Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince by Hixie129

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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:20
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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:27 PM

HIXIE129

July 15, anyone else looking forward to this movie… I saw the trailers and I think it will be very good.

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:59 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION

I think it might be horrible, but I still can't wait to see it.

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:03 PM

ZEROKIRYU

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I think it might be horrible, but I still can't wait to see it.

Same here.

Oh no, the zombies killed god!

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Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:51 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA

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Originally posted by averyfinecompanion:
I think it might be horrible, but I still can't wait to see it.

Same here.

Stan- Mobbex is playing lunch and Aky is making a guitar

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:31 AM

HIXIE129

I saw Half Blood Prince and thought it was very good. I liked this movie more than OOTP.. It was longer so they were able to includ more of the book. The beginning was really the best part of the movie. I don't want to give too much about the film.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 8:00 AM

RIPWASH

I am half-way through the book and already knew the outcome, so I went ahead and saw the movie this weekend. And I liked it. Quite a bit, actually.

My favorite Potter film is probably Prizoner of Azkaban. Least favorite is definately Goblet of Fire. This one ranks pretty near the top.

I think Daniel Radcliff is becoming quite a good actor. There were a few moments in the film that I thought were completely and totally inspired. Not the least of which was his behavior while under the "influence" of the luck potion. He was hysterical.

There was one moment toward the end that caught me completely off guard even though I knew it was coming.

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Dumbledore's death was very emotional. All of the teachers and students lifting their wands, dispersing the Dark Mark, in honor of their fallen headmaster . . . I teared up. Seriously. It was a very moving scene.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 10:02 AM

MSA

Loved it.. though the additional non book scene was great:)
A little annoyed by one minor alteration, but all in all.. really excellent

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:25 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

The book was the best of the lot, so I think I will go see next weekend with my 13-year-old niece.

I did not see the ending coming and was quite caught off guard. But that's a good thing. J.K. Rowling is a very good writer, perhaps even great.
I was really quite taken by the book. Have not read the final book yet. Anyone, can you give me a head's up?

Thanks,

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:09 PM

WASHNWEAR

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
I was really quite taken by the book. Have not read the final book yet. Anyone, can you give me a head's up?

Only that you should do so at your earliest convenience. It's hard for me to say anything about what specifically I liked without fear of giving something away, but I was real pleased with the way Rowling wrapped the whole thing up. And I was absurdly touched by some hot name-saking action at the end.

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:45 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

Thanks for the info and your take on the final chapter of the HP Saga. I will go forth and find it.

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Monday, July 27, 2009 12:46 PM

LWAVES

I saw this on Sunday and thought it was a great film but the weakest of the bunch so far, but still a worthy addition.
It took a little to get used to it being funnier instead of the traditional "we've gone darker" theme they've followed everytime before. But having said that the hunour really worked especially, as stated, when Harry has the luck potions effects on him. It was brilliantly played by Daniel but I also thought all the 'kids' have grown well into their roles and turned in excellent performances.

I've had the misfortune of knowing the ending and who was involved in it for a good while (someone who is now buried in hot tar deliberately spoilt it for me) but I thought it still played out really well, especially if you read between the lines of what the characters are saying and the reactions on their faces. And for the record I'm only speculating as I haven't read this book and so far haven't been spoilt about the last book.

If I have one complaint it's that I could have done with a bit more plot. The other movies have some kind of resolution but this one leaves a thread of the main plot open to the next movie and the identity of the Half-Blood Prince isn't explained in any way.
Maybe the book is the same and these get answered in the finale, but I still felt a little bit of 'Is that it?'

Still, last two movies to look forward to, and I start the audiobook of HBP tonight.
The beginning of the end is here.

Oh, and WashNWear something about your sig has always bothered me but I never got past reading the first bit: "donttalkbackjustdrivethecar".
I finally read the whole thing and it clicked. One of my fave PG songs that I really should have gotten from the first part.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Monday, July 27, 2009 8:31 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by lwaves:
...the weakest of the bunch so far ... I haven't read this book ... the identity of the Half-Blood Prince isn't explained in any way...

This being my favorite of the books, and having been universally disappointed in every HP film I've sat through, I was super unsure about seeing this one, though the previews gave me a glimmer of hope. Perhaps I should thank you for saving me the inevitable irritation that important things are, once again, left out of the silver screen. So, thank you. Won't be seeing it.

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Monday, July 27, 2009 10:02 PM

ZEROKIRYU

They did say who the Half Blood Prince is in the movie, the complaint was that it wasn't explained, which if I remember correctly didn't happen till Deathly Hallows.

Oh no, the zombies killed god!

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:37 AM

RIPWASH

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Originally posted by lwaves:
... the weakest of the bunch so far, but still a worthy addition.

I disagree, Lwaves. In my opinion, the weakest was Goblet of Fire. There were some good parts, but SO much was left out from the book and little, annoying things were added. For instance, the whole thing with Barty Crouch Jr. is something I just cannot get past. He escaped from Azkaban, but it's never explained how and nobody even noticed. He kept flicking his tongue out like a snake when he is himself but not as Moody (and why he did that is beyond me - it made absolutely NO sense).

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It took a little to get used to it being funnier instead of the traditional "we've gone darker" theme they've followed everytime before. But having said that the hunour really worked especially, as stated, when Harry has the luck potions effects on him. It was brilliantly played by Daniel but I also thought all the 'kids' have grown well into their roles and turned in excellent performances.

I think the books have a good bit of humor to them. The movies just bring that out more because you can see reactions and see how the lines may be delivered that you might have read differently.

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If I have one complaint it's that I could have done with a bit more plot. The other movies have some kind of resolution but this one leaves a thread of the main plot open to the next movie and the identity of the Half-Blood Prince isn't explained in any way.

Funny thing is that my friend thought there wasn't enough action and too much plot. LOL I thought it was balanced very well. I am just finishing HBP myself and I think that it's just assumed that since Snape is a potions master, he is "obviously" the Half-Blood Prince. So him just saying that is almost a "well, duh" moment. Even for those who haven't read the last book (like myself).

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"What does that mean?!?!?!"

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:43 AM

RIPWASH

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This being my favorite of the books, and having been universally disappointed in every HP film I've sat through, I was super unsure about seeing this one, though the previews gave me a glimmer of hope. Perhaps I should thank you for saving me the inevitable irritation that important things are, once again, left out of the silver screen. So, thank you. Won't be seeing it.

I'm sorry you've been so disappointed in them. I think that being a die hard fan of how an author writes and the pattern in which any book is laid out automatically ruins the movie. I've become accustomed to the fact that sometimes things just have to be changed for things to fit into the movie and have things make sense in a 2 hour (give or take) movie. It has always been my contention that fans of the books would gladly sit through a 2 PLUS hour movie. But they (the movie producers) have to cater to the lowest common denominator - those that haven't read the book and are just out for a good time - in order to get the most money for their investment.

Still not done reading this particular book, but I have noticed SOME things that have been added to the movie that aren't in the book. I still think this was a great adaptation, though. I would still recommend it. But if you really haven't liked any of them so far, perhaps it's best to stay away

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:22 AM

WASHNWEAR

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Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
Thanks for the info and your take on the final chapter of the HP Saga. I will go forth and find it.

SGG

Tawabawho?

Good! I truly think - and certainly hope - that it will be a happy-making thing for you. As Michael Valentine Smith might put it...might...

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:24 AM

WASHNWEAR

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
This being my favorite of the books, and having been universally disappointed in every HP film I've sat through, I was super unsure about seeing this one, though the previews gave me a glimmer of hope. Perhaps I should thank you for saving me the inevitable irritation that important things are, once again, left out of the silver screen. So, thank you. Won't be seeing it.

Imma thinkin' nobody ever disappoints you twice, PR.

ETA: Or at least not six times...

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:32 AM

WASHNWEAR

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Originally posted by lwaves:
I saw this on Sunday and thought it was a great film but the weakest of the bunch so far, but still a worthy addition.
It took a little to get used to it being funnier instead of the traditional "we've gone darker" theme they've followed everytime before. But having said that the hunour really worked especially, as stated, when Harry has the luck potions effects on him. It was brilliantly played by Daniel but I also thought all the 'kids' have grown well into their roles and turned in excellent performances.

I've had the misfortune of knowing the ending and who was involved in it for a good while (someone who is now buried in hot tar deliberately spoilt it for me) but I thought it still played out really well, especially if you read between the lines of what the characters are saying and the reactions on their faces. And for the record I'm only speculating as I haven't read this book and so far haven't been spoilt about the last book.

If I have one complaint it's that I could have done with a bit more plot. The other movies have some kind of resolution but this one leaves a thread of the main plot open to the next movie and the identity of the Half-Blood Prince isn't explained in any way.
Maybe the book is the same and these get answered in the finale, but I still felt a little bit of 'Is that it?'

Still, last two movies to look forward to, and I start the audiobook of HBP tonight.
The beginning of the end is here.

Oh, and WashNWear something about your sig has always bothered me but I never got past reading the first bit: "donttalkbackjustdrivethecar".
I finally read the whole thing and it clicked. One of my fave PG songs that I really should have gotten from the first part.

Thanks for noticing! It is a great little ditty, isn't it? And it does well for me at my place of employment, where it serves as the "love theme" for me and my boss (This time...you've gone too far...this time...you've gone too far...).

The luck potion business is something I'm particularly looking forward to. I remember thinking each time I read Hallows that that could be real charming and fun to watch if it was done right...which it sounds like it was.

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:02 AM

BIGWOLF18

i loved it, particularly the Harry/Ginny scenes even the ones they added in for the film. "shoelace" was a great moment, and i liked that they've kept all the actors from when they were kids, even background charecters like the Patel Twins!

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:11 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
I think that being a die hard fan of how an author writes and the pattern in which any book is laid out automatically ruins the movie.

I wouldn't say it's automatic, per se, but certainly the odds increase.
I've said before, if someone wants to put a story on film, they should put the story on film. Keeping the character names and setting doesn't make it the same story. The more events that actually follow, I think, the better it is.

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I've become accustomed to the fact that sometimes things just have to be changed for things to fit into the movie and have things make sense...

That's just the thing, though, it often doesn't make much sense. A friend of mine watched the first four movies before reading the books, and when I mentioned what I considered to be basic story points, she was pretty lost. Much as you mentioned in Goblet of Fire (thankfully, I never saw that one) she was completely unaware of how Sirius escaped Azkaban, or even that he was an animagus. Never having seen that movie either, I could be jumping to conclusions, but that leads me to believe that either there was no explanation at all, or that it was insufficient.

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fans of the books would gladly sit through a 2 PLUS hour movie.

Gorramn right. And it worked for Lord of the Rings. And it worked for Watchmen, in terms of the story, though I suppose that was less commercially successful than LotR.
Heck, I'd sit through a whole TV series of Harry Potter. Or a miniseries per book. I'd really like to see that, someday, if it were done right.

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I have noticed SOME things that have been added to the movie that aren't in the book.

Sorry, but that kind of thing really bugs me to no end. When you have that much material to work with, why cut even more of it? Unless something needs to be written in as a bridge for the story, standing in for a sequence that is much too long or doesn't advance the plot much... and that, I think, needs to be handled with some mad skills and some delicacy. As with everything else, I think it's best for a script adaptation to be written by someone who loves the original work, and can actually adapt that voice. Not saying such things are easy, but there are some amazing adaptations out there.

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since Snape is a potions master, he is "obviously" the Half-Blood Prince. So him just saying that is almost a "well, duh" moment.

So, wait, it is explained who he is? I mean, the book goes into his parentage, his mother being a witch with a surname of 'Prince' and his father being a muggle, hence he was a half-blood, and a 'Prince' on his magical side. Aside from that, I don't know what other explanation people would be looking for. Unless you're looking for what his motivations were, which is indeed explained in the final book.

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Originally posted by WASHnwear:
Imma thinkin' nobody ever disappoints you twice, PR.

LOL!

No, I'm not known for giving out second opportunities for inflicting unpleasantness on me. I have to be pretty certain things have changed to have another go. Fool me once, shame on you, etc.

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:31 AM

LWAVES

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:
since Snape is a potions master, he is "obviously" the Half-Blood Prince. So him just saying that is almost a "well, duh" moment.

So, wait, it is explained who he is? I mean, the book goes into his parentage, his mother being a witch with a surname of 'Prince' and his father being a muggle, hence he was a half-blood, and a 'Prince' on his magical side. Aside from that, I don't know what other explanation people would be looking for. Unless you're looking for what his motivations were, which is indeed explained in the final book.

The film mentions that Hermione went looking in the library but found nothing on who the HBP is.
At the end of the film Snape tells Harry that he is the HBP. And that's it.
Nothing about what the name means. The Half-Blood bit is easy to guess but the Prince bit was never mentioned. His mother and father were never mentioned either if memory serves me correctly.
You have now explained it to me so thankyou.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:29 AM

RIPWASH

I guess it can be looked at this way: the script writer, who works pretty closely with Rowling (so I've heard), goes into it thinking that the people who've read the books will really know more of the backstory and it will mean more to them. Those who have never read the books, though, can still enjoy the movie and get the irony that the person Harry had been idolizing (the HBP) was actually his reviled former potions professor who also just killed his beloved headmaster & friend.

I think I'm in the majority who think Prisoner of Azkaban was the best of the series to date, but that one REALLY leaves a lot out from the book. The fact that the Marauder's map was made by James, Serius, Lupin and Pettigrew was fairly important. And that James, Serius and Pettigrew all became animagus' to be around Lupin when he changed and all that stuff. As was the fact that Harry's patronus took the form of a stag, James' animagus form. How long could it have taken to explain that? 5? 10 minutes? The fact that patronus charms take the forms of animals aren't even addressed until Order of the Phoenix.

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"What does that mean?!?!?!"

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:59 AM

FREEBAGEL

I'm not sure that I've ever been as disappointed by a movie as I was by this one. I loved the last 2 Potter movies that Yates did, especially with what he did to the endings of them, and the 6th book was my favorite book with the most emotional ending. So, given that, and the epic trailers, I thought this film was going to be completely epic.

But man, they butchered the ending. No battle at the end? Everything seemed too calm, Dumbledore wasn't weak and pleading enough. It was just...flat. The most emotional scene in all of the books, from a director that made me feel like someone had just ripped my heart out when a minor character like Cedric Diggory died, and I felt...nothing, here at the end of the 6th movie when I should have been balling.

The movie opens with two very grim, very serious scenes, and then 90% of the film is teenage romances. The Hermione/Ron stuff was way overdone. The 6th book is a lot of Voldemort's past, a lot of the Half Blood Prince, and a side-story of teenage romance. This felt like a teenage romance flick with small side-story's about Voldemort's past and the half-blood prince.

But again, I could have forgiven all that if the ending were up to par and not so emtionally flat. Yates took a minor death like Cedric Diggory's and made me feel extremely emotional. He took a weird battle like the one at the end of the 5th book and turned it into the most epic movie battle of the last few years. Then, when he was given the most emotional death and best battle scene to work with, we got...nothing.

When Sirius was killed in the 5th one and Harry went running after Bellatrix I could feel his anger. They tried to accomplish the same thing in this one, which should only have been better given how major the characters involved were this time, and it just felt weird. Harry's anger was completely lost on me as he chased after the killer.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:20 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by lwaves:
You have now explained it to me so thankyou.

Well that was easy

You're welcome.

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