traveller

The Inner Light used to be consistently voted by ST:NG fans as the #1 episode, at least by fans in So. Florida who would vote when the local channel used to air the re-runs regularly & they would put on Marathons. I really do love that episode more than I can describe, because for me it's very personal. I usually feel like an "outsider" or a "stranger in a strange land" much as Picard/Kaman felt when he first arrived.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:32 PM

Also my favorite episode. I still get that tune in my head from time to time and it takes me a second or so to place it. Music always makes a larger impression on me that anything else and I rarely forget any sort of tune or theme from a series. I really wasn't aware that the more hardcore fans also loved that episode as much as I do.

ALSO.... You can download the trailer in HD from here. I find this a lot more conveinient since I always have problems getting stuff to load on YouTube.
http://www.jurassicpunk.com/movies/startrekxi.shtml

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:46 PM

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Hi Traveller

The Inner Light used to be consistently voted by ST:NG fans as the #1 episode, at least by fans in So. Florida who would vote when the local channel used to air the re-runs regularly & they would put on Marathons. I really do love that episode more than I can describe, because for me it's very personal. I usually feel like an "outsider" or a "stranger in a strange land" much as Picard/Kaman felt when he first arrived.

As a Florida native I remember several fan voted marathons featuring that episode and I also like it, although I wouldn't call it my favorite.

As for a Voyager movie, I think they could go numerous places with it, as I have a fair amount of ideas of my own. I also think a TNG Voyager crossover movie would be great, or maybe a series about the USS Titan, Riker's new ship that according to several books Tuvok is the first officer of.
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Friday, January 25, 2008 5:29 AM

PACHELBEL

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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
For those who haven't seen...or at least haven't seen a non-bootleg high-def version, here it is:

I guess the official teaser is here:

http://www.paramount.com/startrek/

I guess everyone who is happy this movie is being made should thank their lucky stars that Star Trek: Enterprise was such an abysmal series.

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Friday, January 25, 2008 5:49 AM

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Originally posted by pachelbel:
I guess everyone who is happy this movie is being made should thank their lucky stars that Star Trek: Enterprise was such an abysmal series.

Hey, now. I was one of the 4.3 million fans that actually enjoyed STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE. But this doesn't surprise me. Only a fraction of the Trek fanbase gave it a chance, not even after Manny Coto took the helm in Season 4. If they had only allowed him to continue through the now absent Seasons 5,6 & 7, people would have realized how great a series it truly was... or could have been.

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Friday, January 25, 2008 6:12 AM

PACHELBEL

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Originally posted by Mudkicker:
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Originally posted by pachelbel:
I guess everyone who is happy this movie is being made should thank their lucky stars that Star Trek: Enterprise was such an abysmal series.

Hey, now. I was one of the 4.3 million fans that actually enjoyed STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE. But this doesn't surprise me. Only a fraction of the Trek fanbase gave it a chance, not even after Manny Coto took the helm in Season 4. If they had only allowed him to continue through the now absent Seasons 5,6 & 7, people would have realized how great a series it truly was... or could have been.

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Sorry. I had no idea it lasted that long. I guess I gave up on it kind of early.

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Friday, January 25, 2008 6:34 AM

SHADESIREN

I stuck with it thru season 2, but after the enemy mine ripoff episode, I had to call it quits. That was at least the third or fourth (or more) plotline that was clearly the exact same one from another movie or television show. And then there were the ones that seemed to revolve around getting the vulcan chick sweaty and nearly naked. Too wierd. I liked it ok, but all that got old real fast, and I stopped. I had no idea it went on for that many seasons, either.

I'm hoping the new trek can maybe revitalize Star Trek. Not so much because I so dearly miss it (I WAS a major Trekkie in my day, but I'm a tried and true Browncoat now) but because I want more Sci Fi. Movies, TV, anything, new, remade, whatever I can get :) bonus for that: if they make lots of it, it's more likely some of it will be Firefly - or at least made by Joss :)

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Friday, January 25, 2008 8:58 AM

Same reason I'm really looking forward to this film. I think the Trek franchise has a lot to offer that it hasn't put out there yet.

I'm a bit more neutral on the topic of Enterprise. I really didn't care much for the first two or three seasons. Some episodes were ok but it was a little dry and like most Trek series they ripped themselves off a bit. Even TNG did this at first. Though not as often. It's hard when doing a series that is a continuation of the style of a previous series to not do something more than once. Enterprise did have more than a few original episodes(well at least not rip offs of TOS, TNG and Voy... I never watched all of DS9)

Either way I'll be in the theaters on Christmas day with my family... or at least the day after with my dad and maybe another family member.

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Friday, January 25, 2008 3:57 PM

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Originally posted by Mudkicker:
Hey, now. I was one of the 4.3 million fans that actually enjoyed STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE. But this doesn't surprise me. Only a fraction of the Trek fanbase gave it a chance, not even after Manny Coto took the helm in Season 4. If they had only allowed him to continue through the now absent Seasons 5,6 & 7, people would have realized how great a series it truly was... or could have been.

What he said.

People were saying "Enterprise sucks!!11!" before the gorram show hit the air.

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