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Friday, May 14, 2010 11:24 AM

CHRISISALL








I love my custom-painted toy!


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Friday, May 14, 2010 11:14 PM

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Quote:

I love my custom-painted toy!


Your beginning to worry me Chris.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:35 AM

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Like McCoy said; It's an obsession.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:31 AM

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I should talk. I wargame a couple of different periods. We paint lead figures and do battle on a table. I take such pride in my units. Napoleonics has such colorful and detailed uniforms. The Union infantry of the American Civil War dark with blue coats and black belts. One is so bright and the other dull, but it does not matter. The time spent painting them gives me such pride placing them on the field of battle. Now you know my obsession.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:25 PM

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Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:42 PM

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It is so strange. Napoleon wore a very plain uniform, but he had his marshals in gold braid. Murat was the worst. He was a fashion whore.



One Murat's tamer uniforms.
He was made king of Naples. Can you imagine the uniforms in that army.

And because I went off topic.

I think the best uniform for Federation crews was the dark red introduced in "The Wrath of Khan".
The later uniforms in "Deep Space Nine" and "Voyager" take a close second best.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:

I think the best uniform for Federation crews was the dark red introduced in "The Wrath of Khan".

My favourite uniforms are...
in JJ's new movie! Really- classic look, but with believable tweaking.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:04 PM

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I was glad to see the kept with the original uniform. And, as you say, the tweak was just enough.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:28 PM

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But in general, these were my favourite uniforms of all time:





Sigh.... I was 13....


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:37 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Okaaay, now we're workin on seperated at birth or something, Traveller!

I got Warhammer 40K and Epic Space Marine armies, of course, right lot of em, since I played that up till their cult-like behavior started to really wig me out...

But yeah, I also do civil war, a smallish combined arms unit known as "Butlers nuts" (a pun on the color of the jackets, which are sort of a brownish color, don't ya know...) which I've used in larger battles to great effect against the infantry-heavy Union forces.

Shotgun & pistol cavalry, couple snipers, a couple platoons of skirmishers and a rather fine set of 12 pounder Napoleons which used to belong to some yankees who didn't think to guard the railroad switches, meh heh.

It's very strange that we share so many common interests though, innit ?

-F

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Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:31 PM

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I started an Eldar army and they changed the rules and the size of units. I tired of that. So my army has not been used in years. Most of the historical gaming is gone around here. Just a few of us left.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:35 PM

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Chris:

I was a big Lt. Gay fan myself. There plans in the woeks for a movie, but how often do we hear that.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Chris:

I was a big Lt. Gay fan myself.

I could tell. I *loved* the Skydiver female uniforms as well. What a little perv that show made me.




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Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:26 PM

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Star Trek did not do to bad either.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:33 PM

CHRISISALL


For Trek, I'd submit this:



Ummm.... bunk-time.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 5:00 PM

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Well, that was a big part of it, Traveller, them constantly changing, often breaking, the game to try to sell you more crap - to which my response was to stick with the original rules and by-unit points cost and screw their charts and tables, if I am playin a pack of imperial defectors and renegades why the hell would *I* care about imperial organisations anyway, right ?

To which, and also in part for not using their crummyass paints, they yank my preferred customer status, and after dishing out a HUMILIATING defeat to their fair-haired company boy (cause I was the only one with an army even close to the size of his for-free one) they blacklisted me entire.

But more than all of that was their downright creepy cult-like mentality about it, seriously, the company reps and their pets were freakin scary, you'd think they believed their corpse emporer was real and in charge of the company or something - as of late since their own biz practices have tanked em, they've gotten lawsuit-happy too, which is even more wiggy.

But.. at least the Confederate States of America aren't likely to bitch at me too much for infringing on their copyright or taking historical liberties, that's a plus, innit ?

Favorite moment of that, union forces passing a seemingly abandoned plantaition home, and catching a full-flank barrage of cannister and getting run down by the cavalry coming over the hill behind it as they scattered in terror.

MESSAGE TO GENERAL WHELAN: SOUTH FLANK SECURE.

-F

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Saturday, May 15, 2010 5:07 PM

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I love it when they give you a flank shot. I was no great general, but I had my moments.


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Saturday, May 15, 2010 5:40 PM

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Quote:






"That was the equation."

They don't add up better then that.




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Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:51 AM

CHRISISALL


My latest detailing success:



Too many now, just...



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Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:33 AM

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notice the tiny enterprise D i made that


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Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:34 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Yo Chris.

While I was diggin round for a copy of Sword of the Stars I tripped over something that caused me to blink, and then immediately think of you.

Ships of the Line: Celebrating 40 Years of Star Trek
http://store.startrek.com/product/show/243

But the real kicker (since we all know the official store prices are inflated) was that it's carried by friggin Walmart for like $13.50USD

At which point I figured, well, might as well point that out, yanno ?


-Frem

PS - After much hell and frustration, I *did* find a copy of SoTS, will let you know how it goes.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:46 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

http://store.startrek.com/product/show/243


Thanks Frem, I've seen it, it's very pretty. But I like ownin' 'em!


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Friday, May 28, 2010 10:03 AM

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Old Trekkies never die. They just beam away.




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Saturday, May 29, 2010 3:23 PM

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ST fans, check this out:
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

A fan produced series with SUPER-HIGH production values!!! Skip the first couple of eps, and see the one guest-starring GEORGE TAKEI!!!!

In the words of Neo, Whoah!


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 3:31 PM

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Added web page to my favorites.

Always grateful for new Star Trek.


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 4:08 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Added web page to my favorites.

Always grateful for new Star Trek.


These peeps are seriously NUTZ!!! Look at the sets & props!!!
And they get NO MONEY for this!!!
And they get REAL ACTORS to work on it!!!!

I just found this, and I still can't fathom how it could exist! *Free* stuff don't get much better than this.


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:29 PM

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I seem to be watching more television on my computer then my TV. I actually wait and see shows on FANCAST.com instead of watching them when they origianally braodcast. I can watch when I want and with fewer commercials.

FANCAST has all ten seasons of "Stargate One" and I am finally seeing it in proper sequence. It is more enjoyable then catching it in bits amd pieces. I am in the middle of season nine with Vala, Claudia Black. So I am near the end. They just don't have the final film. May have to rent that.

So I am looking forward to this new Star Trek. To much to watch and not enough hours in the day.


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
FANCAST.com

Noted. Thanks!


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Saturday, May 29, 2010 5:38 PM

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It has nearly the same programs as HULU, but I find FANCAST is better to navigate. You will see when you go there.


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Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
They just don't have the final film.

Which one? (There are two: Ark of Truth and Continuum.)

Speaking of new Star Trek, here's something you guys may have missed. A few years ago, back when Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars microseries was making waves, A group called Zero Room Productions pitched concepts for an online animated Trek microseries called Final Frontier.

Unfortunately, there was a shakeup at CBS, and the J.J. Abrams movie came along and steamrolled everything, so the project ended up collapsing. The show's resources have recently been posted online.

The show was planned to be set in the far future of the Trek universe; 2528 (for perspective, Star Trek Nemesis happens in 2380).

Quote:

In the wake of a vicious attack, warp travel has been rendered useless throughout much of Federation space. The detonation of multiple Omega devices has ripped subspace apart, marooning a handful of Federation worlds in their own systems, destroying key starbases, and stranding some Federation citizens decades of sublight travel away from their nearest neighbors and the protection of Starfleet. After investigating the attacks, the Federation discovered evidence of Romulan involvement and, desperate to retaliate, immediately declared war. The second Romulan war began, with the Romulans denying any involvement in the devastating Omega attacks.

With large sectors of space impassable at warp speed, the war quickly devolved into the 26th century equivalent of trench warfare, with heavy losses on both sides and little advancement for either force. A truce was reached, and the once mighty Federation retreated behind its borders to concentrate on rebuilding its worlds, strengthening its core systems, and ensuring that such an attack never occurs again. Starships once responsible for exploring the galaxy and maintaining diplomatic relations with non-Federation worlds were recalled to patrol the borders, and the scientific mandate of Starfleet was abandoned in favor of isolation and protectionism.

Yet there are those in Starfleet who know that humanity was meant for more, and that our foray into the stars was borne not of a desire for power but for knowledge and adventure. Captain Alexander Chase of the U.S.S. Enterprise is one of these men, and he's about to make a decision that will set Starfleet back on the right path...



These are the voyages:
http://zeroroom.squarespace.com/overview/

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Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:44 PM

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Monday, May 31, 2010 6:38 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:

So I am looking forward to this new Star Trek.

I just saw the full third episode with Takei here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6752721424505#

It's truly well done, just don't bother with the first two, unless you're curious, they were like, the shake down ones. Honestly, I can't see the show getting better than it's third ep.


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Thursday, June 3, 2010 10:06 AM

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Just a test...




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Thursday, June 3, 2010 10:22 AM

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Winky:"Rocky I don't think I can pass this test."
Rocky:"Winky! You certainly know how to pass gas!"


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Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:

Winky:"Rocky I don't think I can pass this test."
Rocky:"Winky! You certainly know how to pass gas!"


Is that your way of saying that it turned out well & the attempt at gaseous discharge from the Nova worked?




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Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:32 AM

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Nova. I don't need no stinking Nova.


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Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:

Nova. I don't need no stinking Nova.






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Thursday, June 3, 2010 12:32 PM

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Both were excellent Mings. It was so retro seeing the 1981 film. I understand the SyFy network went a different path and their Flash Gordon did not last long.



And of course I always fall in love with the dark evil women.


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Thursday, June 3, 2010 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Both were excellent Mings. It was so retro seeing the 1981 film. I understand the SyFy network went a different path and their Flash Gordon did not last long.


I tried to watch that mess, but couldn't.
The '81 flick was far superiour, but not all it could have been; Crabbe still officially owns the role.


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Thursday, June 3, 2010 1:10 PM

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It is the piece of work most people remember about Crabbe and he was not paid a dime for.

Those early Science Fiction films are a blast. I still get a kick out of the sparklers used as exhaust from the rocket engines.




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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I recently saw the Episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before" which was essentially the first Star Trek episode aired. The boxes of the series indicate this was Episode 2 (after The Cage, never aired in the 60's), and imdb calls this Episode 3 (after 1- Man Trap and 2- Charlie X).

Anyhow, the Engineer/Navigator is not Chekov but Kirk's best friend. The Helsman is not Sulu, but Sulu is in blue uniform and introduced as a Department Head, along with the Doc (not McCoy) and Sally Kellerman.

Anyhow, The Helmsman is played by Paul Carr.

My favorite Sci-Fi series from the 70's is The Six Million Dollar Man. In the very first episode of the series, the very first character in scene who is moving, is also Paul Carr.
In a later season, Paul Carr also plays the henchman of Malachi Throne (in White Suit) of an episode named "The Bionic Woman" which eventually spawns a spin-off of that name. His scenes are at the beginning of the show, before Steve Austin heads to Ojai.

Consider the chances of being a part of iconic Sci-Fi history to this degree. The first Complete episode of Star Trek, the first regular episode of the series $6 Million Man (it had been TV Specials before that), and the Episode which created the Jamie Sommers Bionic Woman role. That sounds like a trifecta.

The Bionic Woman 2-part episode also set other records. IIRC it was the first network series episode that was either a 2-parter, or a 2-hour special. I forget which.

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:51 PM

MOOSE


IIRC, that episode was actually aired 3rd, even though it was the 2nd pilot.
It's one of my favorites in the franchise.

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Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
IIRC, that episode was actually aired 3rd, even though it was the 2nd pilot.
It's one of my favorites in the franchise.


What was aired first and second?


Here is a list of what I learned:
Star Trek Episode number on the cover, then imdb episode number, then some of the names.

1, zero, The Cage - never aired before 1988.
2, 3, Where No man Has Gone Before - aired 22 Sep 1966
3, 10, Corbomite Maneuver - aired 10 Nov 1966
4, 6, Mudd's Women - aired 13 Oct 1966
5, 5, Enemy Within - 6 Oct 1966
6, 1, Man Trap - 8 Sep 1966
7, 4, Naked Time - 29 Sep 1966
8, 2, Charlie X - 15 Sep 1966
9, 14, Balance of Terror - 15 Dec 1966
10, 7, What Are Little Girls Made of? - 20 Oct 1966
11, 9, Daggers of the Mind - 3 Nov 1966
12, 8, Miri - 27 Oct 1966
13, 13, Conscience of the King - 8 Dec 1966
14, 16, The Galileo Seven - 5 Jan 1967
15, 20, Court Martial - 2 Feb 1967
16, 11&12, Menagerie Parts 1&2 - 17 & 24 Nov 1966
17, 15, Shore Leave - 29 Dec 1966
18, 17, Squire of Gothos - 12 Jan 1967
19, 18, Arena - 19 Jan 1967
20,
21, 19, Tomorrow is Yesterday - 26 Jan 1967
22, 21, Return of the Archons - 9 Feb 1967


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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
IIRC, that episode was actually aired 3rd, even though it was the 2nd pilot.
It's one of my favorites in the franchise.


What was aired first and second?


Here is a list of what I learned:
Star Trek Episode number on the cover, then imdb episode number, then some of the names.

1, zero, The Cage - never aired before 1988.
2, 3, Where No man Has Gone Before - aired 22 Sep 1966
3, 10, Corbomite Maneuver - aired 10 Nov 1966
4, 6, Mudd's Women - aired 13 Oct 1966
5, 5, Enemy Within - 6 Oct 1966
6, 1, Man Trap - 8 Sep 1966
7, 4, Naked Time - 29 Sep 1966
8, 2, Charlie X - 15 Sep 1966
9, 14, Balance of Terror - 15 Dec 1966
10, 7, What Are Little Girls Made of? - 20 Oct 1966
11, 9, Daggers of the Mind - 3 Nov 1966
12, 8, Miri - 27 Oct 1966
13, 13, Conscience of the King - 8 Dec 1966
14, 16, The Galileo Seven - 5 Jan 1967
15, 20, Court Martial - 2 Feb 1967
16, 11&12, Menagerie Parts 1&2 - 17 & 24 Nov 1966
17, 15, Shore Leave - 29 Dec 1966
18, 17, Squire of Gothos - 12 Jan 1967
19, 18, Arena - 19 Jan 1967
20,
21, 19, Tomorrow is Yesterday - 26 Jan 1967
22, 21, Return of the Archons - 9 Feb 1967



I've been thinking about this, and I was a bit surprised when I looked these up. Think of how many of the most memorable episodes of Star Trek were actually in the first dozen aired, or scripted. How amazing is that?

Poignantly, reminds me of a little show I loved from Fox.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 5:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Recently conjuring about plot holes.

When Kirk joins up in Iowa, they leave into space to the Academy, him meeting Bones but already having met Uhura in Iowa.
The Academy is in San Francisco.
From Iowa to San Fransisco, they travel to space to, IIRC, a space station?

Does this make as much sense as it seems?

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Monday, June 12, 2017 11:09 AM

RIVERLOVE


A lot of things don't make sense in that movie, but it was entertaining nonetheless. And it was far superior to the two movies that followed.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
A lot of things don't make sense in that movie, but it was entertaining nonetheless. And it was far superior to the two movies that followed.

Agreed on all counts.
It took me 8 years to conjure this.

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