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I would say that Max would be the superior fighter in the tactical sense, but River would have the advantage of intelligence and ability to read her opponent's moves.

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:

Chris will now call me a fool, as he has done for 3 years.

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But Max would win...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:

Chris will now call me a fool, as he has done for 3 years.

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I am trying to follow the ways of my hero Kwai-Chang Caine...to be humble...to acknowledge truth...and I find your words to be truthful...I admit that you have been correct on this, I deny it no longer.

But Max would win...


The Shaolin Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Riverlove:

I liked Kung Fu very much when it was on TV. Later, when I learned how the whole thing was Bruce Lee's conception, and how he was ethnically discriminated against in Hollywood I became not a fan.

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Before the filming of the Kung Fu TV movie began, there was some discussion as to whether or not an Asian actor should play Kwai Chang Caine. Bruce Lee was considered for the role. In 1971, Bruce Lee wasn't the cult film hero he later became for his roles in Fists of Fury (1971), Enter the Dragon (1973), and Game of Death (1978). At that point he was best known as Kato on TV's Green Hornet (1966-1967). (Kung Fu guest actor Robert Ito reports that Lee hated the role of Kato because he "thought it was so subservient.") "In my eyes and in the eyes of Jerry Thorpe," says Harvey Frand, "David Carradine was always our first choice to play Caine. But there was some disagreement because the network was interested in a more muscular actor and the studio was interested in getting Bruce Lee." Frand says Lee wouldn't have really been appropriate for the series - despite the fact that he went on to considerable success in the martial arts film world. The Kung Fu show needed a serene person, and Carradine was more appropriate for the role. Ed Spielman agrees: "I liked David in the part. One of Japan's foremost Karate champions used to say that the only qualification that was needed to be trained in the martial arts was that you had to know how to dance. And on top of being an accomplished athlete and actor, David could dance." Nonetheless, grumbling from the Asian community would have made sense, given the fact that minor roles for Asian actors were almost nonexistent. James Hong, an actor on the show and ex-president of the Association of Asian/Pacific American Artists (AAPAA) says that at the time Asian actors felt that "if they were going to do a so-called Asian hero on Kung Fu, then why don't they hire an Asian actor to play the lead? But then the show went on, we realized that it was a great source of employment for the Asian acting community." In fact, Hong says, Carradine had a good relationship with the Asian community,

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I'm thinking Faith would also win out over Max, mainly because she doesn't have much of a conscience and would fight as dirty as she had to.

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Would I be wrong to consider BTVS as spoof?

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Would I be wrong to consider BTVS as spoof?

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Definitely.

My list, toughest (winner) first:

Buffy
River/Max (tie, of sorts)
Faith


The determining Chrisisall

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

No way.
Max and River both (each) would wipe out Buffy, vamps, and lykans.

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