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HEROES in its 4th season

POSTED BY: ASARIAN
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Monday, September 28, 2009 1:48 AM

ASARIAN



I saw HEROES is back for its 4th season.

I kinda liked it. Alpha... err, I mean Sylar emerging again as a person was a mite predictable. And I didn't get all this (undue) focus on Claire; although I liked her fisty, sexy, 'Guitar Hero' roomie Annie and her trajectory (and then they killed her off, and her puppy). I'm not sure where they're going with it, but I'll keep watching.

Any other first impressions?


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Monday, September 28, 2009 2:01 AM

PATCHIST


One of the things that irks me about Heroes is that everyone has powers and normal people are red shirts. I bet Madeline Zime turns out to have some kind of power that she may doesn't know it yet. Also, ever since last season I have been getting the idea that Ali Larter's character may be multi-personality schizophrenic. She doesn't ever go away. Maybe they should just kill off Hayden to regain their ratings. I don't understand her [big] role in this 'save the cheerleader' thing which the writers apparently forgot to continue.

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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:05 AM

STORYMARK


I gave up halfway through last season. Nothing I've heard about the new one makes me question that choice.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:17 AM

DEWRASTLER


I, too, have now given up on Heroes. Monday night was too busy in terms of viewing as it was, no I've decided not to watch it any more.

If I'm missing anything great, let me know and I'll get it on DVD. I don't think that will happen, though.

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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Read or see The Watchmen, and tell me Kring didn't rip it off like a week-old scab.


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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:36 AM

DEWRASTLER


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Read or see The Watchmen, and tell me Kring didn't rip it off like a week-old scab.


The laughing Chrisisall



Ok, now I want to see it, just so I can know what you're talking about.

I love the Watchmen, and now you have me intrigued.

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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:37 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Dewrastler:


Ok, now I want to see it, just so I can know what you're talking about.


Get the extended Director's Cut, the theatrical leaves out much crucial info.


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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:47 AM

DEWRASTLER


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Dewrastler:


Ok, now I want to see it, just so I can know what you're talking about.


Get the extended Director's Cut, the theatrical leaves out much crucial info.


The laughing Chrisisall



I saw it in theaters, and yeah it left a lot out. In November they are releasing a cut that has the Black Freighter cartoon spliced into the movie.

What I was saying was that now I kind of want to watch the season premier of Heroes just to see what you were talking about.

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Monday, September 28, 2009 9:52 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Dewrastler:


In November they are releasing a cut that has the Black Freighter cartoon spliced into the movie.


And yes, they are gonna get me with the double dip, given a good review. I like the Director's Cut just fine, and wonder if the Freighter addition would help or hurt it, cinematically speaking.


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Monday, September 28, 2009 11:12 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Read or see The Watchmen, and tell me Kring didn't rip it off like a week-old scab.


The laughing Chrisisall



In many ways. At a minimum, the big villainous plot from season 1 was straight outta the Veidt playbook.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 9, 2009 3:24 PM

PCCH7


Heroes has sucked since season 1 imo. Season 1 was interesting and pretty good, but ever since it´s just been ridiculous.

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Friday, October 9, 2009 4:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

...although I liked her fisty, sexy, 'Guitar Hero' roomie Annie and her trajectory...


I'm almost positive you meant "feisty". I'm not sure NBC could get away with showing the other thing, even if they were young and in college.



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Friday, October 9, 2009 6:38 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by pcch7:
Heroes has sucked since season 1 imo. Season 1 was interesting and pretty good, but ever since it´s just been ridiculous.



I pretty much pretend season one is all there is. They saved the world, Sylar is dead, the Petrelli brothers are dead, maybe the research is continuing, Hiro is in the past training to be a bad-ass ninja samurai or something, and all is well and happy and not completely messed up. Yes.
Thinking so keeps me calm and not upset. Ommmmmmm...



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Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:36 AM

ASARIAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

...although I liked her fisty, sexy, 'Guitar Hero' roomie Annie and her trajectory...


I'm almost positive you meant "feisty". I'm not sure NBC could get away with showing the other thing, even if they were young and in college.




LOL; Took me a few seconds to even realize what you meant. :P But yeah, feisty it was. The other thing, not so much.


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Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by pcch7:
Heroes has sucked since season 1 imo. Season 1 was interesting and pretty good, but ever since it´s just been ridiculous.



I pretty much pretend season one is all there is. They saved the world, Sylar is dead, the Petrelli brothers are dead, maybe the research is continuing, Hiro is in the past training to be a bad-ass ninja samurai or something, and all is well and happy and not completely messed up. Yes.
Thinking so keeps me calm and not upset. Ommmmmmm...





I neve understood why anybody would think the Petrelli brothers wouldn't be alive. And the show did not handle it very well either.
Simple. Nathan takes Peter up, up, up, release and freefall. Nathan takes off. Peter can survive the blast, doing during freefall is fine. Then after blast, Nathan can come back to prevent Peter pancake landing. Even Peter can preent pancaking on his own. Why would either be dead?

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Monday, October 12, 2009 8:30 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Well, Peter went off like a nuclear bomb. It seemed like, for the healing power to work, the tissue had to be able to re-knit. If even a molecule was lost or blocked, it wouldn't work. So yes, he could heal, but that doesn't mean he could survive exploding, unless the exploding man himself would somehow be protected from the explosion inside him, which I'm not convinced of, though you're welcome to hypothesize on that, and maybe you'll convince me. And yes, he could fly, so why did he need his brother there?
Either way, I still like to pretend that's all there is. I haven't watched past season two, where everything became a tangled soap opera and everyone got kind of stupid. I didn't even watch much of that, and don't plan to. I really, truly think that the creators of the show didn't expect it to succeed, and didn't really have an idea of what would happen after the initial arc, and they messed up. Badly. If they did have a plan, and that was it, they messed up even worse.

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Monday, October 12, 2009 2:44 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


PR, I'm right there with ya. I prefer to view Heroes as a one-season arc that ended tragically, with Nathan and Peter sacrificing themselves to save the world. It works better that way, instead of the wretched mess it's become. :)

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Monday, October 12, 2009 7:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Well, Peter went off like a nuclear bomb. It seemed like, for the healing power to work, the tissue had to be able to re-knit. If even a molecule was lost or blocked, it wouldn't work. So yes, he could heal, but that doesn't mean he could survive exploding, unless the exploding man himself would somehow be protected from the explosion inside him, which I'm not convinced of, though you're welcome to hypothesize on that, and maybe you'll convince me. And yes, he could fly, so why did he need his brother there?
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I saw on DVD, never on air, so maybe I saw a different version. It was clearly stated that Peter would survive the explosion after getting Claire's power, but everybody including Peter knew that everybody else would die, and Peter would be the sole survivor, and that would haunt his psyche for all his days. So the key was to remove him from the population so he could survive, but everybody else could also.
Peter stated that he could not apply any of his other powers - he had learned that he had to think of them to use them, control them. He said he needed every bit of concentration to contain the explosion, or he would lose control of it, and if he attempted any other power, his concentration would be lost. Once the explosion occurred, he is free to use the other powers as his mind contorls them. It may be that Nathan would need to prefent his pancaking in the event Peter could not or would not regain senses and composure in time to prevent pancaking - in effect, helpless or weakened state.

Claire left lots of blood behind, and even her toe, and none of that stopped regrowing. Surely she left stuff on the autopsy table. I don't understand your re-knit theory.

My biggest surprise was when they acted like the Petrelli's were dead, they didn't have scenes with them at the end of that season - didn't understand why anyboyd would think they didn't survive - maybe the broadcast version was different.

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Monday, October 12, 2009 9:29 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


We seem to be of one mind in this, kwicko
Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I don't understand your re-knit theory.


That comes from Claire being dead until the branch was pulled out of her skull, and Peter's request of her to shoot him in the head in order to kill him and stop the explosion. Perhaps the re-knitting only applies to brain matter. That still gave me the idea that going off like a nuclear bomb would possibly cause some trouble, beyond the whole destroying New York thing, but maybe I missed something there. If Claire's power would allow him to survive a blast of that magnitude, I think it would also allow him to survive pancaking, as you say. In my estimation, no matter how far you fall, nothing is going to match the devastation of a nuclear blast going off in your immediate vicinity, let alone going off inside your very own body.
But, if Nathan could let go fast enough and Peter could survive it, yay for them. I liked Peter a lot, I didn't want him to be dead. The whole mess with Sylar, though? Don't get me wrong, Sylar was a great villain, but... dude. The direction they took it, especially where he is concerned, still keeps the writer in me up at nights, if I let myself think about it. He was supposed to die. That whole save the cheerleader, save the world thing that was such a HUGE deal that season? That was supposed to be about preventing Sylar from absorbing her power and becoming nearly invincible, so that he could be stopped and not wreak all kind of havoc an' shit. When he lived anyway, it threw the whole thing down the drain. Not only allowing him to survive, but making him a Petrelli? that.
(I'm sure there was even more mess after, but I gave up for good when I heard that tidbit. Ugh.)

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Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:24 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Sylar wasn't really a Petrelli, that was just a lie told by Arthur in order to get close to Sylar and absorb all his powers.



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Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:08 AM

RIPWASH


I've been a Heroes apologist for a while now, but I am giving up as of last night. The promises of a new, more vibrant begining have fallen flat on it's arse and I'm extremely disappointed. I haven't even been able to finish the last two weeks episodes. Even last night's. I stopped and deleted it before the halfway point. It's stale and boring. Not the Heroes from Season 1, that's for sure.

Ah well. The good news is that if Heroes ends up being cancelled (hopefully), NBC will bring back Chuck much sooner.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:14 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


They've already announced that Chuck will be back sooner than March, although they haven't set the date yet. I'm worried they will stick it on Friday night where Southland was going to be, which is at 9pm opposite Dollhouse and SGU.



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Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


PR: I think we're both kinda thinking that a NUCLEAR explosion would pretty much rip the atoms of Peter Petrelli apart, stripping protons and electrons from nuclei and rendering any chance at regeneration moot. Maybe that's where we have a problem with the idea that Peter could survive a nuclear reaction that would vaporize New York City, with him as its Ground Zero...

Ripper: I'm sorry to hear that. I gave up a while back, but (as with Dollhouse) was always kind of hoping that the show was just having its "bad season", and would recover. Sucks to have to walk away from a show before it ends, huh? :(




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