What gorram colours ARE my two favourite ships, anyway???? by chrisisall

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What gorram colours ARE my two favourite ships, anyway????

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:52 PM

As a modeler, I find it a bit perplexing. Are these ships silver or dark gray or medium gray or what?

Does anyone have an exact fix on the colours or shades of these ships for modeling purposes?

I'm just going by eye here:

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 5:33 PM

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Friday, July 2, 2010 4:33 AM

CYBERSNARK

As a modeller myself, I get the annoyance; Enterprise in particular tended to change shade from episode to episode (hooray for the early days of colour). The pale gunmetal you have is a pretty close match; it tended to range between gleaming white and military-standard grey.

I know that the upgrade and 1701-A had a deliberately "pearlescent" sheen added (to make them look better on the big screen), so I tend to think the Constitution class a very light whitish-grey (especially after the NX-01's metallic --it makes a nice evolution between gunmetal and pearl, and frankly meshes better with the cooler grey seen on 24th Century ships).

(I find it's best to treat the five-year-mission era as a "golden age" for the Federation. Everything was all dressed up with bright, clashing colours, then things settled down into a slightly more professional/businesslike style with the movie era, before finding equilibrium in the TNG-era. And now, post-Dominion War, we're seeing a flourish of "industrial" designs to reflect a leaner, more pragmatic Starfleet. . .)

Serenity seems a bit darker. Closer to NX-01, in fact, plus the inevitable grime that a cheaply-maintained private ship would inevitably pick up.

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Friday, July 2, 2010 5:44 AM

KRELLEK

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
As a modeller myself, I get the annoyance; Enterprise in particular tended to change shade from episode to episode (hooray for the early days of colour). The pale gunmetal you have is a pretty close match; it tended to range between gleaming white and military-standard grey.

I know that the upgrade and 1701-A had a deliberately "pearlescent" sheen added (to make them look better on the big screen), so I tend to think the Constitution class a very light whitish-grey (especially after the NX-01's metallic --it makes a nice evolution between gunmetal and pearl, and frankly meshes better with the cooler grey seen on 24th Century ships).

(I find it's best to treat the five-year-mission era as a "golden age" for the Federation. Everything was all dressed up with bright, clashing colours, then things settled down into a slightly more professional/businesslike style with the movie era, before finding equilibrium in the TNG-era. And now, post-Dominion War, we're seeing a flourish of "industrial" designs to reflect a leaner, more pragmatic Starfleet. . .)

Serenity seems a bit darker. Closer to NX-01, in fact, plus the inevitable grime that a cheaply-maintained private ship would inevitably pick up.

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the NX01 was/is that the alternate universe/Terran Empire´s equivalent of EnterPrise/NCC1701 A or/to E?

I kinda like the look of the Akira class(is it a destroyer or Cruiser)

and just a little question, what ship class is that are pretty much the same as the galaxy class, but has a third warp Nacelle planted on it´s back and would be blocking the shuttle craft hangarbays, if they are on this ship, perhaps also the aft torpedo launcher(a future Enterprise is shown in one of the last episodes of StarTrek-NG, with a third Warp Nacelle on its back between the two others)

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Friday, July 2, 2010 7:06 AM

CYBERSNARK

The NX-01 (or the NX-class, technically, since they were all the same) was the pre-Federation ship in Enterprise. We also saw the NX-02 Columbia (with the clear implication being that future ships would be named for NASA's shuttle fleet).

The three-nacelled Enterprise was a refit of the Galaxy-class Enterprise-D, and it only existed in that one variant timeline (which has been completely averted with the Enterprise-D's destruction in Generations).

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Friday, July 2, 2010 7:59 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
As a modeller myself, I get the annoyance; Enterprise in particular tended to change shade from episode to episode (hooray for the early days of colour). The pale gunmetal you have is a pretty close match; it tended to range between gleaming white and military-standard grey.

I was just watching "Requiem For Methuselah," and when Flint brought the Enterprise into his home all miniaturized, we get a pretty good look at the 3 foot model they used, and it appears to be a pearly-white/gray. Then, next scene in space it's back to a glistening medium gray. Do you think they made it a bit darker in the new FX to simulate a lack of being well-lit in space, unlike a model might be on a soundstage here on Earth? Or is that just the colour they chose for the new FX version of Enterprise?

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Friday, July 2, 2010 8:12 AM

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Modelers are.

Serenity seems to change color depending on the scene. Sometimes she's a patchwork of really light to medium grays, and sometimes she's more in the range of pale gray-brown shades. But she ALWAYS looks a bit patchy and lived-in. The way she should be!

Brownish-gray:

More white to medium grays:

For my money, the top surfaces should be more light-colored, and the bottoms and around the cargo hold more dirty-looking, because I don't imagine Mal runs her through the ship wash when he fills up. :)

And don't forget the primary buffer panel. Don't want that falling off. Could lead to things getting interesting...

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Friday, July 2, 2010 9:43 AM

KRELLEK

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
The NX-01 (or the NX-class, technically, since they were all the same) was the pre-Federation ship in Enterprise. We also saw the NX-02 Columbia (with the clear implication being that future ships would be named for NASA's shuttle fleet).

The three-nacelled Enterprise was a refit of the Galaxy-class Enterprise-D, and it only existed in that one variant timeline (which has been completely averted with the Enterprise-D's destruction in Generations).

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thanks for the answer, it was just that the first time I ran into a three nacelled Galaxy class kinda ship, was in the slightly old game called birth of the Federation, it just hit me that I had seen in the series too, and thought that it might be the biggest chance that someone might have seen it, was in the television series, and well a three nacelled Enterprise could have been build, if they had not happened to come up with the slightly more agressive and tougher design of the Sovereign Class(Enterprise E)

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Friday, July 2, 2010 11:44 AM

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MODEL??? Can we get one??? HELLO model peeps!!

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Friday, July 2, 2010 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Modelers are.

Serenity seems to change color depending on the scene. Sometimes she's a patchwork of really light to medium grays, and sometimes she's more in the range of pale gray-brown shades. But she ALWAYS looks a bit patchy and lived-in. The way she should be!

Brownish-gray:

Yeah , lighting has everything to do with it ; in deep space with little fill-light , she tends to look her natural titanium-alloy metallic earthtones , but nearing planetside , she washes out a bit and looks grayer when exposed to the albedo of the bright surface...Just like a real spaceship oughta.

I tend to think of Serenity as akin materially to a MiG-25 Foxbat ; she contains materials both exotic and mundane , from titanium and specialty ceramics all the way down to some low-value steels...She may have a little rust contributing to that timeworn , lived-in look...

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Friday, July 2, 2010 12:45 PM

KWICKO

Well said, O2B. And yes, Titanium would be the PERFECT color analogy, I think.

But I flinch a little at the idea of rust on the hull of my favorite boat! :)

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Friday, July 2, 2010 12:47 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

MODEL??? Can we get one??? HELLO model peeps!!

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Wouldn't that be sweet? Heck, I figured you being YouIsAll, you and SonIsAll were working one up! :)

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Friday, July 2, 2010 12:54 PM

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