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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Unfortunately, the Golgafrinchan space ark full of hairdressers, advertising executives and telephone sanitation engineers got here first...

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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Unfortunately, the Golgafrinchan space ark full of hairdressers, advertising executives and telephone sanitation engineers got here first...

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Originally posted by jpstargazer:
wasn't the Admiral's callsign "Cornhusker" or something like that?

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Or by Akums Razor (a.k.a. how it's stated in the show)

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Originally posted by jpstargazer:
wasn't the Admiral's callsign "Cornhusker" or something like that?

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"Husker," IIRC. Which could refer more to his voice than any perceived farmishness (he's career military, and his father was a lawyer, so no clue where "cornhusker" would come from).

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Originally posted by Causal:
Actually, when they're in the tomb of Athena at the mid-point of season 2, they see the constellations and Roslyn says the current symbols for the 12 colonies are based on the ancient constellations: Sagitaron, Sagitarius. Gemenon, Gemeni. Caprica, Capricorn. (And so forth.) So if the old names for them are the contemporary names for us, it seems pretty clear that it's set in the future.

Also, Zeus is not Adama's callsign. That's just how Zarek refers to Commander Adama when he's talking to Lee (whose callsign, Apollo, is the son of Zeus).

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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Not necessarily. We're dealing with two different courses of history who both have the same root in Kobol. Over the course of the 12 colonies' history the names may have changed but over the course of Earth history they did not.

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Originally posted by Causal:
Plus, the Earth already had a few thousand years of civilization up to that point--I find it implausible that they would have just gone down to Greece and assimilated into Greek culture without so much as elevating them technologically.

But of course, if the series does end with the discovery of Earth, I imagine it will go the way you say if for no other reason than the "whoa" factor.

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wasn't the Admiral's callsign "Cornhusker" or something like that?

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"Husker," IIRC. Which could refer more to his voice than any perceived farmishness (he's career military, and his father was a lawyer, so no clue where "cornhusker" would come from).

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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I've been thinking along the lines that when they get to Earth it will be several thousand years in the past as well. However, another thought I've had is that they are the thirteen tribe and that all this history is in fact prophesy. Either way some how they crash land on Earth and their superior technology has viewed viewed as gods by whoever is there and they are thusly the foundation of what we now view as greco-roman mythology.

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Originally posted by danfan:
I think the 3rd player is the final 5.

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Finally... I think Kara Thrace (Starbuck) is (without her concious realization) one of the final five. My reasons for that would fill another post.

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Originally posted by danfan:
As long as we are talking about BSG theories... I have one of my own regarding a different aspect of the show. I hope you don't think this is a hijack. But...

The show presents itself as a conflict (call it a deadly game)involving 2 players: humans and Cylons. I think that is deceptive. There is a 3rd player in the game that neither of the other 2 players even knows is there yet. This 3rd player manifests in the form of apparent "hallucinations" to the characters... I like to call these hallucinations "Harveys" after the old Jimmy Stewart movie about an imaginary friend (who turned out not to be not so imaginary).

These hallucinations appear to the character as an important person to them from the opposing team. The first two examples are old news:

Gaius Baltar has a Harvey Number 6.

The Number 6 called Caprica has a Harvey Baltar.

(There is a third, I'll get to that in a moment). Each Harvey manifests the personality most likely to influence the person it is sent to influence. Baltar's Harvey is an domineering white hot sex machine... because he is all about the sex and he responds to the domination. Caprica's Harvey appears to her as a confident, competent, super-rational Baltar... because that is what whe truly wanted Baltar to be. She respnods to that.

The goals of these agents of the 3rd player are completely unknown.

Now the third Harvey... in the recent episode "Maelstrom" where Starbuck melts down, she has repeated hallucinations in which Leoban appears. Only he's different from the real Cylon Leoban. The one she sees is compassionate, gentle, almost loving. He was what she needed him to be to help her deal with the issues that were keeping her from taking the next step he says she must take. Finally, he helps her resolve those issues so she can move forward. At the very last, she turns to him and says "You aren't really Leoban." And he replies "Never said I was." Then she's returned to the real world and does what it was the Harvey Leoban was guiding her to do.

Okay... so what is the agenda of the 3rd player? My theory is based on a comment of the BSG creators in a recent interview. They said that upcoming developments in the plot would blur the line between human and Cylon. I think the 3rd player is the final 5. The Harveys are their manifestation in the real world to manipulate the humans and Cylons both in the direction they want them to go. I think that direction is to lead the humand and Cylons to a fusion of their cultures... a merging back into a single society. Perhaps even a single species.

Finally... I think Kara Thrace (Starbuck) is (without her concious realization) one of the final five. My reasons for that would fill another post.

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