Scorpion by JEWELSTAITEFAN

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I know it's going to be on CBS and it premieres September 22. Supposedly about geeky super-geniuses working in national security.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:28 PM

Did you get the impression some involved River-like talents?

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Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:49 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

No, but that's only because I've read just a very brief synopsis, have not seen any promos for it at all, and I don't want to see any. If I choose to watch it I want to be as surprised and unaware of what to expect as possible.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:42 PM

I keep seeing clips, and it still looks good to me.

If it is really good, maybe they will cancel it before the Pilot airs....

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:13 PM

I caught a promo for it finally, it DOES look interesting, so you could be right

I could do with some wacky off-beatness right now...

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Friday, August 22, 2014 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I caught a promo for it finally, it DOES look interesting, so you could be right

I could do with some wacky off-beatness right now...

You don't need to

this isn't rwed.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:01 PM

^bump

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Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:25 PM

11 days away?

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Friday, September 12, 2014 5:12 PM

10 days away, same as Forever, it seems.

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Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:31 PM

Also same day as Gotham, sounds like.
9 more days.

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 7:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Probably won't be able to get into this one, even though it looks like a decent show.

Not the first time we've been introduced to a team or person who has near unlimited intelligence and puts those skills to good use, either fight crime or righting 'wrongs'. It's a popular formula, which I think we could use more of in the real world. Sadly, we have far too many wanna-bees who pretend , but I guess we have to start somewhere.

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Monday, September 15, 2014 5:46 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Probably won't be able to get into this one, even though it looks like a decent show.

Not the first time we've been introduced to a team or person who has near unlimited intelligence and puts those skills to good use, either fight crime or righting 'wrongs'. It's a popular formula, which I think we could use more of in the real world. Sadly, we have far too many wanna-bees who pretend , but I guess we have to start somewhere.

From what I've been able to garner from publicity, it is actually based upon real people or events. Apparently, the core group is 4 with average IQ of 175 between them, plus some tyke who's bright and the tyke's mom, who effectively translates from them to the real world (the dummies of real world). Sounds more interesting.
As long as they don't just proclaim them as "high-IQ" and then dumb them down to the level of Big Bang Theory nerds, it has potential. Most shows with "High-IQ" characters get trapped into dumbing them down enough for the masses to think it is funny (and implying that the dummies in the audience are also smart because the dummies on TV are proclaimed as smart), and that gets old quick - except for advertisers.

Regarding your mention of good works, there actually is a well-known hi-IQ society which was in fact formed to help society and civilization solve it's problems. This has not helped much because society and politicians do not want solutions or an end to problems.

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Friday, September 19, 2014 5:05 PM

3 more days.

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Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:16 PM

Saw it last night. Nothing else on in it's time slot? Best Pilot I saw last night, with Gotham and Forever.

Much better than the trailers led me to believe. The leads seem to be a little bit dumbed down, for the audience to empathize with, but not too much so far. All the highlights in the ads made much more sense with the full story behind it, which is not always the case in other works.

Anybody else like it?

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Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:28 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Anybody else like it?

Not me. Entirely predictable, and I doubt I'll watch again.

As for what else is in that time slot, I watched Sleepy Hollow on Hulu this afternoon, but decided I'll take it off my watchlist too. Nothing there for me until Jane the Virgin starts on Oct. 13 on The CW.

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Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The leads seem to be a little bit dumbed down, for the audience to empathize with, but not too much so far.

I really did lock on with the 28 Day quiz - really felt like an everyday occurrence for me. That is the sense that will hook me.

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Friday, September 26, 2014 8:17 PM

FARFLY

Well, I watched it and kept hoping it would get better but no such luck. May watch another episode sometime to see if they have improved.

Still unclear why the title is "Scorpion".

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Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:31 AM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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Originally posted by farfly:
Well, I watched it and kept hoping it would get better but no such luck. May watch another episode sometime to see if they have improved.

Still unclear why the title is "Scorpion".

I believe that is the lead character's hacker alias.

I agree with your assessment of the show, but in my case I probably won't ever watch another episode.

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Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:43 AM

Word on the net is that the waitress and the Englishy Indian guy may be dating

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Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:13 PM

How disappointing. Saw the second episode.
Apparently all of the characters have been dumbed down, practically as dumb as the Butt-Bang Theory characters. One guy has debilitating OCD, and the only smart character left is the autistic kid.

I've been wondering if it is coincidence that the lead actor looks similar to Kirk Cameron - from another series which dumbed down the smart character to give greater appeal to the masses.

I'll probably give it another shot, but it looks dismal for now.

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Friday, October 3, 2014 2:22 PM

SUASOR

I was two eps and gone. Nice premise but as has already been pointed out, execution was poor. That's being generous.

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Friday, October 3, 2014 4:03 PM

It's only two eps in, people. Usually takes a season to work out the kinks and develop the characters. But we like it OK. There's quite a few holes in the writing, but it at least keeps our interest.

Lead guy is a hottie, and they picked the right lead girl.

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Friday, October 3, 2014 4:36 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

Sometimes only one episode is enough for me to make my decision, so I didn't watch the second.

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Friday, October 3, 2014 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
It's only two eps in, people. Usually takes a season to work out the kinks and develop the characters. But we like it OK. There's quite a few holes in the writing, but it at least keeps our interest.

Lead guy is a hottie, and they picked the right lead girl.

Kadyn Wong?

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Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:01 AM

Katharine McPhee. Kadyn is just backup, honestly she could phone in what she does. I think they picked Kathy because she seems non-threatening, and for a woman to seem non-threatening to other women it's kinda rare. I have the opposite vibe. I've made women back up just by walking into a room, lol. Hubby has the same thing, other guys will come up to him and pick fights out of NOWHERE, just because he has such an intimidating presence.

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Monday, October 6, 2014 5:41 PM

Looks like the lead guy is going to be in Interstellar, which I've seen posters for a while now, but just saw a trailer - could be awesome.

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Friday, November 14, 2014 4:29 PM

Watching this, I keep hearing the lead character refer to others as "normals" which really irks me, does not sound realistic, and yanks me out of the suspension of disbelief. I have never heard any of the geniuses or high-IQ people I know use this term. It is not even a term that occurs to me, either.

Have any of you ever heard of somebody use this term, outside of TV or film? I mean in real life. This just sounds alien to me, as if the term was originated in another country. Yes, the lead character is from the UK, but the term still grates. If I ever heard of this term spoken, it would have been from a wannabe who was trying to impress.

Anybody?

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Friday, November 14, 2014 11:14 PM

Well, I have heard use of neuro-typicals and non-neuro-typicals frequently. He calls his group "enabled" and in some ways they are and in some ways they aren't

People who have special abilities and higher IQ's ARE different in many ways. It can make living an isolating thing and many tend to become arrogant about their talents in order to cope. I won't say what mine is(mainly because I don't believe that IQ tests have any relevance to skill or achievement or even being human), but I will say that the average American has an IQ around 100. I am not near 100. Unless you have a vast experience reservoir to draw from, an IQ of 100 means you probably ARE a neuro-typical. Does that make you less or wrong? Not necessarily. It just means you are more likely to answer certain questions or think in a more predictable fashion. Some of the nicest people I've met are well below the 100 mark. I'd probably take them over an arrogant ass for most things, but I will say they aren't very...stimulating... sometimes.

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Friday, November 14, 2014 11:45 PM

‘It’s a very difficult subject to talk about because you always feel that eyes are on you, and people view you as different. I like to see myself as someone with a problem, but one I can solve. It is definitely getting better. Since the diagnosis I’ve learned strategies for coping with it and the best one is always to just walk away.’

Was reading an interview about Susan Boyle, who has Aspergers. I think it sums up what a lot of high-functioning people feel like- outnumbered.

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Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:38 PM

Almost all High-IQ people possess the complete set of indicators/syptoms for Asbergers - one reason why many consider Asbergers to be a fictional diagnosis.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Well, I have heard use of neuro-typicals and non-neuro-typicals frequently. He calls his group "enabled" and in some ways they are and in some ways they aren't

Never heard of "neuro-typicals" either. Where do you live, or what career field are you in, that you have heard these terms before? I have not heard high-IQ people use these terms in CA, WI, OK.

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People who have special abilities and higher IQ's ARE different in many ways. It can make living an isolating thing and many tend to become arrogant about their talents in order to cope.

The other item I was going to mention, but seemed to have forgotten, was their use of numbers for IQ on the show. If any one of them is half as smart as they claim to be, they would know that the numbers are essentially meaningless, yet they use them as if they mean something. They seem to be using the assumption that is the lead guy is around 197ish and 4th highest recorded IQ, then they must be referencing the scale by which Marilyn Vos Savant was recorded at over 200. I admit I have heard High-IQ people unfamiliar with the terms (as well as wannabes) use numbers like this, but these clown on the show act like they throw the numbers around willy-nilly and just try to impress others who are not them. This also yanks me out of the suspension of disbelief.

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Sunday, November 16, 2014 4:01 PM

Oh, honey...You'll have to trust me on the Asperger's thing as I'm married to one. It exists. It is a vastly different mindset than simply having a high IQ. There's a reason it comes with an 85% divorce rate. If they were just smart they could realize that their behaviors hurt others but many can't without a ton of therapy. I also have a child with a learning disorder and had the same as a child that went undiagnosed. I spend a lot of time reading anything medical and comments on websites to try to understand both.

Having the internet is a privilege. While most people spend their time looking at pics of Kim Kardashians bum or latest vid, I've spent a lot of my time reading things like this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders

I believe you can't begin to understand humanity or yourself until you can understand what makes it all tick. It's made a lot of my life make sense where none was before I can tell you that....

I think Scorpion is doing a lot of "dog and pony show effect." They want to validate that these are smart people and they want you to accept that they are smarter than you, and a LOT of people cannot accept that without a measure stick of some kind. I've spoken to a few people who can't have a conversation with ANYONE new without mentioning their IQ, and I agree it's obnoxious. But then IQ and EQ are two VERY different things

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Sunday, November 16, 2014 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
a LOT of people cannot accept that without a measure stick of some kind. I've spoken to a few people who can't have a conversation with ANYONE new without mentioning their IQ, and I agree it's obnoxious. But then IQ and EQ are two VERY different things

Do you find it entertaining when these people insist upon this tactic when they are speaking to somebody with a far higher IQ that they are spouting - whether they ever realize it or not? I have found they seldom figure out that the person they were trying to impress was far beyond their league. I also find that some of us linger and eavesdrop on such intercourse due to the sheer hilarity and hypocrisy.

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Monday, November 17, 2014 8:31 AM

"It is far better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Unfortunately, lack of tact is universal- whether you are a genius or an idiot....

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Monday, November 17, 2014 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
"It is far better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Unfortunately, lack of tact is universal- whether you are a genius or an idiot....

I was wondering - how did these people introduce the concept of their superior IQ? Did they just state some number that identifies them, or something else?

I had largely forgotten, I had heard of one girl who while in school regularly related to others that she was so smart, and apparently felt smarter than others, and stated she was a member of a High-IQ group. I herd this from many people, and without exception they were all turned off by the conversation.

But I still had not heard of normals or neuro-typical.

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Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:03 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I was wondering - how did these people introduce the concept of their superior IQ? Did they just state some number that identifies them, or something else?

Most people who have higher IQs tend to gravitate to others with high IQs and the subject just comes up sooner or later, but I find that the people who LEAD OFF with the subject of IQ are desperate to compensate for what they perceive as their own low value. Abandonment by a parent or spouse and failure at a vocation seem to be common factors, at least with the people I've talked to. I was put in advanced placement classes as a kid, so I had some idea I had a few extra points and I use those points to be the very best housewife I can be

I have a hard time dealing with people because of it though. Anyone wanting to tell me what to do or say I have a tendency to tell them where to go.

You know what bugs me about the show? Elyes Gabel has a big scar on the left side of his face that goes through his lips up to his nose and they keep filming that half of his face in dark so it's not as noticeable but them trying to hide it is actually what is distracting to me

It looks like maybe a sporting or a bike injury, but the internets doesn't seem to know....

He's still cute though

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:54 PM

bumping THIS up the list and the spammers down

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I was wondering - how did these people introduce the concept of their superior IQ? Did they just state some number that identifies them, or something else?

I find that the people who LEAD OFF with the subject of IQ are desperate to compensate for what they perceive as their own low value.

So they just blurt out a number? Or some other reference to identify their IQ level?

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:10 PM

Some do, if they know, but most just hint at why they think they are a genius and you are supposed to be just enthralled, I guess, and inquire further.

I usually try to find another topic...or an exit sign

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Some do, if they know, but most just hint at why they think they are a genius and you are supposed to be just enthralled, I guess, and inquire further.

I usually try to find another topic...or an exit sign

Were you aware that the most accurate way of determining a person's level of intelligence is to gauge how often they agree with me?

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Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:30 PM

Pfft, I had my gauge removed years ago- it keeps people guessing- but I may blow any moment

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Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:15 PM

Gosh, devolving rapidly.

Last night had so-called SEALs along, with leader supposedly smart enough to be an Officer. Sure, he was stupid enough to be given a General rank in UDF, but he was certainly not smart enough to pass the IQ test for U.S. Commissioned Officer. Couldn't even bother with a vehicle with a spare tire, but blames his failure and incompetence on civilians. But he sports a scraggly beard - the only one on his team with one.

Did all the decent script writers bail?

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Friday, November 28, 2014 9:06 AM

haven't had time to watch it yet...

BUMP

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Sunday, November 30, 2014 2:09 PM

Looks like tomorrow night they want to go head-to-head against Castle.
I was thinking State of affairs was in that spot.

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Monday, December 1, 2014 4:59 PM

bumpity over the trollbot

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Monday, December 1, 2014 10:40 PM

Finally had a minute to watch it, and you are correct- there ARE several cringe worthy moments in that ep. I don't know what they were thinkin' there.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:44 PM

Anybody still watchin?

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Monday, June 17, 2019 7:22 AM

THEMERCURY13

I am, lol.. 2019, 2nd series just aired in UK. I started watching after seeing ads between CSI episodes & assuming it was another CSI spin-off, but now I'm hooked! & gutted the series has ended, with no idea if we'll get to see more. It's far fetched, kind've predictable & soppy at times -Paige/Walter 'romance'- yet I LOVE it! - Intelligence as a super-power, & all the different characters; their interaction interests me, along with the science bits. Especially Walter, I relate to his logical outlook, plus he's fair attractive, & Happy - a female character that actually makes SENSE to me! Plus she has the best, fabulous, clothes.
Not sure of Paige's role as 'translator for geeks'; seems unrealistic - although Asperger's (which Walter shows traits of) can be more apparent in males regarding social situations; females are more conditioned to socially 'fit' from an early age & quickly learn to mimic peers to avoid rejection & bullying, to mask what they know NTs find 'weird' - NTs are wired to be intolerant - it's why AS is often late diagnosed in women, if at all. Along with a general lack of awareness, I'd naively assumed Asperger's was only men, as apparently did all the Drs I'd seen over the years; imagine my surprise. :'D *Hoping Series 3 will be shown on CBS UK soon..
https://www.kennethrobersonphd.com/hiding-in-plain-sight-the-many-disg
uises-of-adult-aspergers-syndrome/

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