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Dmitry Medvedev admits the REAL problem

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Monday, March 1, 2010 11:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Awwww...poor babies! Most know of the Russian figure skater who got a silver but both he, Putin and Medvedev tought he should have gotten the gold, so he made up a "platinum" medal for his website:


And Putin wrote him "Please accept my heartfelt congratulations on your superb performance at the XXI Winter Olympic Games," the message said. "Your silver is worth gold." and "You were able to overcome all the obstacles in your brave comeback and performed the most accomplished program on the Vancouver ice."

They blamed everything they could think of, but now, Medvedev is blaming the Russian "sports bureaucrats:

Quote:

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called for the resignation of the nation's top Olympic officials Monday after the country's worst performance in a Winter Olympics in nearly a hundred years.

Speaking on state television from his residence outside Moscow, Medvedev put the main blame for Team Russia's failures on sports bureaucrats, whom he called "fat cats," and said the country's sports pyramid should be turned upside down.

Despite infusions of cash, patriotic pep talks and bravado, the Russian team suffered a humiliating blow at the Olympic Winter Games in Vancouver, Canada, coming in 11th with three gold, five silver and seven bronze medals. It was Russia's poorest showing since it began competing in the Winter Olympics in 1912.

"Unprecedented investments are being made in sports in Russia, but money is not everything," Medvedev said.

"We need to think about how we change our training methods. The new training system should focus on athletes who should be put at its cornerstone, not sports federations and their executives -- and not even the trainers, with all our great respect to them. Athletes are those who bring victories, and they should become the focus of our attention."

Medvedev said he will thank the few athletes who won medals at the Olympics and give them government awards.

Russia's poor performance has angered members of the public, who have vented their rage on the Internet.

"It's been a total washout," wrote blogger Valere Pryakhin. "It hurts to see, I should not have watched this. There's no team, just empty talk. Everything's bad ..."

"I'm upset to tears with our Olympic 'successes,'" wrote another blogger.

On the eve of the games, Russian sports officials said the country could expect a place in the top three and predicted its athletes would bring home at least 30 medals. They also announced that the government would pay athletes 100,000 euros for every gold medal, 60,000 euros for every silver and 40,000 euros for every bronze -- three times as much as athletes competing in the previous Winter Olympics, in Torino, Italy in 2006, were paid.

But problems started early on, and by the end of the first week of the Olympics, the country had won just one bronze medal.

Russian athletes, trainers and sport officials blamed bad luck, lousy weather, equipment failure, echoes of previous doping scandals, judges' bias and other factors for its dismal showing. "Team Russia has already won gold for the multiple excuses of its losses," a popular Moscow tabloid scoffed.

But it was in figure skating and ice hockey -- the two sports where Russia has for decades been an international powerhouse -- that Russia suffered its strongest and most devastating blow.

In figure skating, it was the first time since 1964 that a Soviet or Russian team did not win any gold. And in the hockey quarterfinals, the Russian national team lost to Canada for the first time in half a century of Olympic matchups.

Russia's Olympic performance was a ticking time bomb doomed to explode sooner or later, sports analysts have said. The old Soviet infrastructure is rapidly wearing out, including its once-famous sports machine producing record-breaking performances. Many trainers and promising young athletes went abroad in the 1990's when the country was struggling for its economic survival. Finally, fewer babies were born in the past two decades, creating a generation gap for the sports recruitment system.

"We have been living on Soviet resources for a long time, but that is over now," Medvedev said.

The poor showing caused particular concern because Russia is hosting the next Winter Olympic Games, in the Black Sea resort of Sochi in 2014.

"Each of us had strong negative feelings [about the Vancouver games]," Medvedev said. "But there is no time for grieving. We should stop that and move forward -- the main thing is getting prepared for the 2014 Olympics, and all of our resources should be geared to that."

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Judge for yourself:

Plushenko:



Lysacek:



To me, there's no comparison; Lysacek skated the better program. More grace, fluidity, less strutting, and Plushenko almost touched down on one of those jumps. Screw the quad; it's the whole program that counts!

Plushenko appears to have quite an ego; maybe he thinks he should go on getting medals just because of his "Sex Bomb" performance that won him the gold earlier (this one's a GAS):




"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, March 1, 2010 11:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yup, Plushenko was of the opinion that JUST the quad should have netted him the gold. I don't care for Evan Lysacek, but he skated a near-flawless program without a quad, and Plushenko skated a very flawed program WITH a quad. The quad was good, but not enough to make up for the other flaws.

And his behavior since then has just been shameful and embarrassing.




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Monday, March 1, 2010 12:02 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Not just his, but Putin's, too...and the made-up "platinum" is just plain disgusting.

Talk about sore losers!!! Yeesh...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, March 1, 2010 12:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Not being an expert, but I liked Plushenko's skating better. It seemed to me like he had more control. To be fair, I thought Lysacek's program was more technically difficult.

Also, I didn't like the choreography of either program, but Plusehnko's seemed to have less arm-waving (which I dislike.)

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Monday, March 1, 2010 5:56 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Meh, I haven't respected the Olympics since they got CAUGHT cheating, and so many judges have been suspended for shading marks in exchange for various favors...

But the crowning moment that did it for me was yanking some kids medal for having taken a damn decongestant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreea_R%C4%83ducan
I've never forgiven that, since the case was motivated far less for any particular reason other than petty nationalism.

To take away a kids moment of glory like that, for friggin politics, it disgusted me so profoundly I've never been able to take the Olympics seriously, ever again.

-F

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Monday, March 1, 2010 6:11 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


The comments made by Putin ( at least the ones I have seen ) dealt more with the admin and training side of the equation.

As public money was spent, perhaps he is right to expect some results from that, and with poor results maybe he is entitled to ask why

Is the money going into the right programs, is it being spent where it should be... or is it going to lavish trips for staffers, etc


Comments made by other are ridicules, but Putin has a point...


If only all politicians watched public money vs result and were not afraid to make a stink when one didn't balance the other ( in all things )







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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree, Gino; I'm glad to see Medvedev start recognizing where the problem IS, rather than blaming everything else under the sun.

Putin, on the other hand, disgusted me, as did Plushenko. It was pure bad sportsmanship--unless there's actual cheating that can be proven, these medals ARE determined by subjective voting, so it's useless to complain and makes you look stupid, as Pluchenko's "platinum" medal idea.

Putin just sounded like the usual "Russia v. the world" mentality of the cold war. His comments had nothing to do with training; they just said "you WERE the best, despite the judging" and only encouraged Pluchenko's bad sportsmanship, in my opinion.

Yes, the arm waving got to me too, but when I watched Pluchenko's program, it had a lot of the same thing, so I ignored it. But did anyone see Pluchenko's gold-medal-winning "performance" at the bottom? That both sickened me and made me grin, it was so obvious, the muscles were so over the top and his ego so blatant.


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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