OTHER SCIENCE FICTION SERIES

Spiderman reboot pic- EEEEK

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Monday, May 7, 2012 05:03
SHORT URL: http://bit.ly/wTTJqt
VIEWED: 30803
PAGE 1 of 2

Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:47 PM

CHRISISALL







uhhh, ... what a CRAP costume...


The Mal-like Chrisisall



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



It is a bit...cartoonish.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:30 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It is a bit...cartoonish.



You are too nice.
I would have characterized it as "ruttin' felgercarb" my own self.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:55 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Pics from the set are rarely a good indication of how it will look on screen.



NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:03 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Pics from the set are rarely a good indication of how it will look on screen.




I rest my case.



The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:20 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I'm sure that shot of Routh was a deliberately posed promo shot, not something taken by an on-set photographer during filming of a scene. I remember seeing some set photos of Capt. America that looked totally ridiculous, and that ended up looking just fine.



NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:41 PM

CHRISISALL


Oh, I guess I'll see it.
Hope they fix the costume with CGI....


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It is a bit...cartoonish.



You are too nice.




What can I say? I'm a kindler, gentler Raptor.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 3:59 AM

ZEEK


My expectations are dropping pretty far for this movie. I thought with a reboot they might go the route of Batman and really hit one out of the park. From what I've seen in the trailers I'm not seeing it. I think I'll still see it though and sometimes going in with low expectations turns out to be much better than going in with high expectations.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 8:42 AM

BYTEMITE


Spiderman has always been one of my favourite heroes because of both the snark and the inclusion of every day problems.

I thought the first couple of spiderman movies were good. And then the Dark Knight trilogy comes along and suddenly I don't think Batman is this rich guy with unnecessary angst and silly villains anymore.

I don't know. It's hard to not appreciate that comic book fans are getting lots of love that they haven't gotten for almost twenty years (or more), but at the same time I'm starting to wonder if the studios aren't overdoing the density of superhero movie releases.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 9:35 AM

CHRISISALL


My recent favourites:











The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 10:23 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Sorry, but can you explain to me what makes this costume any worse than any other Spiderman costume? It's bright red and blue; the costume designers don't really have a lot to work with, here.

Bear in mind, also, that lighting on movie sets has to be just ridiculously bright to look good on film. Photos taken under such conditions are bound to look overexposed. A better-lit photo of the costume looks more like this:




What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 10:23 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Terrifying space monkeys.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 10:23 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Spiderman has always been one of my favourite heroes because of both the snark and the inclusion of every day problems.



Yep that's a big part of why spidey is so cool. Though I think it's pretty difficult to find a director who can pull it off. A lot of people just don't have the feel for snarky comedy. There's a new spiderman cartoon coming up and the preview clips were pretty bad IMO. It was slapstick comedy rather than snarky smartass comedy. They may be aiming for a younger audience with the cartoon, but I still would have liked to see something a little wittier. The Spectacular Spiderman cartoon was great in that regard.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 10:29 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


I think the film looks pretty sweet. The kid they got to play Parker seems to do the sarcasm thing well ("You seriously think I'm a cop in a skintight red and blue suit...?") and they've given him the right girlfriend for an origin story (for once) and they've got him making a web-shooter instead of having the spider-silk come out of his wrists somehow... Overall, looks more faithful to the source material. I'm looking forward to it.


Facts are stubborn things.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 10:49 AM

CHRISISALL


It better be at least as good as the Raimi flicks to justify that mess of a design...
The cool thing was that he was a science wiz, not a costume designer. It's SUPPOSED to look simple!!!! Not hi-tek bumpy plastic!


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 11:10 AM

BYTEMITE


>_> The less lit pictures are not as bad, but now I think Spidey looks like the surface of a basketball...

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 11:32 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
It better be at least as good as the Raimi flicks to justify that mess of a design...
The cool thing was that he was a science wiz, not a costume designer. It's SUPPOSED to look simple!!!! Not hi-tek bumpy plastic!


Okay, but let's take a breath here: what if he used his science skills to make hi-tech bumpy fabric that wouldn't easily rip while he's swinging around? If you catch on the sharp edge of a windowsill and your entire costume tears off, that's probably not convenient, especially if your web-slinging contraption gets lost with the rest of the costume and you fall to your death :p
Smart kid designed rubber enforcing to the rescue then, yeah?


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 1:02 PM

WHOZIT


He looks likes a space alien, is he smelling his armpit in that 1st picture?

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 3:00 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
If you catch on the sharp edge of a windowsill and your entire costume tears off, that's probably not convenient

I see you are not a fan of the classic comic series... tears were common.


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 4:48 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Didn't they reboot this nine years ago? Oh well, I never thought Toby McGuire was that great of an actor anyway.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Didn't they reboot this nine years ago? Oh well, I never thought Toby McGuire was that great of an actor anyway.

*web shoots her in the face*

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 5:19 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
My recent favourites:







Why is that cave troll wearing green ?

Weird.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 7:00 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Oops. :)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, March 19, 2012 7:12 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
If you catch on the sharp edge of a windowsill and your entire costume tears off, that's probably not convenient

I see you are not a fan of the classic comic series... tears were common.


And... you're saying that they weren't inconvenient? (no, I didn't read the original series. I'm a girl )


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:14 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

(no, I didn't read the original series. I'm a girl )


Huh? I'm not sure how that applies.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:55 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I see you are not a fan of the classic comic series... tears were common.



That is why I love Spiderman. He was just a teenager/young adult, but he had so many problems. Worrying about his frail aunt, tearing his suit in a battle, selling pics to J.J to make the rent, hopping in through his skylight in his apartment hoping no one notices. Helping drug crazed friends(HArry) get "staright".
When you add it all up he may be the most complex and interesting super-hero ever created. Very blue collar type of hero.

As for the new movie....ehhh I MIGHT watch it I don't know yet. It certainly isn't on my 'MUST-SEE' list though.

By the way my favorite Spiderman story arc ever:


I read it in Marvel Tales(I believe it was 3 issues....yes 170-172).

BAD ASS!!!



----------------------------------------------------------------

70's TV FOREVER

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:05 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:

And... you're saying that they weren't inconvenient?

He had a whole fight with the Kingpin totally shirtless!! It didn't slow him down.

Wait! YOU'RE A GIRL!?!?!?!?!?




The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:08 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:

By the way my favorite Spiderman story arc ever:



Got it (I think...). I have all the early Spider-mans from like 30 or something to when Gwen died.
Most earlier ones are Marvel Tales...


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:09 AM

BYTEMITE


It's not like stretchy spandex with plastic ridges is particularly useful as armor.

I mean, if the Daily bugle wouldn't have a damn FIELD DAY it'd be no different running around naked fighting crime. The only important thing is the mask.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:07 PM

CHRISISALL


Just a note- when they killed off Gwen, I swore off comics for years.
It hit me that hard.


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:08 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
He had a whole fight with the Kingpin totally shirtless!! It didn't slow him down.

Wait! YOU'RE A GIRL!?!?!?!?!?



I know, my complete dorkiness makes it easy to forget I have no Y chromosome

Note to Byte: I am joking around, being tongue-in-cheek with gender stereotypes that I generally do not follow, except in this case it happens that I do. (And now it isn't funny anymore because I explained the joke...)


And I still think that a reasonable, science-minded guy might decide to design something high-tech that wouldn't rip easily. This is not something I need to suspend my disbelief for. Especially considering we're talking about, well, Spiderman. You know, the dude who gets superpowers from radiation in spider venom, instead of ending up in the hospital for a couple weeks.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:31 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


As I understand it they're going back to the story of his Uncle Ben is this right?
In which case I think the story is more the problem, not his costume.

Personally I'm not interested in this reboot. While Raimi did a nice job with Spiderman, the character had little where else to go with the sequels and it felt awkward at times and having Uncle Ben's murder be the catalyst for Spiderman's 'moods' in all three films was just lazy.

So unless this film does what Rise of the Apes did for the Planet of the apes films, I'll be avoiding this.





Cartoons - http://cirqusartsandmusic.blogspot.com

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:15 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

So unless this film does what Rise of the Apes did for the Planet of the apes films, I'll be avoiding this.



Plus I'm getting a "Twilight" vibe from the trailer.
I'll see it if peeps here see it first & suggest it.


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:56 AM

OPPYH


I've been getting a "Twilight" vibe since the earliest trailer. Being a serious Spidey fan, I couldn't bear it if that is the case. I will also wait and see.

----------------------------------------------------------------

70's TV FOREVER

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:12 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:
Being a serious Spidey fan,

Quick sidebar, since I believe you're also a Trek fan, here's my Art Asylum Wrath Of Khan Enterprise toy I just repainted last night:


Looks WAAAY better than it did out of the box.

(I didn't want to start a whole thread just for this)


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM

OPPYH


Yeahhh Baby!!

That is one sharp looking ship.
On a sidebar of my own:
My local cinema plays retro features every so often. Well, a few weeks ago they were playing The Wrath of Khan at a midnight show on Friday. Of course I went to see it. $4 admission so I did the logical thing and bought $10 worth of snacks for the feature(a large popcorn and soda).
I got in quite early, and was the sole person in the theater. They treated me to the musical score for Star Trek 2 while I waited. That was a nice touch I thought. When the lights went down, a few people straggled in but that was about it.
It looked, and sounded fantastic. It was the best movie going experience I have had in a long, long time. And that is rather sad considering I have seen it so many times. But you know you just can't make a perfect film stale....especially looking great on the big screen in near empty theater sipping a Pepsi, and chowing really good popcorn!
Needless to say, when the credits rolled, I may have been the happiest person on the planet.


----------------------------------------------------------------

70's TV FOREVER

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:44 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:
I got in quite early, and was the sole person in the theater.

Gotta love it!!!

Back to Spidey:





"I wear my sunglasses at night..."
Really, what's so hard here????




The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:36 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Yeah, I really can't stand the new costume. Of course, the Raimi costume irked me almost as much.

I prefer the Classic Romita.



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:44 AM

CHRISISALL


They just CAN'T get the eyes right...


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:53 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


And also: Why do we never see Peter's jaw moving under the mask when he talks as Spidey, in either the Raimi films or this one?
Every animated incarnation since the 60s has shown that!

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:10 AM

CHRISISALL


LOL, so they can dub in what they like, of course!


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:48 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Yeah, well, it bugs me anyway.

Oh, and I have to say that my favorite rendition of Spidey is still the MTV CGI-animated one...


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 10:58 AM

CHRISISALL


Ooooo, that looks to be good!
Is it just one season, or more?
I think I need a new DVD....


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:04 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


It's on Hulu, but the board won't let me post the link, so I'll just send a PM.

And the music is the most awesome part! The intro still brings tears of joy...


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:18 AM

CHRISISALL


Yeah, THIS I need to see!
Thanks for the heads up, CL!


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:37 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Yeah, and great voice work, too! Several Whedonistas...

Main Cast
Neil Patrick Harris - Peter Parker
Lisa Loeb - Mary Jane Watson
Ian Ziering - Harry Osborn
Keith Carradine - J. Jonah Jameson
Angelle Brooks - Indira 'Indy' Daimonji

Guest Roles
Michael Clarke Duncan - Kingpin
Rob Zombie - Dr. Connors (The Lizard)
Michael Dorn - Kraven the Hunter
Gina Gershon - Shikata
Ed Asner - Officer Barr
James Marsters - Sergei
Virginia Madsen - Silver Sable
Jeffrey Combs - Dr. Zellner
Keith David - Agent Moseley FBI

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:59 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:

Michael Clarke Duncan - Kingpin

Wow, I just thought, if people were ready for a black dude playing the part, he'd make a great LIVE ACTION Kingpin!



yes, your chain has been yanked...


The Mal-like Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:39 PM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Wow, I just thought, if people were ready for a black dude playing the part, he'd make a great LIVE ACTION Kingpin!



yes, your chain has been yanked...


See, now, the IMDb Trivia page on him got it wrong (emphasis mine)...
"His Daredevil character, Wilson Fisk/Kingpin, first appeared as an enemy of Spiderman until Frank Miller made him a major enemy of Daredevil. Duncan has played him opposite both characters, and as both a white man in the animated series "Spider-Man" (2003) and a black man in Daredevil (2003)."
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003817/bio#trivia

He was equally black in the animated Spidey, so I naturally assumed it was carried over from Daredevil.

But I hope this other Trivia tidbit isn't also erroneous...

"Supposedly gives five dollars to anyone who recognizes him on the street and knows what his full name is."

Good to know!

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, March 24, 2012 4:17 PM

CHRISISALL


Dude, snagged the series on eBay cheap- I'm gonna like this!!!
Thanks again.
*THWIP*


The webbed-up Chrisisall


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Marvel / DC / Comic Thread
Sat, December 21, 2024 18:37 - 45 posts
Shogun, other non scifi series
Sat, December 21, 2024 15:30 - 28 posts
another dead year for Scifi tv Shows and Block Buster Cinema movies?
Sat, December 21, 2024 13:36 - 23 posts
Game of Thrones - Season 2
Wed, December 18, 2024 22:13 - 64 posts
Good News, Everyone!
Tue, December 17, 2024 19:06 - 5 posts
Overseas tv - Parasyte The Grey
Mon, December 16, 2024 11:45 - 17 posts
Best. Villain. Ever.
Mon, December 16, 2024 09:59 - 132 posts
US Remakes
Mon, December 16, 2024 09:53 - 6 posts
What's everyone's Halloween movie(s) this year?
Mon, December 16, 2024 09:29 - 23 posts
Resident Alien; Tudyk is on Sy-fy this summer
Sun, December 15, 2024 13:57 - 7 posts
Board Games to tv shows...Henry Cavill's Warhammer 40,000 show officially moving forward at Amazon
Sun, December 15, 2024 13:56 - 2 posts
Batwoman
Sat, December 14, 2024 04:51 - 25 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL