Supernatural by deepgirl187

I missed most of the first season, but I've been watching it ever since. It is my favorite TV show right now, because it has a long arc. It's more like Buffy and Angel in that regard; however, I think this might be it's last season.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:16 AM

From my research I find that they planned to be on no more than 5 years if successful. They don't want to drag a great show out too long. I think that is wise.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:22 AM

chrisisall,

Is this the 5th season? I think so. I don't want to say too much since the OP is still on seaon 1, but the reason I say I believe it is their last season is because of the story line. It parallels Buffy, season 7. Buffy as a tv series didn't have anywhere to go after that.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by pachelbel:

Is this the 5th season?

I believe season four is what is currently airing; they haven't been picked up for a fifth yet, but it's still early.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 12:51 PM

LWAVES

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by pachelbel:

Is this the 5th season?
I believe season four is what is currently airing; they haven't been picked up for a fifth yet, but it's still early.

The laughing Chrisisall

Season four is currently on and we are into the second half of that.
It's a great show that doesn't give you the brain lashing of Lost or BSG but is just a solid, sometimes fun spot of TV. The only paranormal show since Buffy or Angel to get close to those two.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:05 PM

Aww nuts. It figures I would finally get into the show when it's about to end. Oh well.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:16 PM

Oh, don't worry, you can catch up.

I just got a couple of someones hooked on Supernatural myself. It is an awesome show; by turns funny and genuinely scary (as opposed to just gory for the sake of ratings, like some "horror" films/movies are).

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:38 PM

I think what I've enjoyed the most so far is the exchanges between Sam and Dean. The monsters of the week are so-so, but where the show really shines is their relationship. And while I like both brothers, Jensen Ackles really does an amazing job with Dean.

There was one moment though that took me out of the show (but was also really funny in a way). The episode "Nightmare" is supposed to be set in Saginaw, MI, but as someone who lived in that city for five years, I can say with certainty that they did not do the homework on that one. Still, it was pretty humorous nonetheless.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:41 PM

i DO aim to misbehave

I love it.

I love the interaction between the brothers, as well as the stories created. No, it isn't as heavy as BSG, but not everything has to be, does it?

In a way, it's a western format in its own right. Like Firefly, where a group went in with a ship to make things right (at least in Heart of Gold, and so long as the coin was right), the Winchester boys ride in in a 1967 Impala, do their job and move on.

That's just the bare bones of it. There is also an ongoing storyline involving the boys, but also a lot of humor. I currently own three seasons and have the fourth on pre-order from Amazon. I got my brother hooked on it too.

It is in season 4, but I can't watch the episodes as they air, or even stream them later because of school.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:59 PM

I think Supernatural may be even better than Heroes.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 2:56 PM

i DO aim to misbehave

That is indeed high praise.

What makes you say that?

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 3:20 PM

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
There was one moment though that took me out of the show (but was also really funny in a way). The episode "Nightmare" is supposed to be set in Saginaw, MI, but as someone who lived in that city for five years, I can say with certainty that they did not do the homework on that one.

Well, sometimes that's inevitable. Doing a "Road Show" is hard when you're based in B.C.

Have you seen the "California" episode yet?

"Dude, what the hell?! California's supposed to be warm and sunny. Beaches! Palm trees! Bikini girls! It's freezing! It's like. . . Vancouver!" --Dean

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 3:28 PM

i DO aim to misbehave

Yeah, they claimed to be in Duluth, Minnesota, once too. I didn't see anything that looked remotely like the hill-side city of Duluth, the Razorbacks, or even what might pass for stock footage of Lake Superior. An exterior of a shoreline in Vancouver would have sufficed.

One scene was supposed to be down on the "waterfront", except it was wooden, and none of those exist in Duluth anymore.

Oh well. As we all know when it comes to shows that have to have some effects from time to time, the budget can't always run toward things like location authenticity.

I didn't see the scene with Dean, Cybersnark, but I did see the episode where Sam ditched on a studio tour in "Hollywood" when they were headed for the Gilmore Girls' set - the show where Sam played Rory Gilmore's first boyfriend who, coincidentally, was named Dean.

Sam started out with absolutely no knowledge of horror movies. Dean, on the other hand, calls the horror movie genre their "culture".

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 3:58 PM

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Originally posted by Channain:
That is indeed high praise.

What makes you say that?

Sorry, being a bit sarcastic there..., Heroes lost my attention a while back due to its not having a plan, exactly what, from what I gather, Mr. Kring seems to be avoiding.

"They Have A Plan", (c) & (TM) Cylonland, veryLTD

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:57 PM

For me this is the best show currently on the air. Unlike many other series this has not lost it's direction. The only hiccup was during season 3 and much of that can be blamed on the writer's strike. I still regard season 1 as nearly perfect. Many people prefer season 2, which I understand, but I really liked Sam and Dean reconnecting while taking the audience on a road trip through their world.

The current season has really ramped up the tension. The structure has reminded me of what occured during seasons 1 and 2. While there is an overriding main story we still get some interesting stand alone episodes. This is not to be confused with what are called filler episodes, these are still very high caliber stories.

I am very anxious to see how the main conflict of this season plays out, and where the series can possibly go if there is a season 5.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 3:11 AM

i DO aim to misbehave

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Sorry, being a bit sarcastic there...,

Oh, I see. I guess I needed the

icon after that statement.

I lost track of Heroes last season because of school, so right now it's like I get a do-over with the series since I don't have class on Monday nights this quarter.

Sounds like I didn't miss much.

Supernatural, on the other hand, totally different story, since I know what happens at the beginning of season 4.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 4:26 AM

Supernatural is a very smart and engaging show. It seems to be very good at understanding it's limitations and has played very well within that. It's unusual for a show this good to be focussed on just two characters - you'd think the dynamic would have ebbed away. Yet here I am in the middle of season four and still hooked.

Best thing about this show is that it doesn't pander to contrivances. It's very honest with itself. Even if a visiting character is good to watch, they're not afraid to be done with them if the story so demands.

..and it can be incredibly funny! Anyone seen the Ghostfacers episode? Man that was hysterical. (I won't spoil don't worry)

Anyway. Really enjoying this show. It's up there with the best of them, certainly a great slice of sci-fi/horror tv and for once they have given the genre the respect it deserves by accommodating a suitable budget to the production.

I too heard it would run only for five seasons. I think that's more than sensible. If they end it all at the current level, it will most certainly go down as one of the greats.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 7:12 AM

I think Burn Notice may be the only show currently airing that may be better than Supernatural.
Is this true do you think?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, February 9, 2009 7:30 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think Burn Notice may be the only show currently airing that may be better than Supernatural.
Is this true do you think?

Not so far. I think Burn Notice is just leaving it's infancy and hence starting to get somewhere's. Both have a wonderful sense of humour, Burn Notice maybe just edging it because of Bruce 'Legend' Campbell and superb comic timing, but really when Supernatural goes funny it's really up there with the best.

I see no definative void in either show, I think it all depends on your kink for a genre. I gravitate to fantasy more than espionage but then that's just my slant. My bro would go the other way. Thereafter all the buttons are pushed. I suppose the arc of Burn Notice is a little more conventional, where as Supernatural is exploring the theological and to some extent the existential - which is always fun.

They're so different though it's really hard to call. Both are superb. What say you?

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Monday, February 9, 2009 9:25 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
They're so different though it's really hard to call. Both are superb. What say you?

Though they're both quite good, I have to hand it to Supernatural, a much harder show to make, and make well IMO.
BUT, Burn Notice is my personal favourite of the two due simply to it's cast. Those peeps kill me.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, February 9, 2009 4:26 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
...when Supernatural goes funny it's really up there with the best.

I don't know how current you are with this season but there was an episode where Dean catches a fear virus. This episode contained some of the funniest moments I have seen on any show in years.

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:07 AM

Yeah I saw that episode Singate. It was very funny indeed. Can't wait to buy the lot as a box set (hopefully) I was disappointed that season one came with no extras. Maybe they'll do a release once everything is wrapped with some added.

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Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:46 AM

I've finally finished Season One (and was openly cringing when the car got smashed. Is it bad that I was more worried about the Impala than I was about everyone else?

). I should start on next season today.

I was wondering though, I've heard that Season Three was one of the weaker seasons. Does anyone here feel that way?

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Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:07 AM

Hey Deepgirl187.

In the grand scheme of things there will always be a weak season. As far as I'm concerned it isn't season three, I'm not entirely sure I feel any of the seasons are weak. Guess it depends what you like from a show though... I'd elaborate but I don't want to spoil anything for you.

Anyway I hope you continue with the show. Oh and YES shame on you for worrying about the Impala! :D

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Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:37 AM

I would say season 3 is a bit weaker because it was cut short by the writers strike. It's not that the episodes are bad it just feels like the overall arch of the season wasn't as fleshed out. There were a couple of episodes I didn't care for but that has happened in every season. I guess it was magnified by the shorter schedule. It was still as good as anything else on TV.

As far as the Impala goes you have every right to be concerned. The boys spend a great deal of time alternating between a Dodge Dart and an AMC Pacer. It's a bit more difficult to look cool in those rides.

Get to season 2 as quickly as possible, you won't be disappointed.

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Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

While there have been weak individual episodes, there has NOT been a "weak season", at least in my opinion. This show, more than any other that is on the air, reminds me of - and very nearly takes me right back into - the Buffyverse. I love it. There are even some of the same demons that they have to deal with, and they tend to be somewhat consistent with the Whedonverse versions of them.

And for me at least, Supernatural IS better than Heroes. It's got better writing, snappier dialog, more wit, and more engaging characters.

DeepGirl, hurry up and catch up! I think I can safely say you won't be disappointed.

Mike

If you're going to assume anything, assume you're wrong.

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Sunday, March 1, 2009 2:56 AM

A minivan. Oh, the inhumanity of it all.

I really liked the season opener, particularly Dean's discussion with the Reaper. I have to wonder if the fact that he didn't die when he was supposed to is going to have repercussions later on down the line. And I was sad to see John go. I've wavered throughout the show wondering if he really loved his sons or if he was just a complete bastard, and I've come now to the conclusion he was more than a little of both. And in other news, I probably shouldn't have watched Grey's Anatomy before I saw this, because it really messes with your expectations.

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Friday, March 6, 2009 5:07 AM

Three things I've noticed:

1) They have to spend at least half their budget on licensing music. I mean, really. Not that I don't like the song choices, but it must really rack up.

2) Set design. I'm praying they get a bigger budget in future seasons, because I could swear I've seen the same motel room, the same cabin, and the same warehouse area at least fifty times.

3) I love the boys. Truly I do. But in many ways, I've found that my favorite character consistently has to be the Impala. Seeing it wrecked earlier was actually painful (and likewise, seeing it restored to all its glory was exhilarating). Is something wrong with me?

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Friday, March 6, 2009 5:27 AM

Originally posted by deepgirl187:

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Three things I've noticed:

1) They have to spend at least half their budget on licensing music. I mean, really. Not that I don't like the song choices, but it must really rack up.

- Ha, Ha. That only gets better.... Eye of the Tiger!!!

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2) Set design. I'm praying they get a bigger budget in future seasons, because I could swear I've seen the same motel room, the same cabin, and the same warehouse area at least fifty times.

Ah well... I don't think you're going to get past that. As the show goes on it becomes quite evident that they're in Vancouver for most of the shoot. That just can't be helped. But cinematography continues to be outstanding, and the special effects start to really look pin sharp at times.

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3) I love the boys. Truly I do. But in many ways, I've found that my favorite character consistently has to be the Impala. Seeing it wrecked earlier was actually painful (and likewise, seeing it restored to all its glory was exhilarating). Is something wrong with me?

No, that makes sense....The Impala becomes the third crew member for the Winchester's. Similar to SERENITY being the tenth crew member for Firefly. I think you're ok. :D

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Friday, March 6, 2009 5:30 AM

Originally posted by deepgirl187:

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......And I was sad to see John go. I've wavered throughout the show wondering if he really loved his sons or if he was just a complete bastard, and I've come now to the conclusion he was more than a little of both.

Ah yes. The father. I usually can't stand the whole 'Daddy' issues in TV shows, but this was one of the few occasions where it had a significant purpose behind it. It was handled very well.

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:25 PM

Holy crap! Did anyone watch tonight's episode?! That was the most intense hour of tv I've seen all season. Plus with the funny:

"Uriel's the funniest one in the garrison. Ask anybody."

"Then you guys are screwed."

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
They're so different though it's really hard to call. Both are superb. What say you?

Though they're both quite good, I have to hand it to Supernatural, a much harder show to make, and make well IMO.
BUT, Burn Notice is my personal favourite of the two due simply to it's cast. Those peeps kill me.

The laughing Chrisisall

Should we assume you like this show because Alec from Dark Angel is in it? You have heard of Dark Angel, have you not?

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 2:04 PM

I need to bump this thread, because Supernatural continues to deliver. I thought this last episode was just filler. Boy was I in for a surprise.

I don't see a lot of the shows many people on this board enjoy, and while there are some great guilty pleasures, e.g., House, Supernatural is far and away the best long-term investment on tv right now, imo.

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:26 PM

I can count the number of filler episodes for this series on one hand. I was a bit surprised by this last episode. It looked to be the another baddie messing with the Winchesters. Imagine my surprise when it turns out to be an object lesson from yet another angel. Looks as though Dean got the message. Considering his little meltdown at the end of last week's episode I expected at least a few episodes worth of sulking.

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Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:43 AM

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Originally posted by singate:
I can count the number of filler episodes for this series on one hand. I was a bit surprised by this last episode. It looked to be the another baddie messing with the Winchesters.

You mean Dean Smith and Sam Wessen, don't you?

I thought the same thing. There was one demon, I forget what it's called, that had messed with them twice, putting them in alternate realities. One was a time loop. I thought it was the same thing.

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Sunday, March 29, 2009 3:30 AM

Yeah, I was expecting the Djinni too. It seemed (at first) like the "perfect life" Dean might wish for (again).

The Trickster was less likely, given the oblique (casting & title-related) spoilers I've heard about an upcoming ep.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 6:16 PM

Bump again. I just can't get over how good this show is week in and week out.

"I am the prophet, Chuck."

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:43 PM

This episode was a very clever nod to real life fandom as there are Sam girls, Dean girls and people who are into the Sam/Dean thing. "They know we're brothers right?"

The gospel of Winchester is an interesting new twist. Castiel's "you should have seen Luke" had me laughing it up. I imagine it would be quite the burden.

I'm a little fuzzy as to why Dean warned Lilith of her impending doom. Would it not have been better to allow a bit Archangel smiting? Problem solved.

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Friday, April 3, 2009 3:14 AM

DEWRASTLER

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I'm a little fuzzy as to why Dean warned Lilith of her impending doom. Would it not have been better to allow a bit Archangel smiting? Problem solved.

I think Lilith knew who Chuck was and what would happen as soon as she soon him. She got this whole "Aw, crap" look on her face when Chuck ran in declaring himself a prophet, so it's Chuck's fault.

All in all, this was one of my favorite episodes.

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Friday, April 3, 2009 5:07 AM

And, frankly, who knows how precise Archangels can be with their Divine Whup-Ass. For all Dean knew, It could've nuked everything that wasn't Chuck.

Castiel was in rare form this week; this is the first time he's really bent the rules to save the day. And he made a joke.

Last question: how does Sam know what slash is?

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Saturday, November 7, 2009 9:04 AM

I have to bump this. For me, this is still the best show on TV. The previous episode was up there with OMWF. It was hi-larious, turned gravely serious, and continued to move an epic story forward.

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And the trickster not being the trickster? Brilliant!

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Saturday, November 7, 2009 9:07 AM

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I have to bump this. For me, this is still the best show on TV. The previous episode was up there with OMWF. It was hi-larious, turned gravely serious, and continued to move an epic story forward.

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And the trickster not being the trickster? Brilliant!

it was brilliant and i did not expect that twist

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Saturday, November 7, 2009 4:30 PM

KWICKO

Deepgirl, have you gotten all caught up yet?

This is supposed to be the final season, and it's shaping up to be one HELL of a ride!

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Saturday, November 7, 2009 8:57 PM

Their trip through TV land was the definition of high-larious. They pretty much made fun of just about everything I don't like: medical dramas, forensic shows and "reality" game shows. The hosptial sequence was too good to be true..."paging Dr. Sexy". I also enjoyed the nod towards Jeffrey Dean Morgan since he played John Winchester and ghost dad on the medical show that was being lampooned. And just when we thought they were out Sam takes his turn as KITT. Priceless.

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Sunday, November 8, 2009 4:50 AM

LWAVES

Yeah it was a great episode.
My first thought when they seemed to get out was that it couldn't be true as there was too long left in the episode. But I never expected KITT, and with the music as well.
Loved the joke when Dean is in the cars boot. A dirty joke brilliantly done.

And then finding out who the Trickster really was was great, even more so as he's a recurring character and not someone they just brought in for the episode. Adds more weight to it and seems momre like it was planned (whether it was or wasn't).

I actually like CSI and CSI:NY but stopped watching a CSI:Miami a while ago because it had gotten so silly and Caruso just made me laugh everytime he came on screen.

Looking forward to seeing how this season pans out and I am betting on a big fight between Sam and Dean in the finale. Whether they are inhabited vessels or not I can't say yet but there's definitely a fight coming.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Friday, November 20, 2009 9:15 PM

Badger, aka Mark Sheppard, made a guest appearance on the 11/19 episode!

The season seems to be moving around pretty fast. They've been jumping around a lot, like they need to get someplace and aren't sure they'll have time.

Still, I love the show, and can't believe it's going to be almost 2 months before we get a new episode.

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Monday, November 23, 2009 3:46 PM

Mark's character was a hoot. Assuming he didn't know what would happen with the Colt he better run far and fast.

After several light hearted episodes they throw this one at us. Seriously, this was like taking a haymaker from a heavyweight boxer.

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It's not bad enough that Lucifer raises the angel of death or that the Colt has no effect on him(I wonder what else it can't kill) but killing off Jo and Ellen was harsh. I expected things to get bad but it was still quite a blow. I will be surprised if one or both of the Winchesters isn't dead by the end of the series. Kudos to the actress who plays Ellen. That was one of the more convincing portrayals of grief without being over the top.

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Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:01 AM

Well, assuming the Colt and the demon-killing knife are similar magic, then it's possible angels might be Colt-proof (Castiel got stabbed in his first appearance and shrugged it off).

If angels can survive it, then Archangels definitely could (hell, Lucifer is an Archangel, technically).

It probably can't kill the Horsemen.

Now that I think about it, it may not be able to kill simple ghosts, either. (What would you shoot? The aparition? The root of the haunting?)

It's possible it can't kill Reapers (Reapers exist "out of phase" with the rest of the world --and the Colt. Can't shoot something that you. . . can't shoot).

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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