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Seeing so many hate proud white people...What is Racism
Monday, August 30, 2010 1:10 PM
KANEMAN
Monday, August 30, 2010 1:12 PM
Monday, August 30, 2010 1:35 PM
Monday, August 30, 2010 2:26 PM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Warning the following post contains the petulant ramblings, those who live anywhere but ultra neoconland and do not want think EXACTLY LIKE I DO...need not bother with this bullshit.
Monday, August 30, 2010 2:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Warning the following post contains the petulant ramblings, those who live anywhere but ultra neoconland and do not want think EXACTLY LIKE I DO...need not bother with this bullshit. I would have bet you were one of the cowards. It is only an essay...It can't bite you. Or did you read it and can not debate the truths you read? Gotcha.
Monday, August 30, 2010 3:54 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Monday, August 30, 2010 11:39 PM
AGENTROUKA
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: It is any resistance by whites to the idea of becoming a minority people.
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:07 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: It is any resistance by whites to the idea of becoming a minority people. I find this actually fits the bill of racism. After all, how can you possibly resist something like that? You can not like it, which however implies that being a minority is sucky thing to be, which implies that there's a level of inequality leveled at current minorities, which undermines the claim that there is no such thing as racism. But "resistance"? What's that supposed to look like? I can't think of a non-creepy way to resist such a development. Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Never fails to make me smile.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:08 AM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:18 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Warning the following post contains the petulant ramblings, those who live anywhere but ultra neoconland and do not want think EXACTLY LIKE I DO...need not bother with this bullshit
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Warning the following post contains the petulant ramblings, those who live anywhere but ultra neoconland and do not want think EXACTLY LIKE I DO...need not bother with this bullshit. I would have bet you were one of the cowards. It is only an essay...It can't bite you. Or did you read it and can not debate the truths you read? Gotcha.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:38 AM
MINCINGBEAST
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:43 AM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:50 AM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:52 AM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:23 AM
KLESST
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: Curses Niki, you evaded my cunning trap. It makes me giggle whenever folks with racist tendencies, who happen to be pale, try to cast themselves as the true victims of racism. I became aware of this clever rhetorical counter several years ago during the fight over affirmative action in relation to school admission. It seems to be a new spin on the white man's burden, which co-opts the language of the civil rights movement. Actually, its rather clever, and effective.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Klesst: I am a proud White person, descended from an exclusive group with ultra White ancestors. We ultra Whites look down on the common whites like they might look down on other races. Given the opportunity, we would put the semi-whites in camps and do bad things to them so they would have a reason to feel persecuted.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Quote:Originally posted by Klesst: I am a proud White person, descended from an exclusive group with ultra White ancestors. We ultra Whites look down on the common whites like they might look down on other races. Given the opportunity, we would put the semi-whites in camps and do bad things to them so they would have a reason to feel persecuted. Are you so white you glow in the dark? Because that would be totally superior!
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Quote: That is why I've prefered "what's good for the Goose...."
Quote: That is why I've prefered "what's good for the Goose...."
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:53 AM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:08 AM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: My legs have not seen sunlight for about three years, mostly because the scars kind of just stay white and I end up looking looking like an okapi or something. I have scottish pride? I'm probably one of the few people who has ever tried haggis and likes it. Clan Chattan go.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:20 AM
Quote:for scottish pride, see generally Trainspotting ("We . . . are colonized by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized by. We're ruled by effete assholes")
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:45 AM
ALIASSE
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: It makes me giggle whenever folks with racist tendencies, who happen to be pale, try to cast themselves as the true victims of racism.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:09 PM
Quote:As a white dude, I have the privilege of ignoring black people, which is almost always. Were I a black dude, I would not be able to ignore white folks, considering they are the dominant power structure and culture
Quote:folks ought not take credit for, or pride in, things that they cannot control
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Aliasse: *falls to knees, blinded by the Truth of Kaneman's post and the whiteness of sundry posters' legs*
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:25 PM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:45 PM
Quote:Damned straight...that's at least half the problem. "Our forefathers", "my ancestors"--all the things we take credit for because we were born in this particular longitude and latitude, kinda make me sick. I take pride in what the hippies did and what we tried to do, but I was there DOING it...people who take pride in what their ancestors did leaves my eyes crossed.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:51 PM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:03 PM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:05 PM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Quote:Damned straight...that's at least half the problem. "Our forefathers", "my ancestors"--all the things we take credit for because we were born in this particular longitude and latitude, kinda make me sick. I take pride in what the hippies did and what we tried to do, but I was there DOING it...people who take pride in what their ancestors did leaves my eyes crossed. That's a little harsh. Are we not supposed to have pride in knowing our own personal family history and in whatever culture we have managed to hold on to? There's good and bad in all of our histories, but there's nothing wrong with being grateful for your ancestors for allowing you to be here today. This is a strange statement. I imagine a number of Latinos, and Asian Americans, and Native Americans would look at YOU cross eyed for not honoring your ancestors. Even if you don't go as far as they do and believe your ancestors can influence your life from beyond the veil or whatever, there is comfort in knowing who you are and what you came from, it's a comfort I begrudge no one, white or persons of colour. My ancestors fought with the Jacobites in the Battle of Culloden. I've visited their mass grave site where some of my distant relatives were slaughtered to the man, and sometimes even to the women and children by the Butcher of York. Then after about a half century of economic troubles and British oppression, one of them listened to a crazy man and decided to make the long journey from Scotland to the new world for their own promised land. It's a stubbornness and a pioneering spirit I'm not ashamed of.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:31 PM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:37 PM
HKCAVALIER
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:54 PM
Quote:So let me be very clear: I find nothing wrong with honoring, loving, being grateful to or anything ELSE when it comes to a person's ancestors; my only dislike is the idea of taking CREDIT for what they did. Is that clearer?
Quote:So I didn't have to "find" a subculture, as I didn't have a culture to begin with--except the general culture of America, which I'm quite happy with where most things are concerned. I left home at 16. I never considered being a hippie a "culture"--if I did, then I had several, like folkdancing, Renaissance Faire, etc...in all those I had friends who shared things in common with me, but we didn't consider it a "culture."
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:07 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: Byte, isn't it a bit like taking pride in inherited wealth? Anyway, I curse my ancestors for ensuring that I could be here today. I am, however, delighted that my ancestors killed Jesus.
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:11 PM
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:32 PM
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 3:54 AM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Quote:Affirmative action should only be for black decendents of Slavery. And it should have a time table.....Or should we do it forever?
Quote:Affirmative action should only be for black decendents of Slavery. And it should have a time table.....Or should we do it forever?
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 4:28 AM
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 4:36 AM
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 4:40 AM
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 4:48 AM
Quote:Hispanics are only crossing the border that we moved on them in the first place.
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Hispanics are less than dogs in my eyes, they get nothing.
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 7:15 AM
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 7:53 AM
Quote:Byte, I take your point and it is valid to me. I would argue, however, that “family cultures” are also pitted against one another, and via that very culture which is engendered IN the family.
Quote:To say family cultures aren’t pitted against one another is to ignore the obvious; ergo I see little relevance in that argument.
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